Mini Normal 2303 [Postgame!!!!]

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: undetermined idk if there will be any L

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Ausuka

Fire can be blue

[Asri Teroka]

Fire can be balls

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Hu Tao for not talking about fire.

[Asri Teroka]

Orange is superior no public orange hate allowed here.

[Asri Teroka]

Water is better

[Asri Teroka]

asri tekora also lurk confirmed
139 logic bad

Touch grass.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Ausuka

[Asri Teroka]

UNVOTE: Cook
Removing my RVS vote that this one has zero attachment to. Importantly, this one is very curious about how and why this wagon has picked up so fast.

This one thinks you're town.

[Asri Teroka]

1) She says, "man i’m having a real hard time following this game! y’all are posting so much"

You are all posting too much this one says Cook is right here.

[Asri Teroka]

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

agree with you there. i don't know if it's even an issue, but regardless, i think it's respectable to be offended at a wagon on me when the game's barely started

Yes.

[Asri Teroka]

I like Ausuka's posts so far and I particularly kind of mind melded with these as I was skimming through

I think wagons are protown and the concern feels overblown to me

There's nothing protown about rushing a wagon to E-2 within like 4 hours of the game starting.

I think early wagons are fine, I think e-2 is really not that big of a deal, and I don't think the wagon is 'rushed' - I like the Cook vote

Please tell this one how these posts make Ausuka seem town. They are pretty generic and can be made by either alignment. This one doesn't believe you have enough to be forming that read here.

[Asri Teroka]

Going back to 215. I like HighPrincess and Invisibility for town. It's just a certain townie tone to their posts, especially Invisibility. This leaves Cook and Asri.

For now VOTE: Asri

It's really late here though. I'll have to go more in depth tomorrow. Ciao peeps.

Leaves cook and Asri for what? Your delusions? You sound fake and aligned here, this one is placing you in the 'not taking serious pile.'

This one isn't convinced you actually formed a townread on Erynis.

Furthermore, what you seem to be doing is hunting mis-elims, not scum.

[Asri Teroka]

I do like the Cook wagon but I think there could easily be at least one scum on it. I'm putting HPE and Ausuka on my town side for now. I need to look more at fire's posts but I remember them being mostly fluff (could be wrong, I'm a little drunk)

I like my Invisibility vote atm

Also why do you like the cook wagon wagon what's so likeable about it? Charismatic personalities? Scum have those as well. Nothing else this one saw that's likeable so please share.

[Asri Teroka]

I think wagons are protown and the concern feels overblown to me

There's nothing protown about rushing a wagon to E-2 within like 4 hours of the game starting.

I think early wagons are fine, I think e-2 is really not that big of a deal, and I don't think the wagon is 'rushed' - I like the Cook vote

This

And you're also sheeping Ausuka posts that can be NAI and are generic throwaway statememts.

[Asri Teroka]

so that leaves katykimfanclub, ausuka, and fireisredsir unanswered for their votes. not going to jump to conclusions yet but i think there's a red somewhere in these three, statistically at least.

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What?

[Asri Teroka]

There's nothing protown about rushing a wagon to E-2 within like 4 hours of the game starting.

I think early wagons are fine, I think e-2 is really not that big of a deal, and I don't think the wagon is 'rushed' - I like the Cook vote

Genuine question, are we all interacting just to have a corpus of information for later days or is there just disagreement from an optimal play perspective on whether an early bandwagon is good or not. It looks to me like Cook was never in any real danger of getting enough votes to be killed and we should all move on.

VOTE: UNVOTE: Cook

I agree Cook was never in any actual danger. I think wagons are good for having information for later days, and e-2 is really not that big of a deal, whereas some people think e-2 is like Serious Business. I think the people saying that probably genuinely believe it although that doesn't necessarily make them town.

So, to this one: You're not naming names but you are insinuating that cook is sus from defending themselves from a flash wagon you were on, while undermining her saying there could have b3en scum on it.

[Asri Teroka]

Provisional Town

Erynis
Cook
fireisredsir
Imaginality

Provisional Scum

Ausuka
ItalianoVD

[Asri Teroka]

Oh this one also has Black under prov town

[Asri Teroka]

Day 1 Votecount 2

Invisibility (2):

iamveryhappy, Black

HighPrincessErinys (2):

Cook, fireisredsir

T3 (1):

ItalianoVD

Ausuka (1):

Arsi Teroka

fireisredsir (1):

Invisibility

Cook (1):

Ausuka

Not Voting (5):

T3, Something_Smart, Hu Tao, HighPrincessErinys, KatyKimFanClub

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to reach majority.

There are (expired on 2023-06-20 13:00:00) remaining.

Glorious orange sheep overlord, ItalionoVD has deigned to vote this one.

mod note: fixed

[Asri Teroka]

You seem to be fully trusting ItalianoVD?

[Asri Teroka]

Ausuka

[Asri Teroka]

Why can't Cook's actions be natural here? If this one was placed in elimination range within a mere day of busy posts, many long, they might also be bothered. And Cook not being this one having her own life might be more bothered.

Do you have any experience with Cook to guage them on this level? Most of your arguments seem to rest on such a conclusion.

A lot of people are sheeping your sentiments on wagons and early wagons but forget that randomly running up town can be severely anti town, especially day ones and especially if claims are forced. It's also a good way for scum to pr hunt. So. Black and Italiano straight up agreeing with you, this one notes it.

[Asri Teroka]

What do you think about the two main wagons? This one has realized a lot their provisional towns are voting other provisional towns.

[Asri Teroka]

UNVOTE:

[Asri Teroka]

What do you think about the two main wagons? This one has realized a lot their provisional towns are voting other provisional towns.

[Asri Teroka]

Going back to 215. I like HighPrincess and Invisibility for town. It's just a certain townie tone to their posts, especially Invisibility. This leaves Cook and Asri.

For now VOTE: Asri

It's really late here though. I'll have to go more in depth tomorrow. Ciao peeps.

Leaves cook and Asri for what? Your delusions? You sound fake and aligned here, this one is placing you in the 'not taking serious pile.'

This one isn't convinced you actually formed a townread on Erynis.

Furthermore, what you seem to be doing is hunting mis-elims, not scum.

So you must've not read 215...

Spoiler:

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

agree with you there. i don't know if it's even an issue, but regardless, i think it's respectable to be offended at a wagon on me when the game's barely started

doubt a townie would have lolhammered anyhow

yah

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

this is reasonable!

Either way this one is suspect of the wagon getting so far so fast on so little reasoning to vote.

agree with you there. i don't know if it's even an issue, but regardless, i think it's respectable to be offended at a wagon on me when the game's barely started

Yes.

Hmm. Somebody here is scum.

I thought this little combo of agreement between you four looked suspicious as all get up. It feels like a pocketing attempt from someone. Invis is town for me, Princess as well, a little less so, but still there. I don't know if I feel like Cook would really be that distraught of having five votes on her early in game. I feel like she's played the game enough to have gone through it more than once. I don't really know what to feel about her right now. I think the concern of the wagon is overblown and I believe a scum or two may have jumped on that sentiment. You actually fit that bill as you were and have been the one on the outside looking in. Kind of poking at the attackers and agreeing with the offended. Judging from your response seems like I might be onto something.

VOTE: Asri

You already voted lol. This one's response is pretty simple, you're grasping at straws. You still feel like chasing mis elims. Perhaps you don't want to push too many towns. Regardless nothing you say has any sense behind it, in regards to this one.

[Asri Teroka]

This one will reply later Black

[Asri Teroka]

You already voted lol. This one's response is pretty simple, you're grasping at straws. You still feel like chasing mis elims. Perhaps you don't want to push too many towns. Regardless nothing you say has any sense behind it, in regards to this one.

can you elaborate on what you don't like about Italiano's logic?

Logic?

[Asri Teroka]

I like Ausuka's posts so far and I particularly kind of mind melded with these as I was skimming through

I think wagons are protown and the concern feels overblown to me

There's nothing protown about rushing a wagon to E-2 within like 4 hours of the game starting.

I think early wagons are fine, I think e-2 is really not that big of a deal, and I don't think the wagon is 'rushed' - I like the Cook vote

Please tell this one how these posts make Ausuka seem town. They are pretty generic and can be made by either alignment. This one doesn't believe you have enough to be forming that read here.

