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Post Post #37 (isolation #0) » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:41 am

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Heilograph wrote:Dammit .... Oh well what ever
oh hai scum

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Post Post #46 (isolation #1) » Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:46 pm

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dybeck wrote:
Heilograph wrote:Dammit .... Oh well what ever
What was this comment about, anyway?
"Crap, I got found out this early. Screw this game."
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Post Post #57 (isolation #2) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:01 am

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dybeck wrote:You may think you're showing yourself to be the saviour of the town, but you're just misrepresenting this entire situation and it's creating a sideshow.
dybeck wrote:However, to say that I'm pushing for a quicklynch is GROSS misrepresentation, when it's very clear that this isn't the case.
dybeck wrote:I've never once said you're misrepresenting me.
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Post Post #60 (isolation #3) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:41 am

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Groovie. I'm with you that Starbuck is playing the White Knight card, which is worse than Heilograph's blatant OMGUS vote.

unvote: Heilograph
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BTW
bv310 wrote:J.R., why would you put kiku at L-3 this early? A quick-wagon is not the best way to start this day.
Came right after Starbuck's post/vote.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #4) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:49 am

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Starbuck wrote:I'm really not playing the White Knight card, and I find it to be hypocritical of both of you to be voting for me because I was trying to halt a quicklynch. I don't understand how that is scummy.
Well.

1. We were never in danger of a quicklynch. 7 votes in the first few pages of Day 1? Plz.
2. Anyone who quickhammered would be instantly outted as scum. 1-1 ratios are good ratios for the town. If scum were dumb enough to quicklynch, you should let them do it.

So to me, you're trying to make it sound like there was HUGE IMMINENT DANGER WOOPWOOPWOOP when there wasn't, but thank God Starbuck is here to prevent us from making the Big Mistake. There's no townie rationale for your behavior, but there is a scum one.
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Post Post #71 (isolation #5) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:52 am

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Sibelius wrote:PapaZito: Your last post is the clearest example of your reading too much into things. The way you were on Heilograph earlier and the way you're going after Starbuck doesn't sit well with me.
Was there a sale on chainsaws at Home Depot? I must have missed it. :(

kikuchiyo's post made no sense.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #6) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:24 am

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manho wrote:why would scum be more likely to stop a quick lynch?
Townie cred.

You're missing the hilarious part of this, which is that a quicklynch on page 3
never happens
. Starbuck's 30 (!!) games should have told her that.

There's nothing to protect from, but she's a hero. Yay.
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Post Post #78 (isolation #7) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:24 am

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Riceballtail wrote:@PZ: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10078 - Lynch achieved on page 1.
y halo thar newbie game from over a year ago.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #8) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 8:58 am

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Riceballtail wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:
Riceballtail wrote:@PZ: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10078 - Lynch achieved on page 1.
y halo thar newbie game from over a year ago.
You said it never happens, I provide evidence that says otherwise.
It's the exception that proves the rule.

Starbuck is still scum.

Wagon gogogo.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #9) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:54 pm

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Starbuck wrote:How am I scum again?

I really don't understand.
Clueless townie routine?

Okay.

Early game quicklynches don't happen, except in RBT's newbie game from over a year ago. (As this isn't a newbie game from over a year ago, there's no danger).

However, you drummed up fear by announcing you were worried about a quicklynch.

Further, you simultaneously announced you were saving us from said danger by unvoting and calling attention to the problem.

It's like when Clorox runs TV ads showing telephones (literally) crawling with germs, then shows how wonderful their product is at killing said germs. Drum up the hype, drum up sales.

I can see a scum player doing this to earn townie cred.

Hopefully that's crystal clear now.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #10) » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:08 pm

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kikuchiyo wrote:meta tells me to overlook her for now.
Explain this plz. What about meta allows you to give carte blanche to another player?
kdub (modified) wrote:Not Voting (4)- kikuchiyo, bv310, manho, Grandi
Vote people.


