Mini 1768: Detective Conan Mafia (Game Over: Town Wins)
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In post 22, A Real Scourge wrote:and here comes the waiting game to see if the mod will accept that as a vote... i'm on the edge of my seat, really!
So am I lol-
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In post 31, KainTepes wrote:VOTE: Phoenox Wright maybe both of them are TOWN??? You didn't consider that??
I don't like how defensive and tense they got right off the bat. It's just a feeling, but I think at least one of them is scum-
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In post 36, Soren wrote:
And what do you think it is?In post 28, Phoenix Wright wrote:It feels like either one of 3 thinhs is happening right now
Either
1)Soren is town and his reasons for being suspicious of garmr are right
2)Garmr is town and Soren is trying to paint him in a bad light because he's scum
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3)Both of you are scum and this is some early scum distancing
I can't tell yet. But I'm leaning towards option 2 so far.-
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In post 56, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 54, Phoenix Wright wrote:Just noticed that 3 people haven't posted yet
Can you give me your town and scum reads?
~Bee
I don't have much to go on yet. The closest thing I have to a read right now is that I'm slightly suspicious of Soren, garmr and barn of Justice because it looked like Soren might've been defending him (possible scum partners?).
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In post 62, Turtles of Despair wrote:Hiya guys, I just came in. Sorry for being incredibly slow, going to take some time to read.
~ kirro
Turtles of Despair wrote:UNVOTE:
I haven't consulted my other head about this read but this guy is trying so hard and is pinging me so hard I have vote him twice.
VOTE: Garmr
VOTE: Garmr
Garmr has been incredibly awkward this game.
~Bee
This is so conflicting. If you haven't read then how dors Garmr seem like he's trying too hard to you?-
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In post 65, KainTepes wrote:Turtles is 2 PERSON in one account it seems, weird for Phoenix to scumread them because of that...
I never said that I was scum reading them-
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In post 69, Turtles of Despair wrote:I'm not actually seeing bee's read on Garmr. Will probably discuss with him before I get back.
Kain seems new, and I don't think he would deliberately attract attention like this as scum. I've seen him post elsewhere before and it tends to be similar, so I'm not inclined to take it as a tell.
@Phoenix: Do you still believe that one of Garmr/Soren is scum?
~ kirro
They haven't posted on this page at all, so I don't know why you think my opinion would change-
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In post 79, Firebringer wrote:In post 77, Turtles of Despair wrote:oh I just think a phoenix is a FireBird
Firebringer is FireDragoon
I am a toothless
I thought you were a nightfury-
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In post 82, Firebringer wrote:In post 80, Phoenix Wright wrote:I thought you were a nightfury
Thats just my species, I have a name you jerk.
Sorry-
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In post 86, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 81, Phoenix Wright wrote:Turtles of despair, what are your reads?
Well me and Kirro got like 0 synergy right now because Kain is weird af right now but she has experience with him and says he is town so I will go with that.
Phoenix is giving me bad pings
Coren's opening was really weird and he could have voted like a normal person in rvs when he saw something was off.
~Bee
Barn Of Justice wrote:VOTE: pw
They deserve the noose.I'm having as much trouble sorting town and scum as I am sorting troll or bad.
garmr wagon is lol worthy.
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In post 119, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 114, Phoenix Wright wrote:Explain yourselves, guys
You hardcore fence sat pretty early on.
Do you even hear yourself? If it's the top of the second page of the game, obviously we don't have enough information to make strong judgements about anyone. That's not sitting on the fence. It's playing like a normal person. I've been thinking about this for a while and since you want me to take a strong stance, here you go
VOTE: turtles of despair-
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In post 133, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 128, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 119, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 114, Phoenix Wright wrote:Explain yourselves, guys
You hardcore fence sat pretty early on.
Do you even hear yourself? If it's the top of the second page of the game, obviously we don't have enough information to make strong judgements about anyone. That's not sitting on the fence. It's playing like a normal person. I've been thinking about this for a while and sinceyou want me to take a strong stance, here you go
VOTE: turtles of despair
It is the top of the second page and you said all but 1 situation is possible in an interaction. I think town would have a stronger position then that or at least pretend to in order to get a reaction out of someone. You also at least could have tried to give your vote some credibility.