A lot of people are sheeping your sentiments on wagons and early wagons but forget that randomly running up town can be severely anti town, especially day ones and especially if claims are forced. It's also a good way for scum to pr hunt. So. Black and Italiano straight up agreeing with you, this one notes it.

if the thoughts are generic and anyone could have come up with them, then why are you framing the people agreeing with them as sheeping? i don't think you can have both

either it's an original insight, and people saw it and decided to follow along, or it's a generic thought that a lot of people would naturally agree with

fwiw i think it's the latter

This one has little time for semantics. Basically, agreeing with generic points or using them as the basis for a townread can be sheeping. Black felt more analytic. Italiano was a headnodder.

If Ausuka is town and Italiano scum it is sheeping of generic points to pocket.

Your assertion is flawed in its dualistic exclusionism. Agreement with generic statements is still agreement, this one never said it is alignment indicative but the fact of the matter is it happened.

Furthermore, just because a statement is generic does not mean that it is valid. The underlying issue here is the cook wagon yet you exclude this fact to focus only on whether it is valid for this one to note patterns that might lead to readforming.


This one is curious why you are saying this at all. While you don't feel scummy this is a sidetrack.

[Asri Teroka]

Asri I'm confused about your progression here. In the first quote it seems like you're suggesting I have an informed read on Ausuka. Where does the townread come from?

Don't be confused, you're reading too much into it. This one has you as provisional town because you've felt town.

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This one has little time for semantics. Basically, agreeing with generic points or using them as the basis for a townread can be sheeping. Black felt more analytic. Italiano was a headnodder.

If Ausuka is town and Italiano scum it is sheeping of generic points to pocket.

Your assertion is flawed in its dualistic exclusionism. Agreement with generic statements is still agreement, this one never said it is alignment indicative but the fact of the matter is it happened.

Furthermore, just because a statement is generic does not mean that it is valid. The underlying issue here is the cook wagon yet you exclude this fact to focus only on whether it is valid for this one to note patterns that might lead to readforming.


This one is curious why you are saying this at all. While you don't feel scummy this is a sidetrack.

that thought process makes a lot more sense to me, especially saying that italiano felt like generic agreement in order to pocket

i was asking about it bc it didn't make sense to me and i wanted to see if it was a real thought you had with internal consistency or if it was you looking for easy reasons to shade people without critically thinking about them

it now feels more like a real thought to me so ty for clarifying. semantics matter, this is a game of words

Thank you, you feel genuine to this one here. While semantics matter here, it is still a game so this one has little desire to argue in circles about words but overall get and got what you're saying.

[Asri Teroka]

Italiano has given town vibes but not enough to sway this one. For now what they're saying is sort of blurry and this one honestly feels like not really reading their posts, much less engaging. In honesty this one is tired to try and parse whether bad pushes come from scum or town lol.


Give it a few days.

[Asri Teroka]

Cook, is fire saying anything of substance at the moment?

[Asri Teroka]

Ausuka

[Asri Teroka]

If Erynis and Cook were to be scum... who would be the partner? Veryhappy?

[Asri Teroka]

Suggest?

[Asri Teroka]

Or theorize?

[Asri Teroka]

Ausuka this one agrees team forming can be very bad yet as a topic of discussion it forces people to broaden their answers, if they answer of course.

[Asri Teroka]

But cook and erynis can be scum? This one notes you skip that part of what you call a suggestion.

[Asri Teroka]

Fair enough doesn't give this one your take on cook and HighPrincessErynis

[Asri Teroka]

Yeah.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Cook

This one did almost vote HighPrincessErynis but this is fine.

[Asri Teroka]

Why do you say this when this one votes? Is the timing a coincidence?

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Cook

This one did almost vote HighPrincessErynis but this is fine.

why vote?

This one knows mis-elims don't happen here day ones, is the philosophy.

Who should this one be voting? Fire and Ausuka are town here.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: ItalianoVD

If you're just a vanilla then say so.

[Asri Teroka]

Asri Teroka

, i forgot to read you in that other post. i don't really trust you. give me a reason to trust you.

This one is town but don't really know if you should trust them. If you're also town just help this one push scum and not town basically.

[Asri Teroka]

Just to be clear this one isn't only voting because of invisibility's uncontested town push and the mason claim.

UNVOTE: Asri

I wanted to get some pressure there to see the response and to be honest it feels townie.

There was no pressure. The most pressure was from a pleasant chat with fireisredsir.

I have a hard time understanding the wording but I get the gist of what they're trying to say

Invisibility understood it well enough. This one simply said your townreads felt fake, you felt like you were pushing for mis-eliminations and that nothing you said in that one 'associative' post made any sense.

Meaning it didn't feel like a town case, bluntly.

This one likes voting ItalianoVD for now independently.

A team like Ausuka/ItalianoVD/Iamveryhappy would be clumsy but there are patterns.This one is not sure where to slot Erynis in. A lot of silent voices so overall this one has said their say.

[Asri Teroka]

*clumsy

[Asri Teroka]

Enough?

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: ItalianoVD

If you're just a vanilla then say so.

Don’t like this rolefish.

This one couldn't care less.

[Asri Teroka]

idk if there was really a world where anyone could take that mason claim seriously considering it came out of nowhere and involved Invis ("Stop playing Invis" even though she currently was not being pushed nor was pushing italiano or anything similar.

I think at least happy, Invis, and Asri took it seriously.

Why aren't you mentioning Ausuka. This one never said how serious they think the claim is btw.

[Asri Teroka]

Yeah now that this one is ISOing him and remembers the Italiano "i want town vibes" and... ahem... candybargate incidents, this one is not feeling super good about Italiano. He seems to just openly want to be townread without giving a reason and to buddy up with Invis in particular? For some reason?

Is iamveryhappyscum?

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: iamveryhappy

[Asri Teroka]

Why aren't you mentioning Ausuka. This one never said how serious they think the claim is btw.

Ausuka obviously didn't believe the claim was real.

?

What planet you on where you say Asri believed it but Ausuka didn't?

[Asri Teroka]

iamveryhappy is either shitposting scum or is town pr

Still, don't you feel that erynis and happy are aligned?

[Asri Teroka]

iamveryhappy is either shitposting scum or is town pr

Can't I be neither? Rude
I'm currently a counterwagon against ItalianoVD, and looking at the votecounts tmr we might know who else we can vote.
Simple.

You are not mentioning the Erynis wagon as an alternative.

[Asri Teroka]

I don't believe this cclaim yet as buddying scum can claim masons and go haha I'm cowonftown
but no
I'm the only cowonftpwn

Italiano and Invisibility are absolutely real masons. Invisibility softed this earlier by repeatedly insisting Italiano is scum. I will not hear any slander of this claim

this is pretty clearly understanding the claim isn't real

VOTE: ItalianoVD

If you're just a vanilla then say so.

this feels like, not believing the claim exactly, but treating it as if it was meant to be taken seriously

No? This one admits the Aus sarcasm is clear in hindsight but the main point is why something smart is even talking about it. It's a nowhere statement. Its pretty obvious this one knew the claim was fake with that vote.

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And that's beside the point. Ausuka and Italiano have a high chance to be town here. Erynis and iamveryhappy not so much.

Cook is a hard read. So this one likes to think at least one scum is in the lurkers.

[Asri Teroka]

Black, to repeat, this one couldn't care less.

[Asri Teroka]

Black, is Erynis scum or town? Is iamveryhappy scum or town?

[Asri Teroka]

iamveryhappy is either shitposting scum or is town pr

Can't I be neither? Rude
I'm currently a counterwagon against ItalianoVD, and looking at the votecounts tmr we might know who else we can vote.
Simple.

You are not mentioning the Erynis wagon as an alternative.

wat wagon
check vc

Is Erynis scum?

[Asri Teroka]

i am curious what makes you now say that italiano has a high chance to be town, though

Reading.

Erynis and happy

Looking for other scum in Black, other lurkers. Cook read on hold.

[Asri Teroka]

@asri, "took seriously" is different than "believed to be real"

This one defs took it more seriously than Ausuka skimmed that post and missed the sarcasm!

And maybe thought it was possible, so while something smart is sort of right it's just an interesting observation. Maybe from town, but it did seem out of synch maybe also, why this one picked on it.

[Asri Teroka]

I'm not a lurker. I was v/la for the entire weekend...

This one doesn't care about definitions they mean low content posters and you probably know this.

No reads on Erynis or happy.

