In post 1092, bangthemafia wrote:Before we start voting for NM, we need a strategy for night and day 4, since some of us may not be around.
VAX, who do u feel are the other scum? I know I m a town, you and Grey hav claimed townies, I also feel Alban is a town. If we hav 3+2+2, or 3+3+1, one of the above 4 is lying. For me, it will be either u or alban.
On the other hand, if we are 4+3, why were there 2 kills on night 2? I think if it was a vig, they must claim right now. Coz it makes us understand the number of factions we are dealing with. What do u feel Grey, Alban, Vax?
Also i wanna check if watcher is always a townie in this setup
In post 1093, bangthemafia wrote:Fuck! There is a werewolf watcher listed in the roles!!!
In post 1099, bangthemafia wrote:@Alban, Grey, you guys online?
If NM is speaking truth, we have 3+3+1 now. That only means-
if alban is town, 3 werewolves (vax, kop, gamma slot), 1 scum (Not mafia)
If vax is town watcher, alban replaces him in the above configuration.
2 possibilities-
Lynching NM will ensure that there wont b 2 kills assuming we dont have a vig. But night 3 will start with 3+3. So scum will kill a townie, and win with 2+3.
Lynching Vax will mean night 3 starting as 3+2+1.
Even in the best scenario, where NM kills a werewolf and a townie is killed by werewolves, we start day 4 with 2+1+1. It is a sure loss for town as the surviving scum will win at night 4.
In worst scenario, both factions kill a townie, so day 4 starts with 1+2+1, its town loss.
In another scenario, on night 3, NM kills a wolf, wolves kill NM. So we start day 4 as 3+1. Thats the only town win situation, and so wolves will NOT kill NM but go for town on night 3.
So what do u guys think?
My suggestion-
1. Dont hurry for this lynch. Lets think carefully.
2. Vax, please claim completely.
3. If there is a town Vig, come out instantly coz then town has lot of possibilities.
4. I think its time for a complete claim.
What do u guys say?
In post 1104, -Grey- wrote:Lol no.In post 1094, Not_Mafia wrote:I am Mafia,but Charloux was my only partner, I'm pretty Vax is wolf and probably has a partner, if we lynch Vax you can tell me who to NK
Vax MIGHT be a wolf. You're CLAIMED mafia.
Find scum, Lynch scum.
You're the only acceptable lynch today. If you're the last mafia, that's your tough luck.
In post 1106, -Grey- wrote:Town vig should NOT claim here.
There is NO reason to think they should. It accomplishes no town goals when we already have a confirmed scum lynch.
Even speculating as to who they are is antitown.
Drop the vig talk. Don't do scum's job for them.
In post 1107, bangthemafia wrote:Grey, I see your reasoning.
Why I suggested Vig claim was this-
Presence of town Vig almost surely tells us we hav only 1 killing scum faction.
Absence means 2 factions.
If there are 2 factions, thats the precise reason town has still not lost. The moment we lynch NM, if he is speaking truth, we will eliminate 1 faction- we will be helping the other faction by doing their job for them through our lynch.
So I thought that if there are 2 factions, it will help to lynch in the faction other than NM.
But I know I am thinking of worst case where we hav 4+3 and a vig OR 3+3+1. But its perfectly possible that we hav the best case where just 1 faction is there with only 1 or 2 scum left. And NM is trying hard to build suspicion among townies to try desperately not get lynched.
In post 1115, -Grey- wrote:The Spade kill was a vig kill. End of story.In post 1107, bangthemafia wrote:Presence of town Vig almost surely tells us we hav only 1 killing scum faction.
Absence means 2 factions.
Scum would not have removed a free mislynch from the game.
What happened, Grey? You convinced me and then this turnaround?In post 1117, -Grey- wrote:What has happened in this game to suggest a second scum faction?In post 1107, bangthemafia wrote:The moment we lynch NM, if he is speaking truth, we will eliminate 1 faction- we will be helping the other faction by doing their job for them through our lynch.
Nothing whatsoever.
NM is scaremongering.