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HERRRO.
Not much to catch up on because I been following it.
I have to say currently the one thing that pings so far is MS' entrance to the game, however, I have to see if this gambit is likely to come from scum-ms or town-ms. Something about it feels off, but i don't know why.
Also i reaaaaally didn't like Zeb's role fishing in 30 , but because of the join date I might be meowing up the wrong tree, but I'll likely take a glance at his games after I post this. Although him explaining I'm getting a gut vibe because I can see him genuinely trying to scumhunt based off the wording. (I know stupid logic, eh??)
Ohaaaaaaai Huntress. Let's dance sooner than later, kay? (:
~Vote later on when I see fit.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 53, Metal Sonic wrote:Oh yay! Hi meow! Are you town?
Hi! Yes!
In post 54, EspressoDan wrote:James May left
UNVOTE:
VOTE: nyanyanya because your name is hard to type.
Random Voting Stage is best stage!
Uh, why are you sad he left? He's now replaced with an active player that you can read and sort.
Why are you doing RSV.2?? I don't know in mind we are out of it , but I still don't know where I want to vote as of yet.
In post 60, Huntress wrote:In post 52, Malakittens wrote:Ohaaaaaaai Huntress. Let's dance sooner than later, kay? (:
Hi Mala! The sooner the better.
In post 52, Malakittens wrote:Also i reaaaaally didn't like Zeb's role fishing in 30 , but because of the join date I might be meowing up the wrong tree, but I'll likely take a glance at his games after I post this. Although him explaining I'm getting a gut vibe because I can see him genuinely trying to scumhunt based off the wording. (I know stupid logic, eh??)
His one completed game shows it might be a playstyle thing. I'm in two minds about him but hopefully I'll have a clearer idea when he's responded to my questions. So far, the only conclusion I've come to is that he and MS are unlikely to be both scum.
In the meantime,
Vote: EspressoDan
Yeah I glanced at it last night before the power went off and my phone died. I didn't see anything 'terrible' in the ISO. So I'm just going to let him be and see what progesses.
Why is ms less likely to be scum?
In post 61, Metal Sonic wrote:Why did you vote EspressoDan? Was that an RVS vote? My apologies, but you do not appear to be in the RVS mood.
Gut doesn't like this idk why.
In post 68, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You shouldn't assume I have town-reads on you both, because I don't. You two are the only one's who have posted since we found our first scum.
Don't defend him with meta either. That's awful.
Now, sheep me.
Interesting. Remind me again why you have such a hate on meta?
So far I haven't liked your posting at all. For little things: call out people for soft defening, but in my eyes that exactly what you are doing.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Also ms can you knock this crap off please? Thanks!No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 81, Huntress wrote:In post 61, Metal Sonic wrote:Why did you vote EspressoDan? Was that an RVS vote? My apologies, but you do not appear to be in the RVS mood.
Nope; it wasn't RVS. He was avoiding talking about the game. As are Rambler and AssMuffin who must have picked up their role PMs otherwise they would have been replaced along with James May.
Hm. Hm.
Crap. I forgot whether or not town or scum you go after lurkers. I really don't remember you doing it in our hydras lately.
;;No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Tbh I when I first read the ms comment I really thought he was tryin to gain a read on huntress and not soft defending NpAUNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Okay. I'm not even gonna bother trying to argue that. I mean it's so wrong , but that's okay.
You soft defended Zeb in my mind.
How can I be unbelievably bad at reading you when a) I haven't really given you a read on you so far. I'm just engaging you. B) how you tunneled me and I reacted by tunneling you the majority of the game in your first game .No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Yes, but it's not always going to stay like that. It's not random for me anymore, but that's my view. I feel like there's enough non fluff content to get out of RVS stage.
@BBT: when you questioned ms' vote on ZebNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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MmkNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 106, EspressoDan wrote:@Mala 89 Its arguable that nyanyanya isn't an active player also. He hasn't posted anything of substance either.
