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Not sure what ur trying to confirm but my post was RVS and a jab @ RCs play.In post 104, Keyser Söze wrote:I read JarJarDrinks' post in a different tone but I'll wait for him to confirm.-
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IDK, what tone did u read my post in?In post 111, Keyser Söze wrote:JarJar, does my tonal perception need to be reconfigured?
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Scummy postIn post 114, Rautherdir wrote:I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.
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Yup noticed this. Would have liked him to acknowledge what he was doing. Was kinda shady.In post 133, Keyser Söze wrote:Vifam puts the breaks on the mattblack train... was it going too fast for you?-
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good observation alsoIn post 137, Keyser Söze wrote:
Thanks for that meta defense - I probably wasn't going to dig up Transcend's town and scum games.In post 125, mattblackguy wrote:Pretty sure Transcend always does early TRs like that. It's NAI
The RVS wagon on you wasn't any fun. You didn't even blink! What a badass Didn't you at least want to warn us how close to L-1 you were? I would have raged - what if scum had a double voter?-
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Huh? The double voter doesn't have to be the hammerer. And even if he was, he wouldn't get autolynched the next day cause we wouldn't know that he was the double voter.In post 139, mattblackguy wrote:
Whaaat? If scum had a double voter, and they seriously hammered me there they would by lynched tomorrow. 1 townie for 1 scum is a good trade imo. The thought of scum having a double voter didn't even cross my mind because I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to do it this early into day 1.In post 137, Keyser Söze wrote:The RVS wagon on you wasn't any fun. You didn't even blink! What a badass Didn't you at least want to warn us how close to L-1 you were? I would have raged - what if scum had a double voter?-
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Don't like this. Sounds like Alisae wants to make sure the town knows he's not sheeping.In post 146, Alisae wrote:
Oh, you beat me to it.In post 129, Vifam wrote:
VOTE: RauthedirIn post 114, Rautherdir wrote:I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.
VOTE: Akarin
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still catching up but:
This is such a shitty post. Townread on obvtown. And a "they both can't be scum" read.In post 402, Vifam wrote:So far Keysar feels town
RC vs Gerry is such a shitfest they're probably not both scum on the same team, couldn't tell you which one is more likely to flip scum tho tbh-
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RC sandbags his town games so it's harder to catch him as scum.In post 294, gerryoat wrote:@Transcend i thought this Radiant Cowbells person was supposed to be good?
who lied to me. or are they just trolling rn?
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Is this ur first time playing w/ him? He's being downright pleasant this game.In post 399, Vifam wrote:RC is kind of annoying-
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Seems weird u'd make this post then:In post 416, Vifam wrote:
I like GerryIn post 412, Cooperative Sheep wrote:Why do you not want to lynch Gerry? He seems a perfectly fine lynch option.
Like why not just say you think it's TvT?In post 402, Vifam wrote:RC vs Gerry is such a shitfest they're probably not both scum on the same team, couldn't tell you which one is more likely to flip scum tho tbh-
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I didn't @ first either. That's what raised my eyebrow about Gerrys response. He immediately believed it and was just like "well ur reads are wrong".In post 427, Vifam wrote:I didn't really take RC's cop claim that seriously-
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It was there from RVS.In post 430, Rautherdir wrote:JarJar, could you also explain your vote on RC?-
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???In post 444, gerryoat wrote:@Jar can you explain why Nau is obvious town? I really dont see it rn
Only person I called obvtown was keysor. Rau is actually kinda scummy to me.-
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I was asked to join the wagon and 2 people I'm townreading are currently on him. Seemed like a fine place for a vote.In post 449, RadiantCowbells wrote:
AND YOU JUMPED ON A WAGON TO PUT IT AT L-2 ON SOMEONE WHO NO CASE HAS BEEN PROVIDED AGAINST. MAKES SENSE.In post 432, JarJarDrinks wrote:
I didn't @ first either. That's what raised my eyebrow about Gerrys response. He immediately believed it and was just like "well ur reads are wrong".In post 427, Vifam wrote:I didn't really take RC's cop claim that seriously
As for Gerry, there's 1 thing he did that I felt was scummy. Not everyone plays like you and deathtunnels the first person they scumread on day 1.-
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U mean the post from Rau I FOSed?gerryoat wrote:Ah okay, i dont really find that scummy at all. Jar what's scummy about that?
