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Open 530 "WSoB" (Stack the Deck): GAME OVER
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There were no reasons, it was a test.In post 15, Brian Skies wrote:But why unvote Venrob? What happened to said reasons?-
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Because one vote is really asking for that person to be lynched.In post 31, Venrob wrote:Lynching yourself is anti-town
Yet previously I voted for you with no reasoning.Venrob wrote:Selfvoting in RVS has no reason to happen
What's the difference there? I wasn't voting myself and I was voting someone else? There's no basis for any vote right now so a self-vote has as much credibility as a vote on someone else. However, you are trying to twist it, as any scum would, to make it look scummy because doing something predefined is automatically always scum.
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Manipulation of scum tells.In post 102, pieguyn wrote:Hiraki: just wondering, any reason for voting Venrob in particular?
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The individual action will do nothing, that is correct. However, the reaction to the individual action is what you should always be looking for anyway in an RVS stage of a game.Sakura Hana wrote:Credibility aside, what info is a self-vote going to give us?
Do you think he really wants to lynch himself? Then the vote is a joke. If you think it's a bad joke and that it will lead to nothing, then go ahead and vote him. That's your reasoning and not mine. The problem with that, however, is that we do not lynch for bad jokes, we lynch people we think are scum. Town and scum can make bad jokes so therefore it's useless to go about trying to find something bad/good about the individual action of self-voting.
This is good.In post 49, Alduskkel wrote:What is your opinion of the Venrob wagon?
Further indulge me on this, please.In post 53, Sakura Hana wrote:Because the reasoning for it even existing is stupid.
It was probably the least opportunistic vote in the game. Why does it matter that it was 2 votes after?In post 56, thenewearth wrote:If it was a good vote
Then it's a "good vote" so conveniently placed after 2 votes on sakura
opportunistic as fuck man
You do realize that the only way you can find a good opportunity vote is if the reason completely mimics a vote or if it can be seen that the person in question was only most, if not all, town lynches (and this is weak and can be used to town/scum advantage).
The problem is that she used that as an opinion.In post 70, Brian Skies wrote:It's not an opinion. It's the hint.
How are you getting Sakura town from that?In post 72, Viera Assassin wrote:town
No, but what were you thinking?In post 78, Brian Skies wrote:Saki'sVS' recent surge of activity is kind of shocking. Does anyone find it indicative in any way?
Pieguyn: Can you clearly display your reads on Sakura and Adduskel?
The former was a random vote. This vote was real.Pieguyn wrote:^ voted him again after unvoting him.
It's only six pages with I think the first two being a tad bit useless. If you're dillydallying now, then I can expect that you'll still be at this point next week?In post 138, JacobSavage wrote:STOP POSTING SO MUCH!
Seriously I don't have any idea whats going on.
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Action itself doesn't even matter at this point.In post 147, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Self-voting at L-1 is scummy.
No, not really. Scum wouldn't self-vote and self-voting can be OK if there's a clear.ETL wrote:Self-voting in LYLO is scummy.-
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Okay, so we don't get it apparently. So then why are you being butthurt and not just explaining it?In post 163, Brian Skies wrote:And the problem I have is that people lack the critical reading skills to see the inference.-
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Reactions. It's still RVS.In post 195, DoctorEagle wrote:Hiraki, what's the town quiz? Just because he points out the fact you have no reason isn't a town tell. I don't know, you might be joking.-
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I'm not lynching a PR-claim D1.In post 259, JacobSavage wrote:Bare in mind it doesn't have to be a CC for him to be fake claiming.
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By tomorrow night. I've been busy this weekend.In post 281, pieguyn wrote:everyone who posted a prod dodge (Brian, TNE, Hiraki, Ank), post something ASAP plz-
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This game is really hard to read. Therefore, I think I'm going to use process of elimination here.
I am not willing to lynch: Venrob, VieraAssassin, ETL, DoctorEagle, BrianSkies, and Ankamius.
That leaves: Alduskkel, JacobSavage, pieguyn, Sakura Hana, thenewearth
My next posts will basically be choosing out of that pile but I wouldn't be surprised if this is how the rest of this game goes for me.-
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Wah, my reads don't agree with yours and now I've suddenly become scummy? I think I'll have a placeholder here. I'll have everything figured out by tomorrow.In post 300, Alduskkel wrote:How the hell did VA and DE make it onto your not-willing-to-lynch list? And how did pieguy make it onto the other list?Unvote, Vote: Alduskkel-
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I would believe this if he cited my early posts and finding contradictions from earlier reads.In post 307, pieguyn wrote:he just asked you to explain your reads more.-
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Meanwhile, I already said this game was hard to read. Do you think I'm just going to come out and say "AH-HA SCUM FOUND!111!1!"In post 315, Alduskkel wrote:At least give some hard scum reads.
Lurking=Scummy. GJ[/quote]Adus wrote:Also, I didn't call you scummy for not explaining yourself. You're scummy because you don't post jack.