Man, posting from the PS3 is way too hard. Stupid dead laptop.
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Post Post #126 (isolation #11) » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:24 am

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bv310 wrote:Deadline's not until the 26th. I see no need to force a vote right now, not while there's still a bit of discussion going on.
"A bit of discussion" is being generous. This game is moving at a snail's pace.

Scumlist plz.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #12) » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:43 am

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manho wrote:i haven't found someone scummy enough to get a vote.
...
Papa Zito wrote:Scumlist plz.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #13) » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:07 pm

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bv310 wrote:To me, the way PZ has been leading seems scummy. Maybe I'm just reading too much (or too little) into it.
How am I leading the town?

How is whatever I'm doing scummy exactly?
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Post Post #149 (isolation #14) » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:31 pm

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Starbuck wrote:Wow. Reaching much. Can you provide specific examples for each of those accusations?
Compliance!
Papa Zito wrote:However, you drummed up fear by announcing you were worried about a quicklynch.
Starbuck wrote:I'm not comfortable with her having 4 votes already.

I'm not comfortable with you seeing that and putting her at L-3.
Papa Zito wrote:Further, you simultaneously announced you were saving us from said danger by unvoting and calling attention to the problem.
Starbuck wrote:Wolf, are you really FOS-ing me for trying to halt a quicklynch of a person on page 2?
If I had a second vote I'd be voting bv310 right now. He's so obvscum it hurts.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #15) » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:05 am

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Starbuck wrote:Thank you for providing examples, but I disagree with you.
:D
Starbuck wrote:You said I drummed up fear, to me that means that others would be fearful of a quicklynch and that they were vocal about it. Who are the others that were so fearful?
bv310 wrote:J.R., why would you put kiku at L-3 this early? A quick-wagon is not the best way to start this day.
Starbuck wrote:How was my question towards Wolf "simultaneously announcing that I was saving us from danger by unvoting and calling attention"? I asked Wolf what his intentions were.
Really?
wolframnhart wrote:L-3 isn't all that bad, had his vote put her at L-1 so quick I could see your point, and even then had someone hammered right after we could have a list of suspects to go from, so right now it seems like you are trying to be to townie by unvoting someone at L-3. FoS Starbuck
What's so confusing about this post?

Let's look at your post again.
Starbuck wrote:Wolf, are you really FOS-ing me
for trying to halt a quicklynch of a person on page 2
?
(emphasis mine) You're pretty clear about your intentions here. You're trying to "halt a quicklynch". You're saying there's a danger of a quicklynch, and that you're saving us from that danger.
Starbuck wrote:You are definitely reaching with both of these accusations.
Nah, not really.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #16) » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:08 am

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Starbuck wrote:So you are saying that I drummed up fear in the guy who can't even come up with his own opinions?
You asked for an example and I gave you one. The number of players who bought it isn't relevant, what's relevant is the attempt was made.
Starbuck wrote:I NEVER said that I was "saving us from danger". I never said that I believe kiku to be town. I just said that I didn't like quicklynches. I wanted to see what Wolf's response would be to my question.
Presumably you bought the subject up because you thought we were in danger of a quicklynch.

You specifically said you were "attempting to halt" it. Those are your words. Attempting to halt it would be saving us from danger.

The way you keep arguing this tells me you've been caught.
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Post Post #168 (isolation #17) » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:44 pm

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Starbuck is employing the "nu uh" defense.
kikuchiyo wrote:Let's get Starbuck to L-1 and get a claim. Though I don't support any type of massclaim as Dybeck earlier suggested, I do agree with him that your response to this wagon warrants you for lynch and that you should therefore claim sooner than later. Theme games can be broken with massclaims and so I would be against it because it is not in the spirit of the game, but if you want this pressure to dissipate you better be someone important. There was no need for you to lie about your activity. You have failed to reconcile the issue.
This.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #18) » Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:48 am

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MadCrawdad wrote:Starbuck has garnered much of the attention so far, but what do others think of bv310?
Like I said, if I had a second vote it would go there.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #19) » Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:58 pm