[Asri Teroka]

Oh

[Asri Teroka]

Ok Black you might still be good. T3 next then.

[Asri Teroka]

v/la =/= lurk kek

I feel like Asri Tekora does not embrace my role as cowonftown and and says I am scummy wummy baka
I don't like some posts from them (like the ItalianoVD town thing). We'll all see.

So what you're telling this one is that Black is town? Thank you, you are helpful.

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Really don't know what Asri's gameplan is in general, or why they're copying my speech pattern, actually.

This one is here to find scum?

[Asri Teroka]

iamveryhappy is either shitposting scum or is town pr

Still, don't you feel that erynis and happy are aligned?

says who?

This one. Several times.

[Asri Teroka]

I currently townread HPE because it's been a while now since the game started and I think it has been in like, second gear at best the entire time. It did a pretty impressive sweep in the team mafia Mario game against some really good players and it looked nothing like this. I think its play feeling, uh, kind of disorganised? might be a towntell for it because, like, its play doesn't feel structured around getting townread and it's not a skill issue

Erynis feels scum informed and the way they act is reactive. The Italiano push doesn't read as geniune.

[Asri Teroka]

It's pooooooossible that I'm slightly tunneled at this point but I really don't like 449

This one didn't like the tone either

[Asri Teroka]

is Erinys talking about Asri referring to themself as "this one"?

Yes.

[Asri Teroka]

Definitely a scumlean. There's a chance it's something town does but it's like... why the fuck would they do that?? Why would SCUM do that?? It honestly makes no sense in general.

I can see a world where Italiano is town and does something weird and impulsive and honestly I think it’s less likely for scum!him to do that. It doesn’t look to me like a scum play to deliberately try to get attention for it and then have people say “well, scum would never want to draw attention to themself.” If that makes sense.

Keep making good posts.

[Asri Teroka]

Perhaps.

[Asri Teroka]

v/la =/= lurk kek

I feel like Asri Tekora does not embrace my role as cowonftown and and says I am scummy wummy baka
I don't like some posts from them (like the ItalianoVD town thing). We'll all see.

So what you're telling this one is that Black is town? Thank you, you are helpful.

Thank you! I was just telling you about how V/LA did not mean lurk. Now, I assumed you didn't know so I told you. Black doesn't have really enough content for me rn to sort. But

1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Na5 6. Bb5+ c6 7. dxc6 bxc6 White wins a piece here

you seem to interpret this post the wrong way.

1. a4

Black has a lot of content.

[Asri Teroka]

Unimpressed.

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I'm liking Ausuka's posts a little less than I was this weekend. I'm not sure what it is...I think it's the tone? For whatever reason I can't help but read her posts like they're coming from a guilty conscience

It's not like she's doing anything all that scummy. I think she defends herself a lot and seems concerned with people scum reading her, but I can't really scumread that because I do that a lot as town

I think scum are likely to approach this game in the way Ausuka has. Decent activity, obvious signs of solving, etc

I'm ok leaving this slot around for later because I think I still townread her, but I'm wary here

Good headspace. The Ausuka defense of Erynis felt weird. Saying if Erynis is scum no one would be pushing it. As happy pointed out that wagon is dead.

[Asri Teroka]

Weird post

how so?

there's this weirdness I can't explain in it. like why would you comment on other's thoughts on claim w/o having a thought on claim yourself

oh that's easy. I don't know what to think about the claim right now lol and I'm currently voting Italiano off of previous stuff. Don't worry. The thoughts are slow roasting

The happy vote and Erynis sus on Italiano seem ok to you?

Italanio's posts don't seem as bad in hindsight. However, he hasn't said much since. This one is curious, and will wait.

[Asri Teroka]

pagetop

The last two posts prior to this one you made went nowhere. Why shouldn't this one be scumreading you right now?

[Asri Teroka]

iamveryhappy is either shitposting scum or is town pr

Can't I be neither? Rude
I'm currently a counterwagon against ItalianoVD, and looking at the votecounts tmr we might know who else we can vote.
Simple.

You are not mentioning the Erynis wagon as an alternative.

wat wagon
check vc

Don't waste this one's time in the future.

[Asri Teroka]

I think the assertion I have been focused on self defense this game is pretty difficult to understand, especially since I like haven't really been pushed at all?

Fair, but one can still pre-empetively defend oneself through various tactics, some subtle. This one didm't re-read for context, merely making a general observation

[Asri Teroka]

Erynis never voted?

[Asri Teroka]

Ok sure whatever.

[Asri Teroka]

I think I've done plenty of that. If anything, I'd be interested to hear *your* reads on the people who are present

alright

ItalianoVD

and

iamveryhappy

and have something going on. on that note, invisibility is

not

partnered with italiano, because they had too much interaction in the first few pages, though it wasn't on-topic but that just is too genuine. actually, no,

Invisibility

is a townread for me.

Ausuka

is my unpopular pick for scum. You speak too much in hypotheticals and refuse to commit, as if you getting exe'd will result in your team losing.

Cook

is obviously a valuable Town player and shouldn't be exe'd or NK'd

HighPrincessErinys

confuses me. i can't get a read on it.

Black

, imo, is also a strong townread. the content doesn't seem shallow to me.

Hu Tao

is on the scummy side of low-posting. if i were someone to make archetypes out of players, Hu is very similar to a certain other class of players. they're scummy and low content, mostly just shallow reactionary IIOA but it's very NAI as an archetype. i think Hu won't be eliminated but if we have no leads they're getting the boot.

T3

and

S_S

are too inactive for me to read.

fireisredsir

and

KatyKimFanClub

... nothing's springing to mind at the moment. i want to post thoughts but they aren't coming to me yet.

People I Want To See Post More

Black

, for more of your analysis

HPE

, so i can read you better

Hu Tao

so i can sort you

T3 and S_S

cause you both haven't said much

Asri Teroka

, i forgot to read you in that other post. i don't really trust you. give me a reason to trust you.

People I Want To Townread

Ausuka

. i wish i could trust you and hope we're the same team so that better scumhunting is a thing, but i can't get visions of you flipping red out of my head

Invisibility

feels like a green, at least not a scumpartner with my other scumreads.

Cook you don't say anything really outside of italiano about happy here and only that Erynis should post more for coherence.

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Saying if Erynis is scum no one would be pushing it. As happy pointed out that wagon is dead.

I wouldn't really say we've had wagons in this game since the whole Cook situation

I think it's fair to say that most people don't like HPE's posts, and I probably wouldn't be townreading it if not for the meta thing because there isn't a whole lot there. The main point of my read is how different it feels to the very recent scumgame HPE played in a way that isn't very likely to benefit it - HPE scum would make sense if HPE wasn't very good at scum, but that's not true, so either it's just having a really bad game for an extended period of time, it 9000iq'd that someone would bring this up or it's town

Fair explanation. It is a meta thing so this one will push it no further. This one's divergent philosophy is that if someone is scummy you push them regardless of experience level or past experiences. Every game is situational.

[Asri Teroka]

Hmm I think that is like an extremely uncharitable read of those posts but I'm not sure if asking more about it is going to be useful

Uncharitable? It's just a vibe I'm getting based on not trusting you. I feel like I'm being pretty reasonable here by considering it might just be a me thing

Unless I missed it I'd still like an answer to my previous question about why you liked the cook wagon but also thought there was scum on it

I like early wagons, I think they can give us decent info. Thinking there's scum on the Cook wagon boils down to statistics mixed with how I think scum would like to approach an early game wagon

This one also feels you were being reasonable for the record.

[Asri Teroka]

Why are people scumreading HPE? I'm not seeing it

This one is not feeling a town interest from them or seeing a town drive.

[Asri Teroka]

"Charismatic personalities? Scum have those as well"

Are you trying to hint that you think there's scum on the Cook wagon? Because I agree. Who do you think it might be?

Ausuka why do you think Black asked me this question?

[Asri Teroka]

This one is going to put Ausuka and fireisredsir as hard towns.

[Asri Teroka]

Early on I hadn’t really fully sunken my teeth into the game yet, so Asri was in fact correct when they said I was just throwing out townreads. I did that based off of what I thought could be the most likely at the time with the RVS stage and Cook.

Invis actually did/does feel like town to me and the mason claim was just an over exaggerated way of me saying that I really townread them.

Early on when everyone was fluffposting Invis interacted with me in a way that I thought was loose and fun which I don’t think scum would/could be able to maintain.

