Mini Normal 1609: The Case Of Doctor Pepper (Game Over)

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:23 am

In post 2149, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2140, FakeGod wrote:No, I mean a kill.

Town loses a lynch, actually.

So, by Town "loses a kill," you're insinuating that more than one "claimed" Townie can kill, correct?

No.

By "kill", I mean vengeful kill + lynches.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:23 am

Wake, I doubt that TTH will make it far in this game.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:25 am

In post 2154, Jagged Appliance wrote:Yeah FakeGod, my reads changed after a rake of claims. How strange. Now, I'm here as the backup lynch and I'm not pushing TTH to use the shot. Clearly a survivalist strategy.

Walk me through how your reads changed from those into the ones now.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:27 am

My apologies if you were confused, Wake.

But my point stands: lynching TTH does not allow town to get rid of an extra player.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:29 am

In post 2161, Jagged Appliance wrote:
In post 2156, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2154, Jagged Appliance wrote:Yeah FakeGod, my reads changed after a rake of claims. How strange. Now, I'm here as the backup lynch and I'm not pushing TTH to use the shot. Clearly a survivalist strategy.

Walk me through how your reads changed from those into the ones now.

Why?

You're saying I'm wrong.

I can't read your mind, so show me why I'm wrong.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:30 am

In post 2163, Wake1 wrote:It does when Vengeful TTH takes someone down with her when she dies.

Incorrect.

Perhaps you should reread my explanation.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:31 am

In post 2166, Wake1 wrote:So, TTH, how many posts in your Neighborhood have happened yet?

BBT, can you tell us the number of posts in your supposed Mason PT?

They claimed that they do not have daytalk.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:32 am

In post 2167, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2165, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2163, Wake1 wrote:It does when Vengeful TTH takes someone down with her when she dies.

Incorrect.

Perhaps you should reread my explanation.

If TTH is Vengeful Townie, she's part of the Town.

You can boil your explanation down to one or two sentences.

Not using her ability, town gets 4 mislynches before town loses.

Using her ability, town gets 1 vengekill and 3 mislynches before town loses.

4 = 3 + 1

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:40 am

I'm rather confident in my townread in TTH and Wake.

Stop being anti-town and unvote please, TTH.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:43 am

Wake, this is absolutely town TTH.

Scum in TTH's position would never have claimed vengeful, since vengeful goon

wants

to get lynched to bring an additional kill for the mafia team.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 9:57 am

This is my first time playing with TTH as well.

But strength of my read does not come from number of games I've played with the person.

I've only played one game with you, Wake, but my townread on you is just as strong.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:00 am

In post 2185, Wake1 wrote:
If I were Scum I would definitely consider claiming Vengeful status and then carefully, subtly having my partners shift the lynch elsewhere.

Try this when you roll scum and see what happens.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:04 am

In post 2187, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2184, FakeGod wrote:This is my first time playing with TTH as well.

But strength of my read does not come from number of games I've played with the person.

How exactly do you know she's Town-TTH when you have no basis of measurement derived from past game experiences with her?

I think you're misunderstanding what I typed.

I wasn't making a reference to her meta when I said she was town TTH.

My bad, I should have been more clear.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:16 am

Csareo, do you believe TTH's vengeful townie claim?

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:17 am

In post 2208, Wake1 wrote:Csareo fears the Vig shot.

If Csareo thinks TTH is what she claims she is, then why is he trying to lynch her?

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:20 am

In post 2211, Csareo wrote:
In post 2206, FakeGod wrote:Csareo, do you believe TTH's vengeful townie claim?

I'm not completely sure. ATP, I'm trying to meet the deadline.
I said in the post last page, that I'm joining the leading wagon.

I'm going to beg you to join the Jagged wagon instead.

Please. I'm begging you.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:21 am

In post 2215, Wake1 wrote:Anyways, someone will probably try to kill me tonight.

I seriously doubt that.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:21 am

In post 2216, Csareo wrote:What is Jagged Appliance at?

4, I believe.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:24 am

In post 2023, Bert wrote:
Vote Count 1.21

JaggedAppliance(5)
– FakeGod, The Rufflig, Boonskiies, Flubbernugget, Doogal121

TellTaleHeart(4)
- Green Crayons, JaggedAppliance, Csareo, Wake88

Boonskiies(2)
–massive, TellTaleHeart

Csareo(1)
– BlueBloodedToffee

Not Voting(1)
– Anatole Kuragin

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}

Please let us know if you ever see any errors. [/area]

Correction: Jagged is actually at 5, I think.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:25 am

In post 2219, Csareo wrote:I'm picking up this intimidation from TTH that I don't like. Seems like a scum gambit.

How can it be a scum gambit?

Scum does not want to be lynched, but she claims a role that needs to die to use her ability?

That does not make sense.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:30 am

We have 18 hours.

TTH, do not throw your life away meaninglessly.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 4:39 pm

Well deserved mod ruling.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:19 pm

Posting in a game after the mod has force-replaced you is against the site-wide rule.

DP, let the listmod (Tierce) handle this.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:22 pm

In post 2271, Wake1 wrote:Csareo, do what you need to do but do it right. Be thorough, respectful, and serious. Should you need reference let me know.

This action was ill-advised and rash. To force-replace the most active player without any hint of warning is not the right way to Mod quality games.

I am hoping DP understands this sooner rather than later. I made this same mistake in years past.