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dybeck wrote:There are several people getting away with not posting any content here.
+1
dybeck wrote:I'd like nobody to state reasons in favour of a massclaim. But I'd like anyone AGAINST a massclaim to say so, with a full argument why they think it would be a bad idea.
My only reservation is that in theme games scum tend to get safeclaims, and I think it'd be hard to figure out which ones are fake without a couple nights worth of actions to look at.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #20) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 9:43 am

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Starbuck, I need the rest of your claim before my vote (potentially) moves. The lack of a counterclaim is a point in your favor atm. (If there is a counter out there, now's the time)
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Post Post #246 (isolation #21) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:39 pm

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Argh, vanilla claim.

I've been thinking about this off-and-on this afternoon and I think it's more likely a townie claim than a scum one. Site meta at the moment is to lynch VT claimers, and I'd assume Starbuck is aware of this, so it seems too risky a claim to make.

I may end up regretting this later. :/

unvote: Starbuck
vote: bv310


This one is obvscum tho.

Heilograph, I'll echo your question - who is most scummy to you, and why?

kikuchiyo, first, never change your avatar unless it's to make it bigger, second, what so anti-town about 243?
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Post Post #248 (isolation #22) » Sun Jan 17, 2010 6:37 pm

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kikuchiyo wrote:Sounds like a vanilla soft claim. Has potential to make scum's job much easier at night. I also still think Star is more likely scum. Mod may very well have handed out safeclaims. I just don't like it. Starbuck has reacted terribly. I don't see her producing any in depth analysis, logic, etc. *sigh*
243 was wolf's post. Maybe wrong number?
kikuchiyo wrote:I thought we had plenty of information for a lynch. I thought the lynch would yield plenty more information and quite possibly hit scum. I'd rather not run someone else up to a claim today if it can be helped.
I feel a lot more sure about bv310 than I do Starbuck. I agree with you about her behavior today but bv's been worse really. And about her claim, eh, like I said, I don't think scum would claim VT in this environment.
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Post Post #256 (isolation #23) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:57 am

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dybeck wrote:BTW Bv310 is not the scum you're looking for.
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Post Post #261 (isolation #24) » Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:46 pm

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kikuchiyo wrote:To clarify: the number was correct. I found Wolf's post anti-town because it looked like a vanilla softclaim. He also does not take into account that Starbuck could be scum with a safeclaim provided by the mod.
Ah, understood. I read it a different way but I see where you're coming from.

Sibelius, opinion of manho plz.
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Post Post #281 (isolation #25) » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:42 am

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This game is weird.
Kdub wrote:Not Voting (2) - Narninian, wolframnhart
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Post Post #296 (isolation #26) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:52 am

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So much for Starbuck, eh wolf. :D

manho, what's neutral about Rumblebuffin?
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Post Post #297 (isolation #27) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:53 am

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So much for Starbuck, eh wolf. :D

manho, what's neutral about Rumblebuffin?
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Post Post #299 (isolation #28) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:17 pm

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You were waiting for her big post before you laid down the Big V.
wolframnhart wrote:i'd like to wait to see a case by starbuck
This game is zzzzzzzzz let's just lynch bv310 so we can go to bed feeling good about killing scum.
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Post Post #301 (isolation #29) » Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:24 pm

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You were waiting for her big post before you laid down the Big V.
wolframnhart wrote:i'd like to wait to see a case by starbuck
This game is zzzzzzzzz let's just lynch bv310 so we can go to bed feeling good about killing scum.
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Post Post #332 (isolation #30) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:37 pm

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1. I get a very town vs. town feeling from the above exchange.