In contrast iamveryhappy ironically didn’t seem very happy. Even my first interaction with him felt kinda awkward. The focus on what was considered RVS fluff posting between me and Invis is probably nai, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was done with a scum mindset.

Even Invis voting me after the claim makes me really think they are town because it’s most likely what I would’ve done if that was done to me.

Why did I fake claim in the first place I’ve seen people ask. Honestly there was nothing going on in my head at the time lol it was literally something I just did. If anyone tries to ask me to get deeper with it, sorry but you won’t get anything there.

420 makes me think happy and Cook could be partners or happy is town

I think for now I’m voting VOTE: Cook.

I could also vote for iamveryhappy and probably Princess, but I just don’t think scum would be that clumsy around a wagon the way Princess was. I could be wrong about that though.

I probably missed some things, so if y’all wanna tag me in posts you want me to answer or comment on, I can answer them later.

I still don't like this defense
Parked for now.
I'm forced to be happy, as I told you in our first interaction
help me

You offer no meaningful input on Erynis or cook? The invis townread when invis is sussing you. You call this a defense is also a case.

All your interactions are surface level, reactionary and narrative rather than context orientated.

[Asri Teroka]

I don't think IVD's strong townread of Invisibility makes a lot of sense tbh. I'm more inclined to believe this is an informed read rather than one developed naturally. And the mason thing just feels like a buddying attempt when I look through the lens of scum!IVD

Still planning on iso'ing this today to get a better idea of where I stand

At the time this one agreed with you, now they don't, and not invis either this one thinks?

It is interesting that this view is held in a post where VD susses cook and erynis. Like happy you forebear talking about it.

[Asri Teroka]

Alright, here's my IVD ISO

Mambo Italianoooooo

19 - "I am very happy too" ...why? Because you rolled scum? This is NAI but if IVD is scum then this would be funny
#20-#24 are meaningless greetings to other players
27 - IVD asking happy what he wants to talk about. Nothing here
35 - you forgot to include "rolled scum" here btw
More fluffy posts here
88 - this feels like a joke vote on T3, so not much here
89 - I like IVD calling Invis out here because her TR did feel weird and was part of the reason I voted her early. I'm curious to see where this goes because I know that IVD strongly townreads Invis, so this comment must not have made the same scummy impression it did for me
94 - not a big fan of "hope we are both town this game" but it's NAI
97 - asking Ausuka if her vote was serious. Kinda seems like busy work
98 - Invis follows up to #89 by just saying "yes", and IVD just says "I want town vibes." I'm not sure why IVD didn't question Invis' townread further here? I don't like this
102 - tells Ausuka it's too early to ask for elaboration so he wants to let it marinate. Idk what this means? I don't think it's ever too early to ask. You may not get an answer but that's beside the point
107 - IVD speaking for Invis here and giving a reason for her vote
124 - admitting Fire got townread by Invis for almost nothing. I think town!IVD would question this townread more
Invisibility defends IVD in 122 and IVD agrees with her in 128. I'm not liking 128 really. It reads as "yeah, I wouldn't do this as scum"
133 - IVD seems to want to take on happy here
150 - "obviously I wouldn't want it to get pushed through if you're town" ...this feels yucky. Why even say this? Other than that I do agree with this post fundamentally
I also like 213 and 214 regarding the Cook wagon
215 - IVD quotes four people (Invis, Cook, Asri, and HPE) and says that one of them is scum. This feels weird because it's a literal echo of what I said 5 minutes before in 211. This isn't really an original thought
217 - he votes Asri here and says that Invis and HPE are town because of their town. He says "especially Invis". This just feels so pockety considering the upcoming mason thingy. I have an issue with this read because I don't think Invis' tone is townie at all. Obviously we could just be having a difference of opinion here but the read still just feels forced
271 - he votes Asri again here which is weird, but maybe he just forgot he was already voting them? I think I like IVD's thought process here but it's definitely a perspective scum could have
277 - this feels like a busywork question to Cook
362 - unvoting Asri here feels weird. To me it reads as if IVD is backing off of a wagon that didn't gain any traction. But what I don't like is he doesn't seem interested in pursuing his thought process from #215 above. If he thinks there's scum in that 4, why would he then not turn to pressure Cook here?
365 - this is the mason buddy comment. I don't like it
394 - I think I agree with the premise of this post but again, I don't think trusting Invis here out of everyone makes a lot of sense from a town perspective
396 - I actually agree with this
531 - IVD apologizes for not being here in 9 hours? This seems like he's worried about his optics, which isn't necessarily scummy, but it's an observation I've made
567 - I'm not liking this explanation as to why IVD fake masonclaimed. "An overexaggerated way of saying I really townread them." Yeah, I'm not really buying this. I actually like the Cook vote here though


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tl;dr - I was kinda hoping to get a better idea of where I stand with this slot. I feel it in my gut that I'm scumreading him though because I found myself thinking a lot of this ISO comes from a malicious perspective as I was reading through it

I think I'm ok pressuring here right now

VOTE: ItalianoVD

This one only skimmed but this might be a camouflaged distraction vote from scum! Black

[Asri Teroka]

I think one of Invisibility/IVD might be scum but definitely not both

Also not liking this.

[Asri Teroka]

I think invisibility is probably just town. I'm less sure about italiano - I think the reasons most people are scumreading him, like the mason claim or whatever, don't make much sense, but like he isn't super towny either

Seems good but a bit wishy washy on Italiano. This one expecting a townread here from Ausuka, this is not it

[Asri Teroka]

I'm trying to ask about your read on Italiano

Like, do you think he expects invisibility to claim masons with him? After invisibility calls him scum so strongly

Is there more to the mason claim being scummy?

respectively:
- ask about it then, or point to a place when you asked about it please
- no, no i don't
-

why in the goddamn would town fakeclaim.

if there is no logical reason for it, then there you go. that's why i scumread italiano

Town fake claim all the time under varying circumstances and you probably know this.

[Asri Teroka]

this one thinks it'd be willing to ball on italiano??

Because of the sus?

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Black

Excellent vote.

VOTE: Black

that's an unusual vote! mind explaining it?

Very very weird response to an excellent vote.

VOTE: Black

Go on

Careful, attempts to draw T3 out.

Black and Cook probs scum together.

[Asri Teroka]

wat is italiano doing
if that slot is scum I'm basically spewed town

No. Italiano has points against cook and erynis. You swinging this narrative either means you are vanilla town or low effort scum.

[Asri Teroka]

I think one of Invisibility/IVD might be scum but definitely not both

Also not liking this.

Why? What's wrong with what they said?

Why ask?

[Asri Teroka]

This one feels it's time to shake things up.

VOTE: cook

[Asri Teroka]

This one impressed by your response time.

Any pool with a rock thrown in is stirred.

[Asri Teroka]

Actually this one might have misread the question?? It's almost 3am. Not an OMGUS either way. Bro's just plain lookin' weird.

This one was referencing his sus on it. If it wants to say why the cook sus from him is looking weird?

[Asri Teroka]

Actually this one might have misread the question?? It's almost 3am. Not an OMGUS either way. Bro's just plain lookin' weird.

This one was referencing his sus on it. If it wants to say why the cook sus from him is looking weird?

This one has also been sussing it to be clear and has VD as town. Is this one weird?

[Asri Teroka]

His cook push feels natural.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Black

[Asri Teroka]

Something doesn't feel right

It's you.

[Asri Teroka]

These are hedge reads

{Fire, Asri, HPE, happy} these are my strongest townreads. I kinda want to townread Katy too

Fire: Obvious town. Ausuka is dubious, Black needs them.
Asri: This one didn't expect this. Black is dodging things with this townread. Asri probably here to either lower suspicion or have an excuse to dodge discussions.
HPE: Something might be up here
Happy: Maybe also here but far less likely than Erynis by this one's current instincts.
Katy: Probably town, here to gain vote support.

{Something_Smart, Hu Tao, T3} these players are in my blind spot and I want more from them

SS: Total null.
Hu Tao: Has been weird around the few topics approached perhaps. Can be aligned with Black.
T3: First vote on Black. Black did try to draw out more info but T3 is yet to talk. Probably here in hopes the Black vote changes, keeping T3 in the middle with other low posts slots makes it so that Black can either sus or sheep depending on future T3 actions.

