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In post 15, bangthemafia wrote:Overreaction.
WTF.
If you are a town, you have exposed not 1 but 3 power roles. Also you hav indicated that there are only 1 extra lover and only 1 extra mason assuming that mason PT and lovers PM will tell the list of all members.
So @Radiant and @Not_Mafia, if you are town and know Grey is lying, expose him.
On the contrary, since there are multuple factions likely, each faction would be more interested to take out others before taking out townies. So scums are likely to claim citizens quite early. For now i hav eyes on you.
And for using a possible genuine reason as an excuse to make the RVS sound more like a serious vote,
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Ignore the easier post.In post 153, alban wrote:In post 15, bangthemafia wrote:Overreaction.
WTF.
If you are a town, you have exposed not 1 but 3 power roles. Also you hav indicated that there are only 1 extra lover and only 1 extra mason assuming that mason PT and lovers PM will tell the list of all members.
So @Radiant and @Not_Mafia, if you are town and know Grey is lying, expose him.
On the contrary, since there are multuple factions likely, each faction would be more interested to take out others before taking out townies. So scums are likely to claim citizens quite early. For now i hav eyes on you.
And for using a possible genuine reason as an excuse to make the RVS sound more like a serious vote,
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Why not?In post 17, Not_Mafia wrote:Why did you RVS in this set-up RC?-
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Why aren't you pushing bangthemafia for an answer?In post 18, -Grey- wrote:
So you scold me for roleclaiming on the grounds that it outs three (presumably town) power roles... in a role madness game, no less... then illustrate why my claim doesn't prove alignment at allIn post 15, bangthemafia wrote:WTF.
If you are a town, you have exposed not 1 but 3 power roles. Also you hav indicated that there are only 1 extra lover and only 1 extra mason assuming that mason PT and lovers PM will tell the list of all members.
So @Radiant and @Not_Mafia, if you are town and know Grey is lying, expose him.
On the contrary, since there are multuple factions likely, each faction would be more interested to take out others before taking out townies. So scums are likely to claim citizens quite early. For now i hav eyes on you.
And for using a possible genuine reason as an excuse to make the RVS sound more like a serious vote,
VOTE: RadiantCowbellsin the same post.
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That's a circular argument. He is more likely to answer if you ask him something.In post 162, -Grey- wrote:
Why are you asking this question when bang hasn't even POSTED since my vote?In post 157, alban wrote:Why aren't you pushing bangthemafia for an answer?
I don't think this is very important, so i will back off. But i think you should follow up with him.
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There's something known as lurking. Which can be dealt with by questioning. But as said before, it's your shit to clean up.In post 165, -Grey- wrote:
You don't know the definition of circulation argument.In post 164, alban wrote:
That's a circular argument. He is more likely to answer if you ask him something.In post 162, -Grey- wrote:
Why are you asking this question when bang hasn't even POSTED since my vote?In post 157, alban wrote:Why aren't you pushing bangthemafia for an answer?
I don't think this is very important, so i will back off. But i think you should follow up with him.
I am more interested in knowing about your motivation behind your first post.
You asked why I wasn't pushing for answers when the dude hasn't even HAD A CHANCE to show he was ignoring my vote in the first place.
Your question was bullshit.
However, i have given you SEVERAL CHANCES. Why aren't you saying anything about your first post? Was there an ulterior motive?
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Theatrical. I wonder why.In post 36, Spade_Ace wrote:Nope. My role isn't less powerful. The revelation has zero impact.
It's a single word. The first part has something to do with where cowboys are found in movies. The second part has something to do with my profile pic.-
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This is so not you. The style I mean. I haven't read your games here to know if this is adapted specifically for ms. But all this drama is not you.In post 42, Spade_Ace wrote:Hey Charloux. Nice to see you again.
@grey I don't think it was shitty. I like being surprised.
My choice was pretty Wild....
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What did you ask me?In post 175, -Grey- wrote:I didn't answer at all.
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I don't like this post. You are repeating something someone said, and then you are revealing your role even without anyone asking about it. Why?In post 33, Spade_Ace wrote:Hey!!!
Parrot role looked really interesting. Why would you discard that?
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And i get it that it has zero impact. But why would anyone announce it?In post 36, Spade_Ace wrote:Nope. My role isn't less powerful. The revelation has zero impact.
