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[jasonT1981]

Haylen said she is a Vanilla Townie, I said I'm Vanilla Townie as well. If I survive Day 1 I invite the Cop to come and investigate me.

So you would be happy to out a cop to verify your status? fishy indeed

[Toro]

Haylen said she is a Vanilla Townie, I said I'm Vanilla Townie as well. If I survive Day 1 I invite the Cop to come and investigate me.

So you would be happy to out a cop to verify your status? fishy indeed

Only as a last resort just to prove myself on Day 2, but I doubt that will be necessary.

[jasonT1981]

or we cud lynch you now to avoid that.... just sayin

[Toro]

Can you summarize why you think I'm scum again? Also, why do you think Haylen is scum?

You're kidding right?

[Toro]

or we cud lynch you now to avoid that.... just sayin

If you lynch me now, I hope it will give you the guys the motivation to pursue Netlava and Haylen in the coming days. Although I'd prefer to stay alive.

[Toro]

Here's a question Netlava, why

don't

you find Haylen to be scummy?

[Netlava]

More importantly, why do you find Haylen scummy?

[Haylen]

Yes, why do you find me scummy? Because of my absense? cause I provided you will full reasons for that. Refusing to post my thoughts? I can't really do a PBPA with people still posting, I also explained that to you. Other than those things, there is no reason to think of me as scum, slightly anti-town at worse. But since I've returned, i have scumhunted, have I not?

[Zachrulez]

or we cud lynch you now to avoid that.... just sayin

Does that mean you find Toro scummy? You seemed to think he wasn't really that scummy earlier.

[Zachrulez]

And at this point I know Haylen thinks Toro is scum, (I am consequently finding him scummy myself.) but I don't know what she thinks about anyone else.

[jasonT1981]

or we cud lynch you now to avoid that.... just sayin

Does that mean you find Toro scummy? You seemed to think he wasn't really that scummy earlier.

I find the fact he is wanting a cop to clear him strange, it seems like he is trying to out the cop

[Sotty7]

Vote count 1.h

Haylen [3]: Zachrulez, Toro, jasonT1981

Toro [3]: afatchic, Haylen, Netlava

Not voting [1]:

KittyMo

With

7

players alive it takes

4

to lynch

Deadline: Wednesday 23rd of September at midnight CST.

Prods: Will check tomorrow

[Toro]

or we cud lynch you now to avoid that.... just sayin

Does that mean you find Toro scummy? You seemed to think he wasn't really that scummy earlier.

I find the fact he is wanting a cop to clear him strange, it seems like he is trying to out the cop

No, no, not at all. If he doesn't want to come out and clear me then he doesn't have to me, he's not my puppet y'know.

[Toro]

More importantly, why do you find Haylen scummy?

Answer the question.

Yes, why do you find me scummy? Because of my absense? cause I provided you will full reasons for that. Refusing to post my thoughts? I can't really do a PBPA with people still posting, I also explained that to you. Other than those things, there is no reason to think of me as scum, slightly anti-town at worse. But since I've returned, i have scumhunted, have I not?

You've been stalling with posting your thoughts as if you were thinking over your thoughts and didn't want to point directions toward other people, notice how your thoughts were just on me. It seems as if you and Netlava were both trying to single me out. And in earlier cases when you just check in saying "Sorry I'm sick" you could've at least attempted to catch up. It's not like you're the only one whoever gets sick.

[Haylen]

You've been stalling with posting your thoughts as if you were thinking over your thoughts and didn't want to point directions toward other people, notice how your thoughts were just on me. It seems as if you and Netlava were both trying to single me out. And in earlier cases when you just check in saying "Sorry I'm sick" you could've at least attempted to catch up. It's not like you're the only one whoever gets sick.

You are wrong. I wasnt stalling, i explained that. I never said I was sick in the game before, I said I was busy. I'm not singling anyone one. I know I'm not the only one whoever gets sick. Now i leave for work.

[Toro]

You've been stalling with posting your thoughts as if you were thinking over your thoughts and didn't want to point directions toward other people, notice how your thoughts were just on me. It seems as if you and Netlava were both trying to single me out. And in earlier cases when you just check in saying "Sorry I'm sick" you could've at least attempted to catch up. It's not like you're the only one whoever gets sick.

You are wrong. I wasnt stalling, i explained that. I never said I was sick in the game before, I said I was busy. I'm not singling anyone one. I know I'm not the only one whoever gets sick. Now i leave for work.

Let me do an analysis of your posts that

PROVE

my points.

CAPS

for emphasis.

I'm rereading. Sorry, been busy.

You're busy, understandable.

