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Well, I'm only on Page 3 of my catchup but, so far, I am leaning town on iraonavp. So, I won't be supporting that wagon, as of right now.
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Good. That's exactly what I wanted to hear.In post 279, JarJarDrinks wrote:I do recall. I'd say my play hasn't changed at all since I've been pretty damn successful playing the way I have.
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Posts 271 and 275 are spot on.
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This will have to come tomorrow. I won't have time tonight.In post 280, Xkfyu wrote:I'm all caught up now. Full reads list coming soon.-
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At that time, it was mostly because of 8.In post 288, JaeReed wrote:
Why are you leaning town on ira? What do you believe shows town motivation in his posting?In post 277, Xkfyu wrote:Well, I'm only on Page 3 of my catchup but, so far, I am leaning town on iraonavp. So, I won't be supporting that wagon, as of right now.
He's an alt, and honestly, I can think of a few different players that this kind of reaction could come from. All of which, I think would make them most likely town.In post 304, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Normally I'd agree w/ this. But his in particular seem contrived as if he pretending to be frustrated.In post 299, JaeReed wrote:
Nah it's coming off as frustration, which is closer to NAI than anything. If I had to put a lean on it I'd go town. I've seen quite a few town say stuff like that. Usually only once or twice though. The repeating of it is a little weird, I guess.In post 290, Trivium wrote:"You're right, this is my scum play" Strikes me as scummy. That's a defense. "Welp lynch me" Is the same thing. Defensive scum play. Also the quote change thing seems like he's caring too much about what he's saying and how he's saying it.
Look @ each of those post and tell me if he really has something to be frustrated about:
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People aren't really even accussing him of being scum. He's just so quick to jump to "lynch me" when no one is saying to lynch him.
Well...except for maybe one.
Honestly, even though it was just one game, this does sound exactly like the town Accountant I played against previously.In post 306, Tam wrote:Accountant seems to have just suddenly stepped in the game and literally gone for the nearest bare throat he saw, and has Iraon locked in his sights. The attack on him seems very direct and very forced somehow. As far as I can tell, the whole suspicion thing on Iraon was just him and trivium bumping heads slightly and he didn't seem to answer things quite right. I have gotten stuck in this trap myself so I agree that he probably just reads formal and maybe a tad awkward, but it could also be nervousness & defensiveness if he is bad. I don't really have a good read on him yet, but I do find it extremely weird that Accountant jumped on him like that and just won't let up. Accountant, can you shed some light on why you are so quick to jump on Iraon? You seem quite eager.
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After, what I thought to be, a pretty solid case against Trivium, laid out by MURDERCAT, I was just about to vote for Trivium.
However, this vote from pacman looks very opportunistic to me. Like he's just been sitting there waiting for someone to make a good case against someone so that he can vote them.
Though, the strength of his case does beg the question, why didn't MURDERCAT vote Trivium?
I thought you said you never vote until you're ready for the day to end?In post 391, evilpacman18 wrote:I'd prefer not to lynch until IAI, ira and xykfu say some more.
Why was that exactly?In post 401, MURDERCAT wrote:
I'm not pushing for your lynch?In post 392, Trivium wrote:My wagon is pretty bullshit. Just going to put that out there. I mean, I have a bunch of people voting me because of a gutread of Murder, who's obviously distancing themselves from my lynch by being weirdly indecisive. That beginning bit that murdercat seems all 'pinged' about is really just me fucking around to get out of rvs as fast as possible because I don't get the point of it. I'm not going to defend myself any more either, so you can either fuck off or mislynch. I don't think murdercat is mafia, but evilpacman is obviously sheeping hard and I'm just disappointed with the confirmed town.
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I just read the cotastrophy that was pages 17 and 18. I'm pretty sure that ira is town here. I don't think he was intentionally dodging questions. I think he is town who legitimately thought he had answered the questions. I've seen this a lot times, always from frustrated townies who are being ganged up on.
I disagree, but only with half half of your statement.In post 465, Accountant wrote:
You sound a lot like you're scum unsure whether to bus or save your partner right now dudeIn post 463, Trivium wrote:I dunno maybe he wasn't quite dodging or anything like that... I think that was just an inability to answer the question because of miscommunication.
I think he sounds like scum being unsure of whether or not he wants to look like opportunistic scum by pushing for a town ira's mislynch.