Well, I kinda saw this name pop up earlier today so I noticed he hasn't posted yet here. When I talking about the replaced/active player I meant me replacing James May. So you shouldn't be sad that he was replaced as now you have someone you can read etc.
I'm giving a little more time and then I'll probably start placing a vote. (Tbf I was hoping for more players to pop in so i'm waiting before I go into work now. ._.)No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Why is this game so quiet?!?
VOTE: nyayyaaaNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Ms knock it off please. I know you find it funny but it's really notNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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I'm not yet sure I'm okay with calling either of shin or Huntress town as of yet~No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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As much as I'm not seeing town Huntress I'm not seeing scum her either. So not ready for a vote there.
There's others that deserve better votes. One is the nyayayaa slot as he's avoiding this game.
I'm not really feeling GM-town either.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Also those who were in the game from the start. Were there Day 1 start PMs sent out?No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Hi!No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 149, Nashville Dreams wrote:I just wanted to know if Nyayaya is avoiding the game because there wasn't a daystart PM or if it's possible it's due to an alignment thing.
@BC: Can you prod Nyayayaya?
How.. the fuck... did i do that..
It was mafia black, i swear
<:No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 158, Shinobi wrote:I think it's weird that MS is reading me as town so early.
Especially considering how hard I wound up burning him in the last game I was in.
Yeah ms has been pinging for a while.
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@Josh:
Will you stop trying to PL? Or even try to push a lynch before half the game has posted content or even before I get to sort out Huntress/gm.
I want to get a solid read on the two players I have played with the most. Then go down the list.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 239, Zebulin wrote:Malakittens: A good amount of content, but not all of it actually useful. Also a good amount of prod dodges. 18 is okay, but if by my count only 6 are really game-based, it's not a good thing.
I'm not entirely sure why you are saying my posts are 'prod dodges'. I actually have not once gone in prod range because I have been posting daily. So which of my posts are considered 'prod dodging' to you?
All of my posts have been game based one way or another besides maybe one which was me saying "hi to Josh".
So yeah I take offense to this whole read on me in general.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 146, Josh_B wrote:In post 143, Huntress wrote:Hi Josh!
In post 137, Josh_B wrote:
On the other hand, I'm really not feeling Town Huntress.
Why would that be?
Lot's of probing questions, not a lot of personal POV.
Fyi;
that's actually a characteristic of town-Huntress, but I shouldn't be quick to townread her yet because she knows what to dodge when playing with me and something she posted makes me lack confidence that we have yet to have a town-huntress.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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So yay I'm scummy enough not to get NK'd! considering everyone is soft scum reading me one way or another.
Can someone explain how I'm actively lurking when my posts are pretty much equal in time stamps since I'm working everyday <.<No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Huntress
can you explain your Zeb vote for me?!
I'm really trying to gather reads on the players I most actively know how to read, then the players who I have played with more and then go down the line with that.
So right now I'm trying to sort Huntress -> gm -> ms ~~ bbt -> uct -> Josh.
the rest of you are pretty new to me expect for peabody, Shin & Heph. I probably have played one game with you so I'm not really 'sure' how you would play besides the game we had recently completed.
I do have to say I'm gathering reads as content goes on even though I'm not engaging much with the current content.
As time goes on my reads will get a lot clearer though, but right now I'm keeping most of them close to my chest.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 368, Metal Sonic wrote:Zebulon is very new; since this is an open game I'm not down for lynching that dude
I saw newb townNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 381, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Also Mala, can you stop fucking dodging my question to you in 183. This is the 3rd time I'm having to ask you.
Mixture of gut and meta really. GM and I have experience in playing together. I used to have a tell that I figured out on her while we were scum partners a long time ago, but since then that tell I think has been outted or at least less noticeable to spot in her scum play. I normally read town-GM by gut depending on how she reacts in certain situations, but I'm not really getting a town read nor a scum read. It's just that simple.
You and I also have experience together so I know that this answer won't sit well with you. Which is a reason why I dodged it because whichever way I answer with you is a double-edged sword.
