Mini Normal 1609: The Case Of Doctor Pepper (Game Over)

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:51 am

In post 2561, Doogal121 wrote:
In post 2557, Wake1 wrote:Can BBT tell us the # of posts in the Mason PT?

The timestamps? The quotes?

It's in the thread somewhere, already went over.

Neighbor PT or Mason PT?

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:53 am

In post 2560, Doogal121 wrote: TTH is white knighting BBT way too strong for my tastes.

FG whiteknighting TTH.

Thoughts?

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:57 am

It's either BBT or TTH for me.

If one flips Town, lynch the other.

The end.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:01 am

Anyone else find the major shift between VCs 1.23 and 1.24 odd?

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:01 am

In post 2569, Anatole Kuragin wrote:and if they're both town?

Blame the mod/NRG for Setup.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:06 am

Remember when TTH said she was serious when she voted herself, and I told it holds no weigh b/c she could just unvote herself, and then she later unvoted herself?

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:07 am

Yeah. BBT's Scum-evading.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:09 am

In post 2157, TellTaleHeart wrote:
Right. I'm telling you all not to lynch me today, that's why I'm talking about who to shoot.

*sigh* You are no help, Wake.

While unvoting herself and trying to lynch somebody else.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:12 am

In post 2575, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I would engage with you in discussion if I thought your posts hold any merit. Luckily for you, I don't.

My posts do have merit. You simply don't want to engage me.

In post 2576, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 2571, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2569, Anatole Kuragin wrote:and if they're both town?

Blame the mod/NRG for Setup.

Oh, Wake...
*sigh*

Stop with the theatrics and actually talk instead of being snarky and Anti-Town. If you disagree then say why.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:22 am

In post 2579, TellTaleHeart wrote:
Wake wrote:Stop with the theatrics and actually talk instead of being snarky and Anti-Town. If you disagree then say why.

I've given up trying to get through to you, Wake, and the thing I quoted actually perfectly summarizes the reason why.

You're telling me that if BBT and I instantly flipped town
right now
, you would blame someone else for you being wrong? Is that what you're saying?

Your question is framed poorly.

The idea that all of these claimed roles exist and that all of you are Town and that it shouldn't be questioned or suspected is ludicrous. Why wouldn't I question it? The Setup, even if factual, in spite of both of your collective scumminess, does not make it reasonable to think everyone in it is Town.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:24 am

In post 2580, massive wrote:Also, weren't you looking for better engagement from a bunch of people? Because I see you just talking to the same old same old.

I've noticed for a few posts that you've been trying to redirect my attention.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:26 am

In post 2580, massive wrote:
How about: Rather than do that, we just let her tell us who she WOULD kill via vengeful, and then we just lynch them? Because that way we're actually up a townie.

That'd work, if she was also confirmed by the Mod.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:28 am

In post 2570, Wake1 wrote:Anyone else find the major shift between VCs 1.23 and 1.24 odd?

Doogal? Boonskiies?

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:31 am

Let's see if BBT hammers Jagged.

I'll only lynch one of BBT, TTH, or FG today. Flips may change this for Day 2.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:32 am

Curiosity abounds.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:37 am

BBT, if you and TTH don't die tonight, will that shake your trust in TTH being Town? Vice versa goes to BBT.

Especially if someone besides them dies tonight. Why wouldn't Scum attempt to NK a claimed Mason or Vengeful Neighbor?

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:40 am

Hm. BBT & TTH both went after Boonskiies in 1.13. They're now coming for Anatole since 1.24-1.26 onwards.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:40 am

I'm Town as Hell by the way.

I may not always be right, but I give a damn about getting answers.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:43 am

In post 2593, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I may be slightly suspicious of TTH if she doesn't die N1. This is mainly due to the timing of her claim though.

Having said that, I don't see scum ever claiming vengeful. It just doesn't make sense.

1) Scum claims Vengeful Neighbor.
2) Votes self to appear genuine.
3) Partner argues to not use ability. Hold it/not use it.
4) Still basks in Not-Getting-Voted-B/C-of-Claim land.
5) Unvotes self.
6) Continues to persist in game until mid-IQ players take notice.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:45 am

In post 2593, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I may be slightly suspicious of TTH if she doesn't die N1. This is mainly due to the timing of her claim though.

Having said that, I don't see scum ever claiming vengeful. It just doesn't make sense.

I suspect you're Scum.

If Scum don't attempt to NK you, I will come for you Day 2.

Why? Because why wouldn't Scum try to kill a claimed Mason?

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:50 am

I'm attracted to Scummy play like a shark is drawn to fresh blood in the water.

You have done many, many suspicious things in this game which have brought me frothing-at-the-mouth to you.

If you don't now want to be Scumhunted by me, do not do scummy things. This includes deflection, evasion, defensiveness, etc.

As was told to me in the past; "You have no one to blame but yourself for your own scummy behavior."

Do not blame me for stalking your scent.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:52 am

I don't apologize for seeking answers.

No one's ever apologized for mislynching me when I was Town.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:54 am

In post 2603, Jagged Appliance wrote:Is no one willing to drop the hammer?

I learned from the last Micro I was in to not hammer someone whom I don't have a good-enough suspicion of.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:57 am

The suspense is enough to make me explode tonight.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:06 am

If Scum is playing a game of chicken with me, so they can try using it against me Day 2, I'll not fall for that trap again.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:57 am

In post 2620, massive wrote:
In post 2616, Wake1 wrote:If Scum is playing a game of chicken with me, so they can try using it against me Day 2, I'll not fall for that trap again.

Do you have a conspiracy theory for every Mafia game scenario?

In post 2618, Jagged Appliance wrote:massive or TTH is gonna have to make a decision.

I hate the JA train. HATE IT. I especially don't like seeing Boon and Flubber and Titus all on it. But I will hammer at deadline in order to avoid no-lynch. Anyone wants to convince me on the AK train, I'm open.

Ever lost as Town and wake up realizing "OH, that's what they were doing..."?

Yeah. That's happened to me more than a few times over the years.

Forgive me for questioning and doubting as much as I can, while weighing and analyzing as many posts and interactions as am able.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:10 pm

Is that a hammer?

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:10 pm

Nope, not a hammer.

Wake1 · Mon Sep 29, 2014 3:12 pm

BBT if you are indeed Mason do not follow FG's advice.

Let's say you're a Mason. You don't know TTH is Scum, so you could screw your Mason partner.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:38 pm

BBT, to me, is now confTown.

We lynch TTH next.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:38 pm

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

Wake1 · Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:41 pm

Eyes on FakeGod and Rufflig, too.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:21 pm

...

I would rather the posts be shared post-by-post, so everyone knows

exactly

what's up.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:53 pm

Which is why I'm asking them to quote the posts here, instead of giving summaries.

I'd rather see the vase than be told what it looks like. I think you would know this, FG.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:40 am

I'm up for lynching FakeGod for peddling that BS that I'm somehow responsible for outing BBT's fakeclaim when I was simply doing what I'm supposed to do: asking questions. I don't really trust his shtick about me being a solid Town read to him, and I think it's a bunch of bunk to manipulate me. Methinks it'll all-too-conveniently change when Scum-FG has better control on this game. A few dead Scum tried that shtick with me before and failed.

VOTE: FakeGod

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:41 am

Did I put BBT to L1 when he claimed Mason?

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:15 am

Well for one I'm feeling that certain players are ignoring me, which is unfortunate. GC didn't seem to want to listen or engage with much if any of my posts, either. Another thing that I'm feeling is that the wagon on JA was Scum-motivated, and that I was absolutely right about it being wrong, although no one listened. I do question Flubber's jumping in to defend FG from me. I'm not sure what I should think of that movement.

I know I'm Town, and I don't think DP would screw with us and use a Mafia Mason/other bastard elements. Since BBT is Town, he should be more willing to work with me. Engage a bit on ideas, you know? I want to understand what he thinks of TTH, and whether or not we should go ahead and lynch her. Also, if there's no protective role used on BBT tonight, he's basically dead because confTown.

FG, Scum had no certainty GC was a Mason.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:25 am

In post 2674, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2672, Wake1 wrote:FG, Scum had no certainty GC was a Mason.

