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It’s either Hugir/Dan or Furt/Dan.
Hugir is possibly town who fake Green’d there, but if Furt is Red, and Enchant duo live, it proves they’re Red.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Multiball and Redirects, gotta love itCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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I wasn’t being sarcasticCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Ever since Overkill 2, the 27 large theme where I was last one standing as SK, I’ve loved multi ball games here and there.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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That’s got some bias, of course, but I’ve lost some Multiball and liked the games a lot too, thoughCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Let’s do a complete reset.
I got a flyer.
Furt, I’m not gonna insta go after you, but explanation?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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In post 1516, Hell Froze Over wrote: Hey, sorry that I've kinda stopped playing this.
I did not catched up yet, can I please have a summary of all the claims that happened?
We got Abnegation because we needed to know if the role blocks were true or not. Enchant and ID were on Hugir. Enchant was parity cop ish, where they found out if their target was same alignment as target the night before. IceDrag and Aisa were same alignment, AD got targeted, and wasn’t.
On Day 3, Furt claimed to have Loverized Enchant, Enchant confirmed. Enchant dies here, Furt didn’t die.
Keeper and I are Found Neighbors essentially.
Feysal is a Flyer Vendor.
Hugir is a claimed Redirector.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Hugir and I were obv WIFOM claiming Green Scum, and it was clearly akin to a rain dance, as somehow, town has a chance of victory here.
I think we should take the time here, and go over all possibilities before voting, not that I think there’s a quick hammer possibility.
We are playing in a weird scenario that if there are teams of 3, then I’m the only town in this game, and we’re in a hilarious situation.
I am going to proceed like we are in a 2/2 situation, though.
I think we should all say who are towniest read is more than anything.
I think at this moment, oddly enough, I am leaning Feysal for my towniest.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Yeah, it's probable Hugir is Green Scum.
AD saying it doesnt necessarily mean they are, though.
Hugir, who did you Redirect?
I think we need to aim for Red Scum today then. If Hugir is suspected Green, we go for Red today, because if we miss, Red essentially has to kill off Green or risk getting killed off.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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And if we hit Red, then Green is easy tomorrow, just hit Hugir.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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So Keeper vs Furt is where Red Scum's at almost all the time. Hugir is probs Green.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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My gut is saying Hugir Town, but it might be one of those times I need to go against it.
However, I’ve been town reading Hugir every day phase off of gut, and maybe that means something.
I think Feysal is probably town. The redirect thing is weird, but it’s weird for Hugir to claim it after I did the flyer claim.
That being said, I realized I shouldn’t have claimed it prior to Hugir right after I claimed it.
Which leaves Furt and Keeper. If that’s the case, Keeper has to be Red Scum, which I can kinda see, but I’ve really been thinking it was AD/Furt.
Agh.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Both possible. But def spicy. Idk if I’m ready to agree with either yet, but I think it makes sense if you are town that Furt is Green Scum here.
That actually makes a lot of sense.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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It does fit the Keeper goes after Furt, AD defended Furt.
Also, Keeper stewed the Furt scum theory into me could have been straight through AD's doings.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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im kind of on board with Keeper Red, Furt Green.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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I dont think there's anything proving there was a kill every night for both scum teams? Why do you keep acting like AD's word is law?In post 1560, furtiveglance wrote:
You're not on board with me being the 1-way Lover/Roleblocker who chose to also kill N1 are you?In post 1559, Flavor Leaf wrote: im kind of on board with Keeper Red, Furt Green.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Enchant did claim to have been loverized.
But that seems like a scum role to me, tbh. So beneficial as scum.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Occam's Razor is Hugir/Furt both scum to be honest.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Mine, Keepers, and Feysal's role claims come out really smoothly, where Hugir/Furt's had some hiccups and WIFOM all around them.
I think we just kill one of them today.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Green scum also had no reason to kill Enchant this night phase since Enchant was only a threat to Red scum.
IceDragon and Enchant both being on Hugir the other day implicates Hugir. It also doesn't make sense for AD to push his own partner as Green Scum, so Hugir is Green Scum or nothing probably.
Leaving Furt or Keeper for Red Scum. Idk, I think I'm leaning Furt here.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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In post 1569, furtiveglance wrote: Flavor Leaf is consistently 'leaning' me against all logic, this is surely a scum trajectory
What logic? You and Hugir have the messiest slots.
Keeper+Feysal slots have little to no fog shrouding them. If you flip town, if I were scum, the other scum just shoots me and it's a loss, so I don't really get your point here.
I feel like ever since I've been here, this is the extent of your push on me, and it feels purely defensive in an aggressive way. I don't really think you have any reason to push me as scum that wouldn't be forced or baseline.
Hugir and Keeper also have been saying you're likely scum here, yet with me, it's me consistently 'leaning' you.
I think it's fair to lean everyone right now, and I have been going through everyone this day phase. I went from strongarming, as ActionDan attacked my push on you, to pillow arming, where I was pushing you less and less.