Yet. It's been a few days now and I have time.Adus wrote:But 4 of your 5 most recent posts are promising to do stuff later, and I don't see that stuff yet.
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Thanks for confirming my vote and dodging the questions.In post 318, Alduskkel wrote:ITT Hiraki gives excuses for not scumhunting.
I'll look at the rest of the group later. When I'm not busy (because apparently that seriously needed to be said too)-
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TNE, I know I'm the last person who should be saying this, but can you post a bit more than nothing?
Can you explain this?In post 277, Alduskkel wrote:Who the fuck pops in only to give meta, defend himself, and talk about his own claimed role?
Can you go into more detail?Ankamius wrote:Hell, I just don't get a very town feel from his play at all this game.
Are you going to vote Sakura, and why?Brian wrote:I'm not sold on you yet.
Explain. None of the quotes in this post are mine and I don't get the ETL leaning scum.DrEagle wrote:Hiraki - leaning town
EspeciallyTheLies - leaning scum
I want a Sakura case.
I'd really rather an Aduskel or TNE lynch than a Sakura lynch, in fact.
Vote: TNE-
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In post 404, thenewearth wrote:DoctorEagle wrote:
Why did you lynch pie yesterday? I had him as town.
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>this person flipped town so I must have good reads :):)In post 445, thenewearth wrote:I... uhm... like... ALWAYS said pieguy was town.
DoctorEagle is leaning scum. I never called you town, first off and I don't like your responses now. TNE should die first though.-
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DE for overall null/leaning town gameplay. VA just because I think there was more than enough information to get rid of someone other than a lurker (btw. I'm calling bullshit on the infection, otherwise VA has had a load of infections in the last few months)In post 458, Brian Skies wrote:Can you explain these slots' positioning on this list up to this point? The ones that stick out the most are VA and Pieguyn. Is there any particular reason why they were in their respective spots?
Ald was for already stated reasons, JacobSavage was because I wasn't sure abut him at all. Pieguyn was in as an absolute compromise. I thought he was town but I'd rather have a mislynch than a no lynch.-
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You should've been more vocal. I'm wrong, I thought there were 13 people in this game. With 12 people, there's a decent chance of 3 scum. The odds still work out well if there are 2 scum. We can right this wrong though if we NL though. I don't like your reasoning for NLing but that's you and not me.In post 473, Brian Skies wrote:Really? Why? In that situation, I'd rather have a no lynch, and I expressed it as such.
Unvote, Vote: NL
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Whooptedoo I made a mistake on one part of the setup and now realize that my theorizing is not needed.In post 481, Alduskkel wrote:Am I really supposed to believe you a) don't know how many scum are in this OPEN setup
Unvote, Vote: Adusskel
Considering that under those circumstances we'd need to use it now unless you wanted to NL on N3.Alduskkel wrote: and b) have determined that NOW is the opportune time for a no lynch?
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Desperate times, desperate measures.In post 515, Ankamius wrote:Alduskkel: Why did you have to meta? Seriously, that came so far out of left field.-
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Are you asking this because you know what you're going to hear?In post 542, Brian Skies wrote:Tell me about Hiraki, ns. The slot feels hollow to me. And how familiar are you with all the players in this game?
You are spared one night, notscience.In post 543, Ankamius wrote:This explanation only makes it look worse, since I see town coming to this conclusion and clearing the air while initially seeing the case rather than after everything happens. At the very least, the thought process would be more obvious instead of just "OH WAIT ALSO META".
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NS and I are not the best of friends and I have a good hunch that you are aware of this.In post 550, Brian Skies wrote:
I don't have a clue what ns is going to say. And I do value other people's opinions. Are you worried?In post 546, Hiraki wrote:Are you asking this because you know what you're going to hear?-
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I voted him because lynching was better than no lynching.
If I was scum, I'd just lurk more during that time and make up some bullshit on why I didn't do anything and then complain about other people not doing anything while acknowledging that I did not do anything myself.
You can check my scumplay, I literally do this all the time.-
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In post 648, Brian Skies wrote:Also, I 100% guarantee IP is the RB and I want to strangle him right now for denying me my report.Vote: Brian Skies-
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Yes, I'm sorry. I'm infallible. Are you making a mistake scummy? Really now? Too bad this isn't the worst part.In post 742, DoctorEagle wrote:Sure, lets go kill the conf town roleblocker. Logic.
This is lining up lynches to the textbook definition.DoctorEagle wrote:If we aren't lynching Ank for the horrendous "scum did a no kill gambit" statement today, then we must do it tomorrow.
Unvote: DoctorEagle
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Yesterday. It faltered quickly though.
But then you voted NS in the next post after his response.In post 862, Alduskkel wrote:The sad fact is is that DE's responses are pretty town at this point. Is there no support for an NS lynch?
You asked us a question without the intention of receiving an answer. That's a clear sign of grasping at straws.
You are scum. I have no doubts about this now.
If needed, i.e. if you guys don't follow me within around 3 hours, I will go further.-
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