How do you know this?

It wasn't exactly a state secret.

Rufflig and I figured it out yesterday. As Rufflig put it, it was just an exercise in ISO.

Did he claim or crumb being a Mason, FakeGod?

The reason I'm asking is because it wasn't apparent to me, nor should it have been, if one is a Mason. As Mason you should strive to remain latent. I didn't get the feeling that he was a Mason. When you say you and Rufflig figured out he was a Mason, after just reading my post that there was no certainty GC was Scum, it makes me feel that you and he are Scum.

I'm going to have to review your ISOs.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:41 am

In post 2677, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2676, Wake1 wrote:The reason I'm asking is because it wasn't apparent to me

It's because you're not reading.

Had you gone back and read the VCs/ISOs, it would have been very apparent who the second mason was.

I can't agree with you there, because I have been reading this thread. I forget a lot of the bickering and nonsense, though.
If you would, FakeGod, please show me (actually show me) how it was very apparent who the 2nd Mason was.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:01 am

Well that's odd.

FG still blames me for outing BBT even though I didn't even put him at L1.

Then he says it was very apparent that GC was a Mason even though it wasn't.

He refuses to help at all and is basically being anti-Town. Can't tell if it's a ruse.

It's starting to feel like one.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:16 am

I didn't get that impression.

It wasn't obvious, and it's not honest to assume others should have known.

If he heavily implied it, I would like to be shown where he did so. FG refuses to help. Maybe you will help?

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:25 am

I may be aggravating and relentless at times, but it's because I'm Town hunting for Scum.

It's when I'm not aggravating but pleasant that you need to suspect I'm Scum.

TTH, are you willing to quote some of the posts from the PT?

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:26 am

TTH the reason I don't take that as evidence is because Rufflig also mentioned that he absolutely refused to vote BBT. It's in the ISO, too.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:30 am

I want to know exactly why players rammed through that mislynch.

People did not listen when I said the wagon was crap, so I want

answers

.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:37 am

In post 2689, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 2688, Wake1 wrote:I want to know exactly why players rammed through that mislynch.

People did not listen when I said the wagon was crap, so I want
answers
.

Anyone in particular you want answers from?

Basically, everyone.

I have a lot of questions to ask people, but I feel a bit like some players flat-out refuse to answer them.

For one, I'd like to know what you feel of TTH's alignment currently. SInce you're a Mason, and your Mason partner is dead, do you feel the Neighbor you're attached to is also Town? Is there anything you could of said or done that may have given her the impression of who your partner is?

Neither of you died, either.

GC died. WHy was GC killed instead of you? Why wasn't TTH killed?

Basically I feel like I'm seeing things that are happening, then I get ignored, and then happen.

"Guys, guys, don't lynch JA. It's a mislynch."
~JA is a VT and is mislynched.

"Guys, guys, it'd be really suspicious if BBT and TTH survive the Night."
~GC, Mason, found dead and BBT and TTH survive.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:41 am

In post 2691, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 2688, Wake1 wrote:I want to know exactly why players rammed through that mislynch.

People did not listen when I said the wagon was crap, so I want
answers
.

I, for one, think Flubbernugget is an excellent person to demand those from.

I would rather not narrow my target field. (Everyone including BBT is not exempt from questioning and interaction.)

Because BBT is confTown in my eyes, I am hoping to do most of my business with him this game, because I feel I'm not going to be lied to.

In post 2692, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 2687, Wake1 wrote:TTH the reason I don't take that as evidence is because Rufflig also mentioned that he absolutely refused to vote BBT. It's in the ISO, too.

Counterpoint: Post 191

Was 190 before or after he refused to vote BBT? If before, then it could easily be Scum trying to blend in. Countless times as Scum I've done that.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:42 am

In post 1854, The Rufflig wrote:I refuse to lynch BBT, today.

My counterpoint to your counterpoint, TTH.

This is what made me feel Rufflig was Mason. Not GC.

Do you reckon Rufflig was trying to make himself seem as something he wasn't?

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:02 am

In post 2696, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 2693, Wake1 wrote:
Basically, everyone.

I have a lot of questions to ask people, but I feel a bit like some players flat-out refuse to answer them.

For one, I'd like to know what you feel of TTH's alignment currently. SInce you're a Mason, and your Mason partner is dead, do you feel the Neighbor you're attached to is also Town? Is there anything you could of said or done that may have given her the impression of who your partner is?

Neither of you died, either.

GC died. WHy was GC killed instead of you? Why wasn't TTH killed?

Basically I feel like I'm seeing things that are happening, then I get ignored, and then happen.

"Guys, guys, don't lynch JA. It's a mislynch."
~JA is a VT and is mislynched.

"Guys, guys, it'd be really suspicious if BBT and TTH survive the Night."
~GC, Mason, found dead and BBT and TTH survive.

Who in particular? You must have stronger feelings about some people over others on the wagon.

Particularly TTH, FakeGod, Rufflig, Anatole, and Flubbernugget. Am very interested in hearing more from Titus. The others who I'm forgetting simply aren't contributing enough to be noteworthy.

Wake, I really don't mean to cause offence but I imagine (and it's certainly the case for me) that people don't want to discuss issues with you because you're not a pleasant person to engage with. You really need to work on your interpersonal skills and maybe people will engage more and enjoy playing with you.

You know, I'm sort of thinking it's because I've been grilling you because you haven't particularly been willing to engage with me openly and thoroughly in the past. I, well, I rarely if ever hear negative responses from people who were willing to work with me. In fact most of them said it was a pleasant experience. None of them ever reluctantly shared reads or thoughts with me, either.

Here, I'm going to give it another go.

Mm.

I think TTH is town. It's not a strong read, but it's strong enough that I wouldn't even consider lynching her today. I'm also in agreement with FG and TTH in that I felt it was pretty obvious that GC was my partner so anybody could have guessed that.

So now, in your mind, she's not going to lynched today, either? Why?

Shooting GC was a guess. Scum didn't know, so they had to have made an educated guess based on whatever their reads told them. FakeGod said it was very apparent, yet that doesn't mesh with it 'being a guess' that anybody could have guessed at. How long do you reckon TTH will be allowed to go untested? I find it unlikely that the Masons' Vengeful Neighbor is also Town.

I also agreed that JA was a bad lynch, hence why I refused to join it.

Mm.

Why is it suspicious to you that TTH and myself survived the night?

I would ask you why it would not be suspicious.

Assuming you and TTH are Town, then a Mason-Neighbor and a Vengeful-Neighbor would be threats to Scum.

I suppose Scum could have chosen to leave you two alive to give me reason to come after you out of suspicion, but them successfully killing one Mason essentially confirms the other. They would have to kill you tonight, BBT. I personally do not think there would be a Doctor or another protective role in this game... If TTH is also Town, Scum would have to kill you first, and then kill TTH afterwards. I don't think Scum would want to see TTH lynched because there is the possibility she could plug one of them. I have no problem lynching TTH because it would 1) let me know if she's been trying to deceive me and 2) harness her claimed power and let her use it as she wishes. On the 2nd point, however, she may not use her power wisely.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:04 am

Also, I'm not comfortable leaving TTH to 3-player LyLo.

If I'm not mistaken, she cannot use her claimed power if mislynched at that point. If she can, then hm.. There's also the risk that, if she's Scum pretending to be Vengeful, she'll end up winning.

I'm thinking in advance.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:18 am

In post 2705, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2703, Wake1 wrote:Also, I'm not comfortable leaving TTH to 3-player LyLo.

If I'm not mistaken, she cannot use her claimed power if mislynched at that point. If she can, then hm.. There's also the risk that, if she's Scum pretending to be Vengeful, she'll end up winning.

I'm thinking in advance.

When did she say she cannot use her power in 3p LyLo?

I never said anything about her saying so.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:49 am

In post 2708, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2707, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2705, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2703, Wake1 wrote:Also, I'm not comfortable leaving TTH to 3-player LyLo.

If I'm not mistaken
, she cannot use her claimed power if mislynched at that point. If she can, then hm.. There's also the risk that, if she's Scum pretending to be Vengeful, she'll end up winning.

I'm thinking in advance.