I already explained to him:In post 397, JarJarDrinks wrote:Grendel kinda hit on it in 157. It's very LAMIST. Like you're making sure the town knows that you're just doing what townies are supposed to do.-
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In post 444, gerryoat wrote:@Jar can you explain why Nau is obvious town? I really dont see it rnIn post 462, gerryoat wrote:Ah okay, i dont really find that scummy at all. Jar what's scummy about that?-
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U leaning in any direction on Rau?In post 481, gerryoat wrote:Yes, Jar. That's literally the game of Mafia. Discussing and arguing reads. I was asking what was scummy about it-
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Anything else Trans? You're much less involved in this game than in any other game I've seen u in.In post 485, Transcend wrote:Gerry is mighty scummy i admit-
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Kinda disagree w/ this. Claiming to be a noob is something that can be AI. I'm sure u've heard the term "playing the noob card" as a scum tactic?In post 499, Cooperative Sheep wrote:Sure! I noted people getting all excited to apply newb tells to him, while failing to note that a newb tell is alignment neutral. They would even say things like 'he's either newb town, or newb scum due to X' while Rauth was actively claiming to be newb - which is a bit like saying I have a sheep for an avatar. Sure, it's true - but it's of no benefit to figuring out my alignment, so why bother bringing it up? I was pointing out that people were doing IIoA because they were saying things tht might look like scumhunting - but which are assuredly not.
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What do you mean by "already" ? Like you suspected him before RC started to push him? If so, what were u suspicious about?In post 514, Grendel wrote:I'm probably voting Gerry since I already had a mild suspicion on his slot.-
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This isn't really true.In post 516, Grendel wrote:Not to mention that there has been zero resistance to my wagon.-
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The thing about Rauth and vifam not mentioning the cop claim @ all in their accessment of RC v Gerry was a great point that nobody else had thought to bring up.In post 530, Grendel wrote:Enlighten me behind the genius of Coopsheep's opening.
I also liked him calling out how Vifam said he didn't want to lynch gerry. Vif has since said he wasn't scumreading gerry but I also didn't read it that way.
Rest of his post had a bunch of reads I mostly agreed w/.
I think the only thing I'm not on the same page w/ coopsheep is that I lean scum on Rauth.-
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Scum can make good points.In post 537, Vifam wrote:Yeah but like Grendal said on this page it's weird how he points out Grendal made a good point about Rau, but goes on to vote him without a word-
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I didn't "only jump on him to appeal" to anyone. The combination of the following is why I voted for him:In post 559, mattblackguy wrote:So you didn't jump on the Grendel wagon because you were scumreading him? You only jumped on to appeal to the two people you were townreading? I don't see how this is coming from a town mindset at all.
- coopsheep asked me to. Since I townread him, I figured he had reason he wanted pressure on the slot.
- Keyser (who is also a townread) also was voting for Grendel. So 2 of my townreads see something scummy there.
- I checked the votecount and there was a decent wagon forming on him. Which means it would be some good pressure. Wagons like that are great for seeing how people react to it.
- I read his ISO and there was nothing in it that looked like it couldn't come from scum.-
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I pointed out his post was scummy. That doesn't mean I automatically vote him. I pointed out other scummy posts as well.In post 599, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
No, your reply is the actually definition of scummy. Where's your vote?In post 390, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Scummy postIn post 114, Rautherdir wrote:I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.
VOTE: Akarin
What else can I really say about that post? I explained to him why I thought it was scummy.Where are the attempts to dig?
Sure I care.Do you not care why he thinks Gerry is scum and RC is town?-
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Probably null. Was scumleaning earlier but his recent barrage of posts seemed ok.In post 613, Keyser Söze wrote:@JarJar - what's your read on mattblackguy?-
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Not as scummy as Gerry/Rauth/YouIn post 651, Vifam wrote:@JarJar whats your read on Grendal now-
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GTFO w/ that shit. Town aint fakeclaiming cop cause a real cop could counter and get him mislynched AND reveal the actual cop.
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Dude it was a claim. People acknowledged it as a claim. He never retracted it. If he's town he HAS to know how bad it is.In post 717, Vifam wrote:RC's claim was never that serious
not to mention: HE'S STILL CLAIMING COP TODAY.
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Yeah. Ur scum and making shit up to not get lynched.In post 725, RadiantCowbells wrote:have you figured it out yet?
