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Hey the Gamma wagon sucks
VOTE: mykonian
Nah i dont know you bud but nice to meetcha, sorry youre scum
For those who dont get it what mykonian is doing is spinning Gammas actions as scummy when its just Gamma seeing something he agrees with and going w it, which is a rly standard newb thing and not even a newb thing its a thing a certian kind of person just tends to do in mafia
And its ignorng what mykonian noted himself namely Gamma being relatively new
Calling the post where he says who he knows bc mykonian did it scum is LOLReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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Lol are u bein srs because jumping on a small wagon on someone who called an innocent post of yours scummy is exactly what town should do on page fuckin 2 :PIn post 37, MTD wrote:First off: I do not think knowing who already knows who, and more specifically, who has already played with who, is entirely useless info.
That said, the way gamma jumped on that wagon was ridiculous.
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Im glad u made sure to explain and repeat yourself cause otherwise this would have looked rly scummyIn post 46, mykonian wrote:
actually, given that after 2 pages RK has gamma's personality pegged and has an explanation for his actions, this smells like buddying. So with that, and on top of that the apology, I feel better here:In post 42, Road Kamelot wrote:For those who dont get it what mykonian is doing is spinning Gammas actions as scummy when its just Gamma seeing something he agrees with and going w it, which is a rly standard newb thing and not even a newb thing its a thing a certian kind of person just tends to do in mafia
And its ignorng what mykonian noted himself namely Gamma being relatively new
vote Kamelot
Pedit Errant wtf dude I trusted you :(
Are you rly going w the "scum dont feel guilty" tell guy on thisReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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But its cool to join a wagon on a player because of an NAI postIn post 69, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
If someone is town and they get called scummy for a NAI post I feel like it's in bad form to just jump on a wagon forming against the player that called you out. It looks defensive to me. It's natural to be defensive though so maybe he's just behaving normally.In post 43, Road Kamelot wrote:Lol are u bein srs because jumping on a small wagon on someone who called an innocent post of yours scummy is exactly what town should do on page fuckin 2 :P
That being said, it's my understanding that wagons need to form to get people talking and it can only be a good thing that they're getting going. Everyone seems null still
You joined the Gamma wagon but didnt agree with the case??? lol
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So then why was it scummy for Gamma to join the mykonian wagon in your opinionIn post 78, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:I joined the gamma wagon because a wagon has to form to move the game somewhere. I'm being misstepped right now. Will explain once I'm off phone in a few minutes
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Whats the differenceIn post 80, MTD wrote:He did not say it was, was it? He said it was bad form.
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"can mean"In post 84, MTD wrote:bad form can mean bad town play which is not the same as scummy play.
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If it was bull Kyouko would have said my intepretation was wrong and we go from thereIn post 86, MTD wrote:because your question had the baseline that he said it was scummy which is bullshit.
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???????
I asked a question and you hadnt answered yet
Also MTDs last post was that he mightve been wrong and was going to bed
87 wasnt me saying my interpretation would have been refuted by you ALREADY if it were bull
i was saying that once you got back and could answer you would have told me if that was what you meant or not, but that interaction couldnt rly happen bc MTD decided to answer for you and render the point mootReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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VOTE: MTD
Youre probs town w that miscommunication/misuse of the term misrepresentation
Bc for one scum dont normally misrep that a player said something that is easily proved false by a quick quote and expect to build a wagon off of that blatant lie
More often is misinterpretation + wanting a dialogue, the latter of which i got, from you and MTD
Do you see the value is pressing for info?
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EBWOP the original version doesnt read how i meantIn post 91, Road Kamelot wrote:VOTE: MTD
Youre probs town w that miscommunication/misuse of the term misrepresentation
You should think about the fact that
for one scum dont normally misrep that a player said something that is easily proved false by a quick quote and expect to build a wagon off of that blatant lie
More often is misinterpretation + wanting a dialogue, the latter of which i got, from you and MTD
Do you see the value is pressing for info?
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Not a reaction test, I was pushing you bc i saw scum motiveIn post 94, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:It still looks to me like MTD picked up on his own that he initially misread the post and dropped it. I don't like that you used what I felt were scum tactics to reaction test me and then later claim that it's okay to use such tactics because they need to be used to get info (a reaction).I think he defended me because he thought that it should have been clear upon closer investigation that my 69 was not what people had been seeing it as.