When did she say she cannot use her power in 3p LyLo?

I never said anything about her saying so.

???

so you just assumed she can't use her power in LyLo?

I have never seen a game in which vengeful suddenly loses his/her power in LyLo.

The bold.

What are you doing?

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:00 am

BBT, does any part of you suspect that FakeGod is Scum?

I feel he is trying to take my posts out of context. I can give you proof that I caught Aeronaut when he was distorting my posts, too. One of my strong-points is being acutely aware when someone tries manipulating the meaning of my posts.

Also, if you would, what do you think of FG's 'solid town read' on me? It's difficult for me to believe that when in the same hand he's not really willing to engage or aid in Scumhunting efforts, as well as his latest treatment of my posts. I really should stop being so conservative and start pushing him for answers.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:01 am

In post 2712, FakeGod wrote:Um.

D2 is pretty much already decided ever since you made your 2706.

...

I have the faint feeling this is an attempt to guide a quick mislynch.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:11 am

In post 2710, FakeGod wrote:Helping a lost player find his way.

How about you?

I want you to answer me, FG.

At least twice I've felt you've been looking for chinks in my posts, in order to try and mislynch me in the future. I can assure you that will never happen. I am sure killing me would be a real blast, but I suspect you're better off trying to lynch me. You will try, but I will be very vocal and will make it a nightmare for Scum to try and accomplish.

Regarding my 2703, you

twisted

"misunderstood" my post in 2705 by asking me when she said she could not use her ability. I

never

said anything about TTH saying

anything

regarding her ability. That came from

you

. Then in your next post, 2708, you again "misunderstood" by questioning-implying that I assumed she couldn't use her power at LyLo, even when it was painfully clear that I included in that very sentence "if I'm not mistaken."

I want you to explain yourself. If you don't, and you think you can simply not answer me, I will grill you with this issue until one of us in this game is gone. Take note, because you've been forewarned. I'll press this issue until you tell me exactly what you were doing there.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:21 pm

In post 2721, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Because I'm basically a VT with GC dead.

If TTH's and Boon's claims are true (and they're not scum), why would scum not kill one of those two?

With GC dead, you're basically an Innocent Child. An unconfirmed VT is not the same as an Innocent Child.

I don't see why Scum wouldn't attempt to kill that next. It doesn't seem likely there'd be a protective role in this game, too, from where I'm standing, personally. I feel it's unlikely there's a Doctor at play. If one is, stay quiet, please.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:03 pm

I will address this tomorrow.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:16 am

I want a FakeGod lynch. However, for Day 2, I could settle for Flubber's head.

I'm leery of a few others, but I don't have time right now to voice my thoughts.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:19 am

I don't think you're Mafia Mason atm, or that DP would use a Bastard game. If somehow you're Scum I am going to be frustrated.

I should really ask for an FG/TTH lynch should Flubber flip Town. BBT, I'm willing to hear your feelings on why Flubber's Scum. The reason I say this is because I want to see if they resonate with my reasons.

Tentatively, VOTE: Flubbernugget.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:21 am

Very latest thoughts on Titus, FakeGod, and TTH, BBT? And Boonskiies.

My gut tells me at least one Scum is within those four.

If you could pick based on what you feel/know right now, which one of those four would you consider lynching, and why?

Wake1 · Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:22 am

In post 2771, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I have stated my reasons Wake, only a few posts ago.

This is a normal game. Bastard Masons are not possible.

Links

really

help.

I do not have the luxury of time.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:24 am

I too feel Flubber's been lurking.

But, then again, I could say that of Doogal, Anatole, Rufflig, and massive. I keep forgetting they're in the game.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:25 am

BBT, if neither you nor TTH die, how do you reckon we should feel about that?

What would be the best course of action?

Wake1 · Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:26 am

I'm trusting you're Town, BBT. If by some trick you're Scum I will always grill you in these game.

Let's work together, stay busy sharing thoughts while we have the time.

You're helping me change my mind on certain players, and I'm hoping I can maybe change your mind on certain players, too.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 06, 2014 10:30 am

If he doesn't, either?

I feel TTH isn't being honest. Boonskiies is iffy as well. I'd like to get into the Boonskiies issue as well as some things Titus and others have said. However, I have to leave in 3 minutes for work. No time. I'll be back this evening. You're probably going to die tonight, so you should really get into the discussions here, and I'll try my best, too.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:56 pm

Rufflig, when I said links I meant BBT's reasoning for finding Flubber Scum.

FakeGiod's being too agreeable when it comes to various lynches.

If 2768 is directed towards me, you're doing it wrong. Please ask correctly.

BBT, you know it's reasonable for me to wonder why you're so certain you won't die.

Wake1 · Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:07 am

In post 2790, Wake1 wrote:Rufflig, when I said links I meant BBT's reasoning for finding Flubber Scum.

FakeGiod's being too agreeable when it comes to various lynches.

If 2768 is directed towards me, you're doing it wrong. Please ask correctly.

BBT, you know it's reasonable for me to wonder why you're so certain you won't die.

Wake1 · Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:45 pm

I would not mind seeing the conclusion of that wagon.

Still timeblocked, there should be a small swath of time tomorrow where I can post.

Wake1 · Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:15 pm

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:23 am

Get ready, FakeGod.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:32 am

FoS @ Doogal.

Didn't like his messy and dishonest read on me, and it's telling me he's Scummy.

I'll be back in the game soon, and I'll be testing FG's honesty about his 'solid Town read' on me.

Gotta take care of some business elsewhere, first, and then I'll come back here and contribute.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:29 am

In post 2858, Doogal121 wrote:
In post 2814, FakeGod wrote:ah well

town is in strong position nevertheless

I just need to identify one more town player, and town will auto-win.

FG, can you elaborate on this statement? And, what lynch would you recommend in order to confirm another townie?
The only one I can think of is Lynching TTH and that could confirm Wake....

Not sure what this means.

Currently I'm reevaluating the way I play. I contributed a lot to this game in the past with hyper-analytical/large posts, yet I feel they don't get read or absorbed. So, I don't know what to do, and in spite of feeling a bit miffed that Town doesn't seem to care what I feel or think on the matter, I'm not willing to replace out of this game. That said, I have 8 interviews, 95 hours of work, and over 600 miles to drive this week. And a mother without insurance who may be coming down with fallopian cancer like her mother and four other sisters. Yeah. Part of the reason why I have very little time. I'm bitching a bit. Please forgive that.

So I keep wanting to respond to certain posts, and then I either forget or get preoccupied. Titus mentioned something about a gambit but I don't know if she meant me or Boonskiies, or what she even meant. Haven't been able to get a good read on her. I do not trust FG because he's refusing to engage me directly, and his latest flurry of very fast posts gives me reason to pause and think. BBT is Town unless DP did something to screw with us, but I feel he doesn't care for what I have to say. Haven't found time to read massive's, Doogal's, and others' posts.

Oddly enough, I don't like how nobody's voting or Scumreading me. Hey, I'm just being honest here. Usually as Town (while being pro-Town) I get at least one or two votes on me which I brush off while dishing out content. The fact that there's no votes and really not all that much suspicion shoved towards me sorta makes me nervous. The reason I pester FakeGod for saying I'm a solid town read so damned early on is because he could be trying to placate me, and then change it really quickly later on. I think that happened to me at least once or twice over the years.

Right now I'm chugging 3 cups of coffee just to summon the energy to type this up. Frankly it's working and I'm starting to feel better, like I've got some life energy in me (please note that I have ADD and can be incredibly disorganized at times). Back to BBT, he seems to have missed both times where I wondered about him saying he will not get killed tonight. I feel like I should have some sort of answer there, because I don't understand it. I don't want to piss players off, but I don't think it's the right the to let unanswered things go down the road.

Anyways, I'm going to post this bit so far and chug another mug of coffee. If I have to consume lots of caffeine just to get on top of this game then I guess I'll have to do that.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:40 am

In post 2864, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I did answer you Wake

Alright. If you did then I missed it. That's not your fault if you did.

Would you be willing to say why you're so sure you will not be killed tonight? Please? That way I won't have to scour the thread to find it (another reason why I ask is because I don't like misunderstanding other players' posts).