It's a single word. The first part has something to do with where cowboys are found in movies. The second part has something to do with my profile pic.-
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That was my first thought too.In post 40, -Grey- wrote:I'd legit like to see a bangthemafia wagon.
The way he raged at me for my claim and then put out a flaccid RC vote, he was hoping to spark a wagon on me but didn't want the blowback of doing it himself.-
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This can easily happen. Though I understand your exasoeration.In post 71, Spade_Ace wrote:
@grey and vaxkiller I dare you both to get me lynched today.In post 62, Vaxkiller wrote:
You are saying your role is "Wild Card"In post 60, Spade_Ace wrote:I still didn't understand what your point is. I discarded alien prober, kept wildcard. Was given the new role when the game started.-
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Hmm..In post 192, Spade_Ace wrote:
Ohh didnt know having the same opinion as someone else was a crime.In post 188, alban wrote:
I don't like this post. You are repeating something someone said, and then you are revealing your role even without anyone asking about it. Why?In post 33, Spade_Ace wrote:Hey!!!
Parrot role looked really interesting. Why would you discard that?
Am confident that if I reveal the role that I 'kept', the impact of that on the game would be zero.
@alban the WHOLE point of it was that i WASN'T revealing my actual role. I was only revealing the choice I 'kept'.
Why? Cos it was fun that was why. But people have sucked the fun part out of it so much so that i regret it now.
That post read as if you are sucking up to people. Sorry if this further decreases your interest in the game.-
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Why aren't you trying to improve the 'game state'?In post 194, Spade_Ace wrote:
Though i find him annoying as hell, he appears as the only player wants to improve the game state.In post 187, alban wrote:Spade, why did you unvote?-
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Also, please explain how he is doing that.In post 194, Spade_Ace wrote:
Though i find him annoying as hell, he appears as the only player wants to improve the game state.In post 187, alban wrote:Spade, why did you unvote?-
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You are again revealing your role.In post 198, Spade_Ace wrote:
That wasn't an actual dare. I was trying to convey that I have a role that can be easily verified as town.In post 193, alban wrote:
This can easily happen. Though I understand your exasoeration.In post 71, Spade_Ace wrote:
@grey and vaxkiller I dare you both to get me lynched today.In post 62, Vaxkiller wrote:
You are saying your role is "Wild Card"In post 60, Spade_Ace wrote:I still didn't understand what your point is. I discarded alien prober, kept wildcard. Was given the new role when the game started.
But it appears that i was mistaken on the actual power of my role and cant be verified.
My role is weird. I win when town wins. But my power is anti-town. Dont know what to do with that.
P-edit: you slept the whole day?
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It's a bit coincidental and convenient that 'the benefit of the doubt' is happening now that he is suspecting others apart from you. You omgused him when he was building a case on you.In post 202, Spade_Ace wrote:
Could very well be. But the game just started. And am giving him the benefit of the doubt.In post 199, alban wrote:I thought so too, but now I think he is pretending.-
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Is this how they vent anger in where to come from?In post 210, -Grey- wrote:Motherfucker, I'll votepark you out of spite of you don't shut the fuck up.
Stop swearing. I am serious.
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You have already heard it in 199 and 212. Your melodrama (considered effort and improvement by some) rings fake.In post 219, -Grey- wrote:
So in your little worldview, scum tries to win by being assholes and pissing people off, right?In post 213, alban wrote:
Is this how they vent anger in where to come from?In post 210, -Grey- wrote:Motherfucker, I'll votepark you out of spite of you don't shut the fuck up.
Stop swearing. I am serious.
VOTE: Grey
Voting me for any other excuse than thinking I am scum is basically admitting to playing to a scum wincon, so I'm sure you'll find some way to call me scum because I used a dirty word.
Let's hear it.
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In post 305, Gamma Emerald wrote:mmmm Alban feels like he's backpedaling on page 7
Please sum up reasons for your hierarchy, especially on me, Grey, Spade, Bang and RC.In post 321, Gamma Emerald wrote:Town
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Charloux, Kop, Secret Agent Jin, Not_Mafia, davesaz - Null/unsorted line here
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Charles and Dave might be sorted at some time soon.
I believe you must have mentioned these as you were posting, but it will be good to see them together in one post.-
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She could be frustrated as a town. We have all been in her shoes.In post 346, Spade_Ace wrote:I doubt town!RC would vote herself so early in the game and that too with just 3 previous votes.
