Open 167 - Pie E7 Game over, quick like. before 844

[Netlava]

Wanted to hear from the lurkers before I made up my mind, but now that it's been partially addressed,

Vote: Toro

[Toro]

Problem with that Haylen, we weren't throwing more questions at you, we were just telling you to post your thoughts which you constantly failed to do.

*shrugs* I feel the need to comment on every post by a player, if I am not repeating myself and I like having all of post analysis in one post. Can't do that if I'm being simulposted.

Understandable.

Wanted to hear from the lurkers before I made up my mind, but now that it's been partially addressed,

Vote: Toro

Case or BS.

Tags fixed.

[Netlava]

Alright, then, case will be coming. *suspense*

[Haylen]

Sorry for the simulposting, Netlava.

Toro, can you answer my question now please?

[Netlava]

So you will take quicklynches as a back-up option yet you wish for a short day...

Quicklynches =/= random lynch

If you had called it like it was, you wouldn't have swap these 2 terms around. Especially when I differentiated between these 2 terms in my earlier posts.

- Would take a quicklynch, and he thinks it will help the town.

Completely opposite of what I've been saying. (repeatedly)

Feels like you are intentionally misinterpreting my posts.

- He's been pretty adamant about that we still only have a chance to bag scum D1, it's as if he's being ignorant to the odds.

Don't recall saying this anywhere.

Didn't you just say that your original suspicion on Jason was only at the beginning of the game?

Still don't recall saying this anywhere.

Random/Quick Lynch: A lynch w/o much info. You want to off a power role go ahead, be my guest.

Softclaim = scummy. Why? In Toro's own words:

Then that just gives scum the chance to pick 'em off at night, dude, think.

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Overall, it seems like you are just making stuff up.

[Netlava]

Also, early on, I attempted to clarify my suspicions on you with the following post:

That's the way you understand it. That's not the way I understand it. I just thought you would think that my previous posts indicated such a differentiation when I said that I didn't want a quicklynch.

Yet, you're still saying that I want a quicklynch. After many repeated transgressions, I think it has to be deliberate.

[Toro]

You did want one, even though as a backup plan, you still wanted one. Something I don't get though is, you've stated all of these reasons before, yet why did you previously postpone your case against me?

And I am not making stuff up, you just can't see how scummy you came off.

[Netlava]

You did want one, even though as a backup plan, you still wanted one.

Explain where I said this.

Something I don't get though is, you've stated all of these reasons before, yet why did you previously postpone your case against me?

I postponed my case in order to whine about lurkers. That way, I can 1) Get them to catch up or replace out 2) Have some semblance of a read on them

[Toro]

I think you have been very scummy, I have already outlined that and shown how I feel you where trying to out a power role along with other things in post 78.

Your power role point isn't valid as random lynching has an equal chance of outing scum. Plus, since I can't control random lynching, I could get lynched for all I know.

My suspicion on you at the moment hasn't changed much from the early game.

If you think I've been "very scummy," then why are you worried about what I think of you? Scum don't really "think" about the game so much since they already know who's town and who's scum. Are you afraid of getting mislynched or something?

Here's a post of yours where you claim that a random lynch has an

equal

chance of getting scum as it does town, 5 town v 2 scum Netlava, your knowledge of math disturbs me. And I know you didn't ask to bring this up but while I was looking back for that post here's something peculiar I found. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this piece of info?

Now back to proving you wrong...

Well, either way random lynching is a back-up option in case discussion never gets started.

I'd like to think I have some reads now. Who knows.

Well here you go Netlava.

[Netlava]

^ Quicklynch =/= random lynch

Also, I was just thinking over the game, and I noticed how you said:

But nobody except the cop can

verify

that, so it's still possible that you are in fact scum.

Looks like a possible slip to me. Especially when you apparently find Haylen scummy.

Here's a post of yours where you claim that a random lynch has an equal chance of getting scum as it does town, 5 town v 2 scum Netlava, your knowledge of math disturbs me.

I said that a random lynch has an equal chance of outing a power role as it does outing scum. Two power roles, two scum.

[Zachrulez]

The claim is premature. I think people should claim only when a 4th player intends to hammer.

I don't know about premature.

I have issues with vanilla claiming though. (I probably didn't make my position on that clear enough when I said she should have a chance to claim.)

I just wanted her to have a chance to claim on the off chance she was a power role.

[Zachrulez]

I still prefer lynching Haylen, but I also wouldn't mind one of Toro at this point either. I'm not getting good vibes on him, and he's really been buddying up to me hard.

[Sotty7]

Vote count 1.g

Haylen [3]: Zachrulez, Toro, jasonT1981

Toro [3]: afatchic, Haylen, Netlava

Not voting [1]:

KittyMo

With

7

players alive it takes

4

to lynch

Deadline: Wednesday 23rd of September at midnight CST.

Prods: None needed as of yet.

Mod Note: KittyMo has asked to be replaced.

[Haylen]

Toro, are you going to answer my question?

[Toro]

Toro, are you going to answer my question?

Sorry, had a 5 hour shift at work and now I'm back...

Why are you misrepresenting me? and didnt you do the same thing to Netlava earlier in the game?

Haylen I wasn't misrepresenting you at all, you WERE stalling. And no I didn't misrepresent Netlava earlier as he IS a fan of randomlynches (and would use a quicklynch as a backup plan) and refuses to believe that it's not a 50/50 shot of taking down scum using those tactics, with a 7 player game, we don't have much room to mislynch, and he remains ignorant towards that fact.

Looks like a possible slip to me. Especially when you apparently find Haylen scummy.

Can you please explain to me how that looks like a slip?

I still prefer lynching Haylen, but I also wouldn't mind one of Toro at this point either. I'm not getting good vibes on him, and he's really been buddying up to me hard.

Zach I wouldn't say I've been 'buddying' up with you, it's just that we share the same thoughts.

And Holy Shit I'm at L-1...

Listen guys, I guarentee you that both members of the mafia are on my bandwagon right now, them being Haylen and Netlava. I am a Vanilla Townie, of course there's no way I can prove that, but if you investigate me at night you will find that I am in fact town. Afatchic, KittyMo's replacement, vote for Haylen.

[Netlava]

Mostly waiting for a possible hammer at this point.

Can you please explain to me how that looks like a slip?

Saying "verify" that Haylen is town is something someone leaning town on Haylen would say.

[Toro]

Of course you are, scum. If I'm lynched I'm guarenteeing that the rest of the town will take you down D2.

I'm saying, we don't know exactly what Haylen is.

[Zachrulez]

Of course you are, scum. If I'm lynched I'm guarenteeing that the rest of the town will take you down D2.

I'm saying, we don't know exactly what Haylen is.

But you know Netlava is scum and aren't voting for him?

[Haylen]

We don't know what you are either, but I've told everyone my role and since you're at L-1, you should aswell.

[Toro]

I'm Vanilla Townie as well, and to Zach: I'm convinced that Haylen is scum as well, so take down one scum partner today and the other on Day 2.

[Netlava]

I'm Vanilla Townie

as well

What do you mean by

as well

?

[Toro]

Haylen said she is a Vanilla Townie, I said I'm Vanilla Townie as well. If I survive Day 1 I invite the Cop to come and investigate me.

[Netlava]

Ok, whatever. I thought it was a slip at first.

[Toro]

Ok,

whatever

. I thought it was a slip at first.

What's with the whatever? Disappointed you couldn't make me look like scum?

[Netlava]

Can you summarize why you think I'm scum again? Also, why do you think Haylen is scum?