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I meant that his posts have so far not been productive for the town, not that he is town and making bad posts.In post 69, CherryDrPepper wrote:Link did not post properly
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4976509
Flech's "worst town posts so far" when describing Saki bothers me. You think he's town, thn you vote?
Glass has voted twice for people recently voted on, bandwagon style.
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How is Glass not voting opportunistically when both of his votes were onto a person already under suspicion and voted upon? Varsoon seems to be giving a bit too much credit to Glass for some reason. I see Glass and Varsoon aligned at this point.In post 87, Varsoon wrote:A small wagon's still a wagon. Explain your vote.
@Flench: The reasoning behind his votes and how cynical his voting methods are (based on his own logic rather than other's//doesn't vote opportunistically) come off as town. Clearly, this doesn't make the slot absolutely town, but it's a nod in that direction.
@Dyslexicon: Your points are the reason why I should probably have my vote on Titus. Still, I'd much rather pressure out JMO for this shit. I don't see why no one else thinks it's important. Dude just left a vote and it would've coasted easily.
I would like to hear Glass's reaction to this.
Varsoon is also quite aggressive to JMO, I disagree with the accusation of bandwagon on that count.
Varsoon still not having cast a vote is the last item of suspicion.
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It was my favorite post so far.
I think Varsoon and Glass look a bit scummy based on their agreement on many things. I might vote for Glass at this point but I am waiting for Saki to return, he will not escape my vote by disappearing.-
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I don't understand this.In post 140, jmo16mla wrote: Flench, who's scum? you've been prancing around and not voting.
I mentioned who I thought was scummy in post 118.
I voted for Saki a long time ago and he has since disappeared. I don't think it's a good policy to remove my vote on someone who goes silent.
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Do I really have to go back through the post history for you? Because it is pretty annoying.In post 76, Flench wrote:
I meant that his posts have so far not been productive for the town, not that he is town and making bad posts.In post 69, CherryDrPepper wrote:Link did not post properly
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 0#p4976509
Flech's "worst town posts so far" when describing Saki bothers me. You think he's town, thn you vote?
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I also noticed that Varsoon guess for the town points. For someone talking about slips Titus...In post 183, Dyslexicon wrote:
I tend to agree with this. You are wrong about bolded though, Varsoon took a guess, or kind of, #38In post 149, Titus wrote:The more I see. The more convinced I am Saki is indeed a mislynch. In post 35, Saki says "town points to whoever guesses my avatar". That's a pretty good way to trap newbie scum, because they will indeed guess at it.No one fell for it, but it was an excellent way to spark discussion. Saki also got voted up very quickly after Paschendale voted Saki. Flench's vote before Paschendale was a clear OMGUS. CherryDr.Pepper's next post was a sheeping post for the exact same reason as Paschendale's. I'm not sure if that's Sakuna's play to be a sheep, but Dr. Pepper wouldn't sheep like that. The attention on Saki is easy because s/he is afk.
What don't you understand about his posts?In post 170, CherryDrPepper wrote:
*raises hand*In post 156, Flench wrote:If there is another person besides jmo and titus who is confused by my posting I will take the time to explain it.
I still think it is clear.
It's nice having someone you don't need to doubt the intentions of.
I don't particularly agree with your top scum reads though. I can't read an alignment from Saki's posts, but I don't think scum would be that obvious. Also I'm uneasy with how he's gotten so much suspicion for what I feel could just as well be trolling/reaction testing. He's capital letters "lynch the hydras" I just can't take seriously. I find it annoying he's gonna be gone for a while though.
Glass I think comes of a bit defensive, but from previous experience I've seen more of these head to head like Glass and jmo that just suddenly appear be town vs town, especially D1.
I do find Cherry and Varsoon suspicious, and to a somewhat lesser degree TunnelV, that's more of a gut thing.
Varsoon I feel is too occupied with appearing town and seen as credible for questioning.
Cherry I feel is sitting back just to throw in some suggestive points of suspicion about others, like #108 and #170.
Any thoughts so far, other than your vote on Saki?
