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Hello everyone! Good luck to all the players.

VOTE: Drone

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Greetings! Just getting back from school. Catching up now.

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Hold on. You voted Naomi basically randomly. Then you switched to Copper for something you thought was slightly scummy. I assume you now believe it's NAI, otherwise you wouldn't switch your vote. If neither Naomi nor Copper have done anything alignment indicative, why switch back to Naomi?

Why didn't you answer this Misa? I still don't know why you switched to Naomi from Copper.

Anyways I feel like misatange is scum by ignoring thinkbig who voted drone and voted for someone else who did essentially the same.
VOTE: Misatange

Why does this make her scum? i.e. why would scum be more likely to do this than town?

Thanks. Agree, was very awkward.

Creeps, do you have a particular reason you didn't participate in RVS?

I too much hands are pointed everywhere.

I need a Creeps translator again.

"Too much fingers to point. Not enough answers"
And I am suggesting maf brothers.

Why would scum!Misa, knowing that her scum buddy voted an unconfirmed, cast suspicion on someone else who did the same?

As for RVS, it seems like random voting is what generates the material that leads to answers. Saying 'there are too many people voting and too many to vote' isn't a reason not to participate in RVS.

In all honesty I ignore threads when they are in RvS. And besides it never ends well when I do vote. If no one noticed that would have went well for ignoring thinkbig.

During RVS, I randomly voted for Drone, mainly because I have played with him (albeit briefly) before and not because he was unconfirmed.

Voting for unconfirmed players is a decent strategy, if only to build pressure and ensure that they confirm and join the game.

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PS: The quoted text in my post (number 95) was a mistake. Ignore that.

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I have a major FOS on Creeps and also on Misa. However, I don't want to put creeps at L-1, especially since Drone has yet to confirm his role.

Let's shake things up a bit...

VOTE: Misa

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I have a major FOS on Creeps and also on Misa. However, I don't want to put creeps at L-1, especially since Drone has yet to confirm his role.

Let's shake things up a bit...

VOTE: Misa

Why, and how is this shaking things up?

The current wagon seems to be mainly focusing on creeps. I feel uncomfortable, at this time, putting him at L-1.

Also, Creeps is voting Misa. Does that change your reads?

No. Both of these players are scummy IMO, though not sure how likely it is for them to both be scum.

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Just got back from Temple. Catching up now.

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IT'S RVS IT'S USED FOR PRESSURE AND IT'S USED TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO POST AND ALSO TO THINK THEIR REASONING OUT BEFORE THEY POST AND TO PROMPT POSTS LIKE THIS 62. IT'S LITERALLY THE ONLY STAGE IN THE GAME WHERE OMGUSES AND "I VOTE HIM BECAUSE HE SMELLS BAD" VOTES ARE OKAY.

WHAT

THE

FUCK

CREEPS

YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS.

This feels fake and very contrived.

Btw I disagree with you. I think most scum would be afraid to say they don't have reads.

Why do I feel this has scum intent?

Man I was scared of posting for a long time

Why were you afraid of posting?

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In regards to my post above, I was attempting to put the first quote and my reply in a spoiler tag. Not sure how that happened. My apologies.

Fixed. - Mod

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Thank you @mod, for fixing my post.

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ThinkBig, why are you voting for Misa? I asked you this way before, please answer.

UNVOTE: Creeps
VOTE: Copper

You're voting Creeps but you think Creeps is lynchbaity and will unvote if Creeps gets to L-1? How is your vote even accomplishing anything then?

One of my main reasons for voting for Misa is for post number 101. It feels contrived and forced. Post number 77 also does not sit well with me. Although I understand that we do have a few ML's, we should try our best to avoid it. Each ML gets us closer to MyLo/LyLo. She seems to be downplaying ML's.

Why did you change your vote from creeps to copper?

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My other reason for voting Misa over creeps was so he wouldn't be at L-2 and L-1 so early in the DP.

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Why did you change your vote from creeps to copper?

Don't feel like answering this.

Why not?

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My other reason for voting Misa over creeps was so he wouldn't be at L-2 and L-1 so early in the DP.

And as I said, this is not a reason to vote someone. Why not put Creeps at L-1 to see what Copper does?

As I said, I felt it was too early in the DP. I'd hate for scum, or someone to come in and quick-hammer - whether on purpose or by mistake.

Why did you change your vote from creeps to copper?

Don't feel like answering this.

Why not?

I already did. Partially. But what I said is good enough.

Reference post?

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As I said, I felt it was too early in the DP. I'd hate for scum, or someone to come in and quick-hammer - whether on purpose or by mistake

Are you normally this cautious?

I'm relatively new to the game. I made that mistake once and it only hurt me in the next DP.