(Also I will say that my post today waskindaa prod dodge as I was at a reunion earlier and I close on Sunday for work).No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 383, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Here you go;
In post 183, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
And what have you done to develop this read? Other than telling MS to stop doing the things you're finding scummy.
Now, try again.
I really don't know know to read sonic. Majority of games sonic and I; I have been scum besides one where I I gored him throughout the game.
Also I wasn't telling him omg stop being scummy I was telling him to knock off things that were irritating. There's a diffNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Also I don't know why I thought you asked me about GMNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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sigh.
Because of me only playing scum games with him I don't know how to interact with him. I don't. I couldn't read him in xmen and I was town. I just don't know how to go about it with sonic. Yes it's dumb, but after playing a certain alignment so long and finally starting to play with him as a diff role I just don't what to do.
What I have noticed is he tends to have a similar playsytle as myself.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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He was annoying me with all the mason and VT bullshit. I think I made myself clear on that one.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 396, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Annoying you makes him scum?
For him it might. When I was scum partners with him he walked the thin line of my patience. I ended up blowing up his hydra partner in thread with my engaging which then got me frustrated. So yes him being annoying could potentially be a scum tell for him. I don't know for sure.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Nope, but good try!
Well you were pretty much going to vote me anyways because you know none of my answers to your questions would be satisfactory to you because you disagree with what tools I hunt with so~No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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I didn't dodge the question though. I ANSWERED IT. I don't know how to hunt him because of my default mindset in playing with him as me being scum against him all the time. I already answered it. You thought it was dodge because you don't understand it or you disagree with it.
Meta comes into this from experience. When I played with him as a SK he didn't annoy me and he was town and that was right before Xmen. Xmen I can't remember if he annoyed me. I need to go look back, but I remember him pissing me off in Xeno. We were both scum.
So yes meta.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 395, Malakittens wrote:He was annoying me with all the mason and VT bullshit. I think I made myself clear on that one.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Also I'm watching his interactions with GM very closely, even if I don't interact with him I can probably get a read off how he interacts with others. He's not playing to the same style as he was in Knight. I'm trying to spot the meta similarities differences from past games.
Also if I wanted to jump on a wagon without being oppurnitistic I could, but I'm not seeing anyone super scummy as of yet~No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Bbt why the hell are you doing the same attack you did in the newbie game. This isn't your first game with me. I rely on gut and meta for Day 1. This is the same bullshit attack you gave me on the newbie game and you were scum there. So either you are right now playing stupid scum game or you are playing a stupid town game. I can't tell which because it's not like it's just me and you in this game that played that, but also that Shin is here too.
I need to mull that over.
@Script:
I haven't played with NPAU so no read there yet. Peabody I remember him from a recent completed game. His play feels a bit different , but I want to give that time. It was mainly because he was just tunneling on one person that game whereas here he isn't doing exactly that.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 410, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:You do that. Use your great scum-hunting tool that is meta to determine my alignment. I look forward to this.
I was waiting for you to pull out the 'But I'm really bad at D1 card'. Good job.
Why the hell are you being so douchey-baggy. It's like its your mission to go ahead and discredit anything I said. I am likely not going to use meta to sort you, but I'm just saying that you are going into the same mindset that you did in the newbie, flat out. It still doesn't make sense from either alignment for you to do this. I'm trying to follow what you are thinking in your head and it's just not working.
P.S. I never said that. I'm just saying that I rely on gut for Day 1. I don't see how I said I'm really bad at Day 1 by saying I'm relying on gut/past meta-experience for reads. You are just trying to twist something to your adv and I don't like it.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 417, Scripten wrote:In post 416, Peabody wrote:
Is this typical of BBT to fake convictions? To you who know him, my case may be weak if this is something typical of him. If on just a general player, I think faking a conviction is a scum-tell. I'm at the point where I don't know whether to continue pushing this or to focus attention elsewhere. He's been seeming more towny lately. I know an aggressive stance early game is something I've done as scum at least once. So from personal experience, I'm inclined to believe his early play is scum generated. His later play is much better.
