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actually damn it no. there's a VC right above my unvote, I thought I was caught up but I don't remember the chem unvote and some of the quoted posts I don't remember either. I might need to reread the whole phase again. I'll be on for quite awhile I think. Is there anything anyone wants to talk about/ask me that is urgent though?it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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Starting my reread of the phase. I've been inebriated more than usual and really tired when I've checked in the last few days so I don't think my memory/comprehension of the phase is up to par.
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I think this was already addressed but I guess SoaS was supposed to inherit this role, mastina's, and/or anyone else that has a water role?
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If my prior post is true then I'm thinking one of JJH/Elbirn is scum. Either jjh was onto something with the traitor idea he talked about or he knocked off SoaS due to the power he could gain when others died. I do not know what SoaS knew (the roles of the players that had water) but I believe jjh stated that he knew mastina had a water role. I don't remember there being any talk of TD having such a role. It seems weird that scum!jjh would shoot SoaS given that he could just shoot mastina (or whoever else he knew to have a water role) first and then assess what role SoaS got from reading the flip. At the same time scum!jjh would have partners factoring into the kill so that isn't concrete. Of course this could all be a wifom play from scum!jjh (perhaps using this own reasoning) down the line and taking out the backup as a means of future security. That seems like a bit of a long shot.In post 1375, jjh927 wrote:Umm also deb's info was that there was at least one role in the game that had to do with water.
But at the same time we see EOD of phase one jjh is somewhat defending mastina iirc which I don't quite understand from a scum perspective... unless they are a team in which lynching mastina would never be viable for jjh, therefore he needed to take out the backup on night one. If this is the case then it explains the NK quite well and even moreso since a scum!mastina and scum!jjh team means jjh KNOWS the role that SoaS would receive (and mastina was looking pretty scummy and getting a lot of flak for her late "entrance" to D1). So it seems possible that scum!jjh could have been anticipating the mastina lynch and taking out SoaS as both a future security measure and a "what was that nightkill" kind of scenario where everyone clamors for an answer. Admit it or not I think pretty much everyone does some NKA in their head to try and make sense of things.
Pair this with his stance on the Korina wagon and I'm actually starting to wonder again if jjh is a viable lynch option today. Just as I type this out I realize how significant it feels compared to the traitor idea that jjh brought up to implicate a scum!elbirn and I'm wondering why someone of Mastina's status wouldn't point it out beyond the "mastina defends jjh as any alignment" or whatever the weird explanation for their relationship was. Quite frankly I'm now wondering howanyexperienced player hasn't caught on to the fact that the backup role guy shows up dead and the one he had a pt with isn't a top suspect given the reasoning I just explained with water roles and what that could imply for the future.
On the one hand I keep coming back to "why wouldn't he just knock off mastina N1 and shoot SoaS N2" but the potential that has already been pointed out for a scumpairing with him and mastina, plus how obvious that might look to take out the water role and then the backup (that jjh knew WAS a back up) shows that there is an extra layer of complexity here.
Given the fact that TD was a half full/empty water bottle (1/2 implying 2 water roles? him and mastina?) I have to wonder if SoaS divulged that information to jjh. If he did I would think scum!jjh might know the water but not the role seeing as
1. they obviously can't be scummates after seeing TD flip and
2. why shoot a copscetic if you already know his role?
Add to this jjh's enthusiasm to townread TD after the tinfoil posts (which I don't necessarily disagree with, just seems like weak reasoning for a town!jjh given his take on the game so far) that shortly accused jjh, and then TD shows up dead.
Is it a coincidence that jjh's stance on TD evolves like this, TD turns up dead the next day, and just so happens to be a water related role? Maybe. But I do not believe so.
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I've got another potential scumpairing that I'm keeping tabs on and there's a few circumstancial pieces of evidence that I've noticed over the phase but upon my reread this post made me realize there may yet be even more.In post 1388, Menalque wrote:You’re too much of a liability to live at this point anyway jjh
If it’s true and you’re town then I think it’s reasonably likely that scum just kill you tonight as you’ve claimed that if you take any damage you die, and scum prob have something that does at least some damage
So why keep you alive when there are always gonna be massive questions over your slot, there’s good reason to believe that you’ll flip red, and decent odds that if town then we just lose two town tonight?