VOTE: Fire Birdo
VOTE: Fire Birdo
Good thing me and Kirro have 2 votes
~Bee
It's funny that you've been talking about fence sitting yet you've called me scummy for a while and only just voted me lolTurtles of Despair wrote:In post 131, Phoenix Wright wrote:@turtles of despair You're not trying to get a read on me. I have more votes than everyone else and so far you've just tried to justify your position on the wagon
I was on the Soren wagon until my last post. I thought Soren was scummier than you until your recent posts.
~Bee
Thanks for the OMGUS-
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In post 134, Barn Of Justice wrote:PW, are you scum?
Nope. Are you?-
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In post 143, Barn Of Justice wrote:In post 139, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 134, Barn Of Justice wrote:PW, are you scum?
Nope. Are you?
Are yousureyou're not scum?
Defense attorneys uphold the law. We don't break the law.-
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@Turtles
No, I voted you because your posts have bothered me for a while. Early on you just asked questions for the sake of asking questions. And then you said you thought I might be scum but didn't say why. Your hypocrisy about saying that I was scum for fence sitting when you yourself were doing the same thing was the final straw that caused me to vote for you. You're the one who OMGUSed because you didn't vote for me until I voted for you because you wanted to use that opportunity to say that I was the one OMGUSing.
P-edit: This is no misunderstanding. You're very suspicious-
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Prime example of you asking a silly question just to look like you're engaging
In post 70, Phoenix Wright wrote:In post 69, Turtles of Despair wrote:I'm not actually seeing bee's read on Garmr. Will probably discuss with him before I get back.
Kain seems new, and I don't think he would deliberately attract attention like this as scum. I've seen him post elsewhere before and it tends to be similar, so I'm not inclined to take it as a tell.
@Phoenix: Do you still believe that one of Garmr/Soren is scum?
~ kirro
They haven't posted on this page at all, so I don't know why you think my opinion would change-
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In post 160, Turtles of Despair wrote:@FireBirdo if this is an alt do you mind telling us what your main is?
I played on game of Mafia on another site, but this is my only account here. Just out of curiosity, how much experience do all of you have with Mafia?-
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In post 212, Jeanne11 wrote:
Votecount 1
Frozen Angel
Yarrrrgami (Kagami and pirate mollie)
Radical Rat (1) - Yarrrrgami
Tails
A Real Scourge
Soren (1) - Garmr
Firebringer
Garmr (1) - Soren
Turtles of Despair (beeboy and kirroha) (2) - Phoenix Wright, Firebringer
KainTepes (1) - Phoenix Wright
Phoenix Wright (2) - KainTepes, Barn of Justice
Not_Mafia
Barn Of Justice (3) - Tails, Radical Rat, A Real Scourge
I'm voting for turtles of despair, not turtles of despair and kaintepes-
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In post 210, Firebringer wrote:In post 208, Yarrrrgami wrote:The opposite o' being scurvy.
Exemplum Gratia: That sad-turtle pirate be awfully non-scurvy, makin' him very much unlike the speedy rat pirate who should be walkin' the plank today.
This doesn't explain much so scurvy is scummy?
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In post 229, Frozen Angel wrote:ok I like Yaragammi , Real Scourge and Talis
Barn and Garmr are being weird
I like to go ahead and do this
VOTE: Phoenix Wright he seems so picky. he tried to develop a case on turtles but I can't sincerely follow his thought process. and I think the way he calls people hard trier.
If you can't follow my thought process ask me to explain it-
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In post 244, KainTepes wrote:Can we lynch Phoenix Wright please
Can anyone give a good explanation for why they want to lynch me?-
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In post 236, Frozen Angel wrote:I'm asking you
explain why them being a try harder and the way it seems like a hydra problem (well it didn't looked like that to me) make you think their scum?
I don't knew what you mean by try harder. Are you talking about how I said that turtles is trying really hard to seem town? I just feel that tgeir posts are artificial and insincere. I already said that I've only played one game, so I didn't know what I hydra was. And I never said that I was scum me reading them for being a hydra.-
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In post 258, Turtles of Despair wrote:Heeeyyyaaa kirro here.