Can you explain why you think me 'consistently leaning' you is a scum trajectory?
Because I feel that my trajectory is pretty standard, and even has been more forgiving than the scum read I had on you.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Why would you have died?In post 1570, furtiveglance wrote: It's baffling that my role doesn't make sense as a scum one, and these people are just chucking everything out the window to decide that I'm a scum roleblocker, when I should be soft clear for not doing the nightkill N1 or I would have died.
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”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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this is not a partnery interaction between keeper/AD imo. Could it be AD defending Hugir?
Ahhh...could AD-Hugir stuff be Red Scum distancing?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Oh, I'm nearly fully on board with Hugir as scum at this point, so I'm not taking too much stock into their ability.In post 1577, furtiveglance wrote:
As in scum redirected to scum kill themselvesIn post 1574, Flavor Leaf wrote:
Why would you have died?In post 1570, furtiveglance wrote: It's baffling that my role doesn't make sense as a scum one, and these people are just chucking everything out the window to decide that I'm a scum roleblocker, when I should be soft clear for not doing the nightkill N1 or I would have died.
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”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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But I always do this with Hugir, so I'm also torn between believing it or not.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Green Scum had no reason to kill Enchant. They were no longer a threat. The double kill possibility? Sure, but I don't buy it because Red NEEDED to kill Enchant, so Green had a pass to go elsewhere.
So it's either switching kills or blocked.
Once I get to work, I'll find some time to do some VCA/Theory Spec.
@Hugir - If you're scum, you're doing well simply because tone wise, I believe you. My issue is I just don't see Keeper or Feysal as scum here ever. They seem genuine, and ActionDan-Keeper interactions looking back is funny.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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@Furtive - Did Enchant know that it was you they were loverized to when they were told they were loverized? Or did they just get informed they were loverized?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
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I see the case on Keeper. I just can also see them doing all that as town.
Thing is, the Keeper announce is confirmed to be a role doing, and the only non confirmed possible role to be able to do it is Hugir’s Redirect. I would expect scum to get something out of doing it if Green Scum.
But i think it’s fairly close to certain scum have extra factional abilities. Occam’s Razor is that it switches.
I think Rauth’s role directly implies it as well because i don’t think it makes sense to “Check” if your action went through on a kill with the setup.
The Flyer Vendor is actually a really cool role in the setup thanks to roleblock/redirect/anti redirect possibilities.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
”Yeah, the moment I realized Flavor was scum I stopped trying because I’m sure as hell not beating him.” - Clemency
”Not bragging about myself as much as I'm actually praising the Scum player of the year...and probably the decade.” - Almost50
"Just accept that FL is too good as scum, period." - Clidd-
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Hugir, why am I not an option for you here?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Here’s my thing, why does Enchant die in a Green Scum Roleblocking world?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Okay then.
I think Furt fade today, then you Redirect Keeper to Keeper.
If Keeper/Furt are both scum, that just is a win, right?
That also would out you if you were scum. And Feysal or Myself died.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I’m okay going tomorrow with 4 alive.
If that happens, we just fight it out.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Probably ends with a Hugir/Keeper debate.
Both you and Keeper are putting me as town, so I’m pocketed by one of you. I can make a scum case and a town case for both of you.
If Feysal’s scum, honestly, gg.
If people think I’m scum, we can fight it off tomorrow.
If Furt ends up being town, scum still have to try and cross kill, or lose, so that’s funny.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Like Hugir Scum always shoots Keeper here, Keeper scum always shoots Hugir.
If a roleblock happens, we’re in 3p Elo.
Furt is the best fade today.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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VOTE: Furt
Still think Furt is Red.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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@Hugir - You see his slip?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Actually, it’s not a slip.
It is if he’s implying we’re scum together, but the logic they’re trying to use likely comes from scum.
If it’s 3/3, Hugir/Myself have no reason to pair up on Furt if we’re partners or if we’re against each other. It’s just lose-lose both ways.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Furt, you’re going “won’t listen to reason”
What is said reason? That there’s a lot of role interaction? That’s why you’re scummy, to be honest.
Try to explain where you think scum is.
If you’re town, you are already implying you think it’s Hugir and I, but you’re spending all your time trying to convince US that we’re scum. You’re battling this game directly at us, not with us, which is scummy.
It’s completely performative looking.
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I’ll give it time, but like…come onCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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You’re also acting like I have been specifically o my going for you, when I’m completely aware that Keeper/Hugir could just be the two remaining scum.
So you’re not even locked.
“Won’t even listen to reason?”
I’m here and listening. What are the reasons? Why are they better than the reasons I could find for everyone else in the game being town?
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So they didn’t get mod confirmed Loverized? It was strictly because the two of you got put into a Vaccuum?In post 1603, furtiveglance wrote:
I told them, we had a PT. They didn't use it much though, and were pretty miffed about being targeted.In post 1587, Flavor Leaf wrote: @Furtive - Did Enchant know that it was you they were loverized to when they were told they were loverized? Or did they just get informed they were loverized?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I accidentally made it Green for Town, but yeah.