BBT takes this stance whether or not he's scum. I'm pretty sure he does it to try and intentionally affect his meta, but it may just be a playstyle choice. Either way, it is unfortunately a rather confusing playstyle. I've not seen him policy/mislynched for it in any game I've played so far, though.
This^No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 424, Metal Sonic wrote:In post 397, Malakittens wrote:In post 396, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Annoying you makes him scum?
For him it might. When I was scum partners with him he walked the thin line of my patience. I ended up blowing up his hydra partner in thread with my engaging which then got me frustrated. So yes him being annoying could potentially be a scum tell for him. I don't know for sure.
When was this?
Xeno. When you were in a hydra with Varsoon.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 430, Metal Sonic wrote:Wow that was a looong time ago.
Recent examples are more of xmen and marvel avengers
Yeah, but I'm saying scum you and that's the only game we ever shared an alignment, give or take. Also I forgot about marvel entirely and you were town there and so was I, but I replaced in and I think you were basically conf-town by then.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 373, Huntress wrote:It's mainly explained in 282. Add to that his reads list, together with the fact that he can't back up some of his comments, means that Zeb may well be scum. I'm also looking at BBT and NPAU but I don't think they are scum together.
Why can't this just be like a newer player who just can't express themselves properly?
I'm just liking him for town gut wise. It's the little things on how he's posting that gives me new-town vibes rather than scum vibes.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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The one thing solid I can say about GM that I do not like is her over-defensiveness with Sonic. Although our last completed game together she wasn't so defensive, but then I just checked a completed scum game too and she wasn't there either. Other than that it's really the only thing about GM I am not liking as of right now, but my ability to be able to read her properly has gone into a shithole because we haven't played together in so long ;;No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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In post 426, Scripten wrote:In post 425, Metal Sonic wrote:
It looks like a bad demon thing. Ew
What's wrong with that? I happen to rather like my Hell Knight avatar.
To be fair the only problem that I dislike about Sonic asking people about avatars and changing them is that I feel like he's reading too much into the avatar. I think he's trying to say that he might find your avatar scary which is giving him scum vibes. I might be reading too much into this.
Also I think the whole argument of you have a scary avatar so you are scum is stupid, imo.
Avatar mid-game changes are kinda cruel plus it also causes confusion.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 449, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 427, Malakittens wrote:
Why the hell are you being so douchey-baggy. It's like its your mission to go ahead and discredit anything I said. I am likely not going to use meta to sort you, but I'm just saying that you are going into the same mindset that you did in the newbie, flat out. It still doesn't make sense from either alignment for you to do this. I'm trying to follow what you are thinking in your head and it's just not working.
P.S. I never said that. I'm just saying that I rely on gut for Day 1. I don't see how I said I'm really bad at Day 1 by saying I'm relying on gut/past meta-experience for reads. You are just trying to twist something to your adv and I don't like it.
Holy shit, how are you going to determine my alignment if not with meta?
I told you what I was thinking.
I questioned you. I was seriously dissatisfied with your answers. I voted you.
What part don't you follow?
Also, I hate it when one of my other scum-reads joins my wagon.
Patience my grasshopper~
Yes and I told you how I was feeling and you felt the need to discredit all of those things because you don't see it my way. Not to mention when one person says that he doesn't see it your way you felt the need to attack him too.
Yeah I always hate that too. (OMG we have something in common )
Looking at ms post everyone is quoting I think I see what you guys are seeing as scummy there.
I really wish Hephaestus would contribute more so I can get a firmer read on him. That goes for uct too since I have a lot of experience and have a greater shot at reading him than Hephaestus.
There's one thing that bugs me about Hephaestus, but makes me wonder if he was prodded or beetle juiced into the thread.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Anything is better then being silent. In fact silence makes you look guiltierNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 460, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 456, Malakittens wrote:
Yes and I told you how I was feeling and you felt the need to discredit all of those things because you don't see it my way. Not to mention when one person says that he doesn't see it your way you felt the need to attack him too.