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If you are town, then JaeReed is obviously mislead.In post 473, iraonavp wrote:
You do realize JaeReed is innocent child...In post 469, Accountant wrote:
Except jae also thinks the same. Is jae also mafia contributing to the illusion? Holy shit your arguments are downright absurdNo, I answered every question I can. It's just that MURDERCAT pretends like I didn't answer the question and asks it again, to create the illusion that I am being evasive.
You and MURDERCAT are scum-aligned trying to make me look bad. JaeReed is just mislead.
Knowing that, don't you think it could be the case that at least one of (if not both) Accountant and MC are also just mislead townies?
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Ok yeah, I'm ready to do this now.In post 475, Trivium wrote:
Yeah OK this is a load of bull. Also I'm confused about what's going on and I want to get rid of the confusion so.In post 470, iraonavp wrote:
No, that's just what you're saying so nobody changes their mind and you lose your position. If I was really scum-aligned then you wouldn't need to tell other people to ignore me, it's just you're afraid that what I'm saying will get through to enough people and you will lose your mislynch.In post 464, Accountant wrote:Don't engage with iraon, he knows he's caught and is jamming up the thread with pages of evasive bs and accusing everyone who jumps on him.
VOTE: iraonvp
Give a solid response to the question murdercat asked you. You have like 4 people all saying the same thing, and one of them is the IC.
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The bold makes me think he's just using JaeReed's IC status as a scapegoat. Like he's saying, "The IC is even suspicious of him, so you guys totally can't blame me when ira flips town."
Huh?In post 499, Trivium wrote:
This is paranoia, but it's reaching paranoia. Scummy paranoia. Aware that the mafia have daychat paranoia.In post 496, iraonavp wrote:
See, look! MURDERCAT probably told Accountant in the mafia chat that if I was accused that I would dig my own grave, how would Accountant know that I usually get mislynched otherwise?In post 488, Accountant wrote:
"Hey guys, I'll be busy for the next day so I won't be around to post much. [insert previously established strong read] is still town/scum." then sit back and watch ira dig his own grave
How would you expect scum to react to the back and forth with Ira if Ira was indeed town? Because if I had to point a finger at anything to describe it it'd be what Trivium posted around that time.
Were you not aware that mafia have daychat?
Ok, I'm going to explain this to you because I actually think you do believe what you say. However, I assure you, that don't make nearly as much sense as you think they do.In post 516, iraonavp wrote:
My posts make perfect sense and I explained it so many times...In post 500, MURDERCAT wrote:Here's the thing Iraon, your posts don't make sense. The questions I asked were actually all legitimate attempts to understand you position. When you just say things like "look at this it's ridiculous" that's not enough for me to know if you are town or scum. Understandingwhyyou think it is ridiculous is what I need from you. I see you think it's wifom, but do you really think that scum is going to act scummy to wifom? Isn't scum's goal to try to look townie?
You absolutely could not have failed to understand my simple position and had to request me to repeat myself so many times because you actually didn't understand. It was all for show.
Your posts make perfect sense to you, but that's only because you wrote them and you already know exactly what you were trying to say. Everyone else doesn't have that kind of insight.
You would be much better off to really take your time say exactly what it is you are trying to say. Even if it becomes over-simplified, the key word here is "explicit."
Surely.In post 518, JaeReed wrote:Was already confirmed... We just forgot.
...Someone would have saved iraon from himself by now if he had a partner, surely?
What the hell is this vote?In post 521, Trivium wrote:
NAH. Explain that reason please. And not everyone is townreading you. VOTE: MURDERCATIn post 519, MURDERCAT wrote:
Lol. You can read me however you want for whatever reasons you want, but there's a reason everyone is town reading me.In post 515, Trivium wrote:
This needs to stop right the fuck now. I am not having this happen again. Explain why you're townie. I can't believe I'm agreeing with the grasping for straws iraonscum.In post 510, MURDERCAT wrote:
I am saying that because IIn post 504, Trivium wrote:
I need to elaborate on this because I really want to drive the message home- Don't say you're obvious town. Last game I played we had a mafia member constantly assert they were obvious town until everybody just believed them, and I don't want the fact that the IC thinks you're town to create a scum win for you. I townread you, but don't do this.In post 494, Trivium wrote:
NO. NOT THIS. ANYTHING BUT THIS.In post 492, MURDERCAT wrote:
Lol I'm obv town and you know itIn post 487, JarJarDrinks wrote:Man I have too many. Even MC is looking better to me lately.amobvious town. And I will continue to say it, if I wish to poke fun at people who know it's true but are pretending I am not as townie as I actually am.