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VOTE: Cooper

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BTW @TB: I think there's some misunderstanding here -- Obviously I want the most optimal ending of this game by lynching three of the scum in a row and have the game end by Day 3. I also understand that's a very idealistic and ignorant of me if I really want that to happen in this game. If town is scummy, I understand the importance of wagon analysis/reasons for voting someone and therefore leading to an actual proper scum lynch.

Also I really want HS to answer Twoface's 195.

Thank you for clarifying. Sorry for misunderstanding.

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TB can I see a preliminary readslist? I can explain why I want one from you specifically but I'd rather see it first.

Sure.

Town Reads

1. MortFeld
2. Lil Uzi Vert
3. Naomi-Tan

Scum Reads

1. Copper223
2. HS (I don't like how he asked Drone a question when he hasn't confirmed/posted yet. If he flips scum, it is possible that Drone is his buddy).

On an unrelated note, ChaosOmega and Toto need to get in the game. Mod, can you please prod them?

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What changed between when you scumread Creeps and now?

I moved creeps from scum read to null/very slight FOS. My reasoning is when he voted for you and said that if he flips green, go after you; if he flips red, ignore this. In the games I've red and been in off site, I've only seen town players do that.

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In the games I've

red

and been in off site, I've only seen town players do that.

Scumtell?

Joking. Just thought that was funny.

Lol!!! Nope. On mobile phone. Auto co-WRECK

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Spoiler: The Catch Up Wall

Sorry copper. Scum can't be lynchbait cause the goal is to lynch scum.

This is objectively false.

Scum can definitely be lynchbait because that's about your playstile and not what alignment you roll in a game, what happens when a player that is lynchbait as town plays another game and rolls scum, he magically becomes not lynchbait?

Thinkbig, why did you vote for Copper?

TB is not explaining himself, you are making stuff up, which one looks scummier to you?

The point is I did not know he was lynchbait when I could have pushed him to get a reaction or I was already on his wagon when I said I thought he was, either way what you are saying does not work chronologically.

I am v/la as I mentioned. I'll try to answer in this post.

Okay Mort, you are at the very least pretending to game solve and maybe it was just us butting heads because we are seeing things very differently from our own perspectives.

I don't see much (other than him being less active, but the same goes, much more so, with Toto) from HS that points at him being a different aligment from our recent game where he was town.

I have my theory on the drone comment but I want to hear what he says first.

VOTE: ThinkBig
You are next on the: why did you jump on the copper wagon list, you appear to also be game avoiding. I also want to hear your answer to Mort's questions.

What is your theory on the Drone question?

As far as copper, the reason why I voted for copper is because of him twisting the lynchbait discussion. For now, I will unvote.

UNVOTE: Copper

Hey all,

I am on V/LA until after the election on Tuesday

. The majority of my posts are coming from my iPhone. Therefore, my posts may not be able to be as substantive as I'd normally like it to be.

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His v/la was weird personally. What about the election is keeping him away from mafia

Just to clarify this point, I had a concert tonight, have a few meetings in DC tomorrow, and am an election judge on Tuesday.

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TB's wagon is probably a dead end until he is back from VL//A

Agreed. I'm not sure why it was even started after he clearly stated he was going to be on v/LA until after the election. Why he keeps checking in while on v/LA is a mystery but it may be the reason for his reads and who he has and hasn't voted for.

I keep checking in order to at least keep up with the DP and attempting to answer as many questions as possible.

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@TB why did you vote Copper?

See post 373

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I am back from V/LA. I am catching up now.

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TB in my experience has ALWAYS given game avoiding vibes. That's why I'm not too excited about TB, he'll give us answers at some point.

You have only played with me in one game, in which I was replaced due to sickness.

As another player noted, most of my inactivity came after I declared v/la.

I am back and hope to catch up.

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Pros received. Will begin posting after work. Busy week.

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*prod

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Reading now. Didn't realize how long this thread got before I left.

I am still trying to learn the game and not quite sure what to do.

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ThinkBig has had allegations of game avoiding, sheeps reasoning, sheeps votes, voted Copper and then gave a bad reason that (arguably) came chronologically after TB's vote, posted a reads list that was inconsistent with his vote.

I want to address this real quick. I'm not trying to avoid the game, I have been legitimately busy over the past few days and am trying to catch up.

I am new to this game and still not quite sure what to do.

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TB, if that game is becoming increasingly difficult for you by the day, replace out.

I think that's only fair for you guys and for town. /replace requested as I really don't know how to play or what to do.

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Excellent game all. Sorry I had to be replaced. Everyone played very well.

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You could always convert him to a VT. That's what I have done on my HS when I made a mistake.