Mini Normal 2303 [Postgame!!!!]

[Cook]

that's what scum or town pr is for me

[iamveryhappy]

wat is italiano doing
if that slot is scum I'm basically spewed town

[Asri Teroka]

Early on I hadn’t really fully sunken my teeth into the game yet, so Asri was in fact correct when they said I was just throwing out townreads. I did that based off of what I thought could be the most likely at the time with the RVS stage and Cook.

Invis actually did/does feel like town to me and the mason claim was just an over exaggerated way of me saying that I really townread them.

Early on when everyone was fluffposting Invis interacted with me in a way that I thought was loose and fun which I don’t think scum would/could be able to maintain.

In contrast iamveryhappy ironically didn’t seem very happy. Even my first interaction with him felt kinda awkward. The focus on what was considered RVS fluff posting between me and Invis is probably nai, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was done with a scum mindset.

Even Invis voting me after the claim makes me really think they are town because it’s most likely what I would’ve done if that was done to me.

Why did I fake claim in the first place I’ve seen people ask. Honestly there was nothing going on in my head at the time lol it was literally something I just did. If anyone tries to ask me to get deeper with it, sorry but you won’t get anything there.

420 makes me think happy and Cook could be partners or happy is town

I think for now I’m voting VOTE: Cook.

I could also vote for iamveryhappy and probably Princess, but I just don’t think scum would be that clumsy around a wagon the way Princess was. I could be wrong about that though.

I probably missed some things, so if y’all wanna tag me in posts you want me to answer or comment on, I can answer them later.

I still don't like this defense
Parked for now.
I'm forced to be happy, as I told you in our first interaction
help me

You offer no meaningful input on Erynis or cook? The invis townread when invis is sussing you. You call this a defense is also a case.

All your interactions are surface level, reactionary and narrative rather than context orientated.

[Asri Teroka]

I don't think IVD's strong townread of Invisibility makes a lot of sense tbh. I'm more inclined to believe this is an informed read rather than one developed naturally. And the mason thing just feels like a buddying attempt when I look through the lens of scum!IVD

Still planning on iso'ing this today to get a better idea of where I stand

At the time this one agreed with you, now they don't, and not invis either this one thinks?

It is interesting that this view is held in a post where VD susses cook and erynis. Like happy you forebear talking about it.

[Asri Teroka]

Alright, here's my IVD ISO

Mambo Italianoooooo

19 - "I am very happy too" ...why? Because you rolled scum? This is NAI but if IVD is scum then this would be funny
#20-#24 are meaningless greetings to other players
27 - IVD asking happy what he wants to talk about. Nothing here
35 - you forgot to include "rolled scum" here btw
More fluffy posts here
88 - this feels like a joke vote on T3, so not much here
89 - I like IVD calling Invis out here because her TR did feel weird and was part of the reason I voted her early. I'm curious to see where this goes because I know that IVD strongly townreads Invis, so this comment must not have made the same scummy impression it did for me
94 - not a big fan of "hope we are both town this game" but it's NAI
97 - asking Ausuka if her vote was serious. Kinda seems like busy work
98 - Invis follows up to #89 by just saying "yes", and IVD just says "I want town vibes." I'm not sure why IVD didn't question Invis' townread further here? I don't like this
102 - tells Ausuka it's too early to ask for elaboration so he wants to let it marinate. Idk what this means? I don't think it's ever too early to ask. You may not get an answer but that's beside the point
107 - IVD speaking for Invis here and giving a reason for her vote
124 - admitting Fire got townread by Invis for almost nothing. I think town!IVD would question this townread more
Invisibility defends IVD in 122 and IVD agrees with her in 128. I'm not liking 128 really. It reads as "yeah, I wouldn't do this as scum"
133 - IVD seems to want to take on happy here
150 - "obviously I wouldn't want it to get pushed through if you're town" ...this feels yucky. Why even say this? Other than that I do agree with this post fundamentally
I also like 213 and 214 regarding the Cook wagon
215 - IVD quotes four people (Invis, Cook, Asri, and HPE) and says that one of them is scum. This feels weird because it's a literal echo of what I said 5 minutes before in 211. This isn't really an original thought
217 - he votes Asri here and says that Invis and HPE are town because of their town. He says "especially Invis". This just feels so pockety considering the upcoming mason thingy. I have an issue with this read because I don't think Invis' tone is townie at all. Obviously we could just be having a difference of opinion here but the read still just feels forced
271 - he votes Asri again here which is weird, but maybe he just forgot he was already voting them? I think I like IVD's thought process here but it's definitely a perspective scum could have
277 - this feels like a busywork question to Cook
362 - unvoting Asri here feels weird. To me it reads as if IVD is backing off of a wagon that didn't gain any traction. But what I don't like is he doesn't seem interested in pursuing his thought process from #215 above. If he thinks there's scum in that 4, why would he then not turn to pressure Cook here?
365 - this is the mason buddy comment. I don't like it
394 - I think I agree with the premise of this post but again, I don't think trusting Invis here out of everyone makes a lot of sense from a town perspective
396 - I actually agree with this
531 - IVD apologizes for not being here in 9 hours? This seems like he's worried about his optics, which isn't necessarily scummy, but it's an observation I've made
567 - I'm not liking this explanation as to why IVD fake masonclaimed. "An overexaggerated way of saying I really townread them." Yeah, I'm not really buying this. I actually like the Cook vote here though