I, for one, warned Csareo of possible modkill.

He wasn't interested in fixing his behavior, if I recall correctly.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:58 pm

In post 1861, Csareo wrote:Urgh, now he's taking my pride hostage.
What a shameful jackass. He acts incompetent 99% of the game and has the most unusual of claims up to this point.
The only reason to believe it is that he copied and pasted it with ease.

In post 1890, Csareo wrote:
In post 1887, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 1885, Csareo wrote:Fuck it, I'm sticking to my gut
VOTE: BBT

That's good.

Now, convince them I'm scum.

I already have. They're blinded by you editing the scum PT.
I stand by my promise. If BBT is town I will permanently self vote.
Now if there was any productive mislynch, it would be this jackass.

In post 1904, Csareo wrote:This is another thing that has me. I once played a game where I pinned a fake claim plot, and the scum couldn't stop gloating that they had me fooled.
To me, BBT is a cocky ass piece of scum who's is a little over the hedge.

In post 1910, Csareo wrote:
In post 1907, FakeGod wrote:Stop the insults.

You're putting yourself at risk of modkill.

That would be a pleasant relief. Maybe my replacement can better explain why BBT is scum.

In post 1913, Csareo wrote:This guy must be compensating for a very, very small dick.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:03 pm

Majiffy was banned from games for one month when he posted in the thread after the mod declared him to be replaced.

We'll see what the punishment this time will be I guess.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:22 pm

For one, I certainly wouldn't tolerate a poster like that in a game I was modding.

I think I'm going to advertise meanwhile to get the game going.

FakeGod · Sat Sep 27, 2014 6:27 pm

I don't think I'm allowed to PM individual players.

I'm just spamming the replacement link in the sitechat.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:20 am

Titus, here is the game state:

Your predecessor has claimed

VT

.
BBT has claimed

Mason Neighbor

.
Boons has claimed

Tracker

.
TTH has claimed

Vengeful Townie Neighbor

.

Do what you will.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:20 am

The masonry and the neighborhood is night talk only.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:24 am

Jagged has claimed

VT

.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:38 am

In post 2298, Wake1 wrote:I'm a good Town player, and have been contributing my fair share to the game.

I disagree, and I have been trying to tell you that you have not done that.

You have so far outed a Mason and have been pushing a lynch on obvtown Vengeful townie, while urging her to take a shot on our Mason claim.

That's incredibly anti-town, and you need to stop.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:53 am

I don't care what you think of me.

If you thought I was attempting to gain towncred from you by telling you that you're being anti-town, you would be mistaken.

I'm being completely honest when I say you're hurting the town.

I believe in what I'm saying, and it's the honest truth.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 7:58 am

It's not good when you go around asking questions and applying pressure to

TOWN PRs

, and force them to claim.

Please do that to scum players.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:04 am

In post 2308, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2307, FakeGod wrote:It's not good when you go around asking questions and applying pressure to
TOWN PRs
, and force them to claim.

Please do that to scum players.

But you don't know they're Town PRs.

Right.

So when you find out that you have been applying pressure on the wrong target, don't go around telling people how amazing you are.

Instead, you apologize for your bad reads and try again to find scum.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:41 am

In post 2308, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2307, FakeGod wrote:It's not good when you go around asking questions and applying pressure to
TOWN PRs
, and force them to claim.

Please do that to scum players.

But you don't know they're Town PRs.

Right.

So when you find out that you have been applying pressure on the wrong target, don't go around telling people how amazing you are.

Instead, you apologize for your bad reads and try again to find scum.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:44 am

Titus, I believe that we shouldn't utliize TTH's vengeful power.

It does not grant town extra mislynches.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:53 am

Wake, I saw no response, and believed that you missed it.

So you won't apologize?

Take this post as my final attempt in reaching out to you.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:56 am

In post 2336, Titus wrote:@Jagged, getting both you and HHT flips creates interesting scenarios

1) Both scum (HHT is trapped and must shoot his buddy), town was arguing over which scum to lynch.
2) HHT scum and JA town, votes can be analyzed in light of the flip. Who bussed who did not and why? Why were there so many counterwagons to HHT scum?
3) JA scum and HHT town, votes again can be analyzed in light of the flip. Who bussed? Who did not? Why? Why was HHT a persistent wagon as town?
4) Both are town, then we find out scum were pushing both lynches and proceed accordingly.

VCA is a big part of my game so I tend to do things like vote just to make wagons even.

Again, utilizing TTH's power does not help town, and her power should not be used if at all possible.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:57 am

In post 2342, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2338, Jagged Appliance wrote:@Wake,

This was the question:

Are there or are there not players in the game that would make sense as BBT's mason partner?

That's a yes or no answer.

You gave a name and then directly asked that person to confirm.

Well, yeah. I'm not going to lie. Members of Town don't lie or withhold information. Lynch all Liars.

No.

PR-hunting only helps scum.

Apologize for your bad play.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 8:59 am

Then at post game, do not be surprised if I ask you to avoid me in all future games, Wake.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 9:02 am

In post 2348, Wake1 wrote:
I am not apologizing for anything. I wasn't PR-hunting, and I certainly did not force BBT to claim. He had a choice in the matter.

I'll never apologize for doing what I'm supposed to be doing as Town, which is unraveling loose threads unto their natural conclusion.

Claim or die isn't a choice.

I see that you made your decision.