{Cook, Italiano} these players are pretty null to me. I moved Italiano up a little because I kinda like his responses and reaction to pressure

Cook: High chance of being a partner
Italiano: Not much said here. Italiano is a contender to the cook wagon so good to keep them as an option but not be obvious about it. Cook just a null read here but Italiano 'a bit up' suggesting there's Cook and Black distancing going on.

{Ausuka, Invisibility} these players are the scummiest to me and I can even see this being the solve. It's probably not that easy though

Nope. Invisibility is pretty much town and Ausuka also. As before, not liking this.

Scum push on Aus and Invis, to undermine them, because they're playing good.

Scum list.

This one struggles to see it any other way.

[Asri Teroka]

the fact that italianovd is getting away w/ smth this outrageous is really annoying

Expand.

[Asri Teroka]

These are hedge reads

{Fire, Asri, HPE, happy} these are my strongest townreads. I kinda want to townread Katy too

Fire: Obvious town. Ausuka is dubious, Black needs them.
Asri: This one didn't expect this. Black is dodging things with this townread. Asri probably here to either lower suspicion or have an excuse to dodge discussions.
HPE: Something might be up here
Happy: Maybe also here but far less likely than Erynis by this one's current instincts.
Katy: Probably town, here to gain vote support.

{Something_Smart, Hu Tao, T3} these players are in my blind spot and I want more from them

SS: Total null.
Hu Tao: Has been weird around the few topics approached perhaps. Can be aligned with Black.
T3: First vote on Black. Black did try to draw out more info but T3 is yet to talk. Probably here in hopes the Black vote changes, keeping T3 in the middle with other low posts slots makes it so that Black can either sus or sheep depending on future T3 actions.

{Cook, Italiano} these players are pretty null to me. I moved Italiano up a little because I kinda like his responses and reaction to pressure

Cook: High chance of being a partner
Italiano: Not much said here. Italiano is a contender to the cook wagon so good to keep them as an option but not be obvious about it. Cook just a null read here but Italiano 'a bit up' suggesting there's Cook and Black distancing going on.

{Ausuka, Invisibility} these players are the scummiest to me and I can even see this being the solve. It's probably not that easy though

Nope. Invisibility is pretty much town and Ausuka also. As before, not liking this.

Scum push on Aus and Invis, to undermine them, because they're playing good.

Scum list.

This one struggles to see it any other way.

Lmao. You're definitely seeing what to want to see...

Why would you not vote for me here if you are this convinced I'm scum?

Interesting response.

And disappointing.

[Asri Teroka]

This one just keeps tallying the cook and Erynis dodges then. There is no rush.

[Asri Teroka]

Don't avoid my question

The question being why this one isn't voting you?

[Asri Teroka]

This one just keeps tallying the cook and Erynis dodges then. There is no rush.

???

There's a lot of them.

[Asri Teroka]

Don't avoid my question

The question being why this one isn't voting you?

Yes. Literally the only question I've asked you recently lol. Wtf?

This one can answer that pretty easily. They are.

[Asri Teroka]

This one just keeps tallying the cook and Erynis dodges then. There is no rush.

???

There's a lot of them.

I don't even know what you're talking about. Stop being cryptic and use your words

This one did make a big post read that.

[Asri Teroka]

I think Ausuka is town

Why?

Because you're pushing her.

[Asri Teroka]

asri: I have zero idea why this is on black, like there are far better vote candidates here

Like?

[Asri Teroka]

I think Ausuka is town

Why?

Because you're pushing her.

Can you not answer for people? Thanks

This one does as they please. If Ausuka is town and you are scum, moreso.

[Asri Teroka]

This one just keeps tallying the cook and Erynis dodges then. There is no rush.

???

There's a lot of them.

I don't even know what you're talking about. Stop being cryptic and use your words

This one did make a big post read that.

You didn't mention anything about "erynis and cook dodges" anywhere in that post

If you had a town mentality this one would have humored you. The responses on this page indicate such is not the case.

And if you had a town mentality, you would have understood well enough what this one was saying and defended appropriately. As scum you most probably also do but chose to go for the public support route and looking good by talking rather than the rational dissection town would have jumped into here.

Your reads are scum hedge reads.
That's all this one has to say, and did.

[Asri Teroka]

I think Ausuka is town

Why?

Because you're pushing her.

Can you not answer for people? Thanks

This one does as they please. If Ausuka is town and you are scum, moreso.

Oh so you just want to be annoying? Got it...

This one won't be playing your deflection game your scum team is already cracked open and just needs a good heron's beak wedged in there to catch the errant spiders.

[Asri Teroka]

And if you had a town mentality, you would have understood well enough what this one was saying and defended appropriately

You don't make any sense. My mentality has nothing to do with not understanding you

Sense?

Black is scum. Asri makes big post. Black can't stop dodging, maxed out reflex.

That' all sense this one feels they need to make to you. It's town they're concerned of convincing here after all, no sense in convincing scum they are scum.

[Asri Teroka]

Asri I hope you feel really dumb after my flip

Not at all. You are not town here.

[Asri Teroka]

black feels more like town to me here, asri

i def wouldn't recommend worldbuilding off her flip before it even happens that rarely works out in general

This one couldn't care less.

[Asri Teroka]

Black is scum. Asri makes big post. Black can't stop dodging, maxed out reflex.

Dude I'm not dodging anything and I've asked you multiple times to explain what you mean and you just want to play cryptic word games. It's really annoying

No this one knows what they mean and you know it. we both also know the reason you are drawing this out since the long post is to manipulate emphatics such as fireisredsir.

Cook, Erynis, Black scum mot likely for now.

This one cares about little else.

[Asri Teroka]

why did you say this before I had expressed suspicion of Black?

Chose to.

[Asri Teroka]

I'm actually gonna dip for a bit

I think Invis feels better after our exchange. Asri is annoying af but he's probably town. And Ausuka is still probably scum

Black, you are scum with Cook. You fear committing. This one laid out exactly why your reads are scum reads. Everything from you since then has been gravity fueled panic, obfuscation and hoping to make Asri look bad by discussing major points but moving posts past the point where the utter falsity of your reads is even an issue.

Before today, you were positioning and in a good place. Today you're trying to save your team. You have fireiredsir on your side.

That's about it.

[Asri Teroka]

*discussing minor points

[Asri Teroka]

I'm not dodging anything

The perspective you have on Cake and the way you tailor your posts, timing, content, and especially the invisibility and ausuka sus:

This one will show all in due time.

[Asri Teroka]

uh oh

[Asri Teroka]

#745: Asri disputes each and every one of Black's reads.

Black's response in series:

Why would you not vote for me here if you are this convinced I'm scum?

Unaware of Asri vote, or appearing to be.

Don't avoid my question

No input on their false reads.

Yes. Literally the only question I've asked you recently lol. Wtf?

No input on their false reads. Only focuses on Asri not voting when Asri is voting. Are aware of the building wagon them, but seemingly not paying attention to who's on it.

I don't even know what you're talking about. Stop being cryptic and use your words

No input on their false reads. #745 had a lot of words that are decidedly uncryptic.

You didn't mention anything about "erynis and cook dodges" anywhere in that post

No input on their false reads.

Can you not answer for people? Thanks

Salty scum.

Oh so you just want to be annoying? Got it...

Salty scum.

You don't make any sense. My mentality has nothing to do with not understanding you

No input on their false reads.

Asri I hope you feel really dumb after my flip

No input on their false reads.

Dude I'm not dodging anything and I've asked you multiple times to explain what you mean and you just want to play cryptic word games. It's really annoying

No input on their false reads.

Omfg

Fuck this. I'm not engaging with you anymore

I'm actually gonna dip for a bit

I think Invis feels better after our exchange. Asri is annoying af but he's probably town. And Ausuka is still probably scum

Fears a looming Invisibility vote. Knows scumreading Asri is the wrong play here.

This one needs to re-read past Black posts and re-evaluate fireisredsir.

That's it, have fun!

[Asri Teroka]

something's wrong, I can feel it

uh oh

are you all thinking what i'm thinking

Definitely.

[Asri Teroka]

This while time you just wanted me to comment on my own reads? My reads are genuine and true. I don't feel the need to prove that to you though, and frankly I don't think there's anything I can say about them that would make you believe they are my real reads

No. This one has said a lot. Your tactics will fail. You had your chance to address the posts like town would. Adress the pointers that you have a scum POE, that you are pushing town and that at least one buddy is in your townpile. That you are waiting to see how much of a threat T3 is before committing.

