Of course!In post 1952, malpascp wrote:So I assume you're ready to get blacklisted if you're scum?
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Manuel is the one person in this game that should have a rock solid, unquestioning townread on me because I saved his ass and lynched scum in one fell swoop when I didn't have to because that scum was breezing through the day and I was already widely townread.
That he's even entertaining the notion that I'm not town pisses me off to no end because it's completely disconnected from reality.-
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Non. Gamma would have killed me last night. I've been a nightmare to him.In post 1959, gerryoat wrote:Wait what. BG doesn't have a 50% chance of killing mafia? Sorry that's how it works on epicmafia, so I figured it worked like that here.
Also the fact that gamma didn't correct me, knowing how the role works on EM and here, makes me even more sure he is mafia-
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If you're not scum, mal is.In post 1961, gerryoat wrote:Anyway, as mafia I would have killed the claimed BG, cause that's how I figured it worked. And would have assumed it was potential auto loss if I didn't
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That's standard practice.In post 1967, Gamma Emerald wrote:Why would scum unvote me when coming in?
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If either of gerry or mal hammer, I'm hounding theotherone to the gates of hell tomorrow.
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JoaT flipped.In post 1979, malpascp wrote:
I'm guessing you don't want to hear a claim, Mr I-Set-Up-Every-Lynch.In post 1977, House wrote:If either of gerry or mal hammer, I'm hounding theotherone to the gates of hell tomorrow.
Be smart, bus yo buddy.
Watcher flipped.
Bodyguard claimed. Not cc'ed.
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Okay.In post 1979, malpascp wrote:
I'm guessing you don't want to hear a claim, Mr I-Set-Up-Every-Lynch.In post 1977, House wrote:If either of gerry or mal hammer, I'm hounding theotherone to the gates of hell tomorrow.
Be smart, bus yo buddy.
Let's look at those lynches, shall we?
eager: tons of friction and arm twisting
Victor: minimal obstruction aside from Victor himself
Gamma (almost): minimal obstruction aside from Gamma
Huntress: tons of friction and arm twisting
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Winner, winner. Chicken Dinner.In post 1991, Gamma Emerald wrote:I don't believe Huntress's claim. I believe BP is quite a safe PR for scum to claim as it is a direct reason for scum to not lynch them, explaining their survival.-
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And instead of seeking clarification, you were happy to sit back and let me lynch him and only spoke up after his wagon fell apart.In post 1993, Huntress wrote:2) That's because I don't have a hard opinion on you. Gut says town - you "feel fair but look foul" - but there's a lot of sheeping, buddying etc., that I didn't like.
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Kinda undermine the point if I answered that, wouldn't it?In post 1997, malpascp wrote:House, you planning on using your ability?-
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Where does me laughing at you for making assumptions about my motives give you the idea that I agreed?In post 1995, Gamma Emerald wrote:1)
He may not have said it himself, but he agreed when I said it.In post 1676, House wrote:
Not really, but lol.In post 1675, Gamma Emerald wrote:
To elaborate: House wanted to trick scum into fakeclaiming doctor.In post 1669, Huntress wrote:In post 1465, Huntress wrote:House saying there could be both bodyguard and doctor in the game doesn't make sense and I don't think he's explained it, has he?@ House:Can you explain this please? Or if you have, can you link me to it?.
2) How does
Quickhammer = changes vote after counterclaim?
I'll admit I'm not the greatest at figuring out which PR build are most typically together in minis because most of my time has been in larges (most games in smaller games, most time in larges).
I was tossing that offer out there as a Hail Mary because it would keep two conftown alive I'd the mod had actually given us a useful protective role to make up for this shit-tastic BG crap.-
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He only claimed the roleblocker to cc eager.In post 1999, malpascp wrote:Also there's at least 3 town PRs. We should assume there's at least one for scum.
Did Square claim his abilities? Can't find it.
Pedit: Let's say you used it, who'd you target?
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There stupid if they don't kill me anyway since keeping me alive backfired.
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^scumclaimIn post 2003, gerryoat wrote:VOTE: House
Don't see the point of there being a BP and a BG. I think House is fake in the two.
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Dude, you were just waiting for your buddy's fake claim to vote me.In post 2003, gerryoat wrote:VOTE: House
Don't see the point of there being a BP and a BG. I think House is fake in the two.
It would have been suicide to fake claim body guard ON DAY TWO.
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Anyone that doesn't see this complete 180 of Gerry's read on me simply for derailing the Gamma mislynch as the scum desperation tactic it is probably flushes the toilet with their mouth open.-
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He kinda has to, that's her buddy.In post 2018, CCC wrote:
Why do you sayIn post 2003, gerryoat wrote:VOTE: House
Don't see the point of there being a BP and a BG. I think House is fake in the two.Houseis the fake one?-
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gerry overplayed his hand because he's locked in to buddies with Huntress and they'll be chain lynched if town does derp and lynch the towniest fucking player in the game.