I doubt there's a protective role in this game. Yet again, if there is one, please keep it under wraps. Since you're basically a confirmed Mason, you're like an Innocent Child role. That is very dangerous for Scum. They would have to kill you soon, and the later they wait with it the more dangerous it becomes for them. In the completed games I play, Scum pretty much always kills the basically-confirmed Townies over the Unsures.

If you don't die tonight I won't understand it, especially if TTH doesn't die either. I also feel it'd be overpowered for there to be two Masons in a 13-player game, while being connected to a presumably-Town Vengeful Neighbor, and a Tracker. From my experience with the NRG, I don't feel they'd allow that and possibly more into the game.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:41 am

*That's not your fault if I did.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:43 am

I'd prefer it if some players shot some questions with links at me, please. I'd like to be engaged a bit.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:10 am

BBT, do you think anyone else has been crumbing their roles?

If you suspect so, please don't mention who. Some subtle things are just bothering me, but I don't want to anger players by asking too many questions.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:12 am

In post 2868, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
I am the lowest threat to scum out of the 3 of us.

I don't quite agree. Since you're like an IC now, people know you aren't lying. That means a

lot

. If I were Scum I would try to NK you because I'd want people to keep guessing and not having someone they can place trust in.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:21 am

In post 2873, Doogal121 wrote:@Wake. If TTH flips Scum, I think the "How do we handle a problem like Wake?" slip from the neighbor thread pretty much confirms you as town, does it not?

...

Um, no...?

I don't think TTH exactly said it like that... If she did say it exactly like that, would you be awesome and quote that exact post again?

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:26 am

In post 2873, Doogal121 wrote:@Wake. If TTH flips Scum, I think the "How do we handle a problem like Wake?" slip from the neighbor thread pretty much confirms you as town, does it not?

Hey...

Now wait a minute...

She said in BBT's 115 this: "Have you played with Wake88 before and how do you go about tackling a read like that?"

TTH didn't say "how do we handle a problem like Wake?" She asked BBT if he played with me before, and how to go about tackling my read.

...

VOTE: Doogal

I would really appreciate your clarification on this, please.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:36 am

In post 2877, Doogal121 wrote:

TTH
Post #3 (ISO) » Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:19 pm
I haven't had any games with him, but I've read a couple games with Wake88 and I've seen his posts around the forum (particularly Mafia Discussion). To my understanding, he's a pretty divisive player.

Have you played with Wake88 before and how do you go about tackling a read like that?

@Wake. Why did she pick you out of all people? Would this post look out of place in a scum PT?

I sort of feel like you're trying to deceive me into mislynching TTH, because you're actually Scum. If it pleases everyone else, I would be comfortable lynching you today.

While I do wonder why she would single me out, and that it's possible she could be manipulating her posts, I have enough sensibility to accept that she

could

be Town making that statement about me. That you flubbed on what she said about me is what sets me onto your scent, so at least for the meantime I'll take my time hunting you.

Do you acknowledge that what she said and what you say she said are two different things?

Why did you do that?

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:46 am

In post 2879, Doogal121 wrote:It was how I remembered it.

Now, assuming she flips scum, her post looks more like it was put in the wrong PT, no? Therefore we can also confirm that you are not in her scum PT, right? Wouldn't that confirm you as town?

If I were scum, I would know that the vengeful claim is valid, right? Why would I advocate a mislynch on her when we could just have her night killed?

Well... I think you're remembering it wrongly. It's not how you remembered it, and I think you would be wise to backtrack and acknowledge that discrepancy, instead of reacting in different, fascinating ways in front of this monstrous shark. I... I know that's not how it was, and I'm thinking you Scumslipped, because you're trying to get me to mislynch TTH. If you do flip Scum then I am more inclined to believe her innocence.

And I am acutely aware that you glossed over my post with a brief answer and then asked me four questions in rapid-succession in order to redirect my attention. Hrm...

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:49 am

BBT, I feel there's a discrepancy in Doogal's post regarding TTH.

I think we should put more pressure on him. I don't think it would hurt.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:50 am

If he were Scum, and did manage to lead a successful mislynch on a Vengeful Townie, he could force her to use her ability and possibly kill another Townie.

There is more of a likelihood she could end up Venging a Townie than a Mafioso.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:54 am

I'm not trying to provoke you, BBT. I feel you're being cynical, and that there's got to be something to this. It's irking me how he's trying to assign a different meaning to what TTH actually said. If you said something, but then someone later took your post and made it out to mean something else, wouldn't that be taking it out of context? I feel that Scum is more likely than Town to distort things, and take things out of context. If I am wrong please help me try to understand a little better this facet of Mafia gameplay.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:58 am

I feel that Doogal is trying to persuade me to lynch TTH, and that he did in fact take her words out of context.

I also feel that FakeGod is resonating/influencing me into wanting to lynch Doogal, because of what he said about TTH.

Both are, in my fallible opinion, trying to influence me one way or another, indirectly. Whether one or both of them is Scum is the question.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:05 am

In post 2895, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wake, you don't believe town try to influence people to join their wagons?

No... I feel they do. I do that routinely. But I'm also aware that Scum try to do that, too. Doogal could be Scum, and trying to influence me to mislynch TTH. FakeGod, too, could be Scum trying to influence me to mislynch Doogal.

For today, at this moment, I'm a bit more comfortable lynching Doogal because he certainly did take TTH's PT post out of context, whereas FakeGod is resonating my feelings about Doogal. How do you think I should feel about these developments, BBT, and what do you think I should be doing about it?

*I'm trusting you're Town Mason.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:17 am

In post 2898, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I feel you're blowing something Doogal said way out of proportion. It is there in black and white for anyone to check and I don't feel the misrepresentation was on purpose.

I would much rather have you on the Flubber wagon.

But do you agree with me that he took what TTH said out of context? In my experience, it is more common for Scum than Town to do that... That is how I successfully caught and skewered Aeronaut and AdrienC in Sycamore Shuffle. Town should never take things out of context, because it's not honest or accurate. Personally I feel that's Scummy... I don't think it is ever in Town's best interest to misrepresent anything.

Also, BBT, I was hoping you could answer me on whether or not you think anyone else has been crumbing their roles. If Titus and FakeGod could chime in on this, too, I would be grateful. All three of you, I think, can't be Scum, so maybe, hopefully, I can establish a better rapport with at least one Town slot among you three. If all three of you are Scum then I may have my work cut out for me.

In post 2899, Titus wrote:The lynch candidates should be FG AK TTH or Rufflig barring a scumclaim.

Titus, since you're here I would be happy to have you engage me a bit, please.

I asked you a little earlier what you meant about that gambit post, but you haven't really said anything about it since.

Additionally, it would help me better understand your slot if you'd tell me why you don't think Doogal is a lynch candidate for today. TTH's opinion on Doogal's misrepresentation of her words and your subsequent not-putting-Doogal-into-your-lynchpile would have, I think, a lot of value to it.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:20 am

In post 2900, Doogal121 wrote:
In post 2888, Wake1 wrote:If he were Scum, and did manage to lead a successful mislynch on a Vengeful Townie, he could force her to use her ability and possibly kill another Townie.

There is more of a likelihood she could end up Venging a Townie than a Mafioso.

@Wake. Let's assume I'm scum for a second. If you were TTH, who would you attack as vengeful? Probably the person who started your wagon, no?

@FG, She's a new player and wouldn't have access to Scum PT during the day. I think she tried to gambit just to use her power.

I cannot say because I am not TTH, and my opinions and style of play undoubtedly differs from hers. Me speculating on what she might do probably wouldn't be that helpful. That's why I'd like her to weigh in on this soon.

What I can say is that if she is indeed what she says she is, it's not guaranteed she'd Venge the player who started her wagon.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:27 am

In post 2905, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I do agree he took it out of context, but I don't think it was intentional, nor do I think he stood to gain a whole lot from doing so.

I don't like that you keep pressing this crumb issue. You should drop it.

I genuinely can't believe you're still considering me as scum. You would be a nightmare to play with in a theme/bastard game.

If he did unintentionally misrepresent what TTH said, which I'm not sure is even possible, then he should backtrack and acknowledge his misrepresentation. That he doesn't do so makes me wonder why.

