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1. I've finished 2 games, been in and hosted countless marathons and flaked from 4 games (:oops:) I'm currently playing a Large Theme and I've inned for two Open games. DK was in two of the games I flaked from, but I've seen him play in other games.
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FightingShadow wrote:
bothers me a lot. I know I said I would be willing to hammer. I am, if the trolling continues - however, it feels like people are trying to blur the line between a policy lynch and an actual suspicion lynch. Anyone trying to force this lynch through quickly (barring escalation in DK's trolling) is very suspicious.
It is no longer a "policy lynch" for me.
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Done reading. Quick Reads...
TheFool : Scum
Nothing but fluff and scummy wagon-hopping.
CMPunk: Scum
See above
DK : Town
His reactions are pro-town.
Thor : Town
It may be WIFOM, but I don't think scum would be so outgoing and enthusiastic. He is, however, tunneling Ray.
Ray : Null
You, sir, are rather hard to read
Sky : Null
Some posts are town, some are scum-ish
Everyone else is null.
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@RayM and FS:
What are your guys thoughts on TheFool? Cuz my reads on CMPunk and TheFool are very similar.Newbie 1197 is in Day 2 and requires0replacements.
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Ray Montano wrote:DonJosh wrote:@RayM and FS:
What are your guys thoughts on TheFool? Cuz my reads on CMPunk and TheFool are very similar.
Uh. Really?
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blindfaeth wrote:you must be joking. Not only have I replaced in long after it is allowed to post in the QT, but I quoted the post I was actually referring to.
Thor was talking to Ray, ftr.
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blindfaeth wrote:Yeah, and I butted in because it's regarding me.... so what? (:
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Ray Montano wrote:DonJosh wrote:Ray Montano wrote:FTR: DJ I answered first.
lolwut
And look right above blind's post...I answered Thor's issues before blind.
DonJosh wrote:blindfaeth wrote:Yeah, and I butted in because it's regarding me.... so what? (:
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[quote="TheFool"
DonJosh - iffy. Wants to policy lynch DK, but isn't much for meta? Something feels off about his play, can't put my finger on it.
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[quote=]"TheFool"
DonJosh - iffy. Wants to policy lynch DK, but isn't much for meta? Something feels off about his play, can't put my finger on it.
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I meant I don't like using meta to build a case or read.
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TheFool wrote:
DonJosh - iffy. Wants to policy lynch DK, but isn't much for meta? Something feels off about his play, can't put my finger on it.
I meant I don't like using meta to build a case or read.
GODDAMMIT
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DeityKabuto wrote:TheFool wrote:DonJosh wrote:I meant I don't like using meta to build a case or read.
Isn't meta the only basis for a policy lynch?
Do you have previous experience with DK?
No he doesn't.
Well, I've played games with thousands of people ITT-wide, and I do not recall any interactions with this guy. '-'
I've played half a game with DK (I replaced out)
IIRC, you are correct, there were no interactions with me directly. But I still dislike your playstyle.
Besides,
1. The policy lynch was during RVS
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I was reading Thor's ISO, and I agree with pretty much all his points. However, looking at the wagon, all my scum reads are on it.
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DeityKabuto wrote:
I can't improve by turning my attention span to ______ and doing less off ______.
Fill in the blanks.
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Thor665 wrote:The Tick wrote:Still, for just a couple seconds, pretend you're the teacher and I'm the student. Teach me why we should whack this guy.
I've said it a few times before and have apparently hit a brick wall with most of the players, but let me try yet another rendition - I'm an optimistic guy;
1. Ray is playing in a way that has no scumhunting - he's keeping reads close to his chest and not putting out any difficulties to prevent him from voting any way he pleases.
This is scummy because it let's him go "always suspected 'Player X' whenever he feels like it and helps him avoid being caught in any sort of contradiction of reads.
2. When approached by a player he believes is town, who is tunneling him, he does nothing to help the player un-tunnel and instead mocks his case and ability to form reads.
This is scummy because if you believe someone is town you don't want them tunneled, and certainly not on you. Also, if you think someone is town you should at least try to get them to talk out their reads and explain your issues with them to educate them - after all, you may be counting on them for your wincon later. Having a player beaten down to the point no one will listen to them is only helpful if that player is not on your side.
3. Refuses to back up statements he made by producing quotes.
This is...well...more annoying than scummy. But if I say something to someone, and they call me on it, I LOVE to produce the evidence to prove I'm right. It ends the debate, makes me feel like a real man and be a stallion in bed with women, and also advances the game onwards. Inability to do this suggests you're, well, just making stuff up and hoping no one will call you on it. Also known as lying. Lying is not pro-town.
4. The only reads Ray has offered have been three scum reads on three lurkers (for the crime of lurking) and one town read on me that he then shifted to a null.
This is scummy because these are wimpy easy reads that scum love (scum on lurkers for lurking) and he called me town while I was attacking him, and then shifted me to null when I kept attacking him, which to my mind suggests I was correct when I said his town read on me was an attempt to buy me off and get me to leave him alone. He shifted it to null right when lots of other players started voting me in, my opinion, a pretty clear setup to allow him to vote me if I became wagon of choice after he'd been calling me town.
Does that help?
Or is water not wet if you ignore the moistness?
UNVOTE: CMPunk
VOTE: Ray Montano
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blindfaeth wrote:
IDK I have to dwell on why Tick was killed I find it beneficial sometimes to try and figure out the reasoning behind it. With no protective roles in the game, you'd think someone that everyone believed to be super townie would be offed.