Although if they'll lynchme, then I officially write them off as being too stupid to win.-
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If I'm not scum, you pretty much have to believe Huntress is.In post 2023, Manuel87 wrote:Ill say it again there is no way House is scum.
There was no reason for him to get people off me and push the lynch on Eager. It would have been easy to push anyone (besides from Grendel maybe) that voted for me the next day because noone actually had a good reason to vote for me.
@malpascp: why do you call intent after that claim? Because Bullet-proof actually makes a lot of sense if you ask me.-
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I think four PR's would be that unreasonable.In post 2025, Manuel87 wrote:
Do you think Bullet-proof would be that unreasonable?In post 2024, House wrote:
If I'm not scum, you pretty much have to believe Huntress is.In post 2023, Manuel87 wrote:Ill say it again there is no way House is scum.
There was no reason for him to get people off me and push the lynch on Eager. It would have been easy to push anyone (besides from Grendel maybe) that voted for me the next day because noone actually had a good reason to vote for me.
@malpascp: why do you call intent after that claim? Because Bullet-proof actually makes a lot of sense if you ask me.-
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Square was a JoaT, which makes bulletproof even MORE unreasonable due to the utility JoaT provides.-
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Talk to me, who else can possibly be scum aside from Huntress and gerry?In post 2028, Manuel87 wrote:In post 2027, House wrote: If its you or her i would vote her but i think we should still consider other options since we still have time.-
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No. They won't have anybody else to hide behind if I'm lynched so any halfway bright town can carry the torch and quicklynch them back to back.In post 2030, CCC wrote:
Parsing error - did you perhaps mean to type "doesn't"?In post 2022, House wrote:gerry overplayed his hand because he's locked in to buddies with Huntress and they'll be chain lynched if town does derp and lynch the towniest fucking player in the game.
Although if they'll lynchme, then I officially write them off as being too stupid to win.-
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If he was scum he could have easily justified hammering Huntress and had my support tomorrow if he left me alive.In post 2032, Manuel87 wrote:He is dead set on hammering her because she claimed Bullet-proof? Doesnt make sense to me.
Look at Gerry's play dude. He DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ME UNTIL I DERAILED THE GAMMA WAGON AND STARTED PUSHING HUNTRESS.
His scumclaiming is all over the place, and the association with Huntress is so glaringly obvious it hurts.-
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^ TruthIn post 2033, Gamma Emerald wrote:I may have sheeped him on Gerry, but I am voting Huntress for my own reason. And I voted first!-
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In post 1861, House wrote:Gamma, props for Huntress are all yours when she flips red bro.
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We gonna 1v1 if she actually flips town (as if).In post 2037, CCC wrote:
My current thinking on this question:In post 2029, House wrote:Talk to me, who else can possibly be scum aside from Huntress and gerry?
If Huntress flips red (as expected) then Gerry will be my top remaining scumread.
If Huntress flips green (the unexpected outcome) then I will need to re-evaluate all my reads in the light of whoever gets nightkilled. In this situation, Gamma, House, and malpascp are all possibilities.-
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Manuel is never getting lynched. He's scum!confirmed town lol.In post 2040, CCC wrote:
...oh, right, if Town lynches youIn post 2031, House wrote:
No. They won't have anybody else to hide behind if I'm lynched so any halfway bright town can carry the torch and quicklynch them back to back.In post 2030, CCC wrote:
Parsing error - did you perhaps mean to type "doesn't"?In post 2022, House wrote:gerry overplayed his hand because he's locked in to buddies with Huntress and they'll be chain lynched if town does derp and lynch the towniest fucking player in the game.
Although if they'll lynchme, then I officially write them off as being too stupid to win.first, then we'd presumably lynch Huntress/Gerry on the following days. (In my eyes, though, Manuel is still Townier than you are; if I ignore myself, you're only the second-Towniest player in the game)-
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Gerry, Huntress is at L-1.In post 2049, gerryoat wrote:What are votes at right now, btw?
Also Huntress can you out your reads please? Do you also think House and Gamma? Or are you still fixated on House and CCC. Personally I think CCC is town and being wrong here.
I'm at L-2. Both scum are voting me for fucking with their narrative.
If you're town and want any chance at all to redeem yourself, take a long hard look at how quiet Huntress was until I voted her, realize the truth that has been eating at me since the Day began, and hammer her.