Just want to apologise for the inconsistencies, because bee and I tend to have quite different reads and I'm not particularly convinced about some of his.
With that said, however, PW, I asked you whether you continue to scumread Garmr/Soren particularly because neither of them have actually posted much. From simply just a couple of Garmr v Soren posts, you immediately eliminated the possibility of both of them being town. Now, why is that? I don't see any kind of town motivation for jumping to such a fixed conclusion.At least, it's not the kind of conclusion I'd expect for you to continue to have a page later, once more people have started talking.
On the other hand, I think scum has plenty of motivation to doubtcast 2 players from the very beginning to shift what other players tend to concentrate on, either to shift the focus from themselves and their scumbuddies (if said 2 players were town), or to distance (if one of those 2 players were scum). I can't think of any town motivation to do that, but plenty of scum ones.
So I want to explain yourself, PW. If you already did (I've only read till page 7 so far since I'm at break atm) then I'm sorry but please direct me to what you said. I'm not particularly fond of your slot atm.
~ kirro
I never eliminated the possibility. I stated what I felt were the most likely options. Once again you're being a hypocrite because you accuse me of eliminating the possibility of them not being scum yet your posts are worded in such a way that it seems like you're not entertaining the idea that I could be town. They doubtcasted themselves, so now you're just making things up. And how does other people posting have anything to do with how I felt about those 2 players. Those 2 didn't say anything new, so of course I wouldn't have any reason to suddenly not be suspicious of them.-
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In post 267, Frozen Angel wrote:In post 254, Phoenix Wright wrote:I don't knew what you mean by try harder. Are you talking about how I said that turtles is trying really hard to seem town? I just feel that tgeir posts are artificial and insincere. I already said that I've only played one game, so I didn't know what I hydra was. And I never said that I was scum me reading them for being a hydra.
help me through this. which one of their posts seems insincere? and why you feel like that?
I want to know the basics of your case on them
In post 56, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 54, Phoenix Wright wrote:Just noticed that 3 people haven't posted yet
Can you give me your town and scum reads?
~Bee
In post 73, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 68, KainTepes wrote:WHAT DOES THAT MEAN???
What are your thoughts on the game outside of FireBirdo being scum?-
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So he made this post
In post 168, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 166, Phoenix Wright wrote:*one
UNVOTE:
Yea I was getting inexperienced vibes but I thought you where an alt.
If you have only played 1 other game of mafia you are towny af because of your confidence.
~Bee
I have like 3-4 months of experience after you take away my break periods
He didn't mention or talk to me again after that, but then out of nowhere he suddenly has a scumread on me again out of nowhere after more people say they're suspicious of me
In post 168, Turtles of Despair wrote:In post 166, Phoenix Wright wrote:*one
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Yea I was getting inexperienced vibes but I thought you where an alt.
If you have only played 1 other game of mafia you are towny af because of your confidence.
~Bee
I have like 3-4 months of experience after you take away my break periods
In post 258, Turtles of Despair wrote:Heeeyyyaaa kirro here.
Just want to apologise for the inconsistencies, because bee and I tend to have quite different reads and I'm not particularly convinced about some of his.
With that said, however, PW, I asked you whether you continue to scumread Garmr/Soren particularly because neither of them have actually posted much. From simply just a couple of Garmr v Soren posts, you immediately eliminated the possibility of both of them being town. Now, why is that? I don't see any kind of town motivation for jumping to such a fixed conclusion. At least, it's not the kind of conclusion I'd expect for you to continue to have a page later, once more people have started talking.
On the other hand, I think scum has plenty of motivation to doubtcast 2 players from the very beginning to shift what other players tend to concentrate on, either to shift the focus from themselves and their scumbuddies (if said 2 players were town), or to distance (if one of those 2 players were scum). I can't think of any town motivation to do that, but plenty of scum ones.
So I want to explain yourself, PW. If you already did (I've only read till page 7 so far since I'm at break atm) then I'm sorry but please direct me to what you said. I'm not particularly fond of your slot atm.