That chance is gone.

This one will interact with you no more, the cases shall speak for themselves.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: italiano

This one admits you were right, it was too early to have you as hard town.

[Asri Teroka]

I've never seen someone be so confidently wrong lol. And I've seen a lot of it in my time here

This one will simply state this: Good luck.

[Asri Teroka]

I've never seen someone be so confidently wrong lol. And I've seen a lot of it in my time here

This one will simply state this: Good luck.

Same to you! I'm not getting limmed today, but you can try your hardest and maybe you'll get close!

This one doesn't care what you say at this point you had a chance to be town, you will be limmed. If not you, Cook.

But it's only a matter of time and perseverance until everything feels and sees how fake you are. It's pretty obviou but you're hoping being nice can save you. Not so.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: italiano

This one admits you were right, it was too early to have you as hard town.

im pretty sure scum in this position are gonna be the ones hard encouraging you and baiting you to continue your tunnel

Right now you're either scum or trying to help them. Either way this one see no value in you, Black's reads are scum reads and neither you nor Black will change this narrative by attacking the player and not the case.

Black is obviously backed into a corner.

This one will see what your agenda is by studying earlier posts. Your vote on Italiano for one would be a clumsy move from you as scum but under certain specific circumstances warranted. Furthermore the above narrative reeks like you being informed about someone's alignment at least.

[Asri Teroka]

"you had a chance to be town"

Lmao

Your continued flippancy doesn't explain away the obvious scum agenda in your reads. At this point it's clear you really believe you will not be the lim today, and this one is greatly amused by that.

T3, Ausuka, Invisibility, ItalianoVD are the towncore. Scum doesn't win this

Enough though. Have a peaceful time at least after Asri is gone.

[Asri Teroka]

black is one of my stronger townreads rn (along with you!) and i think it is extremely bad news for the game if one of my strongest townreads is tunneled on another one

i also don't think your reasons for finding black scum are very good at all

Fair but forgive this one's dubiosity in a game of mystery. There are definite reasons for hunting Black as scum. But this one will give it a day or so and see before further pushing this, merely because on the chance that you are town this post deserves reciprocity.

[Asri Teroka]

Your continued flippancy doesn't explain away the obvious scum agenda in your reads

You applied the most basic scum mindset to my reads list and now you're calling it "obvious". You're delusional

No. You are salty scum who doesn't know how to approach this situation anymore. You're hoping for the casual pass, hoping people are blind.

And you in no way say where and how this ' basic scum mindset' is not applicable to you.

ALL you do is curse, shade and go for the weakest ad-hominiems out there.

Asri sees no further value in your defence. This is all that needs to be said.

These are hedge reads

{Fire, Asri, HPE, happy} these are my strongest townreads. I kinda want to townread Katy too

Fire: Obvious town. Ausuka is dubious, Black needs them.
Asri: This one didn't expect this. Black is dodging things with this townread. Asri probably here to either lower suspicion or have an excuse to dodge discussions.
HPE: Something might be up here
Happy: Maybe also here but far less likely than Erynis by this one's current instincts.
Katy: Probably town, here to gain vote support.

{Something_Smart, Hu Tao, T3} these players are in my blind spot and I want more from them

SS: Total null.
Hu Tao: Has been weird around the few topics approached perhaps. Can be aligned with Black.
T3: First vote on Black. Black did try to draw out more info but T3 is yet to talk. Probably here in hopes the Black vote changes, keeping T3 in the middle with other low posts slots makes it so that Black can either sus or sheep depending on future T3 actions.

{Cook, Italiano} these players are pretty null to me. I moved Italiano up a little because I kinda like his responses and reaction to pressure

Cook: High chance of being a partner
Italiano: Not much said here. Italiano is a contender to the cook wagon so good to keep them as an option but not be obvious about it. Cook just a null read here but Italiano 'a bit up' suggesting there's Cook and Black distancing going on.

{Ausuka, Invisibility} these players are the scummiest to me and I can even see this being the solve. It's probably not that easy though

Nope. Invisibility is pretty much town and Ausuka also. As before, not liking this.

Scum push on Aus and Invis, to undermine them, because they're playing good.

Scum list.

This one struggles to see it any other way.

[Asri Teroka]

ALL you do is curse, shade and go for the weakest ad-hominiems out there.

Nice misrep!

Not at all. You attacked the person not the content. You are going all in not to talk about T3, Cook and Erynis. In depth. Like town would. The Asri read is fake, you were subtly feeling if this one can mis-elimmed early on before the gamestate made this a sub-par move. And still you evade.

This one can give you time but nothing you have done points to town.

[Asri Teroka]

if italiano dies asri is kinda sus no matter what for defending them

Informed statement.

you die and flip scum, nothing happens

Discounts bus.

you die and flip town, asri looks really bad

Informed statement?

75% asri is gonna look really bad and unless asri finds a defense for it I'm p sure it's goodbye

Horrible. This one can't decide whether you're trying to slip that Black is town and Italiano scum or slipping that Black is town and Italiano scum or slipping that both are town. This one think you are a good vote today, if you're a vanilla and you're dead you might make more sense than whatever this is.


VOTE: cook

[Asri Teroka]

Juicy.

Ignored the spoiler this one has no time for that fluff.

but it definitely thinks there's some extremely uncharitable and kinda mean-spirited interpretation of uh, literally everything they're saying here from Asri.

Ok. In the original big post. That Black did not fully adress. Things like: Cook and Erynis likely scum. Those unchariatbel things? This one has been saying them for days while you and Cook happily did your things. So does this mean Black is town?

This casing doesn't convince me of scum!Black it just makes me feel bad for them putting up with it. Most importantly it just doesn't read as a towny casing or really... TRYING to case at all, it's moreso an attempt to force an interpretation of "these are FAKE scum reads! these are FAKE scum interactions!" to me.

That entire post, if it read it, well, circled on the premis of cake scum, and the T3 vote. So Black is town.

Posts like 819 and 825 reinforce this idea because they're either needlessly hostile or scum trying to bury someone.

Yes, town is never hostile. Scum always go on full-on attack on town on Day ones. I agree with this premise wholly. I am fully rancid.

Considering this one hasn't been voting for a while it's going to officially say Fuck It We Ball because this just gives me the heebie-jeebies.

VOTE: Asri Teroka

Yes, let us ball. Asri is too dangerous too keep around. But it's been so hard pushing them! Asri is pushing town Black? Get them!

Erynis, if the team is just you, Cook and iamveryhappy it's time to give up.

[Asri Teroka]

if italiano dies asri is kinda sus no matter what for defending them

Informed statement.

you die and flip scum, nothing happens

Discounts bus.

you die and flip town, asri looks really bad

Informed statement?

75% asri is gonna look really bad and unless asri finds a defense for it I'm p sure it's goodbye

Horrible. This one can't decide whether you're trying to slip that Black is town and Italiano scum or slipping that Black is town and Italiano scum or slipping that both are town. This one think you are a good vote today, if you're a vanilla and you're dead you might make more sense than whatever this is.


VOTE: cook

Did you think you were responding to Cook there?

I'm not answering you I see little value in the way you have approached these past few pages.

[Asri Teroka]

if italiano dies asri is kinda sus no matter what for defending them

Informed statement.

you die and flip scum, nothing happens

Discounts bus.

you die and flip town, asri looks really bad

Informed statement?

75% asri is gonna look really bad and unless asri finds a defense for it I'm p sure it's goodbye

Horrible. This one can't decide whether you're trying to slip that Black is town and Italiano scum or slipping that Black is town and Italiano scum or slipping that both are town. This one think you are a good vote today, if you're a vanilla and you're dead you might make more sense than whatever this is.


VOTE: cook

1. oh shiver me timbers it was definitely informed ahhhh I'm so scared aaaaa
2. I haven't seen someone bus d1 in a 13p game. In fact I haven't seen someone bus d1 in a game with more than 9p.
3. claps
4. I'm not slipping
simply doing some calculations
in mafia you're either town, or you're scum
it's kinda easy to calculate how screwed one is if ___ gets voted

You are a boring specimen. Overall, nothing gained from interacting here.

[Asri Teroka]

Ignored the spoiler this one has no time for that fluff.

you are literally not even reading everything this one is saying oh my god

Yes. This one sees no reason to be friendly towards your weak push, rather they like being rancid.