I wouldn't want to play in a Bastard game. I'd probably go nuts from paranoia.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:29 am

The definition of 'misrepresent' is this: give a false or misleading account of the nature of.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:30 am

Alright.

So BBT says you unintentional misrepresented TTH's words.

You Doogal clarified by saying you misremembered her words.

I'm getting two conflicting accounts...

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:47 am

But misrepresentation is not the same as misremembering something. 'Misremember' isn't even a word.

When you misrepresent something, it's deliberate. If you don't remember things exactly as they happened, then it can be unintentional.

That you and Doogal have conflicting views on this is, I feel, noteworthy.

Wake1 · Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:46 pm

This is like, what, the second time FakeGod's rapid-fired posts? Does he usually get nutso-nervous when Scum??? What the hell, man.

I'm also becoming alright with a Titus lynch today, seeing as my questions pointed towards her go unanswered. Hm...

Wake1 · Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:58 pm

I'll be online tomorrow.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:08 am

I for one, want FakeGod lynched.

He's been acting strangely, and is one of my Scumreads.

If he votes himself, well, that's one thing Scum does to deny Town information.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:12 am

My gut's still bothering me about BBT, but I don't see how he can't be a Mason. I don't think there's anything in the 1 unique slot DP was given to do something insidious like that.

At least 4 other players are being very suspicious to me, and almost nobody is voting me or trying to dump suspicion on me. It's rather peculiar, and probably deliberate.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:12 am

*Looking for latest VC.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:14 am

FG, you've been deliberately ignoring me much of the game.

It's something that you now tell me to not ignore

you

.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:17 am

You tried blaming me for getting BBT to claim Mason after he claimed Neighbor, when I wasn't even the one who put him at L-1, and I was doing what I was supposed to do by unraveling loose threads.

I really should vote you. You've been all over the place with your weird antics this game.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:21 am

I'm not an Innocent Child, you know.

You can stop treating me like one and engage me.

It's not like I'd chew your face off or anything.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:22 am

FakeGod is goading me to vote him.

VOTE: FakeGod

Let's see what happens.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:23 am

Why did you post in such rapid succession at least twice, FG?

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:54 am

So why am I solid Townie again?

I haven't exactly had time to play much.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:12 am

Why can't the actual Night 2 posts from the PTs be quoted and posted here, like they were before? Why must we settle for a summary instead?

I'd like to actually read them myself.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:18 am

In post 3042, FakeGod wrote:By meta.

I already said this.

Well, oddly enough, I question this, because anyone who remotely knows me knows I change my playstyle constantly, and can manipulate it at will.

Which brings us back to me wondering why you're so darned certain, especially when I'm voting you.

...

And another thing that makes zero sense is how BBT is hardcore-crumbing how he won't be killed tonight, which puts the whole speculated Setup in turmoil.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:24 am

*One of those moments where you've considered a fresh new possibility the other players haven't considered, yet is unsure whether or not it should be revealed.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:39 am

A FakeGod lynch would yield the most information.

Who else has reservations?

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:44 am

In post 3078, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 3075, Wake1 wrote:A FakeGod lynch would yield the most information.

Who else has reservations?

What information do you expect to get from a flip in either direction?

I can't know until the flip does indeed happen.

FakeGod has, as you know, been acting strangely and posting very frequently this game.

If he were to be lynched and flip Scum, we would all need to dig up all of his posts, for analysis.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:55 am

In post 3084, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 3082, Wake1 wrote:
In post 3078, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 3075, Wake1 wrote:A FakeGod lynch would yield the most information.

Who else has reservations?

What information do you expect to get from a flip in either direction?

I can't know until the flip does indeed happen.

FakeGod has, as you know, been acting strangely and posting very frequently this game.

If he were to be lynched and flip Scum, we would all need to dig up all of his posts, for analysis.

And what if he were to flip town? It would be a complete bust?

That doesn't sound like an "information" lynch. That sounds like terrible strategy.

It's not my intention to seem like I'm insulting your intelligence when I tell you there is so much more you're not considering at the moment.

Should he flip Town, we can utilize much of what he has said. Then we look at every single one of his interactions.

From my vantage point, and experience, FakeGod is definitely not playing like his usual self. That you seem to not acknowledge this does make me wonder a bit more about your alignment.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:58 am

FG's possibly engaging in a ploy as Scum to argue and insult a Mason, with the aim of gaining Towncred from said Mason via reverse psychology.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:08 am

In post 3101, TellTaleHeart wrote:You know, Wake, for someone who bills himself as a "truth seeker" you seem to want to let really important things go. Here, let me pose a couple questions to you:
Why is Anatole a failed wagon?
and
Why was Green Crayons nightkilled last night?

We now know that town was leading the Anatole wagon yesterday and, regardless of your read on me, we can objectively say that it was mostly composed of town. So, what went wrong? Why did it go away? Why did Green Crayons die over FakeGod? Even if you didn't think FakeGod was scum, there can be other reasons.

Your attempt to discredit me is noted. You did in this post say that it seems I want to let really important things go. That's dishonest, and you aren't paying attention to the fact that I'm severely constrained by time. You fail to consider that an honest Townie might not have the time to press issues that your yourself think are important. Need I remind you that you yourself haven't seemed much inclined to press any of the issues I've brought up alongside me. I'm patient, though, so we'll see.

As for the last NK issue, I don't understand why GC was killed over you or BBT. GC did not pay much attention to my posts. He apparently ignored most of them. If he made an effort to engage, I might have cared more for what he had to say, and what he did in the game.

At the moment, since BBT declares he will not die tonight, I'm questioning whether or not you're actually Vengeful. I'll have to see how GC reacted in the midst of your votes.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:14 am

1) FG has me as solid Town.
2) Says it's meta and doesn't elaborate.
3) BBT says he won't be killed tonight.
4) FG wrongly accuses me for Scumhunting.
5) Titus is reacting extremely carefully to my questions.
6) Who is massive?
7) Doogal vs me on his bit about TTH.
8) TTH says she's Vengeful Neighbor. Could be missing piece in BBT's assertions.
9) FG doesn't seem to admit I didn't put BBT @ L1.
10) It almost feels like there's a bomb just waiting to explode in this big mess.
11) Rufflig is forgettable. Sorry. I keep forgetting his presence.

*Ninja'd.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:15 am

Oh wow, I

did

forget Boonskiie's and Anatole's collective presence.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:16 am

TTH L1?

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:19 am

TTH, why does BBT imply he's invincible tonight?

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:25 am

In post 3147, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 3143, Wake1 wrote:TTH, why does BBT imply he's invincible tonight?

I'm not sure. I'm not sure if it's because he thinks there's a protective out there that will save him or if he thinks he's doing a bad job at a town leadership role.

Does it really matter?

Two a Mason, a Mason-Neighbor, a Neighbor-Doctor, a Tracker, and whatever else?

It might matter.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:26 am

*A Mason, a Mason-Neighbor, a Neighbor-Doctor, a Tracker, and whatever else?

It might matter.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:29 am

In post 3159, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 3153, Wake1 wrote:Two a Mason, a Mason-Neighbor, a Neighbor-Doctor, a Tracker, and whatever else?

It might matter.

You're talking to the wrong person about set-up speculation and balance.

Do you find anything to quibble about in the post of mine you've quoted?

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:31 am

BBT, name which three are Scum.

Same to TTH, FG, et aL.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:32 am

In post 3168, FakeGod wrote:FUCKING APOLOGIZE BBT

I don't care what the chances were.

YOU. SET. ME. UP.

And it's god's honest truth

Let's lynch this farce.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:33 am

In post 3166, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 3161, Anatole Kuragin wrote:I'm going to venture a guess that there are no night-active roles at all. I think that's sorta the theme with this setup.

So you think I'm vengeful scum?

Neighbor-Doctor, possibly.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:34 am

In post 3174, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 3171, Wake1 wrote:
In post 3166, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 3161, Anatole Kuragin wrote:I'm going to venture a guess that there are no night-active roles at all. I think that's sorta the theme with this setup.

So you think I'm vengeful scum?

Neighbor-Doctor, possibly.