2. I'm disagreeing with a lot of what kiku is saying.

3. Hey look bv isn't lynched yet.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #31) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 2:43 pm

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I'll go back and read him. I remember a hot-cold feeling.
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Post Post #337 (isolation #32) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:21 pm

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kikuchiyo wrote:PZ: Can you explain or refer me to the case on bv? As far as I could tell, the case seemed dependent on Starbuck being scum as well.
It's independent of Starbuck really. He's playing a very follow-the-town game.
kikuchiyo wrote:I'd rather not plug the thread with more Star/kiku but if you could explain where you disagree with me that would be helpful.
Well, here are your points:
kikuchiyo wrote:1) I am not satisfied with your explanations. Rewording them doesn't help.
2) You have had plenty of time for game analysis and all you have produced is a giant omgus case.
3) You are going to be lynched. Yet you prefer to argue with me than produce any other relevant game analysis.
4) You are "waiting to see if anyone else has questions" when you should be combing the thread and producing useful information for us to use after your flip.
1. I happen to have some insight about Star's posting in other games, which I can't really discuss, so I believe her on that point. Regarding the whole white knight thing, yeah, it's bad, but I feel bv is worse. I think we should be lynching the scummi
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2. I didn't like her vote on you, but it actually made me feel she's more town. Scum's agenda is to lynch townies, and there's no way she's going to wagon you right now, so in essence it's a wasted vote. But it's not a vote scum would make, scum would go for the counter wagon most likely.
3. You've said this a couple of times now and it really makes me twitch.
4. Time is an issue. And didn't she just pound you for a page and a half?
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Post Post #338 (isolation #33) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:24 pm

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Holy hell is manho bad. I can dig this.

unvote: bv310
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Post Post #342 (isolation #34) » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:24 pm

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Starbuck wrote:She's being completely hypocritical. She's been tunneling on me all game and wants me to list my other suspects and reasons why, but she has not done the same. All she has done is continually tunnel on me.
Agreed. I don't find that vote-worthy tho.
Starbuck wrote:Her severe overreaction to my post on her as well as everything else in the last page and 1/2 bothers me, but I'm willing to be that she's town over scum.
If that's so then your vote needs to move, eh?
Starbuck wrote:I would just like her to do the same thing she's DEMANDING me to do.
Scumlist request then?
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Post Post #366 (isolation #35) » Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:45 am

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MadCrawdad wrote:I see that lots went on yesterday. I won't be able to read up and post, however, until late tomorrow night, at the earliest.
Vote manho, vote often!
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Post Post #413 (isolation #36) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:48 am

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dybeck wrote:I think this is a really odd thing to say. If there's a real Susan, of course they should claim. I don't think the role implies any particular power, and could be strong or weak, for all we know. Susan was obviously a Pevensie, but far and away the least pivotal to the plot. Frankly, I'd have believed a VT Susan claim every bit as much.

And we'd have a guaranteed scum caught - which is kinda the point of the game...
I agree with this completely. If there's a real Susan out there, please counter.
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Post Post #427 (isolation #37) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:18 pm

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kikuchiyo wrote:Dybeck and PZ: How many games have you played where one scum is lynched day 1 and town wins?
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11842
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12046
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12390

Susan should totally claim if out there. 100% lynching scum is tech.

I'll only move my vote to bv, who is conspicuously absent.
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Post Post #432 (isolation #38) » Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:52 pm

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bv310 wrote:Posting in response to prod. Starbuck's AtEs are really much lamer than I would expect from a veteran of as many games as her. I can't imagine her real role to be Rumblebuffin, so I'd like to see what her real role is.
Yeah.

Why are we lynching Starbuck when this guy is around?

Urg.

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Post Post #443 (isolation #39) » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:03 am

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HackerHuck wrote:
Narninian wrote:bv310 is still on the top of my list - but is it in our best interest to force a third claim today?
It's in our best interest to lynch scum. If you don't think Manho or Starbuck are scum, then that's where you need to go. That said, the timing is probably too tight to get to a bv wagon unless we're willing to lynch him regardless of claim. I'm not there.
Why are you still squatting on RBT?

I think with bv I just want a lynch.
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Post Post #469 (isolation #40) » Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:50 pm

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Wow. The lovers flip makes a lot of bv stuff suddenly make sense.

