Mini 1875: Pine's Death Trap Post Game - Town win!

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VOTE: Rauth

[RadiantCowbells]

[Vifam]

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[JarJarDrinks]

I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.

VOTE: Akarin

Scummy post

No, your reply is the actually definition of scummy. Where's your vote?

I pointed out his post was scummy. That doesn't mean I automatically vote him. I pointed out other scummy posts as well.

Where are the attempts to dig?

What else can I really say about that post? I explained to him why I thought it was scummy.

Do you not care why he thinks Gerry is scum and RC is town?

Sure I care.

Well my thing is, why? Just saying it's scummy without backing it up is pointless and arguably will help him in the long run if he's scum. He'll know that whatever he did, said, or how he said something isn't ok and possibly will be able to adjust and blend in better.

I really don't like last part of this reply. Does it sound sarcastic to anyone else?

It's not pointless. I'm putting in on record that I found a post scummy. That's like normal mafia play.

And it's not sarcasm. I'm saying I care but didn't feel the need to post about it.

[RadiantCowbells]

I like this.

There's a really slick tell on Rautherdir that if he flips scum I am near 100% on who one of his partners is.

[Vifam]

Who do you think it will be

[RadiantCowbells]

I would rather not say.

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Would still lynch keyser but I'm prob the only one.

His page 33 really looks like faux analysis lol

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I have no idea what is happening but I guess it's RVS so I'll just vote someone.

VOTE: Akarin

Scummy post

No, your reply is the actually definition of scummy. Where's your vote?

I pointed out his post was scummy. That doesn't mean I automatically vote him. I pointed out other scummy posts as well.

Where are the attempts to dig?

What else can I really say about that post? I explained to him why I thought it was scummy.

Do you not care why he thinks Gerry is scum and RC is town?

Sure I care.

Well my thing is, why? Just saying it's scummy without backing it up is pointless and arguably will help him in the long run if he's scum. He'll know that whatever he did, said, or how he said something isn't ok and possibly will be able to adjust and blend in better.

I really don't like last part of this reply. Does it sound sarcastic to anyone else?

It's not pointless. I'm putting in on record that I found a post scummy. That's like normal mafia play.

And it's not sarcasm. I'm saying I care but didn't feel the need to post about it.

Why did you felt the need to put it on record?

[RadiantCowbells]

I want to put it on record that I think that Annie is adorable.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Who's Annie?

[Vifam]

Would still lynch keyser but I'm prob the only one.

His page 33 really looks like faux analysis lol

It's dramatic to me I really wouldn't call ti fake

[RadiantCowbells]

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[JarJarDrinks]

Matt's a mislynch.

WTF how can you be so sure of Matt AND RC??

Like I might agree that matt is a mislynch. But that's cause I scumread RC.

Like @ least RC is voting for matt. Cause if RC actualy is town, it make's complete sense that he's scumreading Matt.

Cause like look @ this first post of the day from Matt:

VOTE: Vifam

RC, why didn't you reveal it was just a reaction test, and you weren't actually the cop yesterday?

It doesn't really make sense that his first reaction to Gerrys flip is that RC was reaction testing. Like shouldn't he have considered that RC was scum that got caught fakeclaiming? Especially considering that he soon starting pushing RC-scum soon after.

RC scum still makes more sense. But Town RC/Town Matt makes no sense.

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah. one of many things I don't like from his slot.

But I want to sell my vote out to a lot of different wagons today because I'm not ready to settle down

[RadiantCowbells]

Question JJD: if you can conceive of either of our slots being town and the either scum, then why can't you conceive of both of our slots being town?

Like if either one of our interactions could have been TvS there's no reason why they couldn't have both been and the whole situation being TvT.

[JarJarDrinks]

Question JJD: if you can conceive of either of our slots being town and the either scum, then why can't you conceive of both of our slots being town?

Like if either one of our interactions could have been TvS there's no reason why they couldn't have both been and the whole situation being TvT.

I mean I don't think it's impossible for you both to be town. I just think it's ridiculous that transcend can rule BOTH of you out as scum.

[Rautherdir]

It doesn't really make sense because how is Rauth thinking Gerry vs RC is SvT at that point in the game scummy? A few other players did and she doesn't get on anyone else for it.

It's not scummy to think that there may be scum in our 1v1. What is scummy is sitting there being yeah there's definitely a scum in there but I don't really have any coherent thoughts about who it is but hey look at that juicy 1v1 there's bound to be some scum in there let's lynch them.

AFAIR no one else was that vague. A ton of people said 'Hey I think that's TvS and that Gerry is scum here', a few people said it's TvT, but Rautherdir was the only one who was totally blase and just like YEAH THERE'S SCUM IN THAT JUICY 1v1 RIPE FOR THE MISLYNCH PICKINGS.

I'm pretty sure I made it clear that I scumread Gerry and that I was waiting for Akarin to get caught up. As for why I ignored Matt's wagon... I'm focused elsewhere currently.

And Grendel, last game I ended up basically being confirmed town day 2. I was also making a complex move to try and catch scum off guard which required me to keep active.

[JarJarDrinks]

also I'm not ruling out scum/scum. It's possible that first post was to try to get heat off you and then when he saw that people weren't convinced by my case, he decided he could bus you w/ little risk of you getting wagoned.

[RadiantCowbells]

That's called distancing. Bussing requires you to seriously intend to lynch the person.

[Vifam]

Yeah im really feeling Rauth is town

[JarJarDrinks]

I don't think it's fair to say that people are ignoring him. Two of his points are;

1. RC fake claims cop as scum.
2. RC's "fake" claim is countered by the Gerry flip.

I know I and at least one other person addressed #2 noting that it wasn't a direct counter claim in any way.
I know at least one person addressed #1 noting it is within RC's town meta to fakeclaim cop just as much as within his scum meta - making the play maybe bad, but not a good alignment tell.

What other points of JarJar's do you find good that people are ignoring?
What about the above equates to ignoring?
I'll agree that people aren't agreeing with him - is that what you meant to say? If so, what about his concerns do you find valid in the face of the counter arguments offered against it?

Here's another pretty big point I made:

Spoiler:

Not to mention: HE HAS ONE SINGLE VOTE ON HIM RIGHT NOW.

If he was truly trying to bait a night kill, WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE CLAIM BP RIGHT NOW?

seriously, someone explain that to me.

Because I think that getting you to calm the fuck down and leave me alone is more valuable than the slim chance that scum try to nightkill me twice.

That makes' no sense. It's not if they try to kill you

twice

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If you're town and keep up the "some type of cop" charade and you don't get lynched, then there's a pretty good chance you bait a kill. Like that's supposedly the whole purpose of your fakeclaim in the first place. Getting me to "calm the fuck down" is a ridiculous reason.

ANd I agree that people are mostly disagreeing, not ignoring.

[RadiantCowbells]

JJD I am town please just stop.

[JarJarDrinks]

FTR the day 1 deathtunnel was because I was trying to act like investigative RC who got outed and expected to die and needed to lynch his target at all costs.

Not sure I've played in any games w/ you (town or scum) where you didn't day 1 deathtunnel.

[JarJarDrinks]

JJD I am town please just stop.

No.

I'm not spamming. Coopsheep listed the reasons I'm scumreading you and he left an important one out.