VOTE: Cherry
Since confirmed town said he understood my posts (a few posts up) and Dislexicon seemed to, I will not wasted my time explaining for the third time.
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OK I just spent forty minutes writing an extremely disjointed post that tries to explain whatever it is jmo wants to know.
It is very long and full of quotes that are probably messed up.
It probably won't help him understand at all but will I am sure will be more evidence for jmo to go after in this really annoying form of pressure that I see no end to.
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1. At this point he is the only town in the game that I know of, if you jmo and cherry are scum and are intentionally leading the convo this way then I would like a town to give his thoughts. I thought my reasoning was sound in my previous posts, why should that stop him or you? Everything in this long post has already been said, if you go back and read you should be able to understand everything.In post 201, Titus wrote: Flench, Pasch isn't the only town in the game. You should post your thoughts so all of us can see them. Also, why do you suppose that your post will provide more evidence for jmo to go after? If your reasoning is sound, then it shouldn't provide any additional evidence at all.
Also, you're reacting to pressure "that you see no end to". Why wouldn't the pressure end of the questions are answered appropropriately?
This seems like a scum motivated post. I don't want to hunt unless town makes me hunt and this pressure is unbearable.
2. I don't see jmo ever saying that I answered his questions appropriately.
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Yes the 118 reference was meant to be 116, this was pointed out by you and earlier and I thought it was pretty obvious. 116 had my scum suspects.In post 204, Titus wrote:In post 141, Flench wrote:
I don't understand this.In post 140, jmo16mla wrote: Flench, who's scum? you've been prancing around and not voting.
I mentioned who I thought was scummy in post 118.
I voted for Saki a long time ago and he has since disappeared. I don't think it's a good policy to remove my vote on someone who goes silent.
I have other leads and will make them known when I get more information.
Oriole, this post as well should be explained. Post 118 doesn't give a clear indication of who he thinks scum is. I'd guess he meant 116 but he's being a stubborn git and not confirming anything. That's what we've meant all along, just for Flench to be clear as to who he FoSes and the vote when he thinks someone is scum.
Instead, we get posts like 49 and 199 which both seem to be clear scummy posts to me.
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I can't find his question to me, point it out to me if I missed it. I am really tired atm so very possible.In post 217, Paschendale wrote:Saki's 210 lists 5 suspects. And no actual reasons for any of them. One question each for Titus, Varsoon, and Flench, but no reason why whatever he's asking them about shows their alignments. And nothing for me or Cherry.
Also... apologizing to me? Apologize to me if my actions scream town and you stupidly accuse me. Not if my actions are lazy because I don't have to prove my sincerity because I'm confirmed.-
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Titus if that is all you wanted explained then I was horribly misunderstanding you and jmo, I could have cleared that up easily, and my lengthy post barely even mentions it.In post 222, Titus wrote:Why didn't you just say that Flench? Making us jump through hoops to get opinions isn't helpful.
Who are your scum suspects now? Do you have any questions for us that would help you determine scum? Any players (besides the child) that you see as auto town?
I don't think you missed anything from Paschendale.
Too tired to link evidence atm but my current mafia suspects are (in no order):
Varsoon - For putting so much out there. Also don't know if his vote for Tunnel was an omgus because tunnel kinda made fun of the way he was being so friendly with everyone, and said it was suspicious. Also he didn't vote for a long time, I wonder if our early votes were part of his mafia?
Saki- Scum-hunting not great, goes afk but then comes back from afk when he realizes the pressure is not leaving him while he is gone, seems sketchy. Still leaving vote there for now.
JMO- His posts are bad and he should feel bad.
[quote="In post 106jmo wrote: Kinda thought it was obvious the reason I voted for you in the last post, I see Titus as newb town. Your vote on him is because he is an easy lynch target at this point in the game.Sigh, it's like trying to pull teeth here.Why do you think that my reason for voting him is because he is an easy lynch target, as opposed to my stated reason?[/quote]
Glass gets it.