Really ill right now, will post my thoughts when I feel better...

You've just said you're

SICK.

Lol, I just had to check I was actually in this game...aftere posting the above...

Fluff.

Hi, Haylen here. Still pretty ill, went the majority of yesterday slipping in an out of consciousness. Apparently, I made a post in site ideas whilst pretty delusional...that wasn't cool.

Anyway, I'm going to post my thoughts this afternoon, if I can find the strength to, I have to go round looking at houses to rent for uni...whilst ill...yay...

bye for now.

You've said you're

SICK AGAIN.

I am in the middle of writing up my thoughts. I have a bunch of notes right now, and I cant post them cause that isnt perfect. I will try and have it done by tonight, but it's 1am now.

I agree with the toro case though.

And Netlava, I prefer playing as scum, if you want to be like that. I've only been scum twice. Once as SK, once as godfather.

No one cares if your thoughts are perfect Haylen, we're just interested in knowing what they were. This is a case for

STALLING.

And here is your first post where you agree on someone's case, it's

MINE.

Or we could give haylen a chance to actually write her post to perfection cause she's a bloody perfectionist, you know? She's been busy all effing day...work, then sorting everything out for uni and moving out...her life is chaotic and she asks you to bare with her for a sec.

You've had plenty of time to write your perfect post with your perfect thoughts, you're pointing at me currently saying I'm scum, that's

NOT PERFECT.

And you were still taking your time typing up your notes, this is another case of

STALLING.

Never said it was. But it involves perfection. Have to be perfect in it. Perfect posts, perfect scumhunting, perfect everything.

You're currently singling out and scumhunting

ONLY ME,

this is also

NOT PERFECT SCUMHUNTING.

im not stalling, I'm a perfectionist. You can go read Newbie 800 too, everything is explained there.

Way to twist my words. Twisting words and Misreping = scumtell. I seem to remember you did that to Netlava aswell earlier in the game.

I was not twisting your words or misrepping you, you were

STALLING.

Stalling. No. Outside circumstances. Yes. Tell me, how much experience do you have with people who are ill ect or cant post for various reasons? How many were town? How many times have i done the same thing and been town?

I have plenty of experience, I was able to play mafia on the other site I go to to play mafia,

WHILE I HAD THE H1N1 VIRUS

(don't believe the hype, it's not gonna kill ya.)

And also with this post you were continuing to

STALL.

Are you going to answer my question? Why are you misrepresenting me? and didnt you do the same thing to Netlava earlier in the game?

Another case of

STALLING.

In no way does that answer my question.

Didn't have to, you still failed to post your thoughts like we've requested.

STALLING BY PUTTING THE ATTENTION ON ME, IE: SINGLING ME OUT.

unvote
vtoe toro

for being anti-town in the fact they he will not respond to my scumhunting with an adequate answer...which he admitted to in the post above me. And also for misreping myself, and Netlava at the beginning of the game and then not answering why then, either (i think)

Semi-defense of Netlava here, refusing to post her thoughts when she was still asked to.

STALLING.

STILL NO ATTENTION HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO ANYONE ELSE WITH HER PERFECT SCUMHUNTING.

I know. Dont wind me up about the spelling, it is making me twitchy knowing that it exists on the page...

It's called going back and reading it over before you post it.

PERFECT MY ASS.

tell me, where are the others? Afa, and everyone?

A completely unrelated post to what we've been going through, another case of

STALLING.

Are you going to ride their asses when they return, or are you just trying to place suspicion on me, so they will believe me to be scum?

[sarcasm]I doubt they have donkeys on their property.[/sarcasm]

She still refuses to post her thoughts and is now accusing me of trying to push her too hard. Another case of

STALLING.

why wont you answer the question?

She

STILL

refuses to post her thoughts.

STALLING.

[quote="Haylen 206]*sigh*
i am trying to but you keep posting which means i keep replying. Now if you stop posting until I have posted my thoughts, we might get somewhere. [/quote]

BULLSHIT.

You could've said this an hour earlier, this I read as just asking for time to still try and

STALL

yourself from posting your thoughts.

Toro, STFU, I am seriously not in the mood to deal with your petty insults. I have defended myself, whether or not you fucking listen is another matter.

I've just replaced out of another game for the reasons I have given you for my absense, now if that isnt proof enough, i dont know what is, cause I've never replaced out of a game before. You can go check them all if you wish, they're on my wiki.

You have not defended yourself at all Haylen,

AT ALL

, just saying you're busy doesn't cut it. And you're still

STALLING

here.