Why would you even speculate someone is lying about NOT being doctor?

Please clarify this. Not liking how it's worded.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:35 am

In post 3176, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 3167, Wake1 wrote:BBT, name which three are Scum.

Flubber, Doogal and Titus/Wake/Boon.

I said 3, not 5.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:36 am

1) FG has me as solid Town.
2) Says it's meta and doesn't elaborate.
3) BBT says he won't be killed tonight.
4) FG wrongly accuses me for Scumhunting.
5) Titus is reacting extremely carefully to my questions.
6) Who is massive?
7) Doogal vs me on his bit about TTH.
8) TTH says she's Vengeful Neighbor. Could be missing piece in BBT's assertions.
9) FG doesn't seem to admit I didn't put BBT @ L1.
10) It almost feels like there's a bomb just waiting to explode in this big mess.
11) Rufflig is forgettable. Sorry. I keep forgetting his presence.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 8:49 am

1) FG has me as solid Town.
2) Says it's meta and doesn't elaborate.
3)

BBT says he won't be killed tonight.

4) FG wrongly accuses me for Scumhunting.
5) Titus is reacting extremely carefully to my questions.
6) Who is massive?
7) Doogal vs me on his bit about TTH.
8) TTH says she's Vengeful Neighbor. Could be missing piece in BBT's assertions.
9) FG doesn't seem to admit I didn't put BBT @ L1.
10) It almost feels like there's a bomb just waiting to explode in this big mess.
11) Rufflig is forgettable. Sorry. I keep forgetting his presence.
12) TTH vacillating between defending FG and wanting to kill herself.
13) BBT differs with FG on solid Town read.
14) FG hellbent on everyone apologizing.
15) BBT hellbent on voting Flubber, and calls FG on gambitting.
16) Titus refuses to answer question about an Iceproof gambit. Want answers on that.
17) FG really fucking hellbent on getting apologies.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:00 am

In post 2740, Titus wrote:
@Wake, iceproof townie gambit here?

This. I want you to explain this. Thoroughly.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:01 am

Let's see what happens.

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

I already know she won't kill FG if she is indeed Vengeful.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:04 am

Thread still open?

Good.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:06 am

In post 3215, Titus wrote:
In post 3213, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2740, Titus wrote:
@Wake, iceproof townie gambit here?

This. I want you to explain this. Thoroughly.

I thought you were the roleblocker in the mason roleblocker setup I wrongly thought. So I was asking you if I could fake being roleblocker to protect you.

That makes little sense.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:07 am

Watches drama unfold, yet again, on the rise and subsequent fall of TTH's wagon, because she's actually Scum with two other players.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:11 am

In post 3226, Titus wrote:I'll try again. The iceproof townie gambit, I faked my role to protect other people. So I wanted to again, fake being more powerful than I am to draw a nightkill away from the perceived roleblocker.

That's not the impression I got reading that bit in your 2740. It looked like you were implying either me or Boonskiies were involved in some sort of gambit. Fire and Ice had no Roleblocker, Titus.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:19 am

So, we gonna do this thing or not?

*FG's silence is noted.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:36 am

*Takes notes to fakeclaim Vengeful Townie the next time he's Scum.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:37 am

In post 3230, Anatole Kuragin wrote:This wagon isn't falling.

In post 3247, Anatole Kuragin wrote:UNVOTE: TTH

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:38 am

In post 3254, TellTaleHeart wrote:
In post 3251, Boonskiies wrote:It does matter. You talked interest in shooting AK because you have a scum read on him. If we lose you and your claim is legit, and AK flips scum, who do you think his partners would be?

You want me to make up something? I could, but I would be wasting my time writing it and your time reading it.

This is a Scumslip.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:41 am

If you're a Townie, you can still win even if you die.

Townies should always provide final reads and otherwise be active in a beneficial way even when close to being lynched. Just ask Ffery.

Scum tends to give up at that point and not care.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:43 am

Look at all this crap.

My words were spot on.

More dissembling to keep TTH from being lynched.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:46 am

FakeGod

&

TellTaleHeart

.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:47 am

In post 3270, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:AK, I would rather keep you alive.

I just think TTH changed her mind to Boon in an attempt to get votes off her. I really didn't like that post.

Do note she did something similar with me earlier in the game.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:51 am

I'm Townreading Boonskiies currently.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:57 am

All I can say is that I'm baffled with much of the ridiculous happenings in this game.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:15 am

In post 3289, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
Speaking of ridiculous - why did you ignore this wake?

I didn't ignore it. The game's fast-paced.

You are aware that BBT said he will not die tonight.

The only way he could say that is if he was told by TTH through their supposed Neighbor PT that she's a Doctor/some other protective role. Either BBT's BS'ing, or TTH is BS'ing.

Why are people ignoring this???

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:28 am

I said BBT is BS'ing about how he won't die tonight.

Aren't there any Townies in this game who are going to challenge a ridiculous statement like that?

That's like me saying I will not be killed tonight, and then expecting no one to question it. Hello???

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:30 am

Anatole's Scum for taking my posts out of context.

He's ignoring how BBT keeps saying he won't die tonight.

The only way BBT could say that is if he's either bluffing or BBT's not Vengeful but actually a Doc-Neighbor. Those are the only two possibilities.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:32 am

Very interesting.

TellTaleHeart & Anatole.

For those of you who are Townies, SEE how they're ignoring these things. Why won't they actually engage the issue on BBT's remarks about him saying he won't die?

Wake1 · Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:33 am

Have to leave for work. Be back later tonight.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 11, 2014 2:15 pm

I could settle for a Doogal lynch today.

Wake1 · Sat Oct 11, 2014 3:53 pm

Wake is busy with work. @massive

Not lynching Boonie today.

Your actions, while extremely odd, go largely unnoticed by average players. I would hope they catch on to your actions sooner rather than later. @TTH

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 5:19 am

Well, well, well. It's a fine, brisk Sunday morning.

Ebola is spreading. WE'RE ALL GON' DIE!!!!

One's mortality notwithstanding, fate has given me an opportunity to play the game today. And copious amounts of coffee. You may peruse my ideas as you wish and, if you'd like, subscribe to them as you deem necessary.

MmHm. Hm...

@Anatole Kuragin

I've not forgotten your specious vote on me good Sir. Indeed BBT claimed Mason, and GC dies as one. Barring some nefarious plot at the hands of DP and his evil NRG minions, I highly doubt BBT isn't Town. That said, he did say something odd. Odd in that it isn't explained. A mystery. A question. Blood in the water. Chum. Something to pursue, and with good reason. What did he say, AK? He says he will not die tonight. Night 2. Scum like killing Masons. BBT's a Mason, and one whose buttocks are exposed in the field. Forgive me for wondering, but shouldn't I question this? That BBT's a Mason is not in question at the moment. His newfound declaration of temporary immortality

is

. So looking at the field and all the wily characters in it, my eyes settle on TellTaleHeart. Why, she says she's a Neighbor to BBT. A Vengeful one at that. One who threatens to Venge others and declaring she will lynch herself, all while not doing so with the greatest of ease. An idea. A

possibility

. Is that she's the latent reason BBT says his clock won't be cleaned tonight. Why else would he declare himself indestructible tonight, unless it's some grand bluff? And you're voting me for that, citing that I'm Rolehunting when in truth I'm Town as Hell and hunting for answers as a shark hunts fat tuna and plump, elderly whales. I do question your motives, and I'd have you explain yourself further at once.