Also Titus:
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I generally take everything a player does seriously. Generally, players who take things seriously are actually most likely to be the town players rather than scum.Scum will dismiss gambits and other early forms of scum hunting as jokes quite frequentlyIMO.[/quote]
Why would a mafia dismiss gambits and scum hunting as a joke? Wouldn't he want to cast suspicion on any non-mafia person that he could?-
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In post 232, Paschendale wrote:
1. Most slips aren't really slips. They're just examples of someone phrasing something in a way that you wouldn't.In post 230, Titus wrote:My reasons for voting Flench
1) The Slip in 39
2) Post 199 - Seems pretty clearly written from a scum perspective, insulting his own opinions, saying he probably won't help etc.
3) His general behavior that Paschendale is the only town to clarify things for
4) His backtracking on clarifying who his scum suspects were when Cherry Dr. Pepper asked him to clarify.
5) A generally unhelpful demeanor towards the group and scumhunting in general (ex: prefers to talk theory rather than ask questions).
2. It sounds more frustrated than scum to me.
3. Quite true. I'm only one vote, and no one has to listen to me. Flench, post your thoughts. Don't look to me to lead you.
4. Do you mean in post 76? That's not backtracking. If you mean something else, please say which posts you're referring to.
5. Agreed, Flench's tone has been uncooperative and he should change that. But most of what he's said hasn't been wrong.
These aren't bad reasons, but I think they're wrong.
1. It wasn't a slip, if you have never heard that phrasing before then that's not my problem.
2. I am not as patient as some other players to go through and contradict these things with the evidence necessary, I have confidence the other players don't have the same views as you.
3. He seems like a competent player and is a confirmed town, why wouldn't I want his opinion on things?
4. Cherry didn't ask me anything he just "raised his hand"
5. Here's a question Titus. Why did you say that nobody tried a guess for Saki's free town points? Varsoon did. slippppppp
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This is my first game with hydras, it seems to add more confusion to the game, I don't know what to make of them yet tbh.In post 246, Titus wrote: Care to give your opinions on our hydras Flench? Is there anyone besides Paschendale who you think is town?
Strongest town reads are Oriole and Dyslexicon, they both have been making productive posts and them being town agrees with my mafia suspicions.
I do think a mafia member has been targeted/pressured in this game, I am seeing some strange voting and reasoning for it at this point. We may have hit a nerve early.-
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I started taking notes and decided to just post the notes instead of redoing everything on the computer, sorry if you don't like pictures.
These are some important voting points in the game where I noted how severe the vote was, or how much pressure was being applied, one line of a star is almost no pressure, a full star is a lot of pressure. My gut reads are also here on the right.
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This is a list of "Pairs of Fighters" (what a bad title). These are pairs of people who have been showing lots of aggression towards each other or at least in one direction. Mafia doesn't like to do this to other mafia members, so at least one in each pair is town. Some pressure I thought was weak or fake, included here are the pressures I thought were legit and dangerous for the person being pressured.
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These are four situations which I find the most likely. I am sure one of them is correct.
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Cherry please explain exactly what I disregarded or left out and I will try to explain it.
I did consider doing the situation in which Titus was mafia so why not. The mafia guesses in all the situations also use the Pairs of Fighters page to make sure a pair cannot be on my guesses, because one in a pair must be town.
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Well I have Varsoon in the mafia circle in 4 out of the 5 situations so if you think we are buddies I don't even know.In post 743, Titus wrote:Wow! Those last posts by Varsoon are epic buddying. "Thanks for being complaint" and the whole gist that some buddy has never put together a chart detailing relationships is absurd.
I think the effort by Flench is something not typical of the mafia. French would you like a link to a bbcode generator? That would make your pictures easier to understand.
VOTE: unvote
@Flench, why would CherryDrPepper hardbus Saki at the start which is what the pattern implies at first.
Saki's reactions seem town lately. Perhaps he has had an epic fail in communication and logic.
I am going to watch these two closely. I am still convinced lynching between these two is the best option.
@jmo, you never did vote Saki but there was a clear sudden shift from a Saki FoS to a Varsoon FoS.