[Asri Teroka]

I forget the ethical stuff about outing alts but once you see past the 'this one' thing I think anyone who has played with asri before knows who they are, they are a serial alter, and I think this behaviour is very much compatible with their town game

Sadly.

[Asri Teroka]

Ausuka locktown.

VOTE: HighPrincessErynis

It's you, Cook or iamveryhappy. If Black is scum this one doesn't have the energy to play river warden today. But it and veryhappy might have spewed Black town so, this one chooses the path of lesser effort anyways.

[Asri Teroka]

I'm not like going to locktown cook or black but I think i have good reasons to look elsewhere for the time being

I think KKFC coming back and like only really talking about happy again kinda solidifed my take on him, as I said I feel like it reminds me of my scum play when I was a newer player and I think the laser focus on happy is intentional at this point. I don't have a big massive case here, but I feel like he is pretty likely to be red anyway

Pedit: the link works for me

To be honest, I am trying my best to read a lot of the other threads but they're really hard to parse and come to conclusions on.

You're town.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: ItalianoVD

[Asri Teroka]

Weren't you getting up fire's ass for voting Italiano earlier???

No? Never? This one was fully aboard with fire's vote, there was nothing suspicious about it all.

[Asri Teroka]

This vote makes no sense. If you think Cook is scum why would you jump on her competing wagon?

Freedom!

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: italiano

This one admits you were right, it was too early to have you as hard town.

VOTE: italiano

This one admits you were right, it was too early to have you as hard town.

im pretty sure scum in this position are gonna be the ones hard encouraging you and baiting you to continue your tunnel

Right now you're either scum or trying to help them. Either way this one see no value in you, Black's reads are scum reads and neither you nor Black will change this narrative by attacking the player and not the case.

Black is obviously backed into a corner.

This one will see what your agenda is by studying earlier posts. Your vote on Italiano for one would be a clumsy move from you as scum but under certain specific circumstances warranted. Furthermore the above narrative reeks like you being informed about someone's alignment at least.

See?

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: ItalianoVD

What made you vote him over Cook or iamveryhappy?

El Nino Effect

[Asri Teroka]

This shit gives me FrogsterKing flashbacks honestly.

Spoiler:

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: ItalianoVD

What made you vote him over Cook or iamveryhappy?

El Nino Effect

Can you elaborate a little so I can understand your reasoning?

El Niño (/ɛl ˈniːnjoʊ/ el NEEN-yoh, Spanish: [el ˈniɲo]; lit. 'The Boy') is the warm phase of the El Niño–Southern Oscillation (ENSO) and is associated with a band of warm ocean water that develops in the central and east-central equatorial Pacific (approximately between the International Date Line and 120°W), including the area off the Pacific coast of South America.

[Asri Teroka]

My vote is permalocked onto Asri until they're out tbh because they are like, actively harmful to the cohesion of the game beyond just being a prick at this point.

You're boring then.

[Asri Teroka]

Exactly.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Cook

You really want to die more than Italiano lol. This one is nothing but obliging.

[Asri Teroka]

Also this one made a genuine scumread vote BEFORE Asri went and truly tipped the scales into making negative sense, so...

Not genuine.

You're scum with Cook.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Cook

You really want to die more than Italiano lol. This one is nothing but obliging.

werent you

already

voting me

No. This one thought Italiano and Ausuka were scums. They voted Italiano.

So.

[Asri Teroka]

Also this one made a genuine scumread vote BEFORE Asri went and truly tipped the scales into making negative sense, so...

Not genuine.

You're scum with Cook.

oh PLEASE as

if

you're flailing

This one is amused by your presumption, and knows it to be false.

[Asri Teroka]

Also this one made a genuine scumread vote BEFORE Asri went and truly tipped the scales into making negative sense, so...

Not genuine.

You're scum with Cook.

Blah blah blah make an actual case for once instead of repeatedly calling reads fake and scum and refusing to elaborate.

This one cares little for your preconceptions of how town must play.

You're just angry you're losing, but this one won't anger you further.

[Asri Teroka]

we don't actually have to get rid of asri fwiw i'm open to other eliminations

asri is NOT helping their case though

By saying you and Erynis are scum? For the past few days? And with you and Erynis never committing to discuss this? As if the mere absence of a wall case is enough to divert suspicion? This one can cite all the times this happened... And that final cook lurk prior to the prior cook vote is more than enough for this one to push you over cook. There has been a lot of avoidance tactics here for the scums to stay afloat and Asri knows it all.

In a world where Erynis is town you are still scum.

If you were town you'd be casing Italiano as of now.
You smell a chance to get Asri out though? And less exposure than Italiano wagon perhaps.

This is strange, and clearly you did miss that vote this one made. If you saw this one vote Italiano, would you have ever made the Asri vote? Didn't say much afterward, about Ausuka and Italiano.

The word 'policy' will now enter the avoidance lexicon.

[Asri Teroka]

This was weird because I'm not sure if Asri thought he was talking to Cook

You can't be serious.

[Asri Teroka]

How hard is it to tag all the lines from a single person to make a response to them? This one didn't answer you because it's a nowhere distraction

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Black

Doesn't matter anymore this town will lose by deepwolf.

[Asri Teroka]

@HPE - No. I think this kinda feels like theatre and a weird bus gone wrong. In this world I think Asri mixed up who he was voting for, tried to sneaky vote Cook's rival wagon but got instant flak for it, and decided to pursue the bus anyway

This one will use your ad-hominiem tricks: what you are saying is insane. If you think Asri would cite HAPPY's posts and think it is COOK Asri just gives up with you and doesn't care anymore. This is... absurd, weak shade, making ready to hop on either cook or Asri.

I don't really think this is the world we live in because I still TR Asri and I think I'm leaning town on Cook, but if I'm wrong about one of them then I could definitely see me being wrong about both after this whole thing

This reads better but if Cook is town it's just not.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Black

Doesn't matter anymore this town will lose by deepwolf.

Dang, did my Cook/Asri tinfoil scare you or something?

No, this one is done with bullshit. Any bullshit. If you're town, too bad. Can vote cook. Erynis maybe. Happy with glee. waiting for Italiano to not be sussy.

That's it. This one has no more interest in this day.

[Asri Teroka]

How hard is it to tag all the lines from a single person to make a response to them? This one didn't answer you because it's a nowhere distraction

I'm not trying to distract. I'm clearly confused by this. A simple answer would have prevented this

Yes but by reading the post it should be obvious to anyone. To miscontrue such a simple, almost out of game thing which you CAN CLEARLY SEE IS NOT SO is just... not a push this one will allow. Apologies, if you're town this is just so.

But this one can no longer stomach the premise that this one is somehow capable of mistaking happy's posting for cook's. It's the weirdest shade this one has ever seen cast.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Cook

[Asri Teroka]

No, this one is done with bullshit.

If by "bullshit" you mean me being confused at whatever it is you're doing, I think you should know that this may make perfect sense to you, but that doesn't necessary mean everyone else understands what's going on. It's ok to ask for clarification. And it's ok to say no like you did. But getting upset with me for not understanding after I asked you to explain just doesn't feel right

You brushed this one's posts regarding your actions off with a single sentence. There was no further value in engaging with you there, as it felt like scum engaging. Now? Let's say it's time to let Something Smart, Hu Tao and T3 come out and play.

That' all that can be done in this game state. Asri will wait and see.

[Asri Teroka]

But this one can no longer stomach the premise that this one is somehow capable of mistaking happy's posting for cook's. It's the weirdest shade this one has ever seen cast.

It's not shade! Stop reading everything I'm writing with malicious intent. You said in your post that you think happy is a good vote for today, and then you voted Cook

AM I THE ONLY ONE CONFUSED BY THIS?

This one has no idea what is going on. They understand how you could make that mistake but not why you draw public attention to it. For someone to copy line by line, and respond, to a single person's posts, must mean they are in fact talking to that person. Likewise, for them to type out 'vote Iamveryhappy' is also a significantly different task than 'vote cook.'

This one did not answer. Yet instead of reading and deciding for yourself, which should be easy, you continue to talk with Erynis as if this i some big issue regarding this one's slot. After you basically saying this one is mad for pushing you and nothing else.

I think if one of Cook/Asri flips scum we yeet the other

I think if one of Cook/Asri flips scum we yeet the other

...Flips town you mean??

This follows. Now why can't this one say you're shading them?