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Post Post #497 (isolation #41) » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:19 pm

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kikuchiyo wrote:I'd like some PZ.
Rowr.

Not impressed by snail's post.
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Post Post #513 (isolation #42) » Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:27 pm

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MadCrawdad wrote:You seem to have issues with his predecessor also, as evilsnail drew your early vote on D2 (before he even posted). What initially drew your vote to Sibelius/evilsnail?
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Post Post #518 (isolation #43) » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:24 am

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evilsnail wrote:Btw, would you or Papa Zito care to contribute anything more substantial than "don't like snail's post" or "I realize how poor it is" (if any of this pertains to my Narninian case, anyway)?
Read the post right above yours?
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Post Post #532 (isolation #44) » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:50 am

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evilsnail wrote:Read the post you are replying to? As I say in parentheses, if any of this refers to anything concrete I've said, like my Narninian case, I'd like to hear it so I can address it. I can't do anything with "not impressed with snail's post" or anything related to my predecessor.
You're not supposed to do anything with "not impressed with snail's post." That's why I said it.

Are you suggesting we ignore your predecessor completely?

BTW:
evilsnail wrote:I definitely didn't mean to imply that you weren't contributing.
evilsnail wrote:Btw, would you or Papa Zito care to contribute anything more substantial than "don't like snail's post" or "I realize how poor it is" (if any of this pertains to my Narninian case, anyway)?
No.

@Town: Snail really doesn't like being voted. Suggest moar votes.
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Post Post #535 (isolation #45) » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:06 pm

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evilsnail wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:Are you suggesting we ignore your predecessor completely?
Where have I suggested this?
When you say you "can't answer for your predecessor's actions" that means you want us to wipe the slate clean. No bueno.
Kdub wrote:Not Voting (3) - MadCrawdad, wolframnhart, Riceballtail
Fail.

You three: Votes or scumlists. TIA.
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Post Post #540 (isolation #46) » Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:53 am

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MadCrawdad wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:You three: Votes or scumlists. TIA.
I've currently got an FoS on kikuchiyo and riceballtail.

I'll have more to say later today or tonight.
An FoS is neither a vote nor a scumlist. Looking forward to your post later.
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Post Post #558 (isolation #47) » Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:56 am

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(Superbowl, etc. Stuff tomorrow)
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Post Post #567 (isolation #48) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:07 am

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I read back through and I'm not seeing much to change my mind here.

Crawdad, is RBT still your #2?
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Post Post #575 (isolation #49) » Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:59 pm

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There's a trooper.
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Post Post #589 (isolation #50) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:21 am

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. . .

So now we have to decide if snail really is Aslan or he's scum trying to draw out the most powerful townie in the game.

Great.

Snail, moar info plz.
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Post Post #593 (isolation #51) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:19 am

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manho wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:Snail, moar info plz.
no, we need to see if CC happen first. we can save the power claim if no CC come forward.
Here's my thinking.

1. He really is Aslan. As such, there's no damn way he lives through the night, so a full claim doesn't hurt anything.
2. He's scum trying to out the real Aslan. We may be able to catch him in his lie by forcing him to fully claim, thus protecting the real Aslan.

So I'd rather have the whole thing.
evilsnail wrote:tw, could you link me to a completed game in which you were town?
Check my wiki. I need to update it a bit but there's a ton for you to choose from.

Also, if snail is town then I agree there's very likely scum on the wagon.
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Post Post #595 (isolation #52) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:28 am

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evilsnail wrote:Except if my role is such that a full claim is a bad idea.
Hmm. I can think of a few scenarios where this is the case.

I'm going to wait to see if a CC materializes. In the meantime, time to go reread I guess.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #53) » Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:28 pm

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UGH.

Why are all you clowns so freaking scummy? WHERE ARE ALL THE TOWNIES AT?

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Post Post #601 (isolation #54) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 5:00 am

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manho wrote:will you give us the reason?
0 contribution this game.