So. Bye
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I am surprised you find her self-vote suspicious enough to vote for her when town!you has done itout of frustration in our games. Bang can confirm a frustrated town!Spade's predisposition to self-vote.so many times
Who knows what affiliation she is, but I find it suspicious that you won't give her that leeway and acknowledge that a town can be driven to self-vote.-
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Why will a scum tunnel and then throw a tantrum by self-voting? It's a lose-lose situation.In post 355, Charloux wrote:RC is like a child throwing a tantrum. There is no frustration involved, he just wants NM dead and he won't progress with his reads until he achieves this. So, one of them might have to go.-
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In post 359, Spade_Ace wrote:
You must he confusing me with someone else. I have never selfvoted ever. And if bang confirms that, he is scum along with you.In post 354, alban wrote:
I am surprised you find her self-vote suspicious enough to vote for her when town!you has done itout of frustration in our games. Bang can confirm a frustrated town!Spade's predisposition to self-vote.so many times
Who knows what affiliation she is, but I find it suspicious that you won't give her that leeway and acknowledge that a town can be driven to self-vote.In post 360, Spade_Ace wrote:I have never played with RC. But I doubt whether a person with his level of experience in MS would resort to such 'frustrated' displays especially when i dont find anything for them to be frustrated about.
RC hasn't even made a proper case against NM other than day NM might be a lyncher.
That's a blatant lie or a case of bad memory. I don't understand why scum!you would withhold information like this especially when Bang is there to confirm this. Let's wait for Bang to show up. But wait, if he doesn't say what you want, he is a scum too? So, in essence whoever may disagree with you is scum.In post 361, Spade_Ace wrote:*i have never selfvoted ever as TOWN
I haven't ISO'd him to see if he was frustrated. I don't remember his game too. But assuming that he wasn't frustrated, and that town!RC will not self-vote out of frustration, it still goes against your conclusion that scum!RC will self-vote, especially given 'his level of experience' and 'when i dont find anything for them to be frustrated about'.
So, it's still an opportunistic vote.
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First, since there are so many players from the earlier game: Iabout the Avatar issue in 657. Yes, I was scum there. And I doled out a lot of shit. However, explanation given in the context of Spade's Avatar was absolutely the truth. You only have my word for it, except a scarce mention in the scum PT (http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p8533449). Read the last couple of lines innever ever liedpara.'Who submits the kill'
Page 7 apparent backpedaling: There was none. I didn't suspect Grey till later. But on page 7, I didn't suspect him. I was in fact thinking of him as a town trying to bait scum in his initial post. I asked Grey to explain what was he trying to achieve. Multiple times. I was curious to understand how he was trying to bait the scum. I asked himon page 7 alone. Ref. 152, 159, 164 and 167.4 timesRather he was replying to me all the time, without any reference to what I was asking. So to pressurise, I voted for him in 167. Pat came the reply from him in 169. Not that he answered my question, but at least he referred to it. That's all that pressure vote was gonna achieve[/color][/b], I realised that, and I removed it in 174.He wouldn't reply.
I asked Grey two questions:
This translates into understanding how was he hoping to trap the scum?1. What was the motivation in claiming?:
Assuming that the motivation was to trap a scum (no Kop, it2. Why aren't you questioning Bang?:. I thought that too, but Grey himself said much later that that post was meant to see who bites the bait), and you got someone (in Bang) who did, why are you letting him off easily? I have seen it happening so many times that the original thoughts and motivations of players get lost in the deluge of posts. Should I have worded it differently? Maybe. Maybe I should have asked him politely, and not asked him 'why' coz that questions his motivation. And I didn't doubt his motivation anyway (at least not then). What I meant was, time to deliver what you indirectly promised in the first post.wasn't a joke
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Agree with you about Charl, but dont agree with you about NM.In post 378, RadiantCowbells wrote:Charloux's scum but I'm not doing jack while there's this many votes on me.-
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So it's logic vs the lack of it. Ignorant and arrogant. Lethal combination.In post 380, -Grey- wrote:
No it doesn't.In post 376, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay that makes sense
He was bitching at me for not pressuring a slot that hadn't even posted since my vote on them.