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tl;dr - I was kinda hoping to get a better idea of where I stand with this slot. I feel it in my gut that I'm scumreading him though because I found myself thinking a lot of this ISO comes from a malicious perspective as I was reading through it

I think I'm ok pressuring here right now

VOTE: ItalianoVD

This one only skimmed but this might be a camouflaged distraction vote from scum! Black

[Asri Teroka]

I think one of Invisibility/IVD might be scum but definitely not both

Also not liking this.

[Asri Teroka]

I think invisibility is probably just town. I'm less sure about italiano - I think the reasons most people are scumreading him, like the mason claim or whatever, don't make much sense, but like he isn't super towny either

Seems good but a bit wishy washy on Italiano. This one expecting a townread here from Ausuka, this is not it

[Asri Teroka]

I'm trying to ask about your read on Italiano

Like, do you think he expects invisibility to claim masons with him? After invisibility calls him scum so strongly

Is there more to the mason claim being scummy?

respectively:
- ask about it then, or point to a place when you asked about it please
- no, no i don't
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why in the goddamn would town fakeclaim.

if there is no logical reason for it, then there you go. that's why i scumread italiano

Town fake claim all the time under varying circumstances and you probably know this.

[Asri Teroka]

this one thinks it'd be willing to ball on italiano??

Because of the sus?

[Asri Teroka]

VOTE: Black

Excellent vote.

VOTE: Black

that's an unusual vote! mind explaining it?

Very very weird response to an excellent vote.

VOTE: Black

Go on

Careful, attempts to draw T3 out.

Black and Cook probs scum together.

[Asri Teroka]

wat is italiano doing
if that slot is scum I'm basically spewed town

No. Italiano has points against cook and erynis. You swinging this narrative either means you are vanilla town or low effort scum.

[Hu Tao]

I think one of Invisibility/IVD might be scum but definitely not both

Also not liking this.

Why? What's wrong with what they said?

[Asri Teroka]

I think one of Invisibility/IVD might be scum but definitely not both

Also not liking this.

Why? What's wrong with what they said?

Why ask?

[Asri Teroka]

This one feels it's time to shake things up.

VOTE: cook

[Cook]

how is that shaking things up?

[Cook]

how is voting me going to change anything

[Asri Teroka]

This one impressed by your response time.

Any pool with a rock thrown in is stirred.

[Cook]

fair point i guess

[Cook]

just don't get why people are voting me

[HighPrincessErinys]

this one thinks it'd be willing to ball on italiano??

Because of the sus?

Yeahhh he's not really giving himself a good look.

[HighPrincessErinys]

Actually this one might have misread the question?? It's almost 3am. Not an OMGUS either way. Bro's just plain lookin' weird.

[Asri Teroka]

Actually this one might have misread the question?? It's almost 3am. Not an OMGUS either way. Bro's just plain lookin' weird.

This one was referencing his sus on it. If it wants to say why the cook sus from him is looking weird?

[Asri Teroka]

Actually this one might have misread the question?? It's almost 3am. Not an OMGUS either way. Bro's just plain lookin' weird.

This one was referencing his sus on it. If it wants to say why the cook sus from him is looking weird?

This one has also been sussing it to be clear and has VD as town. Is this one weird?

[HighPrincessErinys]

Actually this one might have misread the question?? It's almost 3am. Not an OMGUS either way. Bro's just plain lookin' weird.

This one was referencing his sus on it. If it wants to say why the cook sus from him is looking weird?

The only thing this one would really wanna bring up wrt Italiano's read is the seeming gap in his progression, as he states multiple times he townreads me before saying he might be willing to vote me in 567. Just wondering what's up with that.

[Asri Teroka]

His cook push feels natural.