And do you see the contradiction in MTD scumreading you but being more concerned with a lexical difference
I'm not sure where the question that has the lexical difference of yours to me is located. If I knew which question I may be able to see the contradiction, but this is only my second game of forum mafia so I may have missed it.
I only unvoted bc your reaction was obvtown
Check bolded: MTD didnt unvote you at any point or say you were town, so why did he defend you here? My guess is he knew you were town
the lexical difference refers to how i read bad form as a way of calling gamma scummy and asked abt it
MTD then tried to clarify
I said i didnt see the difference and MTD clarified, but this time called my question bullshit
Then when i pressed further he said he might he wrong and would reevaluate
Lexical difference meaning i read bad form as a negative ie scummy identifier and while i see how it could be construed differently i dont like how MTD went abt it or the weird whiteknighting of a slot he is supposedly scumreading and voting
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Not answeredIn post 52, Road Kamelot wrote:mykonian why buddying and not chainsaw
When someone rushes to defend my scumread i dont normally respond by townreading the scumread
So he's town nowIn post 107, mykonian wrote:aww man, you keep trying to do what the cool kids do :(
stop it, you are making me itch to dislike you.
Gamma/mykonian scum calling it
MTD is ok I guess
Stuck to his guns on kyouko after all which tbh i wasnt sure if i expected
Still not sure if I believe youre actually scumreading him w how youre talkin to him but eh your logic is fine
Meanwhile
VOTE: mykonian
107 is all u need
Josh and backwards jordan townReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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5 points for anyone who can guess whyIn post 115, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why do you say me/mylo scumReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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I can see gerry was a mistype who did you mean in the first paragraphIn post 116, Joshz wrote:Do we know the setup?
If gamma is scum gerry looks a lot worse; on one hand he was willing to engage me and defend someone for no reason which isn't inherently scummy but his logic is awful so it might be bad town play as opposed to scum play
I actually considered that post from mykonian (107) a bitscummy on my own but didn't bother posting because I wasn't strong about it. The game needa to progress more for actual progression so the people who've only posted a bit need to get in the game, and that's why I want to pressure the one dude that hasn't posted period. Rem old also use more content but it's only 24 hours in so for now it's not a big deal
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MmkIn post 123, Joshz wrote:Not a typo. It's doubtful scum gamma would defend an idler for no reason that wasn't also scum. It's NAI for now but if gamma does flip scum then gerry looks much worse in my eyes. We can push people here all we want but ultimately with people not posting period were never going to figure things out. Gerry hasn't posted a single time so I just want him to start participating, over a 24 hour period you should have time to pop in and say hi at the beginning of the game at the absolute least. I don't care if he's scum, hes as useful to town as scum if he doesn't participate in discussion. I also know it hasn't been /that/ long and there's plenty of time left in day 1 for him to be active.
Then push someone whos here until gerrys total absence is actually at a suspicious point
Theres plenty of content
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Didnt i remember you having a reputation for being mislynched newbtown earlier onIn post 132, Gamma Emerald wrote:Whatever you're obviously new
Are you normally this dismissive
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K this is weirdIn post 267, mykonian wrote:1. I posted about already, someone else also asked a clarification of the vote, must be a page and a bit later. In short, buddying as a choice of tell is in my estimation of RK as a player, how experienced she is, etc. It makes sense from someone like her to jump in the breach for an attacked player slightly too eagerly.
You know im an alt and thats it, where are you even getting the stance to say "someone like her"
Errant is literally the only player in this game who knows my old acct, you dont know my experience level or about how i play :PReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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HmIn post 344, mykonian wrote:
3 evenings of sitechat and your posts in this game.In post 341, Road Kamelot wrote:You know im an alt and thats it, where are you even getting the stance to say "someone like her"
So youve learned my mafia behaviour from sitechat. Fascinating
OH and youve realized im the type of player who would jump in to buddy a wagoned townie bc in this game you came to the conclusion that i was jumping in to buddy a wagoned townie
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Everything I say has to be sarcasmIn post 352, mykonian wrote:
Gosh, can't you say it straight, does it have to be sarcasm?In post 350, Road Kamelot wrote:So youve learned my mafia behaviour from sitechat. Fascinating
OH and youve realized im the type of player who would jump in to buddy a wagoned townie bc in this game you came to the conclusion that i was jumping in to buddy a wagoned townie
Circular logic bro
No, you jumped to defend someone. I get to try to read you why you did that with the intensity you did it with. And I think you are scum for it, while gamma comes out as town. I am not quite sure how you try to twist that logic into a circle, but it looks ugly.