Otherwise, you're going to be speedlynched tomorrow after she flips red because you did your damnedest to protect scum.-
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You think I bussed one buddy d1, andIn post 2046, gerryoat wrote:
Because I think him and Gamma are the team. His refusal to admit Gamma's scumminess is something I don't think he'd do as town.In post 2018, CCC wrote:
Why do you sayIn post 2003, gerryoat wrote:VOTE: House
Don't see the point of there being a BP and a BG. I think House is fake in the two.Houseis the fake one?spent the entire gamecasting shade on my other buddy?
Yeah... this is scum, folks.-
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IN NO WORLD EVER DOES GAMMA!SCUM LEAVE ME ALIVE AFTER D2.In post 2047, gerryoat wrote:
BECAUSE GAMMA IS OBVIOUS MAFIA. IF YOU CANT REALIZE THIS THEN YOU HAVE TO BE MAFIA, YOU CANNOT BE THIS BAD AS TO TOWNREAD HIMIn post 2035, House wrote:
If he was scum he could have easily justified hammering Huntress and had my support tomorrow if he left me alive.In post 2032, Manuel87 wrote:He is dead set on hammering her because she claimed Bullet-proof? Doesnt make sense to me.
Look at Gerry's play dude. He DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ME UNTIL I DERAILED THE GAMMA WAGON AND STARTED PUSHING HUNTRESS.
His scumclaiming is all over the place, and the association with Huntress is so glaringly obvious it hurts.-
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Look at that statement.In post 2032, Manuel87 wrote:He also played dumb about the lolhammer his slot did when i mentioned it.
LOOK AT IT.
He played dumb about an action that happenedbefore he was in the game?
Gee... ya think?
Now look at Huntress. Regardless of what you think about four PR's,shedoesn't believe there can be four and that's why she's voting me.
But I claimed yesterDay, which means she knew my claim at the beginning of toDay. So why wouldn't town!Huntress vote me at the beginning of the Day instead of wait until she was forced to "claim" to state her suspicions, as CCC brought up?
It doesn't add up, bro.-
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Aaaaaaaand Manuel is back on the table as possible scum.
Been looking at d1 wagons, and the only scum on his is eager, which may have been distancing gone wrong.
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Gerry, if you're town Manuel87 has to be scum.
DO NOT LET THIS GO after I'm dead because it's the only way we'll win if I'm NK'ed and you're town.-
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He's blaming mal for not knowing the motives behind the previous owner of the slot's actions.In post 2032, Manuel87 wrote:He also played dumb about the lolhammer his slot did when i mentioned it.
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So you are so desperate that you are now telling people what they believe?In post 2060, gerryoat wrote:
Maybe you didn't believe his claim? Since he was asking for a doc on him. IDK. Im just giving one possible reason. Either way, you and House are scum and you're lucky the rest of the town are being two blind to see.In post 2059, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Do you not remember House claimed BG?In post 2058, gerryoat wrote:
Have you ever thought maybe he PR read Grendel? What you're saying can be easily answered something like thatIn post 2052, House wrote:
IN NO WORLD EVER DOES GAMMA!SCUM LEAVE ME ALIVE AFTER D2.In post 2047, gerryoat wrote:
BECAUSE GAMMA IS OBVIOUS MAFIA. IF YOU CANT REALIZE THIS THEN YOU HAVE TO BE MAFIA, YOU CANNOT BE THIS BAD AS TO TOWNREAD HIMIn post 2035, House wrote:
If he was scum he could have easily justified hammering Huntress and had my support tomorrow if he left me alive.In post 2032, Manuel87 wrote:He is dead set on hammering her because she claimed Bullet-proof? Doesnt make sense to me.
Look at Gerry's play dude. He DIDN'T CARE ABOUT ME UNTIL I DERAILED THE GAMMA WAGON AND STARTED PUSHING HUNTRESS.
His scumclaiming is all over the place, and the association with Huntress is so glaringly obvious it hurts.
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So now Manuel and I are obvious partners?In post 2062, gerryoat wrote:I'm 100% confident that this is a ML right now and you are both mafia. House trying to get me to hammer Huntress and selling me on Manuel being town despite the fact that he says me and Huntress are partners makes them obvious partners.
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What option does he have? He can't answer for somebody else. This is common sense shit here.In post 2067, Manuel87 wrote:I am not blaming him for not knowing the motive but he tries to brush it off as if it has nothing to do with him and i will not accept that.-
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Look at the difference in gerry now compared to how Meh his play had been the entire game.
All of a sudden he's motivated now that his buddy is L-1-
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I can lynch either gerry or Huntress as I'm sold on them being the team.
