I feel SC miss's the point entirely here:
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You know elvis, all of what you say is coming from someone who's trying to pass herself and SC off as confirmed because you misunderstood a rule.
That's a terrible post. ANYTHING elvis says is coming from that position - do you feel it's enough to discredit any argument she makes about anythign from now to the end of the game?
EK confirms you as town because of thinking scum had a NK. As pointed out unless you ask as scum about this point you don't know whether you have a NK or not as not all mod's are always clear in there role description that a kill is part of the deal.
post 231 I will say a lot of this is WIFOM but some isn't but I will be happy to answer this
1) I think one of you is scum based on my read
2) you could it would be easy to explain later but it's a trail and hard to say if scum would do this but again I don't like random imprints from people
3) meh? I would like this rephrased
4) he does and there is no reason for scum to not realize this as I showed
5) what?
6) what?
5 and 6 don't make sense I think it's questions on the future of the game which leads to WIFOM then.
Just for clarification:
elvis_knits wrote:The Buttonmen wrote:Basically theres a whole lot a scum and not that many town, thus voting is tilted in scum favour, so by randomizing we remove that. Now if we randomly chose a player day 1 and repeatedly imprint them and vote NL until they find scum we have a 66% of winning right now and honestly with a 2-1 town to scum ratio that's a hell of a lot better win % then playing the game straight up.
This is wrong. And scummy.
There are 4 scum and 8 town. You're making it sound like town is in the minority. We are twice as strong at the scum right now.
What I would like to know reading back again between these 2 post why you focused just on the odds that button mentions and not the idea? He does say 2-1 in town favor so I'm not sure how you come up with this post in the first place.
elvis_knits wrote:
Well, when I thought buttonman was misrepping the town's influence (ie, saying there is a lot of scum and not many town sounds like we are in the minority, which is not true), I thought he was scummy.
But I think he is actually trying to win the game (through breaking the game). So that's not scummy.
VMD: post 249 you are voting for EK who you state is probably town and your calling jason probably scum because he has not posted? Did you look to see if he posted elsewhere or if he was simply a no show or anything when compiling this list. Also nice and quick imprint of self after asking many times why people are doing and saying it seems scummy.
based on the game brake talk
imprint: TheBUttonmen
bah reading SC post about EK in 215 I get the impression he is just impressed with EK and ignoring things that he shouldn't.
VMD: There are exactly four people who I feel are not posting enough: lewarcher, Jason, DN, and Plum. That's enough to make up a scumteam of people lazing around drinking margaritas while town beats up town.
scum don't post or is this almost the evilant of lynching lurkers in this post that leaves a bad taste especially as not too long ago she was saying Plum was town.
i have to agree with post 259 about lew from pug
And on that note, if I didn't already know DN's meta is to post very curtly and anti-townly like this, I would have buried him ages ago. If you can prove to me that you always sit back like this no matter your alignment, lewarcher, then I will cut you some slack, otherwise post moar or die.
meta is really overrated. Judging by one game or multiple games does DN act like this no matter his alignment?
POST: 278 from EK: someone did comment on it and you ignored it. Why do you feel so strongly that it needs to be answered? As a townie who has no information on who is town or scum would you not question the budding going on between two players as you and SC have done?
post 284: I really dislike people who call a post good because it agrees with their theories and comments. Basically my big issue with SC is he has called 2 people scum for disagree with EK and him on their actions. Just a pev
post 292: yeah lets all high 5 each other for agreeing with EK. Again just feels like someone giving a person protown because they agreed with you.
EK wrote:Some of the other reactions I got from people have not seemed pro-town. They have seemed like panicked attempts to stop the town from confirming two town players.
Okay now that I pointed out the role and how it was written to the scum and how scum mods do not automatically put in their role PM's that scum have a kill between them how do you figure this clears you and SC?
Thank you reck for pointing out the same thing I saw!
This stuff about people being semi-cleared because they "didn't understand the setup" is complete bullshit. I read the rules, but even I glazed over the fact that scum lacked a night kill. I read the sample PMs, and I still didn't get it. It wasn't until the Mod clarified that I finally realized it. It's a null-tell. Trying to push it as a town-tell is a slight-scum-tell, though.