@TellTaleHeart

I swear I'm Town, and Vengeful. I'm going to Venge you if you do this or that. Here, I'm voting for myself. This means I'm honest and serious and everything. No wait I'll unvote and vote someone else. Hey I'm going to Venge you. No I'm really Town here I'll prove it by voting myself. Nah I'll unvote but really you need to believe me. No wait I'll vote him instead. Oh no you better not lynch me I'll Venge you. See I'm Town here look I'm voting myself. See? See? Yeah I'm Town better believe me. Need another vote, need another vote. Oh wait unvote look at the other guy. I'm Town seriously. Oh you're gonna-

@FakeGod

I don't doubt your intelligence. I do however doubt your alignment. You have routinely called me your solid Town read and yet, when that is threatened by by one Anatole, you apparently remain quiet. Does your inaction betray your words? Hm... I don't know. I would think that someone who appears to voice me as a strong Townread and therefore unlynchable from your end would speak up. Wouldn't you? Your 3362-3364 are reasonable. The timing of it makes me wonder just a tad, though. My instinct tells me to voice concern over the possibility that Boonskiies and FG are both Scum and rehearsed this bit the previous Night. They may not be clever enough to do so, but you never know when it comes to Mafia. Better to keep an open mind, I say. After your blitz on the Tracker part, you later Doogal, 3377. Reason not required. And then, at TTH's bidding yet again, you suddenly change to voting Anatole in 3383. I do not understand why you keep darting about the field and vacillating when it comes to lynching TTH and otherwise being shifty and odd throughout the game. If memory serves I've played with Town-FakeGod before, and it was nothing like this person I'm playing with currently.

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:07 am

In post 3398, FakeGod wrote:Wake, I never played a game with you as town before.

Oh?

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 6:44 am

AK, Doogal, FakeGod, and TTH (to find out if she's lying) are all acceptable lynches in my opinion.

If AK reaches L1 I'd be content to hammer him before deadline.

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 7:23 am

Because I so love peculiar reactions.

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 1:51 pm

I'd like to understand the extreme and obvious resistance against the TTH, Doogal, and FakeGod wagons.

Boonskiies, what say you?

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:04 pm

I want to see if TTH is BS'ing before it's too late.

Others noticing the pattern around TTH's wagons would be great, too.

If TTH goes to L1 I will drop the hammer.

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:33 pm

In post 3423, FakeGod wrote:For those of you wondering if TTH is BS'ing, let me tell you that TTH can never survive to endgame with her claim.

Optimal play for town is to lynch the vengeful player at 3p LyLo, since it's a free lynch at that point.

Doctor Pepper/Bert, would you please clarify how this exactly resolves?

I'm wondering because, if TTH is indeed Vengeful Town and lynched, with one Scum and one Town remaining, does her ability or Scum's wincon trigger first?

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:42 pm

She's survived thus far, hasn't she?

People have taken notice, you know.

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:45 pm

Didn't you just say that TTH would have to get to endgame, 3-player LyLo, in order to use her ability?

Then you say she's guaranteed to never survive to endgame. And since there's more than one Scum...

...

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:45 pm

I am awaiting confirmation from the mod one whether her ability or Scum's wincon triggers first.

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:48 pm

I'm keenly aware of her dance. She keeps saying she'll get lynched while voting herself, while continuously fighting not to get lynched but survive.

We need to lynch her. Now.

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:49 pm

VOTE: TellTaleHeart

Voteparked.

Wake1 · Sun Oct 12, 2014 4:51 pm

And FG's defense of her is extremely apparent.

If she flips Scum, we ragelynch FakeGod.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:08 am

I'll lynch between FakeGod and TTH, primarily.

Would not mind a Doogal or Anatole lynch, either.

We're not voting BBT or Boons today. My take on Boons may change as the Days progress.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:29 am

At face value I see no way you're not a Town Mason. I don't think our Mod would mess with us that way. My disbelief is because you playing very Scummy this game.

In general, never try to push me to vote someone. I don't take orders. That you keep pushing me to vote AK while absolutely refusing to lynch TTH is not going to help our diplomatic relations. And since you utterly refuse to quote anything from your two PTs from Night 1, when you did so so easily for pre-game, I feel you are refusing to share vital information with us. I don't want a summary. Screw the summary. I want the posts. DP already said it's fine to quote stuff from those PTs, so why the refusal this time?

Wake1 · Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:39 am

There is need for quotes, for the sake of objectivity and independent analysis.

Why won't you be forthcoming?

Wake1 · Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:56 am

Town needs the information.

Please give us the information.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:59 am

Boonskiies, let's make history.

I need you to vote TTH.

If she's not lying, it'll be her choice who she kills.

Everyone take note of BBT's absolute refusal to share information vital to Town.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:01 am

In post 3488, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:TTH told you everything.

Read her posts.

You shared the pregame PT posts immediately.

Yet you absolutely refuse to share any Neighbor or Mason PT posts from Night 1.

Share the posts so we can read them ourselves!!!

Wake1 · Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:30 am

TTH should nail FakeGod if she's Town.

However he probably has her fooled.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:30 am

If she flips Scum we ragelynch FakeGod immediately.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:32 am

Or Venge Boonskiies, since his latest posts do feel fake to me, too.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:43 am

I think you need to be held accountable for what you're saying and explain it thoroughly, BBT.

Even now you absolutely refuse to share those posts from the PTs, even when you did so for pregame.

Your last post is absolutely nonsensical. Good luck peddling that crap.

Wake1 · Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:26 pm

...

I cannot blame TellTaleHeart for her actions. She placed farr too much trust in the wrong people. With time and experience she'll become far better at discerning one's lies and manipulation.

I am surprised no one died in a bloody explosion tonight. Ah well.

I want explanations as to why no one died tonight, and a certain someone's head on my mantle.

Reading through now.

Wake1 · Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:29 pm

In post 3512, Doogal121 wrote:Doc / BP /
or really flaky scum?

Absolutely not. Don't even

try

to be disingenuous here.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:53 am

Has there been any explanation for N2?

If a Town claim can guarantee a Scum lynch then today would be the day to do it. If not, don't say anything.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:43 am

It's true Masons can be Village Idiots.

I see FakeGod goes unchallenged.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 8:45 am

In post 3735, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
I need some fucking help.

You don't listen, so why waste the energy?

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:22 am

Is a protective role truly that likely in a game this big?

It's possible Scum chose to not NK. "Why" is the question.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:23 am

VOTE: Anatole

If Boonskiies is lying he's dead.

If he's telling the truth I recommend the mystery that protected someone last Night protect Boons Night 3.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:26 am

In post 3772, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Why would scum choose not to NK?

You're really f****** dense aren't you?

Yeah that's not nice. I will say that you're incredibly unimaginative and lacking sharpness.

Forgoing the NK can sometimes be a helpful Scumploy. That you're unaware of this makes me wonder how much experience in Mafia you actually have. Sorry, but there's only so much obtuseness I can take.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:28 am

Anatole's setting me up for D4 mislynch. Do not trust him.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:29 am

In post 3785, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
Wake is scum if AK flips scum.

How?

You're being an idiot, BBT.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:36 am

In post 3789, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 3775, Wake1 wrote:
If he's telling the truth
I recommend the mystery that protected someone last Night protect Boons Night 3
.

Scummy as fuck!

You need to explain how that's Scummy, BBT.

I asked why no one died Night 2. No one said anything. Chances are it's either not a NK, or someone intervened. However, the person who intervened didn't have sufficient cause to outright claim to nail Scum.

If DP made it so that you're not Town I will never play in one of his games again. You have been incredibly ignorant, obtuse, combative, and Scummy. You do not listen and anything outside your scope of understanding you have disdain for. Still you don't see how FakeGod is so clearly manipulating you, and because of your idiocy you simply swallow up all of his lies. What's wrong with you? You've been behaving like a stubborn idiot this whole game, from refusing to answers questions, engage, or help out, to absolutely refusing to share PT posts WE NEED.

You're terrible at this game, and you need to learn how to start considering what others have to say, instead of outright ignoring players and refusing to do engage.

I'm forced to work around your idiocy.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:37 am

In post 3793, Anatole Kuragin wrote:masons, neighbors, tracker, venge, protective role

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

this game was unwinnable

And if it wasn't obvious,

Bomb

.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:40 am

Boonskiies should track FG tomorrow.

Keep in mind:

Assume there are two more Scum.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:41 am

In post 3800, massive wrote:without feeling the urge to obfuscate with some inane conspiracy theory?

Name

one

.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:42 am

In post 3779, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:That looks like a bus from Wake.

Remember this post-game, and learn from it.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:47 am

In post 3805, massive wrote:
In post 3803, Wake1 wrote:
In post 3800, massive wrote:without feeling the urge to obfuscate with some inane conspiracy theory?

Name
one
.

We can start with "scum skipped a kill to fake a protective role." Then if that's not enough, we can go on to "both neighbors are scum and are faking a neighbor thread."