You leave ira's wagon to vote the same person as ira?
Why do you think he's trying to intimidate you with this vote?
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In my experience, it more often comes from town aligned players who incorrectly believe that everyone SHOULD be town reading them based off their play (because they are clearly biased), than scum.In post 526, iraonavp wrote:
Exactly, it's usually scum-aligned. I saw a player do this in a game I played before as well: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p7675815.In post 504, Trivium wrote:
I need to elaborate on this because I really want to drive the message home- Don't say you're obvious town. Last game I played we had a mafia member constantly assert they were obvious town until everybody just believed them, and I don't want the fact that the IC thinks you're town to create a scum win for you. I townread you, but don't do this.In post 494, Trivium wrote:
NO. NOT THIS. ANYTHING BUT THIS.In post 492, MURDERCAT wrote:
Lol I'm obv town and you know itIn post 487, JarJarDrinks wrote:Man I have too many. Even MC is looking better to me lately.
But, maybe I've just played too many games with town Nahdia.
PS: Hi Nahdia
Well, that was easy. By the way, I'm also doing the same things MC said he was doing.
Can I get one of those town reads too?
I've pretty much already answered this, but I'll explicitly answer the question.In post 539, MURDERCAT wrote:I would like everyone who hasn't posted recently (JarJarDrinks,evilpacman18,Town Mafioso,Xkfyu,I Am Innocent,Tam) to give a firm stance on whether iraonvp looks townier or scummier due to this interaction.
I definitely think he's town after all of this.
I'd be down for this as well, if the Trivium lynch doesn't happen.In post 541, JaeReed wrote:In post 536, Bacde wrote:
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like an IAI/Town Mafioso scumteam seems pretty probable to me right now
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I could go IAI just because I haven't seen anything lately. Flying under the radar while town self destructs has got to be hilarious to mafia.
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Better late than never, right? Here are my current reads:
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Accountant- I think Accountant is one of those players that I tend to genuinely disagree with a lot. I've played in one game with him (he was town), and I'm getting the exact same feeling about him now.
Bacde- His "Let's lynch Xkfyu as a joke" stuff makes him look inconcerned about how people view him. Post 186 feels super townie to me. Plus, he shares my Trivium scum read.
iraonavp- RVS or not, I still really like 8 and 10. Also, as I said in 560, I'm pretty sure ira is town.
JarJarDrinks- Even though I'm less convinced about pacman now, not only did I agree with JJD's points about him in 245, 271, and 275, it also showed that JJD was actively thinking and doing a lot of reading. Which is exactly what I would expect from a town JJD.
MURDERCAT- I think Accountant's play style would generally make him an easy target for a mislynch. So, I like the way MC pointed out, in 338 that what Tam was talking about with Accountant is NAI, instead of agreeing with her and possibly pushing on Accountant. That's a pretty minor thing, but I do really like the effort that he's put in, and his pressure on ira was good, if a little long.
Town Mafioso- Posts 48 and 49, the way he openly talks about a town block, and admitting that his vote on JJD was a chainsaw vote, makes me think he's probably town. What I said in the beginning of 564 still stands, as well.
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evilpacman18- I skimmed over this post in my first read through because of how cluttered it is, but looking back, it comes accross as totally genuine to me. Which makes me wonder if he shouldn't be in the town pile. I just can't ignore the points on him that JJD mentioned.
I Am Innocent- I know I have the least right out of pretty much everyone here to complain about someone's activity levels, but at least my posts have had some kind of content. I'd be fine with lynching him as a compromise towards the end of the day, assuming he doesn't pick it up/get replaced.
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Tam- So, her second post, post 306. Remember what I said about Accountant's play style making him an easy target? I also agree with whoever it was that said everything she says is too perfect.
Trivium- I've talked quite a bit recently on why I think Triv is scum. I'd also like to point out that, reading his ISO, I did find another instance, post 76, where he causually mentions that the IC agrees with him.