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Can't do it. Whatsapp based games.In post 370, Kop wrote:
Can you back the point up that it's a blatant lie, or do we have to wait for Bangthemafia to come?In post 369, alban wrote:In post 359, Spade_Ace wrote:
You must he confusing me with someone else. I have never selfvoted ever. And if bang confirms that, he is scum along with you.In post 354, alban wrote:
I am surprised you find her self-vote suspicious enough to vote for her when town!you has done itout of frustration in our games. Bang can confirm a frustrated town!Spade's predisposition to self-vote.so many times
Who knows what affiliation she is, but I find it suspicious that you won't give her that leeway and acknowledge that a town can be driven to self-vote.In post 360, Spade_Ace wrote:I have never played with RC. But I doubt whether a person with his level of experience in MS would resort to such 'frustrated' displays especially when i dont find anything for them to be frustrated about.
RC hasn't even made a proper case against NM other than day NM might be a lyncher.
That's a blatant lie or a case of bad memory. I don't understand why scum!you would withhold information like this especially when Bang is there to confirm this. Let's wait for Bang to show up. But wait, if he doesn't say what you want, he is a scum too? So, in essence whoever may disagree with you is scum.In post 361, Spade_Ace wrote:*i have never selfvoted ever as TOWN
I haven't ISO'd him to see if he was frustrated. I don't remember his game too. But assuming that he wasn't frustrated, and that town!RC will not self-vote out of frustration, it still goes against your conclusion that scum!RC will self-vote, especially given 'his level of experience' and 'when i dont find anything for them to be frustrated about'.
So, it's still an opportunistic vote.
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Explained in 358. It doesn't matter to Charl whom to lynch between RC and NM (355).In post 390, Vaxkiller wrote:
Agree why?In post 381, alban wrote:
Agree with you about Charl, but dont agree with you about NM.In post 378, RadiantCowbells wrote:Charloux's scum but I'm not doing jack while there's this many votes on me.
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You and Grey could be the kind of players who wait for people to get in the game on their own accord. If I find someone scummy and they are awol, I will keep questioning them, hoping to build up enough pressure (especially if they are lurking) and for them to feel compelled to return to the game.In post 392, Spade_Ace wrote:
You seem to not get what grey is trying to say. He voted for bang in 18. Bang didn't join the game again until 228.In post 375, alban wrote:
Assuming that the motivation was to trap a scum (no Kop, it2. Why aren't you questioning Bang?:. I thought that too, but Grey himself said much later that that post was meant to see who bites the bait), and you got someone (in Bang) who did, why are you letting him off easily? I have seen it happening so many times that the original thoughts and motivations of players get lost in the deluge of posts. Should I have worded it differently? Maybe. Maybe I should have asked him politely, and not asked him 'why' coz that questions his motivation. And I didn't doubt his motivation anyway (at least not then). What I meant was, time to deliver what you indirectly promised in the first post.wasn't a joke
If a player isn't responding the only thing you can do is ask other people to join the wagon which he was did in 40 and 41. Then the wildcard stuff happened. He kept indirectly pushing bang even in 44 and 52. He didnt change his vote until 121.
So yes your question on why he wasn't questioning Bangdoesn't make sense.
I rather you did not take up cudgels on behalf of other players, especially explain other people's stands for them. Even if a small possibility according to you, that's still a finite possibility that you are wrong about Grey being a townie. Hearing a defence from him (even if unlikely to be given) could have given me more clarity on him.-
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Charl is known to carry out such stunts as scum. He did that in our last game as scum partners, and I think he is generally trying to take boldness as scum to another level. Playing in a way that's so obviously scummy that people will clear your slot. Plus, his earlier statement about not bothering about who between rc and nm is lynchec was scummy too.
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My reads so far. More for myself so that I don't have to re-read:
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Vax (reasonable, logical), NM (looks like in a tvt with RC)
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Bang (mixed reactions on his posts), Dave, Kop & Gamma (no clear reads on them), Grey (illogical, selective blindness towards Spade's scumtells. scumleaning)
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VOTE: Spade
Will elaborate in 24 hours.
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You not analysing theglaring inconsistenciesin Spade's behaviour is the main reason why I am scumleaning on you right now. Your scumhunt is appearing only selectively 'correct'. You are affrontingselectively, and letting others go scot-free. The natural response when faced with an aggressive maniac like you is that people become defensive and forget what they were asking you in the first place. You have always escaped (in this game) answering questions by posing a tirade on the questioner, creating melodrama, or ignoring and deflecting it entirely by questioning someone else.