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I've told you why 56 is dumb multiple times already, so I'm not going to write it out again. And when you're on the 3rd page of a game, it just seems weird to me that you'd already expect someone to have their reads ready. So it felt like you were asking a question just to look townie for asking a question.-
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In post 305, Frozen Angel wrote:it also increase to chance even 1 scum
what are you trying to achieve? that town can't lynch scum at all?
No, I just said its more likely that you'd get 2 mislynches. I didn't say that we couldn't hit scum-
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In post 324, Not_Mafia wrote:I don't see what we gain from waiting until say 2 to use ToD's double hammer ability
Stop messing with us lol-
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In post 326, Not_Mafia wrote:I'm not messing, I personally believe we should double hammer today
So what you're saying is that you're not really paying attention to the game? Turtles said that they can't double hammer.-
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In post 372, KainTepes wrote:In post 65, KainTepes wrote:Turtles is 2 PERSON in one account it seems, weird for Phoenix to scumread them because of that...
STOP PRETENDING I said you were suspicious in post 31 and post 65... you made me have to GO BACK to look for those posts...
I'm not pretending anything. We already established that I didn't know what a hydra was and we also established that I never said I was scum reading turtles for being a hydra. So basically what you're admitting right now is that you don't actually have any reasons for why you think I'm Mafia-
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Show me these posts that seem fake-
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In post 381, Yarrrrgami wrote:In post 375, Tails wrote:@Pirate: Why are you so sure that Sonic's actions mean scum instead of just new? I'd imagine you would be taking that into account.
I did indeed take that into me accountin'
Let me lay things out all clear-like.
We learn at 95 that he thinks armor-pirate be scurvy-free. Let's ignore the seduction-furry pirate bit for now. We learn in 117 that he be ok with the pudding-pirate's stance, so if the rat be non-scurvy, then he was readin' the armor-pudding conflict as likely non-scurvy vs. non-scurvy, or at least took that to be reasonably likely.
Now, why then does he have no problem with 28? It doesn't matter if he be a novice sailor, or maybe even especially because he be a novice sailor, that should be jumping out all suspicious to him. Instead we be hearing nothing from the rat about firebirdy lawyer pirate.
What about all the other pirates who be takin' sides against armor-pirate? Shouldn't they be the target of his scrutiny? Nope, the farm-pirate who be attacking the firebirdy lawyer pirate be the next vote in VOTE: 147, with terrible reasonin'. At the very least, I'd be expectin' him to review his scumread's vote target (Firebirdy lawyer) and be thinkin' "o, yeah, that guy may indeed be a scalawag given he be discountin' the possibility that armor-pirate and pudding-pirate both be free o' the scurvy."
There be one explanation that be jumping out at me as I be scrawlin' this, and it affects me read on you too.
Finally someone lays out a really good case. It's too bad that what you're implying is false. What do you think about the fact that as soon as anyone votes for Barn, someone rushes in to defend him? Soren did it on page 1 and now Kaintepes is doing it too. It could be argued that you're defending him right now, but I still think you're town. However both Soren and kain offered poor reasons for why they thought the people who voted for Barn were scum. Don't you find that suspicious? Or the fact that kain voted for me 3 times even though he never unvoted me lol?
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In post 391, Turtles of Despair wrote:I declared L-1...
I blame lack of vote counts *cough cough*
Can someone investigate the phoenix? I don't want to get noob towned out of this game by a scum. (No offense)
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In post 395, Garmr wrote:phoenix shut up and answer quickly
Don't want to. But if any of you have investigative roles, you'd be wasting it to look at me tonight. i know that sounds like something scum would say, but I'm telling you the truth-
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In post 405, KainTepes wrote:Phoenix and Turtles are SCUMBUDDIES...
If I get night killed can you lynch this guy tomorrow?-
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In post 409, KainTepes wrote:YOU IDIOT!!! OF COURSE THAT MEANS MAFIA WILL KILL YOU TONIGHT SO THAT I CAN BE MISLYNCHED TMR???
Not really. Me being killed doesn't mean that anyone would think you did it. I just meant that you're annoying and not progressing the game so I want you to be lynched. But your weird overreaction makes me think that you might really be scum-
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In post 419, Garmr wrote:Not letting it go through. I made my mind up.
Why? We could've found out if he was scum or not. It would give us valuable info about his interactions with everyone and also about everyone on his wagon
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