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But I thought you said that you agreed that they seem probable as a team. Now you're saying that IAI would be nothing more than a policy lynch?In post 578, Trivium wrote:I guess my response to that post would be... I scumread mafioso so I'd be down with lynching him. IaI is also a good policy lynch.-
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So, there may not be any way to defend yourself against the "perfect wordings" thing, but it is what it is.In post 642, Tam wrote:Xkfyu:
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Tam - So, her second post, post 306. Remember what I said about Accountant's play style making him an easy target? I also agree with whoever it was that said everything she says is too perfect.
So, again, I'm not sure how to defend against saying the perfect things...if someone can elaborate, or maybe actually bring something up that I can answer, that would be great.
(Maybe even have an original reason why you don't like me, and not just tag on to other people's thoughts alone?) I did see you point out a specific post by me, but I don't understand what about the post you didn't like...my calling out Accountant? Someone I've never played with for acting like he normally does? I dunno. The way you worded it made me think you were suspicious of me because of something YOU said? Please elaborate.
In regards to Accountant, I don't think aggressive playstyles are scummy. Though, a lot of people do (I suspect it has more to do with people disliking aggressive personalities, in general, than anything Mafia related).
Anyways, from my experience, Accountant has a tendency to aggressively push who he thinks is scum, even early on. And I think this makes him a huge target for scum to push. Especially if he's wrong, which I think he is, at this time (page 26), about ira.
Shit...In post 722, Trivium wrote:Failure quote but I have a point here. I see scum defending a scumpartner by making absolutely no case, but simply saying that their lynch isn't going to happen.
Confirmation bias. That doesn't come from scum.
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Did ira take over your account all of a sudden?In post 754, Trivium wrote:
I'm making so much sense and you aren't doing anything to defend yourself except for claim that I'm flailing.In post 752, Bacde wrote:
I don't think you understand my "are you making a town case of me" postIn post 746, Impoetic wrote:
Is this a regular occurrence for you, finding all 3 scum with absolute certainty d1?In post 728, Trivium wrote:I need other people than scum to start posting again. I really do because I just found the scum team.
Because I don't quite believe it.
Also, Tam, I don't like your last post on the previous page. I think that's totally fake. Why would you "hope" your SR is innocent? Why would you be so certain now when you were wishy-washy a moment ago? Sure, this "I got both scum" gimmick is incredibly incriminating, but I don't see how that sudden conviction makes sense. Your forewarning doesn't make it any better.
Predit: Um, what? Bacde? Those last three posts were abysmal, especially when taken in conjunction to the ones you made just this page. Since when have you SR'd Tam?
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How is the towniness of the post dependent on Rob's flip?In post 859, Impoetic wrote:
this post was really towny (unless rob flips scum I guess)In post 857, Accountant wrote:robb you and I operate on such different wavelengths that it's gonna be super hard to work with you-
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You're right. Sorry. I posted my question before I read any further.In post 939, Impoetic wrote:Predit: I already explained that in the next post-
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It's certainly not bad logic in everday life. In fact, it's spot on.In post 950, Accountant wrote:
hahahahaha no this logic is badScumtell? Maybe not. Nobody would lynch him for that but it factors into his credibility. He's not a trustworthy person so it makes it harder to trust him cause if he'd lie about something meaningless like that, what else would he lie about?
However, Mafia is not everyday life, and there are instances where town legitimately lie. In this case though, I feel like the whole thing is pretty irrelevant.-
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You can't just go around having your own definition of words. That's not how definitions work.In post 960, Robbnva wrote:My definition of a lie he did but it's irrelevant at this point. Moving on-
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Lol ok. Like you said, moving on.In post 963, Robbnva wrote:
Well I use the definition in the dictionary.In post 961, Xkfyu wrote:
You can't just go around having your own definition of words. That's not how definitions work.In post 960, Robbnva wrote:My definition of a lie he did but it's irrelevant at this point. Moving on
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Based on what?
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Oh, I gotcha. You meant that you are more comfortable with the Tam wagon, as opposed to the Triv/Rob wagon. I thought you meant that you were just more comfortable with the Tam wagon, in general.In post 966, MURDERCAT wrote:Robb's posting.
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Huh?In post 969, Impoetic wrote:
We still have 7 days, 1 hour, and 28 minutes left. Cool it, MURDERCAT.In post 968, Xkfyu wrote:
Oh, I gotcha. You meant that you are more comfortable with the Tam wagon, as opposed to the Triv/Rob wagon. I thought you meant that you were just more comfortable with the Tam wagon, in general.In post 966, MURDERCAT wrote:Robb's posting.