Also, I looked at the snail wagon (assuming he's town at the moment) and decided which of the participants was more likely scum on a townie wagon. RBT gives me waaaay more bad vibes than HackerHuck does, so.
manho wrote: and i really think we can save the alsan claim first before the CC.
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Post Post #605 (isolation #55) » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:27 am

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Narninian wrote:Would a mass claim be helpful at this point ?
Do the scum have safeclaims?
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Post Post #609 (isolation #56) » Fri Feb 12, 2010 5:59 am

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Gawyn wrote:I've read D2, and i'm likely place place the vote back on kiku once i'm done rereading.
ORLY

You will explain this, complete with charts and graphs, in your next post.
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Post Post #611 (isolation #57) » Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:04 am

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uhhhhhhhhhhhh

Well the game has stalled yeah but I mean is it really hard for the scumz to figure who to kill off based on names alone? Plus if you're doing this you're really banking on them not having safeclaims.
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Post Post #638 (isolation #58) » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:36 pm

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I am really really sorry for holding the game up guys. Things just happened and yeah.

Nameclaim is :(

I'm Lucy.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #59) » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:45 pm

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Oh god, not more rolecops. No no no. *shakes fist*
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Post Post #641 (isolation #60) » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:46 pm

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unvote: RBT
vote: Wolf


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Post Post #648 (isolation #61) » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:59 am

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kikuchiyo wrote:What good does rolecop do for the town?
Breaks scum safeclaims.

I'm not saying he's not scum, not at all. Rolecop is far more likely a scum role than a townie one, and he could have just said "yeah that" after I nameclaimed to make him look credible when I get killed.

But it's possible.

BTW, I'm voting wolf both because he's been under the radar too much and because I get the feeling the game is based on the book and not the movie. Outguessing the mod is, as a famous philosopher once said, whoooosh but it's all I really have at the moment.
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Post Post #652 (isolation #62) » Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:13 pm

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kikuchiyo wrote:
Vote: RBT


Rolecops get role results, not names. I.e. jailkeep, cop, doctor, tracker, etc. Not Jimmy, Susie, Bobby. I call bullshit. 100%. Even if he claims the correct role, he's way more obvscum than town at this point. Drop the Wolf wagon, please. RBT is today's lynch.
Now, this post is really interesting. Cuz see, my role name is Lucy Pevensie, not "vanilla".
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Post Post #656 (isolation #63) » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:47 pm

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kikuchiyo wrote:B) Do you really think town would have a role that reveals names?
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13168
Joe, the "Village Cop", was a rolecop.
kikuchiyo wrote:In other words, RBT would get a result like "White Witch"? I don't see why such a role would exist.
1. Scum has safeclaim Bobby McTown.
2. Cop investigates, gets Joe MightBeScum.
3. Scum claims Bobby.
4. Cop counters Joe.
5. Scum lynched.

Why not a straight alignment cop? To make situations like these more fun?
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Post Post #669 (isolation #64) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:17 am

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Riceballtail wrote:That said, do you want me to claim all I have for PZ? (It would be best if PZ answered first).
Nah. We're just doing names.

Let's lynch Wolf and move on.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #65) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:29 am

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Kiku:
kikuchiyo wrote:I guess I just don't like how the Wolf voters are voting based on the claim and not bothering to make any sort of case as to why Wolframnhart is scum.
kikuchiyo wrote:Wolf, HH, Gawyn, and RBT should be our lynch pool today. I am also inclined to lynch Edmund. He is the only Pevensie with questionable ties to the White Witch.
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Post Post #674 (isolation #66) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:01 am

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Tell me how creating a "lynch pool" based on claims, and wanting to lynch Edmund based on the role, is any different from the people who want to lynch Wolf based on his role.