And it's probably not what you would think given the post that I quoted, it's actually very removed from what I assume people would think given the quote. I am just quoting it to remind me of a certain thing depending on what flips today/tonight.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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I wish chem would have answered my question awhile back about if he knew what item(s) momo submitted but 1395 (specifically the answer to it) actually (I think) got the information I wanted. Which is that chem didn't have the PT access at the beginning, therefore he probably also didn't/doesn't know what items were submitted for his slot. Both of these are mod errors if true, and the amount of time it took to replace momo was also mod error.
Therefore I do not believe chemist necessarily deserves the benefit of the doubt. Overall I do still think he is town. I think a scum!TL flip would actually confirm chemist as town but if TL were to flip green I think my trust in chem would fall substantially. Obvious jjh's flip/actions would also play a role here but I don't want to go to into that right now.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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In post 1410, Menalque wrote:That was such a WIFOMy fucking kill, my god
thoughts on 1916?In post 1411, Menalque wrote:Probably implies 1 of (elbirn, mastina)it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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Okay.. you too. Thoughts on 1916? If you're town for the love of god please give me something to work with.In post 1414, TemporalLich wrote:
That's really easy to say after seeing TD bleed green...In post 1413, jjh927 wrote:The kill makes sense because TD was obvtown
I'm kinda confused tbh, but TD green makes jjh highly likely to be scum.
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agreed^ fwiw that seemed kind of fishy from elbirn as wellIn post 1429, Menalque wrote:
Don’t do that chemIn post 1427, Elbirn wrote:
ElaborateIn post 1425, Chemist1422 wrote:I am claiming a softclear on jjh
We should not be hammering him this early, and probably not at all
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In post 1432, Chemist1422 wrote:
I rolecopped jjh last nightIn post 1427, Elbirn wrote:
ElaborateIn post 1425, Chemist1422 wrote:I am claiming a softclear on jjh
We should not be hammering him this early, and probably not at all
I know his role is accurate to what he's claiming, and would likely be negative utility for scum
I will go into no further detail
actually mindmeld with TL here. I already addressed my thoughts on this situation but it is worth noting that TL pointing it out first gives him some sort of towncred (to me at least)In post 1433, TemporalLich wrote:Considering Elements was a scum bloodhound my likelyhood of trusting that claim is like .1%it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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I am against a massclaim right now. There's a lot of shit going on and a lot of night actions to wonder about but I'm thinking that would help scum more at the moment.
At least from my understanding a mass claim hurts town when we are this far from lylo (based on the assumption of 3 scum)it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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Well I have too many scumreads/leans right now to say I feel 3 scum is confirmed but I have this itching suspicion of an arsonist or something similar. I guess we'll know when we all go up in flames.
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jjh as long as you don't break the rules surrounding not quoting private information then I would like to hear anything that's going to help me sort you. Because I feel like it's not really a conspiracy theory at all.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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The negative utility for scum part. I'm (and TL was) saying scum had a fucking bloodhound so why should we be so certain that whatever chemist knows isn't just another weird scum role. At least that's how I took TL's post.Elbirn wrote:
Why does TL not believe the claim when *he gave chemist the rolecop shot*In post 1926, eth0s wrote:In post 1432, Chemist1422 wrote:
I rolecopped jjh last nightIn post 1427, Elbirn wrote:
ElaborateIn post 1425, Chemist1422 wrote:I am claiming a softclear on jjh
We should not be hammering him this early, and probably not at all
I know his role is accurate to what he's claiming, and would likely be negative utility for scum
I will go into no further detail
actually mindmeld with TL here. I already addressed my thoughts on this situation but it is worth noting that TL pointing it out first gives him some sort of towncred (to me at least)In post 1433, TemporalLich wrote:Considering Elements was a scum bloodhound my likelyhood of trusting that claim is like .1%
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I'm confused. I just think that you used info deb gave you to make calculated kills. Or at the very least it factored into it. If you think giving us a summary of the PT helps your case then go for itIn post 1941, jjh927 wrote:
I mean, it's a theory that I'm hiding a conspiracy from you in the PT with debIn post 1938, eth0s wrote:Well I have too many scumreads/leans right now to say I feel 3 scum is confirmed but I have this itching suspicion of an arsonist or something similar. I guess we'll know when we all go up in flames.