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Translation: Shit, my ploy backfired. How can I spin this?In post 2081, Huntress wrote:How does it make sense to you that scum would choose to leave House alive at risk to themselves just to push a lynch on a player who you think is already an easy lynch, and little or no threat to them? It doesn't to me, yet that is the reason House has been putting forward for his continued existence, which you are accepting too easily.-
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If I'm so devious that I sell out my own, unsuspected buddy d1 for towncred, why am I also so stupid as to fakeclaim such a shit PR as bodyguard that leaves me fielding one accusation after another about why I'm still alive?
Herp a derp.-
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You did that to yourself with your harpie shrieking chainsawing the second the pet mislynch got derailed and Huntress hit L-1.In post 2090, gerryoat wrote:
You still haven't given me a reason as to why Huntress is mafia. All you keep saying is I'm maf with her.In post 2087, House wrote:If I'm so devious that I sell out my own, unsuspected buddy d1 for towncred, why am I also so stupid as to fakeclaim such a shit PR as bodyguard that leaves me fielding one accusation after another about why I'm still alive?
Herp a derp.
You panicked and chainsawed the shit out of me to protect her. I thought Jester/mal was her buddy before you pulled that stunt.
And I've explained my reads several times, not interested in retreading.-
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1. gerryoat
2. Gamma Emerald
4. House
5. CCC
7. Huntress
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Manuel87 - cleared by scum d1
Gamma - cleared by scum n2
CCC - cleared by House
Leaving...
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Gerry/mal isn't impossible, but I don't see it. Huntress HAS been lurkerscum as shit and only showed any real signs of life after it was her neck on the chopping block.
mal stating intent to hammer had me thinking he was an unlikely partner with her, but... where is it?
Gerry makes the most sense as her partner due to his ridiculously ragey white knighting when she came under heat.-
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Manuel/mal, the fact Huntress was at L-1 for so long and unhammered should tell you she's scum.
Town has to work together at this stage in the game to lynch scum because they're in full on survival mode and won't be bussing.-
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Read 2097.In post 2096, gerryoat wrote: I'm seriously not even mafia, and if you're town you need to unvote. But, if you aren't town then that's the only reason you'd continue to vote me.-
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It doesn't. Me voting you is because you're the likeliest partner of Huntress and my willingness to work with town.In post 2100, gerryoat wrote:
So how does that = voting me?In post 2097, House wrote:Manuel/mal, the fact Huntress was at L-1 for so long and unhammered should tell you she's scum.
Town has to work together at this stage in the game to lynch scum because they're in full on survival mode and won't be bussing.
If you want to come back to the light side and lynch scum, I'll follow you onto her wagon.-
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If she flips town, mal has to be scum and the last is between you and CCC as the only non-scumcleared townread I have.In post 2102, gerryoat wrote:What happens if she flips town?-
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With three PR's (no matter who you believe), 2 scum would be incredibly underpowered especially when one already flipped goon.In post 2107, gerryoat wrote:Can someone tell me if there is always 3 mafia in this setup with this many people? or is it possible there is only 2.-
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I honestly don't know how you can read my d2 play and think you'd want me around another day if you were scum named Gamma.In post 2109, gerryoat wrote:If Huntress is mafia, then I don't know who can be partner. idk if gamma would be partners with her, but I won't rule it out. I don't think Huntress and CCC are partners unless they both bussed.
1) Hate all you want, i was a driving force behind two lynches.
2) I'd been pressuring Gamma ALL DAY
3) Grendel and I made a pact to slaughter him d3
4) Grendel lamented d2 that he lacked the ability to lead lynches
That makes him the perfect kill to set the dogs of war upon Gamma the following day.-
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You're not in hammer range.In post 2114, gerryoat wrote:Gamma, if you're town, which I still doubt, but still. I've read you wrong before, so it's possible I'm wrong here. Can you unvote. Tell me why you think Huntress is maf-
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I had a suspicion that GreenNope was scum a and offered to replace into that slot first due to my preference for playing scum.In post 2120, gerryoat wrote:What was bad about her day 1? She subbed in so I think she was rereading. Which is why I gave her the benefit of the doubt.
Don't ask me why I thought that, just a, "ding ding ding! ME WANT" for the slot as I was following the game.-
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Lol.In post 2122, gerryoat wrote:Oh right I forgot you were a sub too. Why did you think they were scum?
The flake, mostly. Struck me as a "shit, scum" thing to ditch the game like that.-
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Truth.In post 2125, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I did the same thing.In post 2120, gerryoat wrote:What was bad about her day 1? She subbed in so I think she was rereading. Which is why I gave her the benefit of the doubt.
She told me I was wrong.
I remember that specifically.-
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In post 453, Huntress wrote:
I had caught up by then.In post 450, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Huntress: Because you were catching up.