I will not try again.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:28 am

I think the first step should be to convince TTH to don't jump off the bridge, and that life is worth living.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:31 am

In post 2362, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Let's make that happen.

VOTE: AK

I'm not for or against the AK lynch, but you're running a risk of splitting town votes.

Because of number of bull-headed people still voting for your lynch, we don't have that many votes to work with.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:34 am

TTH, please unvote yourself.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/8-tiny-thin ... -suicides/

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:36 am

In post 2371, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 2370, Boonskiies wrote:
He jumped off because 4 of you immediately jumped on.

Nah, he jumped off because he 'believed' your claim.

This is correct.

I just checked his ISO.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:37 am

BBT* is correct.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:46 pm

Ah, I wasn't aware that the wagon on BBT disappeared.

I think town will not have trouble consolidating its votes before the deadline.

I'm willing to consider outside of Jagged Lynch.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 12:54 pm

Titus, if you could give me your thoughts after catching up, I would appreciate it greatly.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:54 pm

In post 2395, FakeGod wrote:Titus, if you could give me your thoughts after catching up, I would appreciate it greatly.

I will take your vote as you're not doing this.

TTH, hammer.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:55 pm

Nevermind.

I think that was the hammer.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 4:56 pm

Nevermind again.

He's at L-1.

Someone hammer please.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:41 pm

I think it's rather careless of you to put Jagged at L-1, and expect the thread to be still open tomorrow.

FakeGod · Sun Sep 28, 2014 6:47 pm

Or maybe fearless.

Nevertheless, I will be here tomorrow.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:22 am

In post 2526, Wake1 wrote:Mason, Mason-Neighbor, Vengeful-Neighbor, and Tracker. Balanced?

Tad underpowered for town.

About where the NRG would put it, I reckon.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:23 am

In post 2524, Green Crayons wrote:That's why I'm willing to wait on Boon to see if later, at the appropriate time (because of a result or death), another investigative role comes to light. If so, I would be happy to lynch Boon 100%.

If there is another investigative role, he should have counterclaimed boons.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:24 am

In post 2528, Anatole Kuragin wrote:that's under the assumption that every town PR has claimed on day 1 though

5 town PR in a Mini Normal is nearly unheard of.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:27 am

Why is it not possible?

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:29 am

In post 2535, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2533, FakeGod wrote:Why is it not possible?

Why should it be possible?

2 Masons + Cop vs Godfather is a balanced setup, for example.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:32 am

I don't see why that setup shouldn't be allowed.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:34 am

In post 2526, Wake1 wrote:Mason, Mason-Neighbor, Vengeful-Neighbor, and Tracker. Balanced?

This setup.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:38 am

Those setups, too.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:40 am

In post 2548, Wake1 wrote:FakeGod, how does Rufflig rate currently?

I believe he is town.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:40 am

In post 2550, Wake1 wrote:
In post 2547, FakeGod wrote:Those setups, too.

Really?

Yes?

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:56 am

Please hammer, BBT.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:04 pm

In post 2624, TellTaleHeart wrote:I would only hammer Jagged if FakeGod said he was confident in this lynch.

FakeGod, do you feel confident in this lynch?

Yes.

I believe there is a good chance that Jagged is scum.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:29 pm

In post 2627, The Rufflig wrote:So, anything happen in the last 20 odd pages? Nope, not really. Same old arguments: check. Deadlocked on the wagons again. Wonderful.

VOTE: Anatole Kuragin

eh, by switching your vote, you just contributed to the deadlock.

FakeGod · Mon Sep 29, 2014 2:33 pm

BBT, please claim to TTH the name of your Mason partner during the night.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 03, 2014 3:33 pm

BBT, did you reveal your partner to TTH during the night?

Boons, your result please.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:04 pm

By the way, that Green Canyon shot was a terrible shot by the mafia.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:07 pm

TTH, please summarize the neighborhood night 1.

BBT, please summarize the masonry night 1.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 03, 2014 4:50 pm

You do realize they can't hide anything?

BBT is confirmed mason and he has access to both PTs.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:42 pm

In post 2648, Wake1 wrote:Which is why I'm asking them to quote the posts here, instead of giving summaries.

I'd rather see the vase than be told what it looks like. I think you would know this, FG.

Actually, I'd much prefer to be told what it looks like.

Don't assume things.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 03, 2014 5:45 pm

In post 1426, Bert wrote:
Vote Count 1.11

BlueBloodedToffee(5)
– Flubbernugget, Csareo, Boonskiies, Doogal121, Wake88[/area]

In post 2118, Bert wrote:
Vote Count 1.22

JaggedAppliance(5)
– FakeGod, The Rufflig, Boonskiies, Flubbernugget, Doogal121[/area]

Flubber, Doogal, and Boons were on both town wagons.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:37 pm

well then

Vote: Rufflig

FakeGod · Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:30 pm

In post 2640, FakeGod wrote:BBT, did you reveal your partner to TTH during the night?

FakeGod · Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:41 pm

In post 2654, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:3 claimed PR's and scum look elsewhere.

That certainly is interesting.

It means scum are rather confident in the status quo.

Should we lynch in the box (Doogal/Flubber/Boons) or out of the box (massive/AK/Rufflig)?

FakeGod · Fri Oct 03, 2014 10:44 pm

Out of Doogal/Flubber/Boons, I'd probably lynch Doogal first.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:46 am

The "reasonable" thing to do would be to lynch inside the box, since that's where the VCA indicates where the scum would be.