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jjh as long as you don't break the rules surrounding not quoting private information then I would like to hear anything that's going to help me sort you. Because I feel like it's not really a conspiracy theory at all.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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agreedIn post 1944, Menalque wrote:What’s an arsonist?
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mastina outed her own water thing pretty quickly. I still think that's weird. And I still think you might've already known that before she said it. Like I said, feel free to post the not-logs if the mod okays it but the main thing I'm concerned about is something you could omit anyway so I'm just not sure what it'll proveIn post 1950, jjh927 wrote:
The main thing to note is that deb only told me he was informed that there was at least one role in the game that had to do with water. I knew nothing else about his roleIn post 1945, eth0s wrote:
I'm confused. I just think that you used info deb gave you to make calculated kills. Or at the very least it factored into it. If you think giving us a summary of the PT helps your case then go for itIn post 1941, jjh927 wrote:
I mean, it's a theory that I'm hiding a conspiracy from you in the PT with debIn post 1938, eth0s wrote:Well I have too many scumreads/leans right now to say I feel 3 scum is confirmed but I have this itching suspicion of an arsonist or something similar. I guess we'll know when we all go up in flames.
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jjh as long as you don't break the rules surrounding not quoting private information then I would like to hear anything that's going to help me sort you. Because I feel like it's not really a conspiracy theory at all.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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found the arsonist.In post 1952, Menalque wrote:
Sounds kinky, I’m inIn post 1951, eth0s wrote:Oh and an arsonist douses people with gas and can continue to douse people until they choose to ignite then everyone doused will burn and die together.
On a serious note, mena. Why does it feel like you're itching to vote me and why does it feel like you've become so trustworthy of jjh given your past relationship this game?
You've made a few posts implying that you're worried about my alignment and it really sticks out to me now that you're asking jjh how he feels.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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I know I have scum colored lenses on right now but this looks weird.In post 1445, jjh927 wrote:Less scum than TL, more scum than everyone else in the game
Because I'm getting flashbacks to the time when a load of people lynched scum!mastina while I said she was town because of some role stuff. I've realised I just don't really try to place mastina very hardit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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her next postIn post 1448, jjh927 wrote:
I think she was a townread because it was easy for me to just say she was town and be done with it ngl. I've gained a bit of self awarenessIn post 1446, Elbirn wrote:Jjh you've ignored me asking why mastina was a townread all game and now shes a scumread of yours
Thefuck
I'll help you bus your buddy if you want but I'm not happy
VOTE: Mastina
I'm not voting there yet;I'm looking for something when she next starts posting
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I need to think about this one.In post 1465, mastina wrote:
My role also has to do with water; I'm a 2-liter water bottle. My ability is rather different from TD's tho.In post 1375, jjh927 wrote:Umm also deb's info was that there was at least one role in the game that had to do with water.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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this still confuses the fuck out of me.In post 1451, Sujimichi wrote:mastina is a bad vote for today because she dies tonight.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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Noted.In post 1966, jjh927 wrote:Eth0s, since it's not actually important any more because I think I misjudged mastina's thought process, what I was looking for was to see whether or not she suddenly started to scumread me
I need a mental break. I'm going tunnel mode and that isn't going to be helpful in the middle of my D3 reread so ttfnit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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I think I know what you're saying but if so I'm guilty of doing the same thing as town.In post 1975, mastina wrote:
We can all tell that this is a scumclaim yes, right?In post 1689, TemporalLich wrote:A Town Inventor (Rolecop, Doctor, Roleblocker)
I don't need to explain why it is one, yes?