Would you like me to continue?

It's not stupid, but possible. There have been times when I was Scum and the better choice was to not kill anyone because the situation called for it, in that it caused confusion and made people react in ways that we wanted them to. It's called being clever as Scum. That you can't fathom the possibilities is your problem.

The possibilities of both Neighbors being Scum and faking being in a Neighborhood was a possibility

at that time

. That DP refused to clarify while basically saying Scum could quote posts from their Scum PT and pass them off as if from a Neighborhood didn't help things, either. Only with additional claims and flips did that theory turn out to be not the case. Do

not

blame me for being cynical and questioning everything.

I would rather list the possibilities and make my voice heard than hide in the shadows and lurk.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:50 am

In post 3808, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 2313, Wake1 wrote: If you want to get nasty and mean, I wouldn't advise it, because I'll report you for abusive posts just like you did Csareo. Am I understood?

Remember when you told this flat out lie?

Careful what you say Wake, could come back and bite you in the ass.

Go for it. I'd like to see you try.

You have been extremely obtuse, ignorant, foolish, combative, and unhelpful this game.

Those are your problems, and it's time you own up to them.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:51 am

In post 3815, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 3797, Wake1 wrote:
In post 3793, Anatole Kuragin wrote:masons, neighbors, tracker, venge, protective role

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

this game was unwinnable

And if it wasn't obvious,
Bomb
.

I'd claim that if I was doctor too

Well lucky for you I'm not a Doctor.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:53 am

Call my bluff and just try to kill me tonight. See what happen.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:54 am

It's time we delve into every one of AK's posts.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:55 am

In post 3823, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wake, you can't be killed.

You're scum.

Remember this for post-game.

I'll be rubbing your face in it.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:56 am

In post 3825, massive wrote:
In post 3812, Wake1 wrote:Do not blame me for being cynical and questioning everything.

There is a loooooong distance between "being cynical" and letting every tin-foil possibility cloud your perception of the game. One suggestion I would make going forward would be to figure out how to separate the signal from the noise -- it will help you follow rabbitholes that actually benefit the town, and will help us separate signal from noise as well.

It's not a tin-foil possibility when it's possible and it's happened, whether I've witnessed it or done it myself in the past.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:57 am

In post 3828, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Look forward to it Wake.

Remember this.

Bet you'll turn tail and not post in the pre-game.

In post 3829, FakeGod wrote:
In post 3826, Wake1 wrote:
In post 3823, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Wake, you can't be killed.

You're scum.

Remember this for post-game.

I'll be rubbing your face in it.

Wake, you called me scum like 100 times in this game.

Remember that for post-game.

You've behaved VERY oddly this game.

BBT's just a VI, and one of his reasons for calling me Scum is over "indecision." Get real.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:01 am

To the Wise:

Boonskiies needs to be protected, if possible.

Boonskiies should track whoever he thinks is Scum (I think he should track FG. If there is only two Scum, which I highly doubt, FG wouldn't be able to kill).

Lastly, one of my "tin-foil" conspiracies: Boons could be Scum, and bussing AK. I've used the same gambit in the past. Unlikely, but damned possible.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:13 am

In post 3840, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:To people who can play this game;

Do whatever the fuck you want with your protective role.

Wake is scum trying to influence so they can kill elsewhere thinking protection is on Boon.

I'm trying to be patient, but it's really tough when I'm Town.

I'm not trying to influence anyone. I'm saying if ther is in fact a protective role out there then he or she should protect the Tracker.

Protect the Tracker. Tracker, protected. How does that not make sense?

In post 3841, FakeGod wrote:I was under the impression that no sane person has been listening to Wake for awhile now.

Then you're either a fool, combative, stubborn, or Scum.

In post 3842, Boonskiies wrote:I always listen to Wake.

You shouldn't, because sometimes I roll Scum.

I am frighteningly good as Scum.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:16 am

In post 3844, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Updated.

In post 3543, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I'm not putting this VCA in spoilers. The following is when wagons were at their biggest.

In post 1239, Bert wrote:
Vote Count 1.09

BlueBloodedToffee
(6)
–
TellTaleHeart
, Flubbernugget, Csareo,
Boonskiies
, Doogal121, Wake88

Csareo(5)
– Omph,
The Rufflig
,
Green Crayons
,
BlueBloodedToffee
, massive

JaggedAppliance
(1)
–
Anatole Kuragin

Not Voting(1)
-
JaggedAppliance

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}[/area]

In post 1557, Bert wrote:
Vote Count 1.13

Boonskiies
(6)
–
Anatole Kuragin
, FakeGod,
BlueBloodedToffee
, massive,
JaggedAppliance
,
TellTaleHeart

BlueBloodedToffee
(5)
– Flubbernugget, Csareo,
Boonskiies
, Doogal121, Wake88

Csareo(1)
–
Green Crayons

Not Voting(1)
–
The Rufflig

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}[/area]

In post 2629, Bert wrote:
Vote Count 1.28

JaggedAppliance
(5)
– FakeGod,
Boonskiies
, Flubbernugget, Doogal121, Titus

Anatole Kuragin
(5)
–
Green Crayons
,
BlueBloodedToffee
,
TellTaleHeart
,
JaggedAppliance
,
The Rufflig

TellTaleHeart
(1)
– Wake88

Boonskiies
(1)
– massive

Not Voting(1)
–
Anatole Kuragin

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Tuesday, September 30, 2014, 11:59 PM {(expired on 2014-09-30 23:59:00)}[/area]

In post 2637, Bert wrote:
Vote Count 1.29

JaggedAppliance
(7)
– FakeGod,
Boonskiies
, Flubbernugget, Doogal121, Titus,
TellTaleHeart
,
The Rufflig

Anatole Kuragin(3)
–
Green Crayons
,
BlueBloodedToffee
,
JaggedAppliance

TellTaleHeart
(1)
– Wake88

Boonskiies
(1)
– massive

Not Voting(1)
–
Anatole Kuragin

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Tuesday, September 30, 2014, 11:59 PM {(expired on 2014-09-30 23:59:00)}[/area]

In post 3506, Bert wrote:
Vote Count 2.15

TellTaleHeart
(6)
–
TellTaleHeart
, Titus, Doogal121, Wake88,
Anatole Kuragin
, Boonskiies

Anatole Kuragin
(3)
– massive, FakeGod,
BlueBloodedToffee

The Rufflig
(1)
– Flubbernugget

FakeGod(1)
–
The Rufflig

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch

The Day 2 deadline is on Friday, October 17, 2014, 11:59 PM {(expired on 2014-10-17 23:59:00)}[/area]

Titus is scum.

One of Flubber/Doogal is the other.

Whatever happened to me being Scum to you?

See, this is what gets me vexed with you.

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE TOWN MASON...

If you were more helpful and willing to answer my questions and engage, our relations would be far better. I'm not going to firebomb you with pointed insults because I'm not sure exactly how sensitive DP is with his rules.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:19 am

In post 3849, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:If I'm town Mason...that's funny.

Exactly. Because you've been so unhelpful.

Claimed Town Masons should never be so stubborn and unwilling to help other members as your team as you are.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:22 am

In post 3852, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I've been as helpful as I could be.

By refusing to release any more PT posts after you released the ones from pre-game so readily?

I don't understand why you absolutely won't share them, even after GC's and TTH's demise. Why won't you share them? Why?

If I were Mason/Neighbor I would have quoted and posted every single one of them early on, once the other members in those PTs were dead.

Wake1 · Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:26 am

In post 3854, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Because TTH told you everything you needed to know from the thread.

That's

not

good enough.

Answer my goddamn question. Why won't you quote and post the exact posts into this thread?

Why?

You have absolutely

nothing

to hide, so post them all

now

.

Wake1 · Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:02 pm

VOTE: FakeGod

Also, I'm paranoid that Boons might not actually be a Tracker. I've fakeclaimed Tracker and bussed at least twice over 6 years of playing. Just keep that in mind as a possibility, please. I just, seriously. Masons, Vengeful Neighbor, Tracker... Wait, Flubber would explain the lack of death Night 2. We need to see if he left any crumbs.