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Eh, it's an option. At least the dice won't trick us.
Anyways, atm jason is my top suspect. Jason's "sure" gives me a weird feeling. Almost like he secretly wants me to get quicklynched.
Normally, I don't like blabbering on first impressions too early b/c of tunnelvision, but whatever.
@ Haylen, do you prefer playing as scum or town? Just curious.-
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Yeah, that's what jason's vote looks like and what it's likely to be. But at the same time, it doesn't really discount the idea of a quicklynch, even though that's what he's voting me for (presumably jokingly, of course). That's why I get a bad initial impression of it.
Anyways, I don't really want a quicklynch. But I prefer shorter days over longer ones.
A random D1 lynch is by no means a bad idea either, but it might not generate discussion heading into D2. But in this set-up, I think it's more effective than normal.-
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It's usually a back-up option, if we're not confident in our scumreads / lack of discussion. But power-roles skew this balance.Toro wrote:But we have a higher chance to lynch a town player, and then after Night 1 another townie might die, so we'd get a 3 townie v 2 scum game on Day 2. Netlava, if you're town would you really want to play with our backs that far up to the wall?
Longer days lead to more boring games which lead to inactivity which lead to apathy = bad for town.Zachrulez wrote:Why do you prefer shorter days?
Jason's vote is the one that felt weird to me.Zachrulez wrote:I was hoping for more of a reaction to it.
What about not including the SK?Haylen wrote:lol my favourite role is SK, so I prefer playing as scum. Now im off to work...
Which do you prefer btw? But there's a reason for it, and I'll answer that after Haylen answers the question.Zachrulez wrote:So Netlava, why'd you direct that alignment question at only Haylen?-
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Well, I agree a right balance is optimal.Zachrulez wrote:Not necessarily. Longer days help the town. More information is gained from longer days. There is a point where it just gets ridiculous though I will agree.
See 24. It's only an initial impression though.Zachrulez wrote:Can you explain why it felt weird?
She said SK. I'm more interested in knowing whether she prefers the traditional scum team or town, which is a bit different from SK.Zachrulez wrote:She did in 42 didn't she?-
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I can see where you're coming from, Toro, if you think quicklynches and random lynches are pretty much the same.
What I can't see is how you took this quote:
Swapped random lynches for quicklynches (when I clearly differentiated the two).Toro wrote:So you will take quicklynches as a back-up option yet you wish for a short day...
Plus if I were to take quicklynches as a back-up option, wishing for a short day would be consistent with the above premise.-
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Eh, my assumption was that random lynches result in discussion in the end, whereas a quicklynch doesn't leave time for such.Zachrulez wrote:See, now that's the confusing part for me.
I don't see how randomly lynching gives you more information when less discussion results from it.
Statistically speaking, on D1 town lynches correctly much less often than randomly lynching would. I remember reading this somewhere.-
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That's the way you understand it. That's not the way I understand it. I just thought you would think that my previous posts indicated such a differentiation when I said that I didn't want a quicklynch.Toro wrote:I switch quicklynches and random lynches because in the way I understand, it's the SAME FLIPPING THING. Lynch w/o info = quicklynch. Lynch w/o info = randomlynch/
But anyways,unvote. I'll have to think about it later.-
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Alright, I'm going to have to explain this concept here, it's called RANDOM. That means that even though town might get lynched, scum might get lynched too (gasp).
That said, I don't really care for random lynching. I made it clear from point A that's it's called a BACK-UP option. Meaning, I prefer to lynch who I find suspicious, as soon as I do find someone suspicious.-
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I didn't jump all over you. I pointed out my initial impression of you, which I also happened to call an "initial impression."jason wrote:you call for it, yet when I vote for you joking about making a quick lynch you jump all over me? how does that sit?
How would my lynch give more info than any other lynch?jason wrote:I am really beginning to think your lynch will end up giving us more info, how would ANY random lynch give us information, maybe you just want to take a chance to lynch a power role?
A quicklynch and a random lynch are 2 different things.jason wrote:I don't actually see how it is a misinterpretation... you suggested quick lynch and random lynch, both work against the town more than they work for the town.
Would you agree that having "quicklynches" in the above quote instead of "random lynches" sounds worse?Toro wrote:So you will take quicklynches as a back-up option yet you wish for a short day...
How would a random/quick lynch off a power role more so than any other lynch?Toro wrote:Random/Quick Lynch: A lynch w/o much info. You want to off a power role go ahead, be my guest.