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That's twice you've mentioned how much time we have left in the day.In post 977, Impoetic wrote:Actually it sort of went the toher way around -- someone else said it was a reason of yours, I said it was a bad reason, then you acknowledged it was a reason -- but it's close enough, and we still have 7 days left.
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Ah, didn't notice your join date. That's fair.In post 984, Impoetic wrote:
I'm too new to be any particular type of player but I was under the impression it was optimal not to let the lynch go through less than halfway through the dayIn post 983, Xkfyu wrote:
That's twice you've mentioned how much time we have left in the day.In post 977, Impoetic wrote:Actually it sort of went the toher way around -- someone else said it was a reason of yours, I said it was a bad reason, then you acknowledged it was a reason -- but it's close enough, and we still have 7 days left.
You're not one of those "Always wait until deadline to lynch" players, are you?
Well, the game started a week ago, and the day phases are two weeks long. So, we are only about half way through the phase, but we have been playing for a whole week.In post 987, Impoetic wrote:fair enough. I still think a day or two is a little early when the phase is a week long-
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Me too. I'm pretty sold on that slot being town at this point.In post 1015, JarJarDrinks wrote:
I kinda agree w/ this. Totally clashes w/ his earlier attitude of "I have no idea what I'm doing".In post 1005, evilpacman18 wrote:I'm floating around page 30-31 area and idk if I think scum Trivium would be like "I found all the scum already"-
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Can you elaborate please?In post 1019, Impoetic wrote:
this post "pings" me.In post 1011, evilpacman18 wrote:also can't really resist a wagon of 4 of my strongest townreads
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In isolation, I guess I can see how you could believe that, but I don't see how you can look at his recent string of posts and think any of that.In post 1021, Impoetic wrote:in other words: the post is scummy.
It just sounds too sly/passive/something. Man, idk. Also I really don't like him using that to justify anything......
Like, sheeping your townreads is in and of itself a bit, um, un-scumhunty???
If you can't tell I'm having trouble with words rn
For one, assuming he's town, then he does have 4 legitimate town reads. Meaning that he HAS done some hunting, and some people would argue that town hunting is even more important than scum hunting.
Of course, if he's scum, then he's probably just buddying up to the four players who were on the wagon at the time, and yes, justifying his vote with that. Which would mean Tam is town and suggest that most (if not all) of the players on her wagon are also town.
So, what do you think? Should we lynch pacman? If he flips scum, that's a lot of players that we can eliminate from our scum pool.-
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If they were always town, wouldn't that suggest that it is town-indicative, instead of NAI?In post 1023, Accountant wrote:normally I would agree but I've seen townies say the same shit 3-4 times in other games and they were never scum so it's NAI for me-
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I don't understand the question. The scenario only eliminated his "town reads" from the scum pool in the event that pacman flipped scum.In post 1026, Impoetic wrote:
???????????????????????? how is a townie tring people enough to eliminate all his tr's from a scumpool (except me, go ahead and clear me)In post 1024, Xkfyu wrote:In post 1021, Impoetic wrote:Should we lynch pacman? If he flips scum, that's a lot of players that we can eliminate from our scum pool.-
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No no. I'm not saying that you believe that. I'm actually leaning town on him, in fact. I'm just putting forth a risk vs reward scenario for us to discuss.In post 1030, Impoetic wrote:yes but I read the word scum in your post as town for some reason. Also one scummy post isn't enough for me to determine whether he's most likely to be scum compared to other people;.......
The game is starting to become stagnant, so I'm trying to manufacture some thoughts and discussion from people.-
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Ok good, more discussion.In post 1032, Impoetic wrote:I'm always trying to manufacture thoughts and discussion on people because my mind has become stagnant so I can relate to that!
I think I want to lynch jarjardrinks though
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I think it's NAI as well, but I'd be tempted to lynch him just for the possible information to be gained in the event of him flipping scum.In post 1035, Impoetic wrote:but accountant thinks it's NAI...