You keep using shit like my experience level or how you think I would do something as reasons for your stances but theyre all hella weak bc you literally have zero meta. Youve invented this 'experienced player' to compare to but this person doesnt exist
And when i asked you said 'this game' and 'sitechat' which is lol bc id love to know what you learned about me from sitechat
Saying "it makes sense from someone like her" as a defense for why youd think something is just bad
And you say that a more experienced player wouldnt make a sloppy and blatant attempt to defend their buddy like i did, so gamma is more likely town, but apparently im not good ENOUGH to avoid making the same kinds of 'overeager' plays as scum when trying to buddy town
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@Transcend - had him as kinda town bc i like i said hes got that awkward low hanging fruit air abt him
But the real meat of it was that the reasons for the votes on him sucked objectively, like MTDs vote and mykonians whole shtick
there was nothing AI abt what Gamma did and his vote on mykonian for his own bad post just made sense
But his behaviour after that, i started to dislike. Didnt like his tone, his attitude, 'i was defending myself just fine', or the way he followed mykonian despite him being the one to start the dumb Gamma wagon
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Ok wait no i had to check
I hated the Gamma vote, the kyouko vote was fine but the way he talked to me abt my questioning after voting kyouko i didnt like and his explanation was just ok
I also dont hae reads on a lot of the playerlist so i gotta fix thatReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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Errant i dont like u voting Jordan after that one post esp after saying gamma is good pressure and that mykonian isnt a gr8 wagon
What are you seeing that im not seeing bc jordan looks plenty town
Pedit MTD gives me the jeebies kraska
kyouko is town bc of their response to my vote
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Why are you trusting me on transcend town but disagreeing w literally every other one of my reads????In post 601, MTD wrote:Ok, i'll trust rk on transcend town.
I believe myko is town.
i want to lynch ssbm or josh at the moment, but i have only skimmed nadroj so far, i'll get back to that later today
Again why are you trusting me when my myko vote is so badIn post 602, MTD wrote:I on the other hand can't get over how bad the votes
onmyko were.
very much looks like a scum driven wagon.Reflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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<3In post 730, Errantparabola wrote:make that three- road kamelot is, of course, awesome, but considering she signed up after i did, her presence in the game did not influence my decision
I received the prod and will be making that content post as soon as i can
Probs tonight? Ive been keeping up w the thread and i have to say im not rly into the jordan wagon
Nothing mykonian has done has changed my mind either. But i need to reread w a critical and attentive eye so look forwardReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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Hey im sick and lazy so
To whom it may concern (it may concern whoever asked why kyouko is town fmpov), just ISO me and see our spat earlier in the game.
So unvote and lets get on a good ol wagon
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Heya guys. No replacement needed Penguin bc Im here, sorry.
Transcend, i havent read, Gamma was an earlier scumread and certainly a better lynch than kyouko bc kyouko is town. id only lynch her if it was needed to end the day
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Whoever is saying i didnt interact w maria isnt thinking critically or is scum
i didnt interact with anyone after a certain point
VOTE: MTD
mykonian is fine too
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Errant why are you townreading me so strongly to begin with
I mean yeah the pushes are shit bc im mislynch bait up the wazoo but scumreading me is kinda normal at this point
Pedit bc MTD is a scumread and Gamma was a "kyouko is fuckin town" vote on kyoukos counterwagon
if mykonian isnt scum w maria its because im missing an association that apparently yall saw
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Mmk
Team pick is... well ill ISO myk and maria and see if they actually couldnt be teammates
Beyond that i dunno besides MTD
Like im at you-town, Transcend town, kraska, josh, etc.
Apparently both me and Errant are scum for not giving a shit abt Maria. i literally had nothing to say to her while i was playing and she never pinged meReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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Okay i dunno where yall are getting all of this mykonian cant be scum w so and so but i have to assume its from a part of the game i didnt read
Pedit Idk maybe i misinterpreted gamma and myks comments on the matter
Transcend dude that was giga asking if that was my team pick calm yourselfReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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No way i wanna dismiss this as townIn post 1350, mykonian wrote:In all fairness I have soft defended Maria for the entire game, saying "blind spot scum" and never doing a thing about it could be seen as a distancing tactic, depends a bit on what person you think I am. I'd say that's a bit beyond ballsy and I can do better than that, but one could judge that differently (and I suspect MTD knows me best out of all people here). Maria towards me would be more than distancing, I feel, but for good reasons I didn't include that in my post: that's for you to judge.