...Because I don't know who my town-aligned partners are?Toro wrote:When I wrote that I was saying that if he was a town player then why would he be taking a larger chance at killing some of his other town-aligned partners then taking out scum?-
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It was at the start of the game. But I didn't vote you at the time.jasonT wrote:I beg to differ... you even named me as your top suspect
So will mislynching...jasonT wrote:RANDOM LYNCH IN A 7 PLAYER GAME WILL PUT US AT LYNCH OR LOSE!!!!!
And a random lynch might also hit scum.
Why do you think I haven't started to build a case on you? (curious)jasonT wrote:But you already have me as your top suspect, so instead of spouting this crap on random lynches why have you not started to build your case against me? after all I am your top suspect and already have found me suspicious?-
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Well, I said it was merely an "initial impression." It's not much. My suspicions may have grown stronger or weaker... I need to clarify some things first and maybe wait for lurkers people to post.jasonT wrote:I just found it very weird that I was at the time your top suspect
My question is: How scummy or not-scummy do you think I am?-
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Your power role point isn't valid as random lynching has an equal chance of outing scum. Plus, since I can't control random lynching, I could get lynched for all I know.jasonT1981 wrote:I think you have been very scummy, I have already outlined that and shown how I feel you where trying to out a power role along with other things in post 78.
My suspicion on you at the moment hasn't changed much from the early game.
If you think I've been "very scummy," then why are you worried about what I think of you? Scum don't really "think" about the game so much since they already know who's town and who's scum. Are you afraid of getting mislynched or something?-
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I never said that my suspicion of jasonT was only at the beginning of the game. I said that jason was my "top suspect" at the beginning of the game. Considering the fact that it was the beginning of the game, being my "top suspect" doesn't necessarily mean that I firmly think a person scum yet.
Right now, I am mildly suspicious of jason & Toro.-
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You are basically ascribing malicious intent to my suggestion of randomly lynching. Not only do I not control "random," I've also shown that the odds are no worse than normal lynching.
If anything, scum would fear random more, because they need to protect their dear roleblocker. If the the roleblocker gets lynched D1, it's almost an insta-loss for scum. I suppose that's what you mean by "power roles."-
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CSL & Haylen are both lurking pretty hard, so I don't want to make a full committment to a case with only a "mild" scumread. In fact, I'm actually pretty suspicious of both CSL & Haylen right now.
Haylen's has supposedly read the thread ("I'm rereading") but hasn't posted anything. Has been ill and busy, but is posting quite a bit in other threads.
CSL's just woke up is a lame excuse. Knows he's being pressured but hasn't read the thread. Doesn't feel like reading the thread either.-
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Quicklynches =/= random lynchToro wrote:So you will take quicklynches as a back-up option yet you wish for a short day...
If you had called it like it was, you wouldn't have swap these 2 terms around. Especially when I differentiated between these 2 terms in my earlier posts.
Completely opposite of what I've been saying. (repeatedly)Toro wrote:- Would take a quicklynch, and he thinks it will help the town.
Feels like you are intentionally misinterpreting my posts.
Don't recall saying this anywhere.Toro wrote:- He's been pretty adamant about that we still only have a chance to bag scum D1, it's as if he's being ignorant to the odds.
Still don't recall saying this anywhere.Toro wrote:Didn't you just say that your original suspicion on Jason was only at the beginning of the game?
Softclaim = scummy. Why? In Toro's own words:Toro wrote:Random/Quick Lynch: A lynch w/o much info. You want to off a power role go ahead, be my guest.
---Toro wrote:Then that just gives scum the chance to pick 'em off at night, dude, think.
Overall, it seems like you are just making stuff up.-
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Also, early on, I attempted to clarify my suspicions on you with the following post:
Yet, you're still saying that I want a quicklynch. After many repeated transgressions, I think it has to be deliberate.Netlava wrote:That's the way you understand it. That's not the way I understand it. I just thought you would think that my previous posts indicated such a differentiation when I said that I didn't want a quicklynch.-
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Explain where I said this.Toro wrote:You did want one, even though as a backup plan, you still wanted one.
I postponed my case in order to whine about lurkers. That way, I can 1) Get them to catch up or replace out 2) Have some semblance of a read on themToro wrote:Something I don't get though is, you've stated all of these reasons before, yet why did you previously postpone your case against me?-
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^ Quicklynch =/= random lynch
Also, I was just thinking over the game, and I noticed how you said:
Looks like a possible slip to me. Especially when you apparently find Haylen scummy.Toro wrote:But nobody except the cop canverifythat, so it's still possible that you are in fact scum.
I said that a random lynch has an equal chance of outing a power role as it does outing scum. Two power roles, two scum.Toro wrote:Here's a post of yours where you claim that a random lynch has an equal chance of getting scum as it does town, 5 town v 2 scum Netlava, your knowledge of math disturbs me.-
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