I still think TL has a good chance of flipping scum but you and jjh make a way more sensible team than TL + anyone else. There's more evidence that jjh flips red than you but if he does I am insta voting you.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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get used to it. I'll honestly compromise on lynching mastina this phase if she really doesn't expand on that soon because I'm tired of dealing with this. She didn't even address my big post at allIn post 1978, Sujimichi wrote:Was that it?
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whatIn post 1982, TemporalLich wrote:if I think jjh is flipping green why would I vote jjh?it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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then it seems you should explain.In post 1998, mastina wrote:
That wouldn't be it then.In post 1979, eth0s wrote:
I think I know what you're saying but if so I'm guilty of doing the same thing as town.In post 1975, mastina wrote:
We can all tell that this is a scumclaim yes, right?In post 1689, TemporalLich wrote:A Town Inventor (Rolecop, Doctor, Roleblocker)
I don't need to explain why it is one, yes?
I'm not interested in commenting on why I'm voting jjh over TL until you acknowledge the giant fucking post I wrote specifically about that.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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yeah so it's just a coincidence I guess?In post 2001, mastina wrote:
What was there to address?In post 1981, eth0s wrote:
get used to it. I'll honestly compromise on lynching mastina this phase if she really doesn't expand on that soon because I'm tired of dealing with this. She didn't even address my big post at allIn post 1978, Sujimichi wrote:Was that it?
It was a post of self-evident paranoia. It's moonlogic based on hypotheses that violate occam's razor. I didn't address it because there was nothing in there to address. It was empty spitballing about a theory you had which has no evidence to back it.
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For starters that only applied to day 2.In post 2021, jjh927 wrote:What's changed since this
In post 949, eth0s wrote:Okay here's where I'm at with TL. I think I physically feel a blood vessel popping in my head just trying to parse his recent posts. So forgive me if this seems heavy handed but even if I regret it later I am sticking to it.
I am going to QUICKHAMMER TL if he gets to L-1 at any point in Day 2
yes you read that right. All day one -- before it was interrupted abruptly with the bad korina lynch -- I had been trying to figure out how I am going to approach TL.
I thought to myself "do I just push a policy lynch?"
"do I wait to see some kind of behavior that differs from our last game?" (the alien talk trolling BS is the only think I have noticed here so far but that feels really weak)
"do I just ignore him and let the rest of the town decide his fate?"
like I said, I never got an answer before the day closed.
Now it's Day 2.
It's too late to policy lynch him so here is where I'm at.
If I see the differing behavior on a level that actually strikes me as AI, I'm going to deathtunnel that shit jjh style.
I can't ignore him anymore, he is actually triggering me.
SO I am left with two options in my mind.
I either avoid voting him like the plague until mylo/lylo where my working theory is that people will actually be able to somewhat read him based on PoE, OR if it comes to it, at least for the current dayphase I QUICKHAMMER HIM IF HE HITS L-1
I mentally can't try to sort that slot for the time being. Like I really just can't soTREAT HIS L-2 LIKE AN L-1 AND GET HIS CLAIM THERE IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT OUT OF YOUR VOTE BECAUSE I SWEAR TO GOD I AM QUICKLYNCHING HIM IF YOU GIVE ME THE CHANCE
Other than that I could quote you everything I've said in the last 24 or so hours but I don't see that as a great option so I'll summarize instead.
There is actual fruitful conversation going on.
Your positioning on elements wagon was horrible, makes your stance on korina look even worse, SoaS and TD deaths make NO SENSE to anyone except you (and mastina by way of water role).
^everything else I pointed out in 1916 that I didn't cover here
I actually agree with some of TD's logic this phase particularly surrounding why it doesn't make sense to assume chemist is right about your alignment based on the role info he received, given the scum bloodhound.
And to a much lesser degree I often see the lynch after one like elements being just totally wrong. At least from my perspective when I'm apart of it. I felt very strongly that Elements would flip scum. That's why I advocated for his lynch so hard over my other scumreads. It didn't hurt that he wasn't cooperating with me or giving good answers to anyone honestly.