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This is all true. RC is still the lynch today.In post 733, mattblackguy wrote:Vifam's hammer doesn't make any sense from a townie's perspective. Vifam said he didn't think Gerry was scum, and that he didn't want to lynch Gerry because "I like him". Doesn't make sense to hammer him before he even gets a chance to claim then.-
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I can show you RC fakeclaiming cop as scum in other games.In post 739, Cooperative Sheep wrote:Can you show me Vifam being brazen scum in other games? Because if you can't, then I don't see the value of the case.
I think they suck.In post 739, Cooperative Sheep wrote:What's your take on Transcend's contributions to the game thus far?-
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That makes' no sense. It's not if they try to kill youIn post 752, RadiantCowbells wrote:Because I think that getting you to calm the fuck down and leave me alone is more valuable than the slim chance that scum try to nightkill me twice.twice.
If you're town and keep up the "some type of cop" charade and you don't get lynched, then there's a pretty good chance you bait a kill. Like that's supposedly the whole purpose of your fakeclaim in the first place. Getting me to "calm the fuck down" is a ridiculous reason.-
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I don't know how you can think getting "town on the same page" is more valuable than potentially wasting a nightkill. Like you'd have to have a pretty strong townread on me to even consider it. And even if u do, it's still probably not worth it.In post 769, RadiantCowbells wrote:I mean there's still value in wasting a nightkill. But if JJD is going to flip his shit at me I might as well come clean and try to get town on the same page.-
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In post 808, Keyser Söze wrote:There are 3 players I will NOT be voting today:
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U were who I was counting on key.-
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It's not pointless. I'm putting in on record that I found a post scummy. That's like normal mafia play.In post 815, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
Well my thing is, why? Just saying it's scummy without backing it up is pointless and arguably will help him in the long run if he's scum. He'll know that whatever he did, said, or how he said something isn't ok and possibly will be able to adjust and blend in better.In post 607, JarJarDrinks wrote:
I pointed out his post was scummy. That doesn't mean I automatically vote him. I pointed out other scummy posts as well.In post 599, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
No, your reply is the actually definition of scummy. Where's your vote?In post 390, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Scummy postIn post 114, Rautherdir wrote:I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.
VOTE: Akarin
What else can I really say about that post? I explained to him why I thought it was scummy.Where are the attempts to dig?
Sure I care.Do you not care why he thinks Gerry is scum and RC is town?
I really don't like last part of this reply. Does it sound sarcastic to anyone else?
And it's not sarcasm. I'm saying I care but didn't feel the need to post about it.-
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WTF how can you be so sure of Matt AND RC??In post 821, Transcend wrote:Matt's a mislynch.
Like I might agree that matt is a mislynch. But that's cause I scumread RC.
Like @ least RC is voting for matt. Cause if RC actualy is town, it make's complete sense that he's scumreading Matt.
Cause like look @ this first post of the day from Matt:
It doesn't really make sense that his first reaction to Gerrys flip is that RC was reaction testing. Like shouldn't he have considered that RC was scum that got caught fakeclaiming? Especially considering that he soon starting pushing RC-scum soon after.In post 683, mattblackguy wrote:VOTE: Vifam
RC, why didn't you reveal it was just a reaction test, and you weren't actually the cop yesterday?
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I mean I don't think it's impossible for you both to be town. I just think it's ridiculous that transcend can rule BOTH of you out as scum.In post 965, RadiantCowbells wrote:Question JJD: if you can conceive of either of our slots being town and the either scum, then why can't you conceive of both of our slots being town?
Like if either one of our interactions could have been TvS there's no reason why they couldn't have both been and the whole situation being TvT.-
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Here's another pretty big point I made:In post 866, Cooperative Sheep wrote:I don't think it's fair to say that people are ignoring him. Two of his points are;
1. RC fake claims cop as scum.
2. RC's "fake" claim is countered by the Gerry flip.
I know I and at least one other person addressed #2 noting that it wasn't a direct counter claim in any way.
I know at least one person addressed #1 noting it is within RC's town meta to fakeclaim cop just as much as within his scum meta - making the play maybe bad, but not a good alignment tell.
What other points of JarJar's do you find good that people are ignoring?
What about the above equates to ignoring?
I'll agree that people aren't agreeing with him - is that what you meant to say? If so, what about his concerns do you find valid in the face of the counter arguments offered against it?
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ANd I agree that people are mostly disagreeing, not ignoring.-
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Not sure I've played in any games w/ you (town or scum) where you didn't day 1 deathtunnel.In post 878, RadiantCowbells wrote:FTR the day 1 deathtunnel was because I was trying to act like investigative RC who got outed and expected to die and needed to lynch his target at all costs.
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