The Green Canyon kill worries me though.

It means scum decided that they're fine with Flubber/Dougal/Boons coming under suspicion today.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:57 am

Voting pattern means little without the alignment confirmation, which, we now have.

hmmm....

I thought that Rufflig, who I knew to have figured out who the second mason was, decided to shoot Green Canyon for some reason.

Rufflig, I agree that GC kill was dumb, but can you explain why?

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:58 am

Happy Birthday Rufflig

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:05 am

In post 2663, Flubbernugget wrote:Wake we can lynch FakeGod when he stops being useful. Right now he's our best defense from shitfests.

As your first post of day 2, this post is very strange.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:11 am

Scum knows that shooting Green Canyon, and confirming you as Mason, will confirm that those three players are the only players who have been on town wagons.

Yet, they shot GC anyway.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:18 am

In post 2672, Wake1 wrote:FG, Scum had no certainty GC was a Mason.

How do you know this?

It wasn't exactly a state secret.

Rufflig and I figured it out yesterday. As Rufflig put it, it was just an exercise in ISO.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:20 am

I'm going to wait to change my vote until Rufflig responds.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:30 am

In post 2676, Wake1 wrote:The reason I'm asking is because it wasn't apparent to me

It's because you're not reading.

Had you gone back and read the VCs/ISOs, it would have been very apparent who the second mason was.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:50 am

No.

Do not ask me for help.

I made it clear that I won't be reaching out to you again.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:10 am

In post 2700, TellTaleHeart wrote:Something Fake God didn't bring up: What if the Green Crayon kill didn't have anything to do with role at all? What if the accuracy of Green Crayons' reads were what led to his demise?

This points to Anatole, who I was scumreading anyway.

Correct.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:10 am

In post 2703, Wake1 wrote:Also, I'm not comfortable leaving TTH to 3-player LyLo.

If I'm not mistaken, she cannot use her claimed power if mislynched at that point. If she can, then hm.. There's also the risk that, if she's Scum pretending to be Vengeful, she'll end up winning.

I'm thinking in advance.

When did she say she cannot use her power in 3p LyLo?

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:20 am

???

so you just assumed she can't use her power in LyLo?

I have never seen a game in which vengeful suddenly loses his/her power in LyLo.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:52 am

Helping a lost player find his way.

How about you?

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:56 am

Um.

D2 is pretty much already decided ever since you made your 2706.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 9:21 am

In post 2672, Wake1 wrote:I'm feeling that certain players are ignoring me

I guess it's time to join their ranks.

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:02 am

Considering that it's most likely your last day alive, I wouldn't end it so quickly, BBT.

Nevertheless, my vote is yours.

Vote: Flubber

FakeGod · Sat Oct 04, 2014 10:19 am

You're confirmed Town.

Why would scum kill anyone else?

FakeGod · Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:25 am

In post 2730, Titus wrote:I think this is the classic 2 masons with a roleblocker setup.

Obviously not.

There's a mason neighbor and a vengeful neighbor.

FakeGod · Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:25 am

Titus, please complete your VCA.

I have a strong townread on your slot and I'm interested in what you have to say.

FakeGod · Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:31 am

Thank you.

FakeGod · Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:41 am

In post 2751, Flubbernugget wrote:@Fake are you sheeping BBT's vote on the grounds that he's conftown?

It should be evident from my play that who I townread have virtually no correlation with whose opinions I agree with.

FakeGod · Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:49 pm

FakeGod · Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:55 pm

Flub, who are your scumreads?

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:38 am

I believe in power of Titus's VCA.

Hold off on everything.

I guarantee it will be worth the wait.

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:37 pm

lololol

It wasn't worth the wait.

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:38 pm

Titus, I thought you were better than this.

I'm sorely disappointed.

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:48 pm

In post 2811, Titus wrote:Better than what? What did you expect?

I read your previous games, and I thought your in-game analysis was decent

I guess I was wrong

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:56 pm

ah well

town is in strong position nevertheless

I just need to identify one more town player, and town will auto-win.

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:58 pm

hmmmm, do I really want to bet the game on Boons being town?

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 3:59 pm

In post 2802, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 2798, massive wrote:
Considering this is Csareo's slot, what made you go from absolute scum to leaning town?

There were glimmers from Csareo that pointed towards him being town, I even stated that several times. Titus' play so far seems to come from a town-perspective, it's by no means a strong read though.

Csareo was way too intense to be scum

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:03 pm

@Mod: Is this your first time modding a non-micro game?

If not, please PM me the links to your other games.

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:04 pm

In post 2800, TellTaleHeart wrote:I got the prod. Apologies for the absence.

Where did all the Anatole suspicion go? If I remember correctly, he was the 2nd most popular wagon to Jagged Appliance yesterday. If scum killed Green Crayons as a frame-up like Anatole himself is suggesting, they certainly aren't capitalizing on it now. I also thought I remembered Fake God saying something about how the Jagged Appliance flip could serve as a "litmus test" for Anatole, but I don't see any follow up on that.

The test is stronger if Jagged flipped scum

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:05 pm

ugh I hate getting serious, but I guess I'll pull up the excel chart and figure this shit out

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:12 pm

In post 1517, Doogal121 wrote:So, my 2 big scum reads and a null of mine are now on the boons wagon. Hmm...

huh

your 2 big scumreads (BBT & Jagged) are confirmed to be town-aligned

your thoughts?