But then there's TL who I always have to view with the possibility of mislynch bait based on what I know from his meta. It just seems too risky because he hasn't said anything that leads me to believe he's playing a "different game" other than the weird alien/demon/ghost shit or whatever you'd call it.
what hasn't changed:
TL posting very odd and scummy things
my willingness to lynch TL if it seems like the only possible thing out of {jjh, mastina, TL}
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I don't expect that anyone actually read the Crosswords game I linked but the way TL plays is just so fucking bizarre to me and having dealt with him first hand being what turned out to be mislynch bait thatabsolutelywould have been mislynched if not for being a PR, it makes it really hard for me to commit to that. If I knew you and mastina were town I'd definitely be more optimistic about him flipping scum but I'm not sure if you'll be able to convince me at this point given your wagon history. And Mastina "isn't even trying" in this game due to [redacted] which would normally be rule breaking but apparently it isn't in this game.
You're equally if not more scummy than TL is and given the fact that you might have some super powerful ability coming up and all of the other "paranoid conspiracy" (-mastina) that points to you makes me really not feel safe with you in the game anymore. I was willing to give you a chance for the day but the findings of 1916 and Elbirn's approach to TL made me reconsider. Chemist saying nothing beyond "his role is probably town" does zilch to comfort me for reasons already mentioned a million times.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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if it's a 3 scum game then I believe it's
1{jjh, mastina}; 2{TL, Elbirn}; 3{TL, [redacted black]}; 4{[redacted black], [redacted green]}; 5{[redacted white], elbirn}; 6{mastina, ???}; 7{jjh, [redacted white]}
in order of most to least likely pairings.
These are subject to change mostly hinging on a flip at this point it seems.
a red flip in anything heavily implicates the other player in the pair.
a green flip in group 1 (jjh) most likely implicates group 3 or 2.
a green flip in group 1 (mastina) most likely implicates group 2
a green flip in group 2 (elbirn) most likely implicates group 3 or 1.
a green flip in group 2/3 (TL) most likely implicates group 1.
anything 3/4+ is a long shot but comes into the picture depending on the flip.
I don't care to expand on this right now, it's more of a reference for later.
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This suji/mastina argument has basically turned into
"players play a town game the same way every game regardless of outside factors" -suji
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"it's impossible to fake good, towny posts as scum" -mastina
and I am almost certain one of them is scum at this point. Obviously I lean scum!Mastina over scum!Suji but it really doesn't read like a TvT argument.
In a game where there are no/less factors in it than this one I would typically consider Suji to be the scum for his position but given the context of the game and my reads right now (with an honorable mention that Mastina should know better than to imply that a scum can't "my posts are so towny" their way into deepwolfing) Mastina is probably the scum of the two.
The way I see it:
a Mastina redflip means jjh is the partner like 99% (I still think given the odds that I see here jjh should go first but I digress).
a suji redflip means... I don't really know honestly. Elbirn would probably be the partner there but I don't think Suji is getting lynched today anyway so I don't feel like efforting much there. I would imagine others probably think it implicates me and that's understandable honestly.
(other likely rope candidates today)
a TL redflip points probably to elbirn but potentially [redacted black] too. his partner is straight up chemist if a pure/not-disloyal scum inventor though. I'm still interested to know why people (mena and chemist I think) believe that I would be the scummate there btw.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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I derped #7 in my method to assign players to colorsIn post 2028, eth0s wrote:if it's a 3 scum game then I believe it's
1{jjh, mastina}; 2{TL, Elbirn}; 3{TL, [redacted black]}; 4{[redacted black], [redacted green]}; 5{[redacted white], elbirn}; 6{mastina, ???}; 7{jjh, [redacted black]}it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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shit i meant to be able to ctrl-F that easily
~~~~~In post 2028, eth0s wrote:if it's a 3 scum game then I believe it's
1{jjh, mastina}; 2{TL, Elbirn}; 3{TL, [redacted black]}; 4{[redacted black], [redacted green]}; 5{[redacted white], elbirn}; 6{mastina, ???}; 7{jjh, [redacted black]}it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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~~~~~In post 2028, eth0s wrote:if it's a 3 scum game then I believe it's
1{jjh, mastina}; 2{TL, Elbirn}; 3{TL, [redacted pink]}; 4{[redacted black], [redacted green]}; 5{[redacted white], elbirn}; 6{mastina, ???}; 7{jjh, [redacted black]}it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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the one with fugitive?In post 2034, jjh927 wrote:Fuck why did your scumgame have to be good now I have to think againit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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did you even read my jjh&mastina caseIn post 2148, TemporalLich wrote:I'm not sure how mastina is scum other than "mastina is possibly a deepwolf so we have to be paranoid"it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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In post 2032, jjh927 wrote:I'd love to talk you off of this but you keep coming back with weird shit, and you're right that nothing either me or mastina can say is likely to convince you, because you are excessively inclined to place additional value on your own logic and conclusions
I mean your stance on both lynches so far has either been wrong town or scum motivated so I'm not sure what your point is
Like, the SoaS and TD deaths make sense because I searched for a reason that they would make sense.