OMG post is so what I'm thinking I want to imprint: recknor
@Reckoner: Why the voted on DN? Why the IGMEOY to TheButtonmen who you did imprint?
@SC post 311 ah I read that incorrectly I realize now it was worded oddly.
I have a suggestion. Lynch DN, imprint me. If I'm wrong, and he's town, I'll be the next lynch, and I'll tell you all what my power was and where I used it and what I found. If I'm right, we lynch Starbuck and imprint me and elvis.
HELL NO!!!!
SerialClergyman wrote:You wouldn't agree to imprint me knowing I'd only have the chance to use it once if dn is town, even if I was scum?
You could lie about what your PR is. We don't know what the imprint is that your getting and right now my trust in your or EK is lacking. Mind you if you lie then we lynch you and I would only agree to give you an imprint if we did a no lynch that is how little I trust either you or EK
TheButtonmen: post 320 umm town gets the imprint only for the night
SC post 321: how doe DN turning up town make you scum exactly? This post confuses me.
TheButtonmen: pst 323 is the man!
SC: 325 AtE much. Umm lets see DN comes up scum you are saying your town what else is a person to think reading that? Saying that only you and EK should get an imprint when most find suspion on EK means you are ignoring the majority. Pfft you miss the point of clearning you and her is a null tell I see
But aside from all that, the biggest criticisms of elvis I can see is her 'overreaction' to DN, which of course she can be clared of if he's scum, and her buddying/clearing of me, which again is supported by a DN scumflip
Again I don't see how DN flip clears you and EK.
SC: Why are you protecting EK? I mean I really want to understand why you are so sure she is town.
Some of the other reactions I got from people have not seemed pro-town. They have seemed like panicked attempts to stop the town from confirming two town players.
Okay now that I pointed out the role and how it was written to the scum and how scum mods do not automatically put in their role PM's that scum have a kill between them how do you figure this clears you and SC?
Thank you reck for pointing out the same thing I saw!
reck wrote:This stuff about people being semi-cleared because they "didn't understand the setup" is complete bullshit. I read the rules, but even I glazed over the fact that scum lacked a night kill. I read the sample PMs, and I still didn't get it. It wasn't until the Mod clarified that I finally realized it. It's a null-tell. Trying to push it as a town-tell is a slight-scum-tell, though.
OMG post is so what I'm thinking I want to
imprint: recknor
@Reckoner: Why the voted on DN? Why the IGMEOY to TheButtonmen who you did imprint?
@SC post 311 ah I read that incorrectly I realize now it was worded oddly.
[quote="sc"I have a suggestion. Lynch DN, imprint me. If I'm wrong, and he's town, I'll be the next lynch, and I'll tell you all what my power was and where I used it and what I found. If I'm right, we lynch Starbuck and imprint me and elvis. [/quote]
HELL NO!!!!
SerialClergyman wrote:You wouldn't agree to imprint me knowing I'd only have the chance to use it once if dn is town, even if I was scum?
You could lie about what your PR is. We don't know what the imprint is that your getting and right now my trust in your or EK is lacking. Mind you if you lie then we lynch you and I would only agree to give you an imprint if we did a no lynch that is how little I trust either you or EK
TheButtonmen: post 320 umm town gets the imprint only for the night
SC post 321: how does DN turning up town make you scum exactly? This post confuses me.
TheButtonmen: pst 323 is the man!
SC: 325 AtE much. Umm lets see DN comes up scum you are saying your town what else is a person to think reading that? Saying that only you and EK should get an imprint when most find suspicion on EK means you are ignoring the majority. Pfft you miss the point of clearing you and her is a null tell I see
sc wrote:
But aside from all that, the biggest criticisms of elvis I can see is her 'overreaction' to DN, which of course she can be clared of if he's scum, and her buddying/clearing of me, which again is supported by a DN scumflip
Again I don't see how DN flip clears you and EK.
SC: Why are you protecting EK? I mean I really want to understand why you are so sure she is town.
Finally I can't say vala is on my town list. I see a few discrepancies from here that bother me.
I think have 2 people imprinted or 3 imprinted with a no lynch is best too.
vote: EK
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