I actually agree with JarJar there. I'd say that there is actually more apparent scum motivation in those 3 sentences than town, regardless of yours and Accountant's alignments.In post 1036, Impoetic wrote:
OK here's 1 of those posts. I guess I probably had a negative impression of this post because this post disagreed with my post. There, pr00f'd.In post 1017, JarJarDrinks wrote:
I don't see any thought @ all in these posts. They look like fluff just like the rest of his ISO.In post 998, Impoetic wrote:the few game-related posts he has so far show an incredibly genuine thought processIn post 861, Sonrio wrote:i have a fear of impoetic but ill read her correctly in time just because shes an easy read later on in the game. ive got my eye on youIn post 891, Sonrio wrote:off topic but how to make my signature show up on all my posts????????????????
also accountant is one of those blunt, mean and old players but also town so ill UNVOTE: Accountant
I'm currently town reading JarJar, so the case against him is going to have to be pretty significant in order for me to change my mind.-
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Fair points.In post 1040, Accountant wrote:In post 1025, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 1023, Accountant wrote:
normally I would agree but I've seen townies say the same shit 3-4 times in other games and they were never scum so it's NAI for me
If they were always town, wouldn't that suggest that it is town-indicative, instead of NAI?
No. Too easy to fake to be a real towntell + 4 games is a small sample size
I don't think it's terrible, but I certainly don't think it's great.In post 1040, Accountant wrote:Don't lymch pacman, he's a terrible lynch for day 1 at leaat
We need to lynch someone though, and soon. This game really needs a flip, and I'm pretty sure that the ira lynch isn't happening today.-
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Honestly, I'm not into a Sonrio lynch. I just moved my vote to him (intentionally without reason) to see if I could illicite some reactions from someone, since the last thing I said about that slot was that I was town reading it. It failed, miserably. The only person who even mentioned it was Accountant, just to say that he disagreed with me.In post 1046, JarJarDrinks wrote:I wanna lynch Sonrio but also cool w/ lynching pacman
Would compromise on Tam.
It's been a while since I read TM's ISO, so I'm going to do that now.In post 1047, JarJarDrinks wrote:People, reread the TM/Sonrio slot please. It's so Fn scum.-
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I just don't see it, man.In post 1047, JarJarDrinks wrote:People, reread the TM/Sonrio slot please. It's so Fn scum.
Even though I really don't like TM's obnoxious play style, my town read on him is actually stronger than it was because of the following:
In post 69 he tries to cast some early shade on JaeReed, our IC.
Now, a few things of note:
1: TM's first post was only an hour or so after the start of the game, so he wasn't late.
2: Post 69 was 6 hours after the start of the game. Therefore, there was 5 hours time between the time TM made his first post and the time that he tried to cast shade on JR. Also, TM was actively posting during that 5 hour span.
3: Scum have day chat.
Now, with 3 scum, I don't see how all 3 of them miss the fact that JR is an IC and/or no one mentions it in the scum chat. So, to believe that TM/Sonrio is scum, I think you would have to assume that him casting shade on JR was all staged, and I think that's a stretch.
And Sonrio is completely null to me. Therefore, I'm still town reading the slot.-
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I am not.In post 1053, Robbnva wrote:
you have got to be jokingIn post 1052, Xkfyu wrote:I have seriously considered the pacman lynch, but I just can't get past how genuine post 228 feels.-
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I didn't say it was good. I said it was genuine.In post 1056, Robbnva wrote:that post wasn't even that good and could easily be faked
And anything could be faked fairly easily. This is forum mafia, where people have as much time as they want to manufacture a post. That doesn't mean that itwasfaked.-
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Like I said, anything can be faked. I'm not going to assume that something is fake, just because it's possible. The simplest answer is that it is indeed genuine. He doesn't seem to have faked any of his other posts.In post 1059, Robbnva wrote:But some notes which 1. Can be faked 2. Could still be genuine and come from scum shouldn't change your mind on a person
The fact it does is highly suspicious.
Besides, I never really changed my mind on him. I'd already said that I was town reading him. I was just tempted to support his lynch. Which I'm surprised that THAT isn't what you find "highly suspicious."-
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Hi. Been here long?
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I'd prefer to wait for a claim as well, but she hasn't posted in almost 2 days.In post 1063, Impoetic wrote:I'm NOT willing to lynch Tam before she gets back, even if she is a scum lean.-
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In post 1068, Robbnva wrote:
No you had him as null. You also were tossing the idea out to possibly lynch him and we're trying to get other people's thoughts. To go from both of those things to not wanting to lynch him at all for that post alone is highly suspicious. I'll ignore the fact you misremembered your read on him.In post 1061, Xkfyu wrote:
Like I said, anything can be faked. I'm not going to assume that something is fake, just because it's possible. The simplest answer is that it is indeed genuine. He doesn't seem to have faked any of his other posts.In post 1059, Robbnva wrote:But some notes which 1. Can be faked 2. Could still be genuine and come from scum shouldn't change your mind on a person
The fact it does is highly suspicious.