Right. My thoughts will be in my next post.

claim Vanilla Townie

I ask you to listen to my thoughts and take them into consideration if you're going to lynch me. Even if I'm lynched I will win with the town

After rereading through this it seems as if Zachrulez has been coaching you.

EVERYONE, IF WE LYNCH HAYLEN I SUGGEST WE NOW ALSO LOOK INTO ZACHRULEZ

Ok, I can't seem to be able to post my thoughts as I was thinking of doing before, because my mind appears to not be working too greatly tonight. So I will do a PBPA of each player instead, it shouldnt take too long.

Toro (47 Posts)
Post 1 - Confirmation. So far so good.
Post 2 - Made a comment about a guy named Brett, dont understand this.
Post 3 - Useless comment.
Post 4 - Tries to pressure people into posting. I interpret this as him trying to push for a lynch.
Post 5/6 - Eyebrows...hmm...
Post 7 - Asks if somebody is thirsty for blood, but does not say it in a town like way. I would expect a townie to say something more along of the lines of 'Are you pushing for a lynch?' or something similar. I would expect scum to say what he said. Yet, he appears to be pushing for a lynch in his forth post...hypocritical...
Post 8 - Can be interpretted in two ways. In a town way, he is saying that we need to be careful with who we lynch today because we are more likely to hit town. But on the scummy side, the way he speaks to Netlava could be seen as coaching because of the italics. I read it as 'Do we really want to have our backs up against the wall like that? *wink wink*' And also the fact that he refers to Netlava specifically there as in 'do me and you, Netlava, really want...' sounds as though he is speaking out of the town team.
Post 9 - Useless comment
Post 10 - Makes good points about netlava's quicklynching comment.

Appears to be randomly pointing fingers (although I am reading this whole thing in iso)

Post 14 - Soft claims powerrole, yet does not specify which. I see it as a rouse to be able to claim a powerrole without having a counterclaim.
Post 15 - Appears to be coaching. Although, he does make a good point there.
Post 17 - Agrees that random lynching is bad. This is a good point towards him.
Post 19 - The mixup between quicklynch and random lynch is understandable.
Post 20 - How sure were you that he was scum?
Post 21/22 - I agree with the questioning of CSL on those points.
Post 23 - Reading between the lines it looks as though he is worried about himself being quicklynched...or he is trying to subtly role fish. Which is scummy.
Also...umm...he couldnt be a mason anyway, because this is an open game...
Post 24 - Agree with the point against Netlava.
Post 25 - Useless comment.
Post 26 - Despite what he may think, toro did not make it clear why he is suspicious of Netlava.
Post 27 - I still dont understand the Netlava suspicion, maybe that is intentional and he is just trying to distance from him.
Post 28 - I dont do Maths.
Post 29 - Useless comment.

Why are you not questioning Kitty for CSL's actions, or lack thereof in some cases?

Appears to be points fingures quite a bit.

Refuses to answer my question.

His post count is not indicative of what he has actually brought to the game, since at least a quatre of them are useless comments...tied in with the confirmation...

That's Toro. There's some thoughts. I will post more shortly, on other players.

Notice that her thoughts are

ONLY OF ME.

And we are still awaiting

YOUR THOUGHTS OF THE OTHERS.

Another case of

STALLING.

Why? I just claimed Vanilla.

This sounds like a cry saying, no I can't be scum I just

SAID

I'm Vanilla! Unlike me, I

KNOW

that if the cop investigates me I will come up town.

Nope, I just hate simulposting. Hang on, I shall retrieve a paragraph I wrote in a mega rant about it

Haylen, we

NEVER POSED MORE QUESTIONS

towards you. We just told you to

POST YOUR THOUGHTS.

*shrugs* I feel the need to comment on every post by a player, if I am not repeating myself and I like having all of post analysis in one post. Can't do that if I'm being simulposted.

SEE MY ANALYSIS OF HAYLEN'S 222

We don't know what you are either, but I've told everyone my role and since you're at L-1, you should aswell.

The

COP WILL KNOW MY ROLE ONCE HE INVESTIGATES ME.

And

HE'LL KNOW YOU'RE SCUM IF HE INVESTIGATES YOU.

Yes, why do you find me scummy? Because of my absense? cause I provided you will full reasons for that. Refusing to post my thoughts? I can't really do a PBPA with people still posting, I also explained that to you. Other than those things, there is no reason to think of me as scum, slightly anti-town at worse. But since I've returned, i have scumhunted, have I not?

I kept posting and you

POSTED YOUR ACCUSATIONS/THOUGHTS OF ME.

Another case of

SINGLING ME OUT.

[Toro]

After rereading through this it seems as if Zachrulez has been coaching you.