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Shadowmod wrote:
There are scum on this wagon. No doubt about it.
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The Votecount missed Sky's vote on CMPunk
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CMPunk wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:Thor665 wrote:I'm being run up for the scumtell of being "wrong" aren't I?
D1, I asked you if Ray flipped town, would you blame yourself, and you replied 'Yes, I would take the blame'.
Way before that I suspected you, and as a scum it's normal for you to admit taking the blame to appear Townie and confident with your read on Ray.
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Seems scum would go out of their way to pin this on Thor. Yes, he said he would take the blame if Ray flipped town but that does not make Thor scum IMO. It just made him wrong, like 6 other people were including me (Yes it took 7 to lynch, not just Thor)
Being wrong is NOT scum IMO
Pushing what seems to be a policy lynch on someone who was wrong, simply because they were wrong is Scummy.
Thor had no reason to stick his head out and say if I am wrong I take responsibilty, that is pretty big burden for someone to take, and putting themselves way out in the open, which scum/wolves want to avoid.
Thor is town
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havingfitz wrote:DeityKabuto wrote:Thor665 wrote:I can see where Thor is going with blindfaeth, another ML.
I am not. D1, we sheeped Thor and ended up with a mislynch, I will not sheep Thor again on blindfaeth.
DK...WTF? The quote above is not Thor's...its yours. Why are you having a conversation with yourself?
i lul'd
Also, I'd literally put my money on a CMPunk/TheFool scumteam.
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TheFool wrote:
Eh. While it is more likely that there are scum on the wagon than off, that is only because the wagon is the bigger group. This doesn't in itself increase the odds of any given person on the wagon of being scum; statistically that's a 50% chance for each person either way.
If you think their reasons for being on the wagon are suspect that's one thing, but approaching the problem mathematically is the wrong way to go.
BADBADBADBADBAD
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blindfaeth wrote:Well what else could it mean? Scumtell in my experience means it's a sure thing. So are you saying him saying that "you're better than this" therefore accusing you of being scum is correct?
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TheFool wrote:
DonJosh wrote:BADBADBADBADBAD
Huh?
Think. There was a wagon on a Townie day 1. Why the hellwouldn'tscum be on the wagon?Newbie 1197 is in Day 2 and requires0replacements.
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TheFool wrote:Thor665 wrote:1. Despite misgivings he's still more town looking than you or CM - sorry, deal with it.
2. Not scum in the last three votes of a Day 1 wagon on town with 5 scum available? Really? Where the heck were the scum then, 2-3 in the first 4 votes and then 2-3 in the three votes off the wagon? Derp-derp-herp, amirite?
Yeah, I get that, but it still seems like a jump from that to "blindfaeth is dramatically scummier than CMPunk because he was next to townier people on the wagon".
Also, I'm not sure how it's so derp-derp-herp to assume that the votes were scattered non-uniformly.
And yeah, the signiture thing is pretty pointless.
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I will be V/LA until the 28th due to camp. I will accept replacement at the mod's discretion.
As for my thoughts, I stand by my previous statement: CMPunk today, TheFool tomorrow.Newbie 1197 is in Day 2 and requires0replacements.
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In my other game, the mod found a temporary replacement for me. Maybe you could do that, Shadow? Just until I get back.
As for faeth, he's been real scummy the last few pages, and since kondi never posted, it's really all we have. Lynching faeth would be fine, too.Newbie 1197 is in Day 2 and requires0replacements.
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TheFool was scum? Wow, who would have guessed. /sarcasm
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I forgot my vote...
VOTE: CMPunk
I've had similar reads with TheFool and CMPunk since the start. I would bet money that CMPunk is Mafia.
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In post 843, BBmolla wrote:
@DonJosh: Do you think Thor is town? How do you feel about him thinking you are town but wanting to lynch you?
I do think Thor is town with two honest mislynches on his record.
He's explained the contradiction. He has a town read, but if DK is town, his PoE makes me scum. I don't see what the big deal is.Newbie 1197 is in Day 2 and requires0replacements.
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In post 886, DeityKabuto wrote:In post 885, DonJosh wrote:In post 843, BBmolla wrote:
@DonJosh: Do you think Thor is town? How do you feel about him thinking you are town but wanting to lynch you?
I do think Thor is town with two honest mislynches on his record.
He's explained the contradiction. He has a town read, but if DK is town, his PoE makes me scum. I don't see what the big deal is.
If Thor is scum, you just went out of your way to shield him.
That gives me three theories.
1. You are a confused town who is going by basic facts to decide whether Thor is town or not, seemingly as Thor pushed hard on the ML wagon D1, that is reason enough, no need to let his text and defense persuade you even further.
2. You are a scum who is trying to get your partner off the hook.
3. You are a scum who thinks by defending your partner, it will look like a normal towns people post, where every man has his/her own opinion, and it would be more of a bus / distance sort of thing but a more calm, straightforward thing to get your partner off the hook.
4. You are a town member answering a question honestly. You also want to avoid a third mislynch.
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In post 890, CMPunk wrote:I said I was going to hammer to see reactions, no one seemed to react. I was hoping someone would be over eager for a hammer. Tried a gambit, it failed.
Sorry
Why is CMPunk not dead?!?
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Godammit DK, you got me. You're right. Now I'm totally humiliated. That was my plan word for word. Good job.Newbie 1197 is in Day 2 and requires0replacements.
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In post 948, DeityKabuto wrote:Bbmola what do you gain from putting some1 like whisper who finds you scummy on your Town list. You gained whispers trust, that is.
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Way to steal my sig, DK
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