Open 530 "WSoB" (Stack the Deck): GAME OVER

[thenewearth]

Same answer

[Alduskkel]

Got anything else to say?

[pieguyn]

So what information did you get from Venmar's wagon?

at the least, my ideas on you and Alduskkel. there's probably more but I'll look at it more later = =
in fact, when I originally voted you, I hadn't even read that part of the thread. That's the beauty of it ~~

also srsly, Venmar? wow that's way off 0.0

Well, you can commit without explaining, but it's very difficult/impossible to explain without committing.

committing without explaining is completely useless cause you might as well just not commit in that case. then Sakura didn't explain why she thought the wagon was "interesting", so she probably wasn't committed.

I don't really know what you mean in the second part of your post, but I don't think Sakura has explained himself sufficiently.

just wondering why you said an adequate explanation is required, but when I mention "explaining" you said that's not the right idea? > <

What's your opinion of the wagon, anyway?

for me it seems like just another RVS wagon. Nothing seems really weird about it. Some posts seem like they could have a reason though

VOTE: ankamius

VOTE: Venrob

^ this due to quote, mb the way he was voting triggered something. I can't see what it might be though 0.0

Unvote, Vote: Venrob

This is good.

^ voted him again after unvoting him.

@VA, Brian, Hiraki: just wondering, any reason for voting Venrob in particular?

[Ankamius]

Leaning town on Sakura so far.

[Alduskkel]

@pieguyn: Disagree. If I can get someone to definitively say "this guy is town" or "this guy is scum" then even if they don't explain it they're still committed, which leaves less room for them to opportunistically get on wagons.

Explanations are good, though, just not always 100% needed.

Didn't notice that stuff with VA and Hiraki. Very curious indeed, I look forward to their responses.

[thenewearth]

I've never seen pieguy this town...

[Sakura Hana]

Yeah why did I sai Venmar instead of Venrob, I really need to sleep xD

Good Night

[pieguyn]

@pieguyn: Disagree. If I can get someone to definitively say "this guy is town" or "this guy is scum" then even if they don't explain it they're still committed, which leaves less room for them to opportunistically get on wagons.

Explanations are good, though, just not always 100% needed.

o I was thinking just committing to something is an "explanation". I can see how that might be not quite the same thing though 0.0

just wondering, if commitment != explanation then, in your other post, how come you said Sakura didn't "explain herself sufficiently"?

I've never seen pieguy this town...

0.0

[Alduskkel]

It's kind of a stupid semantics issue. Basically, Sakura said the wagon was "interesting." I used the term "explanation" because I wanted an explanation of what she meant by "interesting." Or, in other words, I wanted her to commit to a stance on the wagon.

[pieguyn]

It's kind of a stupid semantics issue. Basically, Sakura said the wagon was "interesting." I used the term "explanation" because I wanted an explanation of what she meant by "interesting." Or, in other words, I wanted her to commit to a stance on the wagon.

yeah it really is LOL
I'm satisfied with this for now =w= seems it's pretty much what I was expecting. but better to ask to make sure without assuming things I say ~~

good night, I'll post more when I wake up www

[JacobSavage]

Hey I vote myself sometimes on RVS

js

notscience self votes in RVS all the time

js

Someone was busy...

Adesk, why Venrob vote?

[yabbaguy]

Attention all players: Anyone caught rigging our decks will be forcibly ejected from the premises. You don't want to know how we do that...

...carry on!

Vote Count 1.1

12 alive, 7 to lynch.

Alduskkel (3): JacobSavage, thenewearth, Sakura Hana,
Venrob (3): Brian Skies, Hiraki, Ankamius,
Sakura Hana (2): Alduskkel, pieguyn,
Ankamius (1): Venrob,
thenewearth (1): cristovo017,

Not Voting: DoctorEagle, Viera Assassin,

Deadline: September 28, 3 PM EDT (GMT-4) ((expired on 2013-09-28 15:00:00))
Please notify me in-thread if a vote counting mistake was made.

Urgent announcements appear in red, like this. Nothing to report meanwhile, carry on.

[Brian Skies]

@VA, Brian, Hiraki: just wondering, any reason for voting Venrob in particular?

I was already townreading Ankamius at that point, so I needed to move my vote. Venrob's vote looked opportunistic to me (I had already voted Ankamius so Venrob's vote looked opportunistic in the sense that either he was just jumping on the bandwagon or trying to get a similar response from post #20). I left the vote on him because I didn't like the responses in posts #24, 31, 36, or 37.

[Venrob]

It single-handedly brought us out of RVS.

SCUSE ME, not true. It got us out of RVS, but not single-handedly. I helped.

[Ankamius]

It single-handedly brought us out of RVS.

SCUSE ME, not true. It got us out of RVS, but not single-handedly. I helped.

Semantics. It directly caused the shitstorm that signaled the end of RVS.

[DoctorEagle]

Why did I not get an email about my pm when day started...

Anyways, I'll read through this mess and consult DP to let him know that we started.

[Hiraki]

Hiraki: just wondering, any reason for voting Venrob in particular?

Manipulation of scum tells.

I'll post more later.

[Alduskkel]

Adesk, why Venrob vote?

I'm guessing you're talking to me, even though "Adesk" is so far from my actual username as to be borderline unrecognizable.

I voted Venrob because he had votes on him. Bandwagons are good for discussion.

[Venrob]

alduskkel is his name, adesk is a desk, or something used at schools for students to sit at/work at, the 2 are in no way similar.
Yes i am reading, though I shouldn't be online right now; last time I was posting and such when I'm as tired as I am now my posts got so bad i was mafiabanned for a month from all new games, leaving me in only 1 game for the entire month. That was bad. So probably not posting again; too tired to analyze/make big nice posts right now, will post more in about 18-ish hours (when school is over tomorrow)

[Brian Skies]

It single-handedly brought us out of RVS.

SCUSE ME, not true. It got us out of RVS, but not single-handedly.

I helped.

In the sense of what? Bandwagoning a self-vote because you thought you could get it lynched? Because you thought Ankamius was scum? Explain to me how you got us out of RVS. Because right now, it only seems like you're looking for towncred after getting pushed up against the wall.

[Venrob]

Well, I helped by voting a selfvoter hoping to get us out of RVS with a semi-serious sounding vote.

[Sakura Hana]

So we got 2 people going "Hey guys! look how pro-town i am by taking us out of RVS!"

Yeah no

Unvote
Vote: Ankamius

At least Venrob has a reason to be against the self-vote.

[yabbaguy]

cristovo017 requests replacement. Searching...

[yabbaguy]

...and found. Welcome EspeciallyTheLies!

[EspeciallyTheLies]

HI <3 Setup looks awesome (haven't read a word of the thread yet) I will read as soon as I get home and post thoughts.