Besides, I never really changed my mind on him. I'd already said that I was town reading him. I was just tempted to support his lynch. Which I'm surprised that THAT isn't what you find "highly suspicious."
I'll ignore the fact that you are skimming.In post 1031, Xkfyu wrote:
No no. I'm not saying that you believe that.In post 1030, Impoetic wrote:yes but I read the word scum in your post as town for some reason. Also one scummy post isn't enough for me to determine whether he's most likely to be scum compared to other people;.......I'm actually leaning town on him, in fact.I'm just putting forth a risk vs reward scenario for us to discuss.
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I think we all agree that we should wait.In post 1072, Robbnva wrote:
not really. claims should only come when a person is at L-1 and someone is asking for a claim with an intent to hammer. I have seen people at L-1 and not have to claim and still save themselves.In post 1070, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Well yeah that's why I put her @ L-1 since that's usually the indicator for someone to claim.In post 1064, Xkfyu wrote:I'd prefer to wait for a claim as well
personally I am waiting for tam to answer my question. I think we should at least wait to let them respond-
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I assume that my null read on pacman is in reference to my reads list in post 572, which I just now realized that I talked about 228 in, but apparently forgot to include the link. But I did say that I was wondering if he shouldn't be in my town pile, even then.In post 1078, Robbnva wrote:
Well I guess I'm confused. When did your null read on him change and why? Cause 10 posts prior you were suggesting lynching him and you certainly wouldn't be suggesting to lynch a town readIn post 1073, Xkfyu wrote:In post 1068, Robbnva wrote:
No you had him as null. You also were tossing the idea out to possibly lynch him and we're trying to get other people's thoughts. To go from both of those things to not wanting to lynch him at all for that post alone is highly suspicious. I'll ignore the fact you misremembered your read on him.In post 1061, Xkfyu wrote:
Like I said, anything can be faked. I'm not going to assume that something is fake, just because it's possible. The simplest answer is that it is indeed genuine. He doesn't seem to have faked any of his other posts.In post 1059, Robbnva wrote:But some notes which 1. Can be faked 2. Could still be genuine and come from scum shouldn't change your mind on a person
The fact it does is highly suspicious.
Besides, I never really changed my mind on him. I'd already said that I was town reading him. I was just tempted to support his lynch. Which I'm surprised that THAT isn't what you find "highly suspicious."
I'll ignore the fact that you are skimming.In post 1031, Xkfyu wrote:
No no. I'm not saying that you believe that.In post 1030, Impoetic wrote:yes but I read the word scum in your post as town for some reason. Also one scummy post isn't enough for me to determine whether he's most likely to be scum compared to other people;.......I'm actually leaning town on him, in fact.I'm just putting forth a risk vs reward scenario for us to discuss.
The game is starting to become stagnant, so I'm trying to manufacture some thoughts and discussion from people.
Anyways, I can't really point to an exact place where my read officially changed from null to town. Nevertheless, the town read has never been so strong to where I would be shocked to see him flip scum. Hence the willingness to, at least, discuss the possibility of lynching a town read.
Not to mention the fact that I just have don't have enough solid scum reads, which is disconcerting.-
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Lol I'd say that Sonrio is more active than Tam though, if only by a little.In post 1080, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Means u should lynch an inactive...like SonrioIn post 1079, Xkfyu wrote:Not to mention the fact that I just have don't have enough solid scum reads, which is disconcerting.-
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Ok, but who do you want to lynch.In post 1082, Sonrio wrote:I thought jarjardrinks was voting to put pressure on me now its a scumread?
Anyway ive got another person to add to my TOWN CIRCLE
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For his reason to unvote me, and his calmness. I like him. Please be town.-
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He's right, actually. Poetic unvoted in 1019.In post 1086, JarJarDrinks wrote:In post 1085, Bacde wrote:Also TAM was never at L-1 he was at L-2
After this count, Xy and I both voted and I didn't see any unvotes.In post 1000, Nahdia wrote:Tam (4): Bacde, JaeReed, MURDERCAT, Impoetic-
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Any other reads?In post 1090, Sonrio wrote:Idk ill probably end up on the tam lynch but i dont like jar-
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