this "glork" guy
i don't like him.
this guy has got the right idea.Erratus Apathos wrote:Octopuses don't have fingers. Lynch the liar!Glork wrote:Trust me, an octopus would be FoSing Yos, too.
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Vote: Glork
this is the most depressing vote count ever.OhGodMyLife wrote:Vote Count:7 to lynch.
Xtoxm: 2 (Incognito, charter)
Glork: 2 (Coriolanus, Erratus Apathos)
Incognito: 2 (Yosarian2, Xtoxm)
Pathetric: 1 (Glork)
Yosarian2: 1 (dahill1)
charter: 1 (Assmaster)
Tuberkulos: 1 (Rally Vincent)
Not Voting: 2 (Tuberkulos, Pathetric)
IOW, if it did count for something, you'd be dead.Glork wrote:Elaborate?Coriolanus wrote:considering the player list, i'm disappointed by the lack of glork death. apparently experience doesn't count for much.
experience is praised because a greater experience means a greater ability to hunt scum/whatever. if you're scum, then the experience failed to help. it's a deliberately stupid argument.Glork wrote:That's what I want you to elaborate on.
How does "experience counts for something" translate to "Glork should be dead"? I don't understand that statement at all.
i would be curious to know what the fuck you're talking aboutI would be curious to know where Coriolanus learned about Glork and not the rest of us.
WELL THEN WHAT'S YOUR POINT?? if you understand that the argument wasGlork wrote:It was page one of the game. Of course it was a deliberately stupid argument. Do you know what the "random voting stage" is?
and what shit do i give?(And of course you'll deny being an alt.)
no clue what the evidence for this is. if i had replaced "glork" with "dahill", what difference would it have made?dahill1 wrote:this.Pathetric wrote:I would be curious to know where Coriolanus learned about Glork and not the rest of us.
corio definitely seems to know glork in some way, but i guess that's kinda beside the point.
what?also, corio i see your point about glork and his experience etc., but isn't this day start so glork couldn't have possibly died?
this website is linked in a hundred thousand places in the internet.Glork wrote:So unless you're a raw newbie who happens to have his shit down pretty well and spent some time researching the playerlist before actually diving into the game, you've obviously been around the block before.
i want fucking evidence.Yosarian2 wrote: I'm not really sure why you're getting so defensive about this, either.
oh please. anybody with a brain could determine that without any "research"Glork wrote:It implies that you knew coming into this that there were several reputable players, which I don't see the average (or even the above-average) brand-new-player being likely to make anything of.
how helpful. you have all been.Glork wrote: That said, I know you're an alt, and you can deny it all you want, but it won't change a damned thing. If I thought that your behavior made you more likely to be scum, I'd be calling for your head right now. But as things stand, I think this is becoming more of a distraction than anything else, so I'd like to drop it and get back to finding scumbaggoes.
glork has a greater number of posts IIRC.Incognito wrote:This last page or two has been somewhat confusing. Coriolanus, why doesn't your comment about Glork apply even moreso to Yosarian2 who, if I'm not mistaken, has even more playing experience than Glork does?
obviously a lynch.What exactly did you mean by "Glork death"? A Glork-lynch or a Glork-NK?
it's called a "deflection", a "waste of space", or "a way of avoiding doing anything productive."Assmaster wrote:I have no idea what Yos is trying to achieve with this. It seems like he's trying to argue Coro into admitting he is an alt, which I don't think has any relevance to whether he's scum or not.
and your solution is a contribution of more waste? notice how you just slipped by and voted assmaster.Tuberkulos wrote:Now that was a waste of four pages.
bullshitdahill wrote: being an alt or not isn't that important, but him blowing up for us accusing him of being one does seem off.
don't give a shit, sorry. i meant what i said. if you think that's worth voting me for, just fucking do it, but i'm in the business of scumhunting not defending myself over one comment.Glork wrote:
Corio, would you care to respond to my FoS?
Yosarian wrote:Why is that?
i'm starting to believe this is a post restrictiondahill wrote:why is xtoxm not a good lynch?
unless you can prove that the scum are more likely to claim vanilla than town are, this is basically just pulled out of your ass.Yosarian2 wrote:Town should never claim vanillia, at all, but scum tend to want to claim vanillia, so it's a scum tell.
exactly why i think he shouldn't be lynched today (although when i tried to verbalize that before glork shit his pretty little panties). he's got absolutely no information benefit; he's a sinkhole. so unless you've got a great reason for why he's scum, i see no reason to lead a bandwagon on him now. unless, of course, you're planning on getting him lynched. which is something that i really don't foresee unless xtoxm does something monumentally stupid.Plus, he's a safe lynch now that he's a claimed vanillia (he's either a vanillia or a scum), and if he gets lynched no one else has to claim, which protects the power roles.
thanks for making me read two paragraphs. i guess writing superfluous sentences really makes the bullshit seem more official.Glork wrote:HThis is at least the second time you've preached about "having better things to do," yet.I DON'T SEE YOU DOING THESE "THINGS" THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
i have done more than simply write "vote dahill: for sheeping." but even if it was, i want to know how it isglork wrote:but if you get right down to it, his real-time contributions to the game have amounted to a vote on dahill for sheeping, and now defending Xtox.
i read a mini game on this site where a player (meme, i think it was) said something about not mentioning when you think a player is town. that is something i thoroughly believe in. i think pathetric has been providing the greatest insights in this game so far (particularly the ether half), and i view ass and charter as very town. i admit that i haven't really considered vincent and incog, and that is probably a mistake of mine. but i think on the whole those players were not worth engaging.Glork wrote:.