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:16 pm

BBT

I rather lynch Doogal today

at least Flubber has scumreads

all Doogal did today was entertain possible existence of scum vengeful

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:26 pm

plus AK has this everlasting Doogal townread for some reason

FakeGod · Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:29 pm

virtually all people have expressed suspicions against Boons

hmmm

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:06 am

In post 2825, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I could get behind a Doogal lynch if needed.

Would much prefer Flubber > Boon > Doogal though.

It's your call.

You're the confirmed town.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:10 am

People may give you advises, but it's ultimately your decision that will count more than anyone else's in the end.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:11 am

If you want me to lead, say the word.

I will not let you down.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:17 am

Fantastic.

Can these people give your top 3 scumreads at the moment?

Doogal121
Flubbernugget
massive
Anatole Kuragin
The Rufflig

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:19 am

Please leave your townreads out.

Rest of you, please do NOT give me your reads.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:34 am

What question, Flub?

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:35 am

In post 2835, FakeGod wrote:Fantastic.

Can these people give your top 3 scumreads at the moment?

Doogal121

Flubbernugget

massive
Anatole Kuragin
The Rufflig

3 more to go.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:37 am

In post 2835, FakeGod wrote:Fantastic.

Can these people give your top 3 scumreads at the moment?

Doogal121

Flubbernugget

massive

Anatole Kuragin

The Rufflig

2 more to go.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 6:57 am

In post 2849, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 2843, FakeGod wrote:What question, Flub?

In post 2839, Flubbernugget wrote:

@Everyone - Who do you think had more town-utility yesterday: FG or GC?

Me.

What were you expecting?

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:02 am

In post 2847, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2835, FakeGod wrote:Fantastic.

Can these people give your top 3 scumreads at the moment?

Doogal121

Flubbernugget

massive

Anatole Kuragin

The Rufflig

2 more to go.

massive/Rufflig, please address this when you guys get here

I will be working on another game in my free time today

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:05 am

well, I have enough townreads and almost enough mislynches remaining to guarantee catching all but one scum.

I'm still working out the lynch order.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:44 am

In post 2860, Doogal121 wrote:@FG Can we have those townreads pls?

I posted them everywhere; go ISO me

and your TTH vote sucks and your reasons are terrible

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:45 am

In post 2880, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Doogal is prob town.

It is mindblowing to me how you can possibly think Doogal is town after those series of posts

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:47 am

He's attempting lead a lynch on a claimed vengeful townie.

Think about it.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:53 am

In post 2886, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:If he believes she is vengeful mafia though...

vengeful mafia?

Are you serious?

First of all, there is no "baiting the lynch" as vengeful mafia. That's idiotic. You just fake a guilty on a strong town player d2, force town to waste a lynch, and enjoy the doublekill in the next day.

Secondly, I have never seen one in any games I have ever read.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:55 am

In post 2419, Doogal121 wrote:Firstly, let me discuss TTH vengeful ability. It is anti town. Period.

Here is Doogal telling us that TTH ability should NOT be used.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:55 am

Again, BBT, it BLOWS my mind how you can possibly be townreading Doogal right now.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:18 am

In post 2900, Doogal121 wrote:
In post 2888, Wake1 wrote:If he were Scum, and did manage to lead a successful mislynch on a Vengeful Townie, he could force her to use her ability and possibly kill another Townie.

There is more of a likelihood she could end up Venging a Townie than a Mafioso.

@Wake. Let's assume I'm scum for a second. If you were TTH, who would you attack as vengeful? Probably the person who started your wagon, no?

@FG, She's a new player and wouldn't have access to Scum PT during the day. I think she tried to gambit just to use her power.

Sorry.

You can try selling that ridiculous theory of yours, but I'm not buying any of it.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:45 pm

Rufflig, I already said I was joking when I made that post.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:49 pm

In post 2835, FakeGod wrote:Fantastic.

Can these people give your top 3 scumreads at the moment?

Doogal121

Flubbernugget

massive

Anatole Kuragin

The Rufflig

One more to go.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:24 pm

Boons

you have one job and one job only

it's to get a guilty

do you understand me?

if you get a guilty, I guarantee that town will win

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:26 pm

oh

Rufflig voted me

Ha hahahhahahhAHAHAHHAHHHAHAHHHA

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:27 pm

my god

you must have been getting desperate?

I mean you were getting squeezed, but you could've played the Boons card out if you swung it that way

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:29 pm

ah well

this is easier for me

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:30 pm

I would like to 1v1 Rufflig.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:34 pm

Let me put that in bigger fonts so it doesn't go missed.

I would like to 1v1 Rufflig.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:41 pm

IT'S YOU OR ME SCUMBAG

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 4:48 pm

Vote: Rufflig

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:16 pm

Because I'm absolutely positive that Rufflig's flipping scum, and I'm willing to go to any length to make it happen.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:28 pm

It is the only and final explanation for what has taken place.

I've been squeezing the scumteam since day 2 started, and I've been waiting for one of them to make a move.

With GC flip confirming you as town, I only have to find one town out of

Doogal121, Flubbernugget, massive, Anatole Kuragin, The Rufflig, and Boons

in order to guarantee town auto-win.