Yeah I always hate that too. (OMG we have something in common )
Looking at ms post everyone is quoting I think I see what you guys are seeing as scummy there.
It has nothing to do with you not seeing it my way. Your answers were simply not good enough.
@Bold - You're doing it again! Saying MS is scummy, giving yourself an opportunity to jump on his wagon without actually doing anything/contributing any original thoughts.
What do people mean when they keep saying 'beetle juiced'?
I don't think my answers would have never been good enough for you.
Lolnope.
In post 462, Josh_B wrote:oh, I get it now too.
If I say your name three time in the thread, you appear.
Why is it beetlejuice, and not candyman, or bloodymary?
It should be called "Comes when called".
In post 466, Shinobi wrote:Npau, why is it that you think it's bad that Mala doesn't have a serious vote down but you've completely ignored the fact that I haven't either?
Because I'm a hell of a lot easier to lynch than you are at this point in time.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 470, Shinobi wrote:In post 468, Malakittens wrote:Because I'm a hell of a lot easier to lynch than you are at this point in time.
A recurring theme which I find hilarious.
I wish I find it hilarious, but I dont. Although what I do find funny is that the chances of mislynching me on Day 1 is really low, very low and this usually just goes closer to lylo. So I'm always the topic of a lynch discussion, but it just doesn't happen.
@Uct:
Can you explain that town read on me please because it does not make sense.
Btw I saw BBT's last post to me, but im currently running into work and can not comment on itNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 470, Shinobi wrote:In post 468, Malakittens wrote:Because I'm a hell of a lot easier to lynch than you are at this point in time.
A recurring theme which I find hilarious.
I wish I find it hilarious, but I dont. Although what I do find funny is that the chances of mislynching me on Day 1 is really low, very low and this usually just goes closer to lylo. So I'm always the topic of a lynch discussion, but it just doesn't happen.
@Uct:
Can you explain that town read on me please because it does not make sense.
Btw I saw BBT's last post to me, but im currently running into work and can not comment on itNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 489, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 432, Malakittens wrote:
Also I forgot about marvel entirely and you were town there and so was I, but I replaced in and I think you were basically conf-town by then.
You couldn't use his town play from that game to help you determine his alignment in this game?
expect for the part where you ignored where I AM trying to use his play from another game that completed less than a month before that and before xmen. I already stated that his play was different from Knight, in which he was town there.
fucking hell read my posts before you start accusing me of not trying to sort himNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 485, davesaz wrote:In post 480, hephaestus wrote:you made a funny
What's funny (strange) is that the only thing you seem to post is funnies and comments on funnies. If you're going to replace in, at least you could play the actual game you replace into. You could be indifferent about a VT role, or you could be scum feigning indifference to a VT role. Keep it up and we might need to lynch you, if only to rule out the 2nd possibility.
*ping*
I really hate this post.
It feels like you are fishing a reaction on this one.
Like why can't he be a mason with less interest in the game. Why assume he's a VT?No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 474, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
This is the first time you scum-read MS, despite showing no previous inclination of this read even though he had apparently been 'pinging for a while', and you have yet to provide a valid explanation for this post to date.
In post 456, Malakittens wrote:
Looking at ms post everyone is quoting I think I see what you guys are seeing as scummy there.
Here is the second time. So, you still think MS is scummy and you've still doneabout it.absolutely nothing
As I said, you're just lining yourself up to be able to jump on his wagon, should it take off. You have provided no original thoughts/content on MS despite scum-reading him from 160 (even earlier with relation to your comment). You just make generic comments and sheep other people's thoughts.
No, like I already said if I wanted to jump on his wagon I already could have, but I'm not because I'm not sold on the fact he's scum. Yes, he's playing similar to his scum meta, but also his playstyle reminds me of my own. Which I know being a chronic softclaimer is perceived as scummy.