You have interacted at reasonable lengths with me, dahill, xtoxm, and Yosarian2.
You have addresssed Tuberkulos and Erratus exactly once.
Unless I missed something, you have not ONCE mentioned or talked with Charter, Vincent, Incog, Pathetric, or Ass.
i don't think this is an accurate depiction of my behavior.You seem to want everyone to do this, but you don't seem especially willing to practice what you preach.
you use what works for you. i don't have the skill, time, patience, willpower, or willingness to use rhetoric well.If you are dissatisfied with this, I can pull as many examples as you want until you're satisfied.
don't care. i'm just here to state what i'm not going to do.And I'm not saying this to get a point across to anybody but YOU. This is how I play at times, and you're going to have to deal with it. End of story.
also don't care. FWIW, i'm never going to believe that (verbosity is not rhetoric.) minimalism seems to me always the way to go.So don't go telling me that verbosity isn't useful to a protown player, because I guarantee you, you are DEAD wrong in that regard.
quotations were a mistake and i apologize for them. the point still stands.Who is this directed at, and where did that person refer to the wagon as "useless"? Nowhere between pages 6 and 9 was that word ever used, aside from your post. For someone who just bitched to me about "oratorical gymnastics," you have chosen your misquote rather poorly.
i have major issues with this analogy, in that the town doesn't use the same methods a police force would. let me try to use it anyway:tuber wrote:Coriolanus got quite worked up in the alt-or-not discussion, but it's nothing that interests me. I don't understand his logic about letting Xtoxm live through the day if he is scum.
"Officer, we have reports on a violent man at Ceasars Palace."
"Okay, but let's go the Mirage instead."
"But Officer..."
"No butts! Let's go to the Mirage. Maybe there is a criminal there too?"
Makes no sense to me at all.
i think that there are other tactics that can be used outside of scumtells. i read an article on MTGS by a player named azrael that can explain my philosophy pretty well, but since this conversation is hopelessly vague and isn't going anywhere i don't think it would be of much use.EA wrote:Why use anything? Well, it beats using nothing.
that's stupid. it should be pretty clear it was a joke.Glork wrote:It feels like Corio was going too far continuing his whole "dahill sheeping" thing (which, by the way, I don't find particularly abnormal for dahill), but fell upon "no, joke" when dahill pointed out the timestamps. It seemed insincere to me.Patrick wrote:I'd also like to know what's scummy about this.
your use of this analogy is scummy.That's still a terrible idea. You're going to let one criminal run amok for a while longer because there MIGHT be another criminal elsewhere?
192 posts in that game. you are going to find something if you look hard enough. and that game was over a year ago. a more relevant game is:Glork wrote:Yeah, I'm working out the same thing. At least I have something to meta now. I'm thinking of going back to look at Communique if I have some time during the holidays.
i agree with the first conclusion, but i don't follow the second. please explain this.yos wrote:I think he was intentioanlly trying to deter people from voting him using a self vote, and that is scummy.
again i agree, and again i'm puzzled as to why this is scummy.Even though the two people he's talking about, me and Glork, are both people he ONLY suspected AFTER they had attacked him.
i don't have anything to apologize for, except that i haven't been perceptive enough. this is not a charge that glork leveled against me, though, so it can't be counted as "buddying up."226 - I don't like Corio's extreme buddying up and apologizing for something he doesn't need to apologize about. Sounds like he just wants to please everybody.
where have i done so?charter wrote:I'd also say something more along the lines of Corio wants to make it publicly known that he's here and 'scumhunting' when I don't see the need to make it this known to everyone.
One game, as his mason buddy, in Freedom Force. I am, somewhat. I think Xtoxm is town because of how awkward he was in the beginning of the game, suggesting someone who isn't taking instruction from anybody, and how quick he was to vote for himself. That takes balls that scum I think just wouldn't have.incognito wrote:how much experience do you have playing with Xtoxm? Are you in any way basing your read of him in this game off of the single Freedom Force game that the two of you played together? What was it about Xtoxm's reactions make you think he's "obviously town" as you mentioned below?:
Yos wrote:EXPLAIN HOW WHAT I SAID MADE YOU THINK I "EITHER KNOW OR BELIEVE" YOU ARE TOWN. DON'T KEEP REPEATING THE SAME GARBAGE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, EXPLAIN WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
i voted xtoxm for the pressure wagon. this is untrue.charter wrote:He flip flopped on Xtoxm pretty badly. He first says he'd be down for lynching Xtoxm, but knows he plays anti-town as town (and I got the impression that he wouldn't want an Xtoxm lynch due to this fact), then votes him for saying he's playing anti-town (and that's it).
also untrue. i've provided my thoughts onI also don't see any scumhunting. There was that bit with Corio in the beginning, which I also didn't understand from him, and he later dropped that entirely too. Pretty much the only other person I've seen him give an opinion on is tuber, and I don't see how he got to his conclusions.
either you implied it or there was no reason to bring it up.charter wrote:I never said it was scummy, I said I didn't see the need to do it.
exactly why i made the account: so i could say what i felt and not have to be meta'd for it.Simenon could have been attempting to feign a certain level of inexperience so as to not be held accountable for the types of scummy things he may have said early on.