Also, I don't see how RBT revealing anything else is helpful to the town.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #67) » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:38 am

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kikuchiyo wrote:[Not sure what you mean here. The lynch pool isn't based solely on the claims. All players in the pool have been under suspicion at some time.
I don't follow. You and I have been under suspicion. Manho was nearly lynched. Why aren't we in the lynch pool?
kikuchiyo wrote:We can use the claims to help us figure things out, but lynching based solely on the claims would be poor form. I'd rather not rush to lynch today as a mislynch puts us into a lylo most likely.
Is "incredibly scummy" just your meta or something?
kikuchiyo wrote:I do. Very much so.
Explain then.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #68) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:40 am

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We really, really, really need this day to end.
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Post Post #692 (isolation #69) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 5:08 am

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Deadline is tomorrow. There's really no sense waiting.
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Post Post #694 (isolation #70) » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:48 am

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Unofficial Vote CountRiceballtail (1) - wolframnhart
pwnman (0) -
kikuchiyo (0) -
HackerHuck (0) -
Papa Zito (0) -
wolframnhart (5) - Riceballtail, Papa Zito, evilsnail, pwnman, manho
Narninian (0) -
manho (0) -
evilsnail (0) -
No Lynch (0) -
Not Voting (3) - Narninian, HackerHuck, kikuchiyo

So we end with the second biggest wagon as the not voting wagon.

That makes me uneasy.

Ya'll make sure to do bandwagon analysis tomorrow if I'm not around.
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Post Post #697 (isolation #71) » Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:07 pm

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End Day 1
Starbuck
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kikuchiyo
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wolframnhart
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dybeck
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Riceballtail (1) - HackerHuck
bv310
(3) - pwnman,
Starbuck
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Papa Zito (1) - evilsnail


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Living

Riceballtail - Professor Kirke (rolecop)
pwnman - Mr. Tumnus
HackerHuck - Father Christmas
Papa Zito - Lucy
Narninian - Edmund
manho - Susan
evilsnail - Aslan

Dead

Starbuck - Rumblebuffin (Vanilla Townie)
dybeck - Mr. Beaver (Mason/Lover)
bv310 - Mrs. Beaver (Mason/Lover)
wolframnhart - Oreius (Vanilla Townie)
kikuchiyo - Peter Pevensie (Jailkeeper)


RBT, your results from last night, please.
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Post Post #703 (isolation #72) » Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:11 pm

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manho wrote:i watched lucy, that's PZ, and can't get any result.

i think PZ was jailkeeped by kiku.
I didn't get a PM saying I was blocked or anything. Plus if I was you would have seen kiku target me.
HackerHuck wrote:Papa Zito - is there any reason you are aware of that might have caused Manho's ability to fail?
Uh. No?
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Post Post #712 (isolation #73) » Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:41 pm

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I'm guessing we're in lylo, so now's probably the time for a massclaim. Sigh.
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Post Post #717 (isolation #74) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:56 am

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evilsnail wrote:Here. Agree that a massclaim is probably the best option now. How are we going to pick who claims when?
Popcorn is best.

pwnman claims VT. Choose who claims next, pwnman.
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Post Post #720 (isolation #75) » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:40 pm

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I'm sure everyone is familiar with popcorn, but just in case...

Whoever claimed last picks the next person to claim. You should pick the person you suspect the most out of the group who is remaining... that way, hopefully, the scum are forced to claim before the townies do, which gives them less wiggle room to fake.
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Post Post #724 (isolation #76) » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:45 am

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RBT = rolecop
manho = watcher? I think I missed that claim somewhere.
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Post Post #725 (isolation #77) » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:49 am

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Wait. People aren't posting flavor behind these powers.
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Post Post #728 (isolation #78) » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:54 pm

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HackerHuck wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:Wait. People aren't posting flavor behind these powers.
My flavor doesn't really tie into my power, rather it's just related to the character. Not going to be of much help there.
Post it anyway. Massclaim means everything on the table.

You kids who already claimed, spill the flavor too.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #79) » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:45 am

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evilsnail wrote:The tie in to my flavour should be pretty obvious.
Post it anyway.
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Post Post #734 (isolation #80) » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:45 am

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Why has this game ground to a halt?
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Post Post #746 (isolation #81) » Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:00 am

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RBT is our rolecop, as you'll recall.