Him being my prime mafia guess in situation 2 is also my second most likely situation sooo.
Cherry voted on Saki after Pasche and I had, a mafia would not add to the wagon on another mafia in such a way. That's the kind of thing I was looking for when I made the pairs of fighters page.
Of course I will probably not be able to do another one of these for a long time or maybe never because now the mafia will try to meta my methods.-
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So I started with the gut read on Varsoon, then going from there, I used the pairs of fighters page to make sure I could not have a pair in my mafia guesses, so I went with my next gut that could fit into my rules, jmo, that eliminated Stubbs, then I used the remaining players to find the one that would fit best and decided Titus because of the Varsoon connection others have mentioned.In post 746, Titus wrote:Scenario 3 doesn't give with your gut reads. I will look in more detail when I get back home later.
I did actually find a hole in my situations though, I don't know if the prime mafia guesses in each situation are paired with any of my mafia guesses, it should be easy to spot. I will try to update the situations later. I am out for awhile.-
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Ignore this, I did account for the pairs of the prime mafia pick in each situation, that's what the confirmed town is and the remaining players are for.In post 747, Flench wrote: I did actually find a hole in my situations though, I don't know if the prime mafia guesses in each situation are paired with any of my mafia guesses, it should be easy to spot. I will try to update the situations later. I am out for awhile.-
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If that was directed at me.In post 749, jmo16mla wrote:I don't think I FOS'd saki either..
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Two people trying to kill each other can be of the same alignment but they both cannot be mafia. So if one in a pair is mafia, the other must be town. That's the whole point of my analysis. I understand they can both be town, that is taken into consideration in my post. Each situation starts with the premise a certain person is mafia and goes from there.In post 759, Paschendale wrote:
So let's stop talking about them.In post 677, oriole wrote:I think we should be lynching outside of Varsoon and Saki today. Scum will have to kill them so they don't block a kill and get a guilty that way. If they try and play WIFOM with letting one of them hang around a couple nights so we'll lynch them, all the more chances to block a kill.
And seriously, Vars, Saki, and Titus, will the three of you shut the fuck up for a while? The three of you are just down to wrestling in the mud by now.
Flench, I like your lists, but the criticism is correct. You did neglect cross bussing. Two people trying really hard to kill each other does not mean that they cannot be of the same alignment. But since you made that assumption across the board, I see no reason to suggest a deliberate act.
Tell me more about this Stubbs vs Jmo fight, though.
There has been so much blithering about Saki vs Varsoon that I don't think talking about it any more is going to help us. Especially not them talking about it. It all basically comes down to the rest of us deciding if we believe their claims or not.
If anyone has anything else to add, I want to hear about the other players, and I want our lurkers to share brief thoughts about what's going on.
Otherwise, if we really want this day to be a Saki vs Varsoon fight, let's just vote and stop yelling at each other.
Here's the Stubbs attack on jmo, I could see a him putting a mafia teammate on his "leaning mafia" list to avoid suspicion, but not on his top mafia pick.
In post 285, StubbsKVM wrote:Okay, I read through some ISO's and this is what I came up with.
Town
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Paschendale
Leaning Town
Saki
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Vote Me
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I don't know what you mean. Mafia could sit back do nothing, which is why for my reads on Stubbs and VoteMe I wrote afk > kill. Quiet people should not be allowed to remain so.In post 764, CherryDrPepper wrote: Flench, why cant scum try to distance/bus at this point? On that note of the four, which one are you most certain of?
The situations are numbered in order of likelihood(by my reads so far), I should have mentioned that. Saki and Varsoon both being RB is a very low chance so there is a high chance there is a mafia member in that pair, that's not even a read, just statistics.
So to clarify my top mafia picks in order (each has his own situation in my post)
1. Saki - mafia read and in the most likely mafia pair
2. Varsoon - no read but in the most likely mafia pair
3. Cherry - mafia read
4. JMO - bad town read or just annoying and unhelpful
5. Titus - town read but a weak one
I don't have enough info on VoteMe so I can't do anything with that, so he is near the top of the kill list, even though I can't put him at the top of the mafia list because I have no evidence.