Also, I'm not sheeping other people's thoughts.
if I wanted to I could throw back the comment that you made at me when I replaced into the game was your pre-emptive "OMG MALA CANT READ ME WELL CARD", BUT I haven't. The reason why it was so pre-emptive is because we had one completed game together and I read you on the spot correct, so where's this I can't read you well card, coming from eh? So that pre-emptive dismissal you were giving me there in the start was totally incorrect.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 404, Malakittens wrote:Also I'm watching his interactions with GM very closely, even if I don't interact with him I can probably get a read off how he interacts with others. He's not playing to the same style as he was in Knight. I'm trying to spot the meta similarities differences from past games.
Also if I wanted to jump on a wagon without being oppurnitistic I could, but I'm not seeing anyone super scummy as of yet~
In post 401, Malakittens wrote:I didn't dodge the question though. I ANSWERED IT. I don't know how to hunt him because of my default mindset in playing with him as me being scum against him all the time. I already answered it. You thought it was dodge because you don't understand it or you disagree with it.
Meta comes into this from experience. When I played with him as a SK he didn't annoy me and he was town and that was right before Xmen. Xmen I can't remember if he annoyed me. I need to go look back, but I remember him pissing me off in Xeno. We were both scum.
So yes meta.
The reason why you missed it because they were the answers that you deemed 'unsatisfactory'.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Ps, Knight I was an SK with Penguin_Alien as a hydra.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=44578
In case anyone is wondering also for clarification~No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 497, Scripten wrote:Mala: (493) Wait a sec. There's no need for us to fish out masons. Why shouldn't we call out active lurking when it happens? I don't agree with that assessment.
expect for I'm not fishing out masons. I'm asking a simple question. Why does he only assume that he could only be a VT or a scum, why can't he be a mason also acting indifferently. I think it's a pretty damn question worthy of an answer though.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 501, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
.In post 495, Malakittens wrote:
No, like I already said if I wanted to jump on his wagon I already could have, but I'm not because I'm not sold on the fact he's scum. Yes, he's playing similar to his scum meta, but also his playstyle reminds me of my own. Which I know being a chronic softclaimer is perceived as scummy
Yet another wishy-washy read.
In post 495, Malakittens wrote:
Also, I'm not sheeping other people's thoughts.
Fantastic, why do you think MS is scum?
Can I have a reads-list now please.
PEdit - @Mala - Oh right, so when you were using the excuse of 'I don't know how to hunt MS, you were in fact, hunting MS?
No, not really. I just don't have a definitive answer to your question whether or not I believe Ms to be town or scum one way or another.
May I ask why you care to not take past experiences and apply them to current situations? I feel like we are going down the same rabbit hole we went down months ago, but you aren't stopping from doing it. You are probably going to go into the same tunnel like you just have an agenda to accuse my play of being crap because obv they conflict with each others.
I can't do a readslist right now. I am working and currently on my break from Shift 1 and have to go back to Shift 2. I might be home right now talking to you, but I needed to make sure I didn't burn the house down while cooking lunch, also i want to cut my apple. I'll be back in about 4 hours and try to get something solid before Chicago Fire. (yep my shows take priority over mafia)
Yeah, I was looking at past games, but not engaging him. Again if you read my posts you will see I don't know how to engage him because my default way as scum is to just ignore him half the time.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 502, uctriton00 wrote:In post 475, Malakittens wrote:Can you explain that town read on me please because it does not make sense.
Same as I said before, I think it's genuine scumhunting when you spend time trying to figure out someone's alignment using meta with them in the past. In general, I take effort put into the game to be more townie than scummy (not that it's set in stone, as goodmorning wishes to appeal to everyone), and I'm working off of that.
Does it worry you that I give you a town read? Am I possibly buddying you?
to answer you, yes, it kinda doesNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 518, Peabody wrote:
Mala's line in 456 bugs me. The line about Hephaestus in particular feels... filler.
Malakittens wrote:Anything is better then being silent. In fact silence makes you look guiltier
Hmm. This fits somewhere. Although I don't quite agree with this statement in general, this might be her guiding principle for the previous filler line. Unless you feel it wasn't posted for the sake of filler, Mala?