Scum absolutely need to get a mislynch outside that pool if they want to have more than a ghost of a chance at winning this.

I've been suppressing any possible lynches on any of my townreads majority of the day, and therefore, only target left is me.

Rufflig's sudden scumread on me only came after several people have expressed that they might be considering my lynch today. With the possible lynchpool being narrowed down, Rufflig decided to gamble everything and attempt to lynch me, once he saw that he might have enough town support to pull it off.

He overplayed his hand, and I'm going to make sure he pays for it.

FakeGod · Wed Oct 08, 2014 9:31 pm

Look at the way he posted 2917, and 2921.

He suddenly expresses his scumread on me out of nowhere, then proceeds to pull out a random post I made, and follows up with a vote.

That isn't town.

That is scum who decided he has enough support to make a gambit, and wrote in some random excuse for his vote, hoping that the wagon will take off.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:00 am

In post 2941, Anatole Kuragin wrote:If it's between rufflig and FG I'm definitely voting FG.

Put your vote where your mouth is.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:03 am

In post 2940, Anatole Kuragin wrote:1v1ing isn't pro-town. It's an ego trip.

I don't see how this will end badly for town.

If Rufflig gets lynched, we get a scumflip.

If I get lynched, I will flip town, and Rufflig gets lynched tomorrow. We get a scumflip.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:02 am

In post 2947, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:For one, there is no guarantee that Rufflig gets lynched if you get lynched and vice versa.

Town can trivially guarantee that, and has the power to enforce it.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:06 am

In post 2949, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:For two, you could both be town.

Haha. Very funny.

Do you think I don't know the consequences?

Do you think I don't know what I'm doing?

I know what the risks are, and I know what's on the table.

I wouldn't be doing this unless I was

very

sure that Rufflig was scum.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:49 am

In post 2951, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I wish I could share your confidence.

You asked me to lead.

I'm asking the town to follow.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:50 am

In post 2956, Doogal121 wrote:Rufflig Vs FG is Scum vs Scum

cool story bro

you should tell it again

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:51 am

you should also explain why you're not voting for me or Rufflig when you believe it to be a guaranteed scum lynch

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:14 am

It was a joke.

And you're dying today, scumbag.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:19 am

Of course not.

She's not a mind reader.

She immediately asked me if I was serious, and I said no.

In post 2104, FakeGod wrote:
In post 2101, TellTaleHeart wrote:GreenCrayons? Why do you say that name, FakeGod?

I was only half serious.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:37 am

In post 2963, The Rufflig wrote:Your defense for knowingly trying to aim a venge kill at a mason

This is

wrong

.

I am the biggest proponent of not using TTH's ability.

How can you possibly accuse of me trying to direct a venge kill,

when I've been yelling at people to not lynch TTH

?

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 11:38 am

You have no case.

Your reasons are weak, and you overplayed your hand.

And you will pay for it with your life.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:10 pm

Nope, sorry.

It doesn't matter how you spin it.

TTH lynch was not happening d1.

I see the VC you quoted and I see Jagged at L-1, not TTH.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:12 pm

Have you considered that if I really did wanted to lynch TTH and wanted to influence her shot,

that I could have easily done it?

TTH was townreading me above anyone else at the time of that VC.

It would have been trivial for me to do so, yet I had not, and

I'm never going to advocate TTH lynch in this game.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:15 pm

In post 2969, The Rufflig wrote:Btw, your "plan" for the town to win requires that you be completely correct on all your town reads (TTH, Wake88, BBT and Titus).

Ha. You think I'm wrong?

I'll remind you that I

have never been endgamed as town except once in all of my games

. (it was against Nacho and Thor scumteam; they were unbeatable)

I have absolute faith in myself and my ability to win for town.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:16 pm

In post 2973, The Rufflig wrote:Exactly. It certainly looked like you tried.

Nope.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:24 pm

In post 2972, The Rufflig wrote:
In post 2968, FakeGod wrote:You have no case.

Your reasons are weak, and you overplayed your hand.

And you will pay for it with your life.

My reasons are better than yours. You claim that someone making a case now outside a pool of players that you have decided on means that the person making the case must be scum. Pshaw! You are saying that it is literally impossible for a townie to make a case on anyone except the players that you decide it is ok for a case to be made on. Go ahead and prove that one. Hell, if you get me lynched then you will have proven it wrong yourself.

I have absolute faith in my townreads.

Anyone who tries to make a serious case on my townreads are either incompetent, or scum.

You are clearly not incompetent.

You are scum.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:27 pm

My death will prove me right.

Your death will prove me right.

I'm going to win, so bring it, scumbag.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:53 pm

In post 2978, The Rufflig wrote:Let me show you how stupid your case against me is:

With GC flip confirming BBT as town, I only have to find one town out of Doogal121, Flubbernugget, Titus, Anatole Kuragin, FakeGod, and Boons in order to guarantee town auto-win.

Scum absolutely need to get a mislynch outside that pool if they want to have more than a ghost of a chance at winning this.

I've been suppressing any possible lynches on any of my townreads majority of the day, and therefore, only target left is me.

FakeGod's sudden scumread on me only came after several people have expressed that they might be considering my lynch today. With the possible lynchpool being narrowed down, FakeGod decided to gamble everything and attempt to lynch me, once he saw that he might have enough town support to pull it off.

There. Absolute proof that you are scum using your own argument.

Brilliant.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:54 pm

Put your votes down, town.