Sorry if I am posting too much at this point because I was also annoyed as hell I had to read those 12 pages of Saki, Varsoon, RB shitstorm, but I am just answering questions about my post at this point.-
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Tell that to pages 12 > 24In post 768, Varsoon wrote:@Flench: Don't ever be sorry for posting too much. Posting is the only way the game moves.
12 people had to read all that shit that was posted in 24 hours, just make sure your posts have a point is what I'm saying.
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I can't think of a better way to find mafia then looking at who they have seriously pressured and go from there. Any mafia can half-heartedly go after another to distance themselves, I only chose fights I thought were legit, obviously I could be wrong.In post 773, Paschendale wrote: Uh... sure they can. I've done that as scum. Fighting with a teammate early on but never building enough steam to get a lynch is a good way to do early distancing. However, I don't think the Vars/Saki situation is an example of it, because it is likely to lead to a lynch. But don't rule it out.
Flench, I don't really like the pairing angle. Don't make associations based on unflipped slots. They're usually wrong. Explain your Cherry scum read specifically.
Cherry jumped on the easiest wagon(after you and I), Saki, and rode it until Saki was nearly lynched. This suggests he and Saki are not both mafia, because mafia do not like to jump on other mafias wagons late in the wagon(they might vote first or second for another mafia but not third). I also think Cherry has typically pitched in to add to whoever was under pressure at that time, not really starting the pressure but just enhancing it. All this reads mafia to me.-
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In post 792, Paschendale wrote:Vote: Vote Me
48 hours from now, I want him to either offer some solid reads, or be dead. Tunnel and Glass are in the same boat. I want more from Jmo and Stubbs, too.
I feel okay about Dyslexicon.Vote: VoteMe
Lurkers/afk people give no information, they must perish.
Varsoon I have to say that a couple of Tunnels points are decent so you should feel compelled to refute them.-
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First you say you didn't look at the setup because you don't think it's important. Then you say you intentionally didn't look at the setup so you could play VI easier.In post 813, Varsoon wrote:@TV: I didn't look at any of the setup because it's pointless to do so in most cases.
If that makes me stupid, well, eh, it was a part of my VI gambit to come into the game knowing nothing. I couldn't -fake- knowing nothing, so I didn't do any research.
It's like everything mafia you do you then just say it's because you were playing VI, yet you told us you were playing VI right after someone started pressuring you, so why even play VI if you are going to tell us that the instant we think you are acting like mafia?-
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1. Low chanceIn post 891, TunnelVision wrote:
1) Varsoon is town. He made what I believe to be an anti-town play by counterclaiming roleblocker without checking the game setup.
2) Varsoon is mafia. His roleclaim is a calculated anti-town play that has a number of potential plays/applications/risks/rewards. (This is the scenario that I believe to be true.)
My belief is that he's too smart for 1. The guy puts a lot of time into the game. Lots of posts, lots of thought, lots of theories... Understanding the game setup doesn't take much. He comfortable using numbers in his arguments, and the math for game setup options is quite simple and laid out neatly on that wiki page. Add on that people who seem to know him better than I also believe he's lying about game setup knowledge (Pasche in 842, I think somebody else said it too.) It just doesn't add up. It fails the logic test. I don't see how Town Varsoon could possible think that it was wise (and helpful to town) to counter claim without digging into the game setup (let alone trying other options if he really believed Saki was scum claiming a PR.) Quotes demonstrating that Varsoon's reason for CC'ing was because he didn't check game setup (because apparently I need to provide quotes to support everything I say):
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2. So if Varsoon is mafia and knew the setup, he would have known there was the 1% chance they were both town and the high chance they would both get lynched.
3. So a third senario would be varsoon being mafia and not knowing the setup and thinking his counter claim would make him the sole town RB. I think you are giving the guy too much credit, all of his meta defenses have been poorly strung together as everyone has pointed out. I think he just messed up and thought if he counter claimed he could kill Saki and would be the only RB. All of his posts have basically been saying "you better consider my master plan" but I don't think there is one, he just took a risky play counter claiming what now looks like town Saki, and not reading the setup backfired. He has been scrambling since he CCd. Now he is just using the chance they are both town as a get out of jail free card.