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<3In post 1361, Transcend wrote:@Road be sure to tell me when the rope is too tight when u get lynched
then I'll make it even tighter u scum fuck
Why is that strangeIn post 1366, kraska77 wrote:Btw...about ep never directly addressing Maria
They never talked to me either. Just something I noted and found a little strange
Avoiding interaction w a scumbuddy is one thing but whats scummy abt avoiding interaction w a random townie
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OhIn post 1375, kraska77 wrote:
It's not is what I'm saying. Just pointing out that Maria's not the only one they completely ignoredIn post 1372, Road Kamelot wrote:Why is that strange
Avoiding interaction w a scumbuddy is one thing but whats scummy abt avoiding interaction w a random townie
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Couldnt be there for the kyouko wagon what does that meanIn post 1377, mykonian wrote:And then we get to you vs EP, and you hardcore defended gamma, you come into this day continuing as if there wasn't a scum killed at night, just the leading wagons of yesterday. Then there's that you couldn't be there for the SSBM wagon but the moment the opportunity was there to get another claim, you jumped on the gamma wagon.
idk Road, saying it's "just" this or that we suspect you for, it's a bit too simple. You'll have to dismiss a few more arguments against you.
I didnt want her lynched so i went for the counterwagon
I hardcore defended gamma for like three pages after your shitty push thats it
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If youre looking for scum who wanted another claim then look for people who would have voted/voted kyouko and then went to gammaIn post 1379, mykonian wrote:there's 2 whole people who went for gamma after the claim. And scum would just love to have that opportunity.
Would you say you are townier than Josh then?
Youve invented a universe where scum really wanted another claim to the point that theyd try to derail a mislynch on town in order to get that claim
its dumb
and Man idfk what kind of question is that?Reflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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Youre bad at tonereading bc im not in a bad moodIn post 1384, mykonian wrote:
Rather like to call this town on meta today. There's lower hanging fruit we could have a look at.In post 1381, kraska77 wrote:I think people are not paying attention to Mtd too.
Also please don't be thrown off by RK's petulance. She's not actually arguing, she's dismissing every point against her as just being useless and dumb, throwing in some annoyance to make it stick. Just look at her today, either she had a very bad day at work on thanksgiving, or something else is going on.Reflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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This basicallyIn post 1381, kraska77 wrote:I'm not really feeling a scum kamelot here >.>
I think people are not paying attention to Mtd too. The only effort mtd seems to have made this game was defending myko early. After that they just kind of stagnated with that kyouko vote. Never really pushing a lynch there is fighting a lynch elsewhere. Kind of get the feeling this is coasting scum
Dismissing MTD on meta is dumb bc when was the last time shaky meta caught scum proper
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So you followed my request to find scum that was willing to vote kyouko but stayed w GammaIn post 1383, mykonian wrote:"If youre looking for scum who wanted another claim then look for people who would have voted/voted kyouko and then went to gamma"
One. Maria threatened the hammer but stayed on gamma.
except i dont follow that pattern for scum bc i didnt want kyouko lynched
sounds like youre describing what youd do as scum and attributing it to an entire team"Youve invented a universe where scum really wanted another claim to the point that theyd try to derail a mislynch on town in order to get that claim"
Both wagons were on town though, weren't they? No risk involved, not as if town was going to figure out a flash wagon on you. Might as well get that edge and figure out what gamma is, maybe even get the lynch away from "just" a VT.Reflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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If you dont wanna waste your time then i suggest starting to think w the assumption im townIn post 1458, Transcend wrote:Regardless:
Road's play this game is an inconsistent mess on top of some forced lines and is kinda lacking. I think we're both scum reading her and heavily expect a scum flip.
If she flips town i might stay home tonight as my reads right now are currently based on Road!scum.
Transcend is 100% town and ive been playing like shit and entirely understand why theres a wagon here
i still dislike mykonian but w/e at this point lol
What im wondering about is anyone townreading me and why. tho im p satisfied w gigas townread there i guess
I could see Errant scum?
Transcend youre probs wrong abt my main bc I never played w you on itReflect on yourself in the heat of passion to reveal what the cold eye of logic sees not.-
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