Your reasoning for SoaS relies on a traitor theory that you can't even find any crumbs from Elbirn to support
You have no idea what is going through Chemist's head when he looks at my role because you don't know what my role is.
Have you even tried to put yourself in my shoes? I know it's hard as scum to do so but you act like my thoughts on why keeping you alive is a bad idea has no merit.
You type out a lot of words and construct a large post that is a web of assumptions you can't make, and I feel like you've been effectively unphased by a lot of different very valid counterarguments.
This is, ideally, a cooperative game. I think we're on the same team. I might want to meta-dive you in a bit because you are somehow legitimately concerning me with things I don't think should be in anyone's scumrange, due to how vehemently you are disagreeing with me on logic that doesn't stand.
If you're actually town then obviously we approach the game differently. I steered the wagon on elements and you veered off of it in a very sketchy manner. I know this is kind of an asshole thing to say since you've already acknowledged all of this but that doesn't make it any less true.it's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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okayIn post 2151, TemporalLich wrote:
noIn post 2150, eth0s wrote:
did you even read my jjh&mastina caseIn post 2148, TemporalLich wrote:I'm not sure how mastina is scum other than "mastina is possibly a deepwolf so we have to be paranoid"
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Read it and tell me your thoughts or else I am seeing this through.
VOTE: elements
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Reasoning that you would shoot down with hindsight? I literally gave the town a fucking alternative to deal with the situation where we statistically SHOULD HAVE HAD AN ADVANTAGE regardless of whether korina was scum or town.In post 2033, jjh927 wrote:It's the consistency of it all that explains everything, tbh
You could have been scum because you somehow ended up on the right side of the Korina lynch with reasoning that I would still shoot down with hindsight, and you could feasibly have been scum bussing elements though that's less likely, but you're not because the reason we ended up on opposite sides there is that our playstyles are extremely different, and that has been consistently visible. And I don't think anyone could fake that kind of thing throughout the whole of a game
"our playstyles are extremely different, and that has been consistently visible. And I don't think anyone could fake that kind of thing throughout the whole of a game"
I don't even get how this implies that I'm town because if I have a truly different playstyle than you it wouldn't matter what my alignment is and I wouldn't have to fake anything. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you said it just looks like you're trying to appeal to my emotion or at the very least manipulate me with bad logicit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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What game?In post 2035, jjh927 wrote:Damn I think I found the game which explains why we went about the two lynches so differentlyit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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I honestly want to comment on this one but it's gonna start a whole stupid argument that I don't want to get into so how about someone else tells me what's wrong with this postIn post 2041, jjh927 wrote:The inventor is clearly not supposed to increase scum power or he wouldn't have given all his abilities to Chemistit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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would a copscetic block a bloodhound result too? if not then 2037 could actually bring forth an important discussion.In post 2043, jjh927 wrote:New line of inquiry:
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okay this actually looks like it could be a town responseIn post 2050, jjh927 wrote:It is infuriating me to do so because I am growing more confident that you're just being obtuse on purpose here, but I'm gonna try to actually engage with you hereit's a zero in my name (for PM purposes etc)-
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