To summarise my case on you (and by association on Spade):
1. On day 1, I asked you a question. Youevadedit multiple times. You got back to me only after I voted for you. You didn't even bother to answer. You just created drama. Have already mentioned this in 375.
2. 533: Towards the end of day 1, I made a comment of a few lines. Your response?TL;DR.
3. On day 2, 559, 619: Bang has already asked you a question multiple times, and you haven't even bothered to answer. You are talking about him to others like Vax, Spade and Gamma, but youaren't answeringhim.
4. 565: You didn't read Bang's posts. But youvoted for Spadefor not reading Bang's post 561. And on top of everything, you are declaring that as if that bravado is something that only a townie can project.
5.Spade's behaviouraround Charl's wagon and beginning of day 2 doesn't sit right with me. I was gonna elaborate on this tonight. But let's briefly go over it.
- He votes for me in 395. Read his reason. Coz I am suspecting you and I didn't give links to the posts.
- He doesn't say anything for next 90 posts. Resurfaces in 485 in which he votes for Charl. No questions asked, no clarifications sought. Is it a coincidence that this is immediately after your vote on Charl in 484? Another thing. He votes first. And then he asks a question. If he is not sure, he should wait for the answer. If he is sure, he shouldn't feel the need to ask the question. My guess, he is keeping a door open to escape the wagon in case it doesn't reach majority.
- His next post is on day 2, an innocuous question in 549. Directed to you. By this time, this must be clear to you that he is trying desperately to buddy you. You vote for Dave in 540. Spade shheps you in 553.
6. So yeah,Spade sheeps you multiple times(votes or contemplating votes on Charl, Dave, Bang, me). When you ask him, he says he trusts you. Knowing Spade in real life, let me tell you this. Spade has a mind of his own. He would not say that he sheeped someone coz he believes their reads. So his behaviour is quite unlike himself.
That's on him. Forget that. If someone sheeps you like that, you should question them back. Why don't you ask him why does he think you are right? You have time to go through my p-edits, but you don't have brains to see through his probable agenda? So yeah, something is appearing more and morefake in your scumhunting.
And yet I have put you in the null zone coz I think there's a possibility thatyou could be a VI.
At this point in the game, given your style of play and the way you are tunnelled about certain people including me, I don't think it even matters. You are most likely to say TL;DR and skip this post. On my end, if this continues, I am most likely to vote for you (from the null pile) if it came to that.-
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alban Mafia Scum
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589 is not that surprising by itself, but just 10 posts after 579, it's definitely surprising. He puts you and me in the same category as scums. And then something happens, and he appeals to you, but not to me. I am wondering what was it? Was it coz you were posting and I was absent since day 2. Dunno. He should explain that though.
I am confused about Spade coz the more I think, the more I think this is not at all how he plays. My overall impression of Spade is this (and this is not necessarily negative): I think he has researched a lot about how to play on mafiascum and his style is also shaped a lot by the games he has played here. I also think he is playing a lot by the book, trying to play more as is expected of a player and less as himself, and has generated a style for himself that is markedly different from the way he used to play with us (which I think was way too effective than the way he is playing now). That means I (and you too I am guessing) have no handle on him. It's possible that that's the reason I am finding him scummy.
On the other hand, there are still many points about him this game that have nothing to do with style, and more to do with the content and intent of his posts. For example, starting with his initial vote on RC (for his self-vote) in 346, trying to implicate me in 353 for suggesting RC could be frustrated, the language of denial of self-voting in 359, and blatantly sheeping Grey throughout. He finding me scummy coz of the reasons he mentions in the earlier posts as well as in 393 and 394 are too simplistic for him. Just as I know him, he knows my game.
This is why I am confused about him. But I am still voting for him coz I would expect more from a player of his level, regardless of whether he is scum or town. For someone to playing a markedly different (and simplistic) game, there's more possibility of him being a scum than town.-
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alban Mafia Scum
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Courtesy? Rich coming from you, who refused to engage in a conversation till a few days back. Leaving aside the content of your posts, your language is courteous? You can't make random statements about courtesy to suit your narrative. Everyone knows that I tried it with you, you refused to show it to me, so now idfc. Stop playing the victim here. tbh, it doesn't matter. Get to the game. Let's get the job done.-
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