This is going nowhere, you are saying this one is town, fine. This one will think over things. There are reasons to push Erynis and Cook that have more promise than pushing you. And perhaps you would not be like this as scum.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: ItalianoVD

Just end the day already the lurkers ain't showing up.

[Asri Teroka]

This one said like 50 times in it's big post that Asri seems to be taking everything you say to an extreme of "actually scum said this" so like.

Black town?

Scum are probably Erynis, Cook, and iamveryhappy, old and trusted reads.

That's enough, all that's of any value.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Cook

[Asri Teroka]

Why can’t this just be Black making a legitimate case against Italiano? And what exactly is Black distracting from?

You are asking this while voting Black.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Black

This was your Black vote

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: T3

[Asri Teroka]

I voted Black because she was null and I thought I'd get interesting reactions from the vote.

VOTE: Asri

Asri finally found a real scum lol.

You voted Black because she was town and you hoped people would in fact vote there. And anticipating this very moment, in fact. Your Asri vote is hilarious btw, even funnier than your Black one.

This one is content with a T3 elim today.

[Asri Teroka]

Why can’t this just be Black making a legitimate case against Italiano? And what exactly is Black distracting from?

You are asking this while voting Black.

"Why can't I ask people why they are voting someone to gain an accurate picture of their reads"

No, this one has had enough of people talking circles around themselves.

You are scum T3, the town drive you'd be showing just ain't there.

Your ISO is basically Italiano defense, Cook shade. Little else. Nothing on Black. Nothing on Asri. Appears when convenient.

This entire thing about 'this was a test' is just caught scum doing what caught scum do.

Town

Invisibility
KatyKimFanClub

Very probably town

Black
fireisredsir

Sort pile

Ausuka
ItalianoVD
Cook
HighprincessErynis

Can yeet regardless of alignment:

iamveryhappy

Current lucky scum:

T3

[Asri Teroka]

Null: Something smart
Null to sus: Hu Tao

If Asri is starting to forget slots it mean they aren't in the game.

[Asri Teroka]

Yes Asri scum full on at mach 10 slams into Black town full force and draws three votes of instead of waiting for T3 and later Ausuka to do the pushing there. Asri who can easily votepark and watch this town chase each other in circles.

This is retroactive word salad to explain a scum vote on town.
T3 didn't push on a vote and now uses that fact to try and pocket Black by saying Asri was trying to pocket T3 by voting Black.T3 voteparked and all T3 comes away with is: Asri scum, tried to pocket me. This right after this one votes!

Such nonsense.

No town drive here, no curiosity, obvious omgus, opportunistic Asri pile-on. Chances are either cook or Italiano is a scum partner here for T3 to be making these type of moves.



Try harder scum.

[Asri Teroka]

What do you think of the reactions you got?

tbh I was mainly looking for a reaction from Black, I didn't really get much of a reaction from her. Cook's reaction felt weird tonally but that's it. Asri's reaction was interesting because she suddenly got way more assertive about her read on Black. Previously she had expressed a scumread on Black, but only when I voted Black did Asri vote Black. It seems like Asri was trying to pocket me and/or was reluctant to vote Black for fear of getting pushback.

It's pretty clear you're hoping you'll end up looking good here.

You won't.

[Asri Teroka]

These reads are faker than
-my love life
-what my name suggests how I feel
-I forgot what is in this one

Can yeet regardless of alignment:

iamveryhappy

[Asri Teroka]

Hmm actually you might just be town. If this one says they like you do their reads at least become half real?

[Asri Teroka]

This one can't stop giggling. You, cook and and T3 have decided to attack a hornet's with dove feathers and this one is mighty curious who's either going to back down first or get some actual poison.

Perhaps T3 has felt decent talking about this one's wagon, albeit a ghost. Still a kneejerk omgus v9te from T3 though and no seeming desire to be there for town.

Erynis, well it and Cook feel like they are seeking sanctuary from a raging storm perhaps. If scum, b9th ch9se the wrong cave.

[Asri Teroka]

This one loves the smell of inquisitors in the morning.

[Asri Teroka]

What basis for this read at all?

People tend not to forget their partners

Fair I guess, but can still be faked

Thing is something smart never said Asri is not scum with this statement. Asri understood this. You choose not to. This one senses the beginning of an agenda.

[Asri Teroka]

imo t3 is the scummiest of the low posters

that said im not sure if its just that my main experience with t3 is playing scum with him when he didn't really do anything

I don’t remember being scum with you but it is 12:30 AM

I’m usually a very low poster. Tbh I just find it very hard to generate good content as either alignment. I often spend 20 minutes reading through 5 pages, analyzing them, trying to best understand them, and then I walk away with nothing

Just no.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: fire

Horrible.

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: hu tao

This one wanted to make a post saying not sure about this vote, Hu Tao could ultimately be lurktown whereas T3 has at least interfaced and can be scum, but this is a good vote, both don't really vibe right.

This one did like your Italiano vote, he hasn't really said much of note recently.

This one feels Cook is still a very likely scum though. If something smart is town then what cook did felt like shade to discredit before something smart might get town cred.

[Asri Teroka]

cook you are voting asri

can you answer please whether you think asri is scum or if this is a policy vote

and if you do think they're scum then why

and if it is a policy vote can you like not, and vote a scumread instead

oh yeah no it's policy right now

UNVOTE: asri because fire said so

This one won't attack you for this, they wanted to. Right now it's best to step back and be happy

[Asri Teroka]

What basis for this read at all?

People tend not to forget their partners

Fair I guess, but can still be faked

Thing is something smart never said Asri is not scum with this statement. Asri understood this. You choose not to. This one senses the beginning of an agenda.

I don't understand your point. Why would I care about that? I'm just asking for his reasoning for that read

Well, you know you're not a partner with Asri for one. But, Asri is chill today. In essence they feel fire is town and something smart might be, and right now have grown suspicious of you for returning at the same time as T3. Perhaps even also cook but ultimately not something to case.

This one would rather say if you are town, share your mind. This one is going to play pillars of eternity.

P-edit: Considering that vote and your emotions and cook's setup of it perhaps you and cook are not S/S though.

[Asri Teroka]

This one can't stop giggling. You, cook and and T3 have decided to attack a hornet's with dove feathers and this one is mighty curious who's either going to back down first or get some actual poison.

Perhaps T3 has felt decent talking about this one's wagon, albeit a ghost. Still a kneejerk omgus v9te from T3 though and no seeming desire to be there for town.

Erynis, well it and Cook feel like they are seeking sanctuary from a raging storm perhaps. If scum, b9th ch9se the wrong cave.

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. The typos at the end of this post just make it even funnier.

Before I saw this post I was reading through the thread and partially considering backing down on you to vote Ausuka because I thought some points made by fire were interesting. But I knew that if I did, you would say that I was intimidated by your poetic masterpiece of a post, and your unwavering and forceful conviction that I am scum. That I am caught scum who wants to back off and not continue to fight a losing battle. Bravo!

Bravo indeed.

[Asri Teroka]

Hu Tao and Something Smart should probably be town here. Katy still town, yes. This one is feeling better about Hu Tao's fire vote.

This one is considering T3 and Cook eliminations for now, won't push Erynis. Not sure about iamveryhappy. Guess this one won't push them either.

[Asri Teroka]

I guess there’s a certain level of analysis that I’m used to expecting from SS that he’s not giving this game.

What level?

This one hates meta but they feel this exact thing from T3. Something Smart, when you can, can you give a rundown on T3's Black vote and why you think it was made?

[Asri Teroka]

This one is aboard for a T3 elim. Voting cook has lost its appeal.

Would be interesting to have more takes from invisibility and italianoVD

[Asri Teroka]

Cook, Hu Tao has done far more than T3 though. As has happy, however confusing some find them. And this is regardless of alignment.

Yes, you will say you are speaking only of the first half. This one is still going off general feels tho, and isn't sure which mindset to attribute to your insights. It definitely feels retroactive and thay's the point. Scum positions while town hunts, generally.

There are days left for people to say their say so that's all.

[Asri Teroka]

Lol Ausuka maybe(some parts definetely yeah) this one imagined it but they saw you say vanilla numerous times and even one time when you felt more scummy maybe believed you were fake trolling to appear like relaxed town, or to mess with fire specifically about whether you're a pr or not.

This explanation is more wholesome than this one's paranoias so it's canon. Vanilla a good flavor.

[Asri Teroka]

Is there?