EVERYONE, IF WE LYNCH HAYLEN I SUGGEST WE NOW ALSO LOOK INTO ZACHRULEZ

This being if she comes up scum, which she will.

[Netlava]

Unvote

Alright, I'll give Toro another read-through to make sure if he is scum.

[Zachrulez]

Looking at 265...

Wow.

[Zachrulez]

After rereading through this it seems as if Zachrulez has been coaching you.

EVERYONE, IF WE LYNCH HAYLEN I SUGGEST WE NOW ALSO LOOK INTO ZACHRULEZ

This being if she comes up scum, which she will.

Coaching? Show me where you think I'm coaching.

Also I would suggest you look through at who's been pushing the Haylen wagon to viability and rethink how likely a zachrulez/haylen pairing really is.

[Zachrulez]

I tend to see Toro as frustrated town at this point BTW.

[jasonT1981]

The claim is premature. I think people should claim only when a 4th player intends to hammer.

not really considering she is at -1

What? You don't think someone would've came out of nowhere and just dropped one? I still say there's a good chance that Haylen is scum now though.

Why? I just claimed Vanilla.

But nobody except the cop can verify that, so it's still possible that you are in fact scum.

Hmm again hinting at a cop clearence/guilty... I really see Toro as desperate to out the cop, I really do

Problem with that Haylen, we weren't throwing more questions at you, we were just telling you to post your thoughts which you constantly failed to do.

Yea, but the problem with that is the more we posted at her, the more she responded taking away from her posting her thoughts....

Wanted to hear from the lurkers before I made up my mind, but now that it's been partially addressed,

Vote: Toro

any reasons?

I still prefer lynching Haylen, but I also wouldn't mind one of Toro at this point either. I'm not getting good vibes on him, and he's really been buddying up to me hard.

I think I would support a Toro lynch right now, it does seem he wants to out the cop despritly as I have pointed out before.

Mostly waiting for a possible hammer at this point.

not really sure if I like this comment. Seems like you want a hammer to cut off discussion

Of course you are, scum. If I'm lynched I'm guarenteeing that the rest of the town will take you down D2.

I'm saying, we don't know exactly what Haylen is.

But you know Netlava is scum and aren't voting for him?

was about to make the same point about this......

Haylen said she is a Vanilla Townie, I said I'm Vanilla Townie as well. If I survive Day 1 I invite the Cop to come and investigate me.

AGAIN trying to out the cop????

Haylen said she is a Vanilla Townie, I said I'm Vanilla Townie as well. If I survive Day 1 I invite the Cop to come and investigate me.

So you would be happy to out a cop to verify your status? fishy indeed

Only as a last resort just to prove myself on Day 2, but I doubt that will be necessary.

last resort? but you have been harping on about it as if it should happen...I am really uncomfortable with your constant calling for a cop

Can you summarize why you think I'm scum again? Also, why do you think Haylen is scum?

You're kidding right?

no, he asked you to summerize, I think its a fair question.

or we cud lynch you now to avoid that.... just sayin

Does that mean you find Toro scummy? You seemed to think he wasn't really that scummy earlier.

I find the fact he is wanting a cop to clear him strange, it seems like he is trying to out the cop

No, no, not at all. If he doesn't want to come out and clear me then he doesn't have to me, he's not my puppet y'know.

but if a cop can clear you, then he really should for if we mislynch its Lynch or Lose, I just feel you are trying to out a cop

OK now for Toros wonder post... WOW lol...

I can buy Haylen being sick and not posting, sure if you can post when sick all and well but i can relate as when I am sick i like to kick back and not bother with mafia at all.

Right that major post has me wondering.. I was considering a vote on Toro effectivly hammering him before obsobrbing that huge clusterfuck but I do agree with Zach that he is now seeming more like fustrated townie from that post. I would be happier with a Netlava lynch right now. Still not 100% on Haylen. I think I need a bit more convincing on that.

[jasonT1981]

Sorry, my thoughts cut off. Netlavas vote on Toro seems very weird to me, he puts someone at -1 and gives absolutely no reasoning to it what so ever. seems very bold and ambitious... not wanting to make a hammer but wanting to be on the wagon.. his comment about just waiting for the hammer tops it off for me...

I cant find the right word to describe Netlavas vote, Its on the tip on my tongue but i cant remember it! ARGH!"

[Zachrulez]

Ah yes, Netlava.

I'd like to see that case on Toro now as I'm fascinated with the unvote after that ranty post.

[Zachrulez]

Also @mod, any word on the replacement situation?

I'd like to get some stances from that player slot.