Neither was filler. I was giving my thoughts on him and his current replace-in.
Also yes I do feel like silence makes a person look guiltier. So I rather you post random thoughts you deem as shit rather than nothing at all because even if you post things thatyoudeem as shit others might not think so and it gives me a way into someone's head.
Make sense now?
In post 506, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:In post 504, Malakittens wrote:
No, not really. I just don't have a definitive answer to your question whether or not I believe Ms to be town or scum one way or another.
May I ask why you care to not take past experiences and apply them to current situations? I feel like we are going down the same rabbit hole we went down months ago, but you aren't stopping from doing it. You are probably going to go into the same tunnel like you just have an agenda to accuse my play of being crap because obv they conflict with each others.
I can't do a readslist right now. I am working and currently on my break from Shift 1 and have to go back to Shift 2. I might be home right now talking to you, but I needed to make sure I didn't burn the house down while cooking lunch, also i want to cut my apple. I'll be back in about 4 hours and try to get something solid before Chicago Fire. (yep my shows take priority over mafia)
Yeah, I was looking at past games, but not engaging him. Again if you read my posts you will see I don't know how to engage him because my default way as scum is to just ignore him half the time.
I look forward to your reads-list.
I don't use past experiences because they're useless. You have stated on more than one occasion so far that I am playing like I played in our first game together. In that first game, I was scum. In this game, I am town. Can you see how past experiences can be not only manipulated if one chooses to do so but also fairly subjective to the person reading them.
Also, you're wrong. Although I'm not happy with your answers at all, I am starting to feel you're more likely to be town than scum. Not to mention, I am getting annoyed with lurkers/semi-active players contributing nada and making end-game as scum. There are also scummier players than you right now.
You can breathe again.
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VOTE: NPAU
i really hate that you are forcing my hand to post a reads list rather than letting me post it naturally. In fact I think me posting one will hurt me more than it will do good at this stage because it's going to show where I am at in terms of hunting people I'm not ready in revealing because of what I was exactly looking for.
You are, but I don't know you are town. So I can't take your word for it. Although you backing down feels a bit townish, idk? I mean I forced your hand the other game to back down by yelling at you in LyLo.
why am i more town than scum? I'm not satisfied with that comment.
I mean part of me thinks you might be town for backing off, but other part thinks you are scum realizing that my lynch might not happen as opportunistic as you would have liked it too and moved to someone who canNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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Go read my last postNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 499, Huntress wrote:In post 433, Malakittens wrote:
Why can't this just be like a newer player who just can't express themselves properly?
Compare Zeb's posts in this game with his ISO in Newbie 1531. He seemed a lot more confident there despite being unfamiliar with the site
why the lack of confidence be from playing outside of the newbie queue for the first time? Why does it automatically default him to being scum?No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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In post 554, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:But I don't feel like you're contributing much, so I want you to do something useful. I would find a reads-list useful.
I didn't back off you in LyLo because you yelled at me. It really made me wanna tunnel you some more but I had fake-claimed doctor so I obviously had nothing to do but vote the real doctor.
You're recent posts feel more town. Like, they're giving me town-vibes. That's how you explain your reads, right?
I could tunnel you to death as either alignment. I quite enjoy tunnelling people, their reactions can be very telling.
I am contributing. You just disagree with my contributions because they aren't up to your level of standards. I really don't want to post a reads list because I have one read that needs more time and once I post this reads list anything I had up in the air with the read will be out to people and what I'm trying to do is lost.
No, you stopped tunneling on me before you fake-claimed doc. It was one of those events leading up to it.
You are an ass sometimes you know that right? I can explain posts fully more than that when triggered because my gut usually is triggered by a post, sometimes it's not, but usually how a post comes off.
Might not be in your best interest as you already know I'm reactionary to tunnels and it often makes me want to tunnel back and I am known to have an attitude back and I'm trying to keep that in check because it hasn't been great as of late.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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VOTE: BBTNo matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
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I already said at this time no because I'm not ready to do so.
Stop being inpatient and let it come naturally.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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