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Ok Saki, the 10th time is the charm. Yes I left my vote on you. I did it because you went afk from the game after I voted on you, the wagon stayed at L-3 until you returned. So one day you return, pretty much asked Titus to vote for you, then vote yourself, then stay at L-1 for all of 30 minutes before going back to L-3. I was gone that day as you noted in an earlier post, I was not posting in other games, just gone.In post 929, Saki wrote: 2. Flench did the exact same thing to me but he gets to be off the hook for it 'cause analysis?
I don't know why you keep bringing this up as though I intended for you to be lynched when in fact you created the danger yourself.
But don't worry, you are so clearly noobtown that you are safe and can continue posting your noobtown posts.-
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So that is what I think is going on.In post 907, Flench wrote: 3. So a third senario would be varsoon being mafia and not knowing the setup and thinking his counter claim would make him the sole town RB. I think you are giving the guy too much credit, all of his meta defenses have been poorly strung together as everyone has pointed out. I think he just messed up and thought if he counter claimed he could kill Saki and would be the only RB. All of his posts have basically been saying "you better consider my master plan" but I don't think there is one, he just took a risky play counter claiming what now looks like town Saki, and not reading the setup backfired. He has been scrambling since he CCd. Now he is just using the chance they are both town as a get out of jail free card.
Vote: Varsoon
I don't understand why Pasche is so strongly against lynching Varsoon. It's not just the statistics, that's like, less than half of the argument.
I think the mafia is made up of Varsoon, Cherry, Stubbs, and Glass in that order of certainty. For me this is what fits.
I still can't understand the case against lynching Varsoon, nothing anyone has said has made sense to me yet on that front. You are welcome to keep trying though.-
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1. If Varsoon is VT, he has pretty much screwed the town at this point, all we have is misinformation and he will be lynched because of his bad play.
2. He is yet again full of shit, trying to save the face of his mafia buddies defending him by casting doubt on his role. Please die so we can get on to other things and actually try to sort out this game.
This is why I am worried about waiting to lynch, I think with enough time, Varsoon can convince some of you he is town.
Just ask yourself, how stupid would you feel if you left him alive as town until the end and he was mafia? Pretty damn stupid, it was so obvious.
How stupid would you feel if he turns out to actually be VT? Not stupid at all, he did this shit himself, he screwed the town.-
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In post 1047, Varsoon wrote:Flench, you realize how scummy that sounds, right?
You want to string me up now because if I have time, I might prove my innocence?
Honestly, if you feel so worried about me, lynch me on D2 or D3. As of now, I've provided enough Wifom to make scum waste a NK or PR on me, which is good enough. I can say things like this due to the WIFOM already created. I can bluff right at scum because of what I've done and they have no way of knowing if I'm a PR or not, and so I'm high-risk for scum to keep alive.
Instead, Flench, you should be tracking my logic through the entire game with the knowledge that I am VT. A lot of my actions make a lot more sense once you know that.
I know how it sounds but that's how I feel when I think of people actually believing you, it makes me hopeless.
Varsoon, your logic cannot be tracked, I could make a case your posting throughout the game to be literally any role I can think of. You have no master plan, how does nobody else see this? He is just scrambling to find a way out.
I'm done posting for a while, before I get into any more trouble on my desire for Varsoon's death.
#rollout
edit: btw Varsoon, I'm a bit mad.-
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Hey new guy, I think I watched that show your avatar is one time around 10 years ago, they were in a cabin in the woods and he was solving murders and being short, I liked it. Anyways, I seriously doubt you have read everything so stop calling me out until you have.
I am currently lurking and reading everything, I'll listen to the jmo case, as he has been a strong mafia contender for the whole game, but Varsoon better die soon before he infects you guys with his stupidity and we let him live.