FakeGod · Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:55 pm

In post 2979, Flubbernugget wrote:FG's push is scummy is fuck.

Rufflig's response is scummy as fuck.

.____.

If both of us are scum, then scum lynch is guaranteed.

Put your vote down.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:29 am

In post 2990, Anatole Kuragin wrote:FG is getting rid of himself by playing scummy. He's acting like a child.

Your last series of posts have been completely worthless, and contradict themselves.

You have been doing nothing but trying to stay out of the way and trying hard not to draw attention to yourself. That is a

typical self-survivalist scum behavior.

I'm risking my life in an honorable battle to lynch the my strongest scumread.

Because when I see scum, I lynch it.

I can't remember one significant thing you did in this game.

After I lynch Rufflig, don't be surprised when I call for your lynch tomorrow.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:30 am

TTH, I am confident in my scumread, enough to risk my life on it.

I don't know what else I can do to show my conviction.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:34 am

I'm surer on Rufflig.

That's why.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:38 am

In post 2998, Anatole Kuragin wrote:So if Rufflig flips town I'm assuming you're going to resign from Mafia and go live in a monastery somewhere reflecting on your life?

If I'm wrong, then I pay up what I promised.

I self-vote.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:57 am

Here's an example. It's almost as bad as Doogal's posts.

In post 2846, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Boonskies is my only real scumread. After that I guess Flub and TTH.

In post 2940, Anatole Kuragin wrote:1v1ing isn't pro-town. It's an ego trip.

In post 2941, Anatole Kuragin wrote:If it's between rufflig and FG I'm definitely voting FG.

I deduce from your scumreads (Boons, Flub, TTH) that you believe the 1v1 is occurring between two town players, as reflected by your post 2940.

Then you suddenly change your mind in 2941 and express your willingness in lynching one of the town players.

From the your views previous to that post, you should be against lynching either player, and you should be writing up town cases on both of them in order to drive the lynch toward one of your scumreads.

You have not done any of that.

Your 2941 contradicts all of the the previous posts you have made.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:02 am

Everyone hated on Boons at one point or another.

Scum has friends. Boons didn't.

And I don't see why scum would bus in d1 when there was a real possibility of getting a town lynch between Csareo and BBT.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:04 am

In post 3005, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Flubber, I have a newfound respect for you as a town player - can you summarize your reads?

Another contradiction.

You listed Flub as one of your scumreads in post 2846.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:05 am

In post 3010, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 3009, FakeGod wrote:Everyone hated on Boons at one point or another.

Scum has friends. Boons didn't.

And I don't see why scum would bus in d1 when there was a real possibility of getting a town lynch between Csareo and BBT.

Scum didn't have to bus. There is a huge difference between saying you
will
vote someone and actually
doing it
when it comes down to it.

Don't you remember when Boons got pushed to L-1 at a blink of an eye and was forced to claim?

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:06 am

In post 1557, Bert wrote:
Vote Count 1.13

Boonskiies (6)
– Anatole Kuragin, FakeGod, BlueBloodedToffee, massive, JaggedAppliance, TellTaleHeart

BlueBloodedToffee(5)
– Flubbernugget, Csareo, Boonskiies, Doogal121, Wake88

Csareo(1)
– Green Crayons

Not Voting(1)
– The Rufflig

With 13 alive, it's 7 to lynch
New deadline is on Sunday, September 28, 2014, 11:00 AM {(expired on 2014-09-28 11:00:00)}

Please let us know if you ever see any errors. [/area]

In post 1558, Boonskiies wrote:God damn it. Tracker. How was I supposed to play as a PR day 1? I have had nothing to do with it yet.

It was L-1.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:08 am

In post 3004, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 3003, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:AK, I had a strong town-read on you early on...however, it's steadily disintegrated as the game has progressed.

Can you do some towny things please?

RL stuff plus another recently finished game that took up a lot of my mental energy had me occupied, but I'm ready to play for realz here again. I still don't like Boon's claim. I don't think Ruff or FG are scum but if they're insisting on a 1v1 (which I think is a stupid ego trip move) then I'm voting FG. I'd rather not vote either though. My townread on you has paid off and we avoided lynching you, so I hope you continue to give me the benefit of the doubt.

Do you know what AK_scum would be doing right now?

He would be attempting to undermine the 1v1 to save his scumbuddy Rufflig, all while promising support to Rufflig in case plan A fell through.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:09 am

In post 3016, Wake1 wrote:I for one, want FakeGod lynched.

Put your vote down in your next post.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:12 am

In post 3018, FakeGod wrote:
In post 3016, Wake1 wrote:I for one, want FakeGod lynched.

Put your vote down in your next post.

Wake, don't ignore me.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:13 am

In post 3019, TellTaleHeart wrote:
FakeGod wrote:It was L-1.

And yet, even with the skepticism (or the "hate"), the wagon disintegrated and he wasn't lynched. The talk never translated to action.

The tracker claimed destroyed the wagon.

He was going to be lynched otherwise.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:15 am

I've been attempting to reach out to you for dozens of pages, in case you forgot.

And I'm asking you to put your vote where your mouth is.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:20 am

In post 3026, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:FG, if you're town, you're going about this completely the wrong way.

Explain.

In post 3027, Wake1 wrote:You tried blaming me for getting BBT to claim Mason after he claimed Neighbor, when I wasn't even the one who put him at L-1, and I was doing what I was supposed to do by unraveling loose threads.