Night 1 I protected manho.
Night 2 I protected Narninian.

snail, how is commuter in any way, shape or form close to jailer?
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Post Post #753 (isolation #82) » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:39 am

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HackerHuck wrote:Papa Zito - why did you choose to protect Narninian last night?
Knowing my role, I figured all the Pevensies are PRs, so I decided to pick one of them. I thought kiku would live since she was the target of so much hostility, and I thought Aslan would have some kind of revive feature since he does in the book. I just flipped a coin between manho and Narninian.

And now that Narninian has claimed VT I feel like I protected scum last night.
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Post Post #760 (isolation #83) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:11 am

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HackerHuck wrote:Why not riceball? I would think it important to keep alive the one person who could confirm you.
Confirming me isn't the point. I was trying to guess what the scum were going to do.
Narninian wrote:but pwnman is yet another vanilla townie so I'd say we lynch pwnman.
This is hilarious coming from a claimed VT.

I really need to reread this game. I'm already outed so there's no point lurking anymore.
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Post Post #762 (isolation #84) » Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:39 am

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Riceballtail wrote:
Papa Zito wrote:I'm already outed so there's no point lurking anymore.
Honestly, surprised the scum would have let you live being that Lucy has a fairly strong flavor standing for doc.
I tried to WIFOM them a bit with my soft VT claim yesterday.

Who knows.

The lack of voting tells me I'm right that we're in lylo.

Narninian, you want pwnman or the Huckster dead. K. Is there anything in thread that tells you these two are scum?
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Post Post #765 (isolation #85) » Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:41 pm

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^^^
Win

Let's lynch Narninian Y/y?
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Post Post #769 (isolation #86) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:17 am

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I'll be confirmed town tonight, one way or another.

Manho, why lynch HH first?
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Post Post #770 (isolation #87) » Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:31 am

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I just re-read the game. Narninian is scum.

vote: Narninian
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Post Post #775 (isolation #88) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:00 am

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Guys.

We're in lylo.

I have a vote out.

Scum haven't quickhammered.

Narninian is confirmed scum.
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Post Post #777 (isolation #89) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:55 am

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"Quickhammer" might be the wrong term.

There's been plenty of time for the scum to mosey on in, tie up their horses, have a drink, play a poker game, shoot the place up, and on yeah lay a vote down.

So call it moseyhammer. The scum haven't moseyhammered yet.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #90) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:20 am

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So Huck is also scum. Good to know. I figured based on Heilograph but yaknow, baby steps.
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Post Post #783 (isolation #91) » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:54 pm

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Happy scumday, Narninian.
Kdub wrote:
Vote Count

Riceballtail (0)
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pwnman (1)
- Narninian
HackerHuck (0)
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Papa Zito (0)
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Narninian (1)
- Papa Zito
manho (0)
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evilsnail (1)
- HackerHuck
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Not Voting (4)
- Riceballtail, pwnman, manho, evilsnail
This is terrible.

Okay, here it is.

Town

PZ
RBT
manho
snail

Scum

Narninian
Huckster
pwnman


There's the game. Let's just do this and go home with a W.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #92) » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:34 am

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Great point snail.
Narninian wrote:Also I'd like to point out the 'I'm havn't been lynched since I Am scum' is a fallacy. Pwnman apparently hasn't picked up his prod, so if scum the other 2 would have had to expose themselves to bring me to L-1.
No they wouldn't.

Moseyhammer.
Narninian wrote:Since you agree with me he is scum, lets lynch him.
All in due time. Plus it'd be kinda rude when the guy just replaced in.

Meanwhile, less than a week to go. Come on townies.
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Post Post #845 (isolation #93) » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:38 am

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wat
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Post Post #846 (isolation #94) » Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:40 am

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Papa Zito wrote:wat
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Post Post #849 (isolation #95) » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:38 am

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Massclaim helped us net two good lynches.

Kdub, please check your notes, there must be some mistake.
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