If we ever get to day 2 I'll make some more lists and scenarios I have been thinking about.-
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I have been caught up, I meant don't worry I read eveything. I don't have anything to say, nothing new has happened, and my thoughts are the same.In post 1211, Varsoon wrote: @Flench: You'd better have more to say when you catch up.
I am all for making jmo do something, he has been a mafia suspect of mine the whole game, but my vote aint changing sugapoo.-
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Maybe jmo is just bad town?In post 1221, Titus wrote:@Flench, jmo has been death tunnelling Varsoon for most of the game. That seems wholly inconstitent with them being mafia together. Thoughts?
@Varsoon/Saki, There have been multiple complaints about spam and you start talking about tv shows. Wt*!
Maybe Varsoon is just bad town?
Maybe they are both mafia and jmo saw Varsoon as a sinking ship and wanted to get town cred and distance himself from another mafia member, Varsoon wanted to save himself and is crazy and throws jmo under the bus in defense(bad mafia play but he has been fond of those).
Maybe Maybe Maybe, Varsoon should still die.-
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In post 1243, Titus wrote:
He is obviously the way to go, all his lies are making reads impossible for the town, he is helping mafia by creating a million posts debating the statistics of 2 RBs then saying oh yea I'm VT. He's a cancer to the town even if he isn't mafia. See Tunnel's post for more detail.In post 1237, Flench wrote:
Maybe jmo is just bad town?In post 1221, Titus wrote:@Flench, jmo has been death tunnelling Varsoon for most of the game. That seems wholly inconstitent with them being mafia together. Thoughts?
@Varsoon/Saki, There have been multiple complaints about spam and you start talking about tv shows. Wt*!
Maybe Varsoon is just bad town?
Maybe they are both mafia and jmo saw Varsoon as a sinking ship and wanted to get town cred and distance himself from another mafia member, Varsoon wanted to save himself and is crazy and throws jmo under the bus in defense(bad mafia play but he has been fond of those).
Maybe Maybe Maybe, Varsoon should still die.
That's a hell of a lot of maybes from a guy that's confident lynching Varsoon is the way to go.-
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this was meant to be outside the quote.In post 1243, Titus wrote:In post 1237, Flench wrote:
Maybe jmo is just bad town?In post 1221, Titus wrote:@Flench, jmo has been death tunnelling Varsoon for most of the game. That seems wholly inconstitent with them being mafia together. Thoughts?
@Varsoon/Saki, There have been multiple complaints about spam and you start talking about tv shows. Wt*!
Maybe Varsoon is just bad town?
Maybe they are both mafia and jmo saw Varsoon as a sinking ship and wanted to get town cred and distance himself from another mafia member, Varsoon wanted to save himself and is crazy and throws jmo under the bus in defense(bad mafia play but he has been fond of those).
Maybe Maybe Maybe, Varsoon should still die.
That's a hell of a lot of maybes from a guy that's confident lynching Varsoon is the way to go.
He is obviously the way to go, all his lies are making reads impossible for the town, he is helping mafia by creating a million posts debating the statistics of 2 RBs then saying oh yea I'm VT. He's a cancer to the town even if he isn't mafia. See Tunnel's post for more detail.-
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12ish hours later.
Varsoon - You were grabbing my ass about my large content posts but then when you realized I was intent on lynching you, you decided I was not contributing and mafia. Real hard to see the motivation there. All of the fluff posts do push away lurkers, it's really daunting to see 8 new pages when you were gone for a day. All that being said, pm me if you want me in your next game, you are fun to play with and this is a great game so far. Just a bit less fluff please.
New Xioix guy- Don't try to drop any sc2 knowledge yo, I'll embarrass you all day. Come at me on bnet hater.
ummm yea I guess we are waiting for something to happen, I suspect my voting is done for the day, I'll be active for a while though.
Everyone asking why people think Varsoon is mafia, please go back and read the thread. TV and I in particular given plenty of reasons if they weren't obvious enough(misinformation everywhere for a start).
inb4 "you say you have given reasons but I don't see any, so what are they?" "Flench is ignoring my question!" "STILL refuses to answer my question, conf scum!" stfu-
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