I really should vote you. You've been all over the place with your weird antics this game.

And I never stopped. It was your fault.

I suggest you put your vote where your mouth is.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:22 am

Sorry.

I don't lynch my townreads.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:28 am

In post 3034, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:FG, you're presenting this false dichotomy that it's either you or Rufflig. I don't think that has to be the case today and neither of you are my top priority for lynching toDay.

You asked me to lead.

I gave you the course of action I wanted the town to take (lynch Rufflig), and I showed you my conviction (by betting my own life).

I obviously can't

force

town to lynch Rufflig, but you can't say that I'm trying my darned hardest.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:28 am

In post 3035, Wake1 wrote:Why did you post in such rapid succession at least twice, FG?

Stream of consciousness.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:40 am

In post 3038, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I don't think you need to give your life to get a lynch.

Sometimes, you need to stand up for things you believe in.

In post 3038, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:If you're both town, that's a pretty bad situation.

Good thing Rufflig is scum.

In post 3038, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You won't die tonight, if you feel the need for this, do it at a later date when you stand a better chance of hitting scum.

I'm obviously not dying after this. I've just demonstrated to scum that I can be mislynched.

But you're telling me to wait? After scum shoot you and reduce support for Rufflig lynch? Please.

And the accuracy of hitting scum by lynching Rufflig stands at 100%.

In post 3038, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Can we please lynch Flubber today. Then, if he flips scum, we can lynch AK straight after.

So what was the point of asking me to lead? So that I can sing and dance for you for naught? So you can abandon me when things don't work out?

What was the point of asking me to lead if you're not going to follow?

I was very willing to play the sideline role today, and let you direct the town, in case you forgot.

My vote was always where you asked it to be. I was there for you when I was needed.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:41 am

Perhaps it was me, who overplayed my hand.

Nevertheless, my death will prove me right.

Rufflig is scum.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:55 am

By meta.

I already said this.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:01 am

In post 3043, TellTaleHeart wrote:
The Rufflig is very close to actually being a townread,
especially
if Anatole really turns out to be scum. His vote at the 11th hour yesterday could've turned the tide toward an Anatole lynch and, given Jagged Appliance's townflip, I see very little reason for scum to do that. It doesn't make sense.

You're confused because you don't understand why Scum_Rufflig would vote Town_Jagged over Scum_AK at the 11th hour?

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:06 am

In post 2627, The Rufflig wrote:So, anything happen in the last 20 odd pages? Nope, not really. Same old arguments: check. Deadlocked on the wagons again. Wonderful.

VOTE: Anatole Kuragin

I assume you're talking about this?

As scum, he risks nothing by doing this, even if AK was scum.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:10 am

AK wagon has never gone above 4 votes, excluding Rufflig's vote.

There was never enough support for AK wagon, and it costs Rufflig nothing to switch to AK wagon.

If anything, it looked like he was waiting for someone to vote Jagged so that he could finally hammer.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:14 am

BBT, respond to my 3039.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:19 am

In post 3051, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:When you were going to lead, I was hoping you were actually going to go after scum.

You do realize that my vote was on Flub ever since you asked me to put it there, and I have never moved it?

So what was the point of asking me to lead, if I was already following your Flubber vote?

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:23 am

BBT: FG please vote Flub

FG votes Flu

b
FG: BBT, I think there are better lynches
BBT: ok you lead
FG: ok we lynch Rufflig now
BBT: oh you're not going after Flub? screw that
FG: ...

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:27 am

AK, you just said you saw Flub have some great reads as town.

Too bad you think he's scum in this game. You said so yourself.

So why are you asking him for reads? Do you think he's going to out himself and his buddies?

Contradiction.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:28 am

BBT, you're a terrible person.

You set me up to fail.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:30 am

Why are you asking a player who you believe is scum for reads?

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:31 am

I don't understand how you don't see the contradiction.

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:32 am

Take it one step at a time.

You said you think Flub is scum, correct?

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:35 am

In post 3067, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
In post 3061, FakeGod wrote:BBT, you're a terrible person.

You set me up to fail.

What? You seemed competent on D1, I was more than happy for you to lead.

Then, for some reason, this crazy guy came out D2 and started being like 'Haha, I found scum and I'm willing to give up my life if I'm wrong (so that two townies could possibly be killed and town would be in a real bad situation because I have no way of knowing that Rufflig is 100% scum)'

My approach doesn't matter.

You asked me to lead, and when I gave my scumread, you bailed and went back to whatever you were doing.

You knew I thought Flub lynch was suboptimal, yet you asked me to lead anyways and when I didn't push Flub lynch, you abandoned me.

Can you deny any of it?

FakeGod · Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:37 am

In post 3068, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 3063, FakeGod wrote:Why are you asking a player who you believe is scum for reads?

A) When I said I thought Flubber was scummy, I didn't know flub's alignment in the other game (Oman's Flying Aces)
B) I think I now have some semblance of an understanding of Flubb's meta and intend to get a better read on him in light of that
C) I'm more inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt now that I know he's a strong townie
D) Any chance of getting a decent reaction from him or any other player is being ruined by your awful attempt to misrep me in regards to all of this, or your inability to read or consider basic townie investigations because of your conceit

Ok, so you don't think Flub is scummy. You have him as null.

I understand your position.