I keep going back to this. Do I really think zero scum was on Kawaii here? I specifically stated earlier I think there was scum in that first 4. So far that whole wagon is all town. I know I’m town, and out of Feysal/Furt, I always am leaning Furt here.
Leaving perfectly Hugir and Keeper as the unflipped off the wagon.
Hugir Redirect annoyingly keeps them alive today, even if they are scum, but they are stuck because if they don’t Keeper to Keeper, they’re dead every time, so if a kill goes through, Hugir is always scum.
4 alive in an elo is fine, we just play it like the last day every time.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Feysal - Flyer Vendor
furtiveglance - 1-shot 1 way Loverizer
The Keeper - Found Paired Neighborizer
Flavor Leaf - Found Paired Neighborizer
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Rautherdir - Green Checker
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KawaiiKame - Blue Neighborizer
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You know what, Keeper is insanely likely to be scum here probs.
You wanna know what happened Night 1…Blue targeted Keeper.
You wanna know what happened Day 2 start.
Keeper was confirmed not Green Scum.
If Keeper’s role is they get targeted by the other Affiliation, they get that ability pairs insanely nicely with a Redirector Partner.
Keeper is Dan’s partner then.
My only issue is I really don’t want to deal with a no kill night and choose between Furt and Hugir, because gut says Furt, mech says Hugir.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Personally, with the Redirections, I think the Flyer Vendor is a fantastic addition to this game on a setup level. It can mess with possible Redirections, and is just Fun With Redirect, essentially. Keeper didn’t claim until way later, which could have been a calculated move in case it was something like a Disloyal Vendor or something.
The more I think about it, the more I kind of like One Way Loverizer too. That’s a role that doesn’t make sense to have more than 1-shot, and I had a limited action myself if I found the player.
It’s also a fantastic way to deal with Abnegation’s Miller role.
ActionDan specifically commented on thinking Blue and Keeper were Masons, which is kind of an interesting level of distancing if Keeper is his partner. I like that play a lot. Keeper had been playing this like a Masonry, and Keeper had been pushing Furt, which could have been ActionDan making the GameFic of ‘Flavor was strongarming Furt all game’. And Dan supported Furt onto me early, so I’m starting to think Keeper more and more.
Hugir Redirector claim is a nice symmetry to Red Scum, and Green Checker and Redirector vs Green Partial IC and Redirector checks out balance wise.
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Long story short, there are no factional abilities, and likely just alternating Night Kills.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Keeper Red
Hugir GreenCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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there's nothing that proves factional abilities, thoughCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I think the possibility of Redirect is too dangerous because as scum, if we hit town today, you can just win if you know who other scum is, which i feel is becoming obviously Keeper.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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No. They’ve been gone for a bit.
We are not a Mason VaccuumCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Affiliation Vacuum.
So i guess it kinda makes sense they said Mason. But that’s our Notion, not where Invocation isCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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“We now know that Abnegation was a special miller, and without both factions having an investigation, her role would not make much sense.“
Parity cop interacted with itCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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i don’t like the idea of them No Killing, but if they do that’s fine too because we get the next day.In post 1623, Hugir wrote: With that said, while I still don’t think I’m wrong, I must ask you this because I simply can’t unsee it.
This is the second time where you blindly assumed that scum has to kill, even if it ends up costing them. Why is that?In post 1620, Flavor Leaf wrote: I think the possibility of Redirect is too dangerous because as scum, if we hit town today, you can just win if you know who other scum is, which i feel is becoming obviously Keeper.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Weird thing right now is Hugir using stuff that requires us to trust their word on seething that happened and acting as it’s fact is something I don’t like.
I’m pretty sold on KeeperScum, and when they get targeted by the other Affiliation, they get their Green IC public shout out.
I’ve been thinking about it, and I think Blue/Keeper were pretty obvious Day 1 crumbing at each other, so why would Keeper have targeted Aisa.
@Feysal - what are your thoughts on Furt?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Wait, there’s probably only one kill per night anyways.
There might not be Multitasking scum then.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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I think Hugir’s making a strong case that sounds good and logical, I just dont really believe anything they say. Like I wanna believe them, but paranoia keeps me away.
I kind of think Furt’s being obvTown lately too.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Yeah, but that’s just as much a reason for why you would do it like that as scum.In post 1645, Hugir wrote:
I mean that's why literally I've been spending half of the time explaining why I wouldn't be lying about things I say. That's where "even if I was scum" thing is coming from. To show that I have no reason to lie about things I'm saying because it wouldn't make sense as either alignment for me.In post 1643, Flavor Leaf wrote:Weird thing right now is Hugir using stuff that requires us to trust their word on seething that happened and acting as it’s fact is something I don’t like.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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What are your thoughts on my Keeper theory?CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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Feysal could have just been targeted by IceDragon the day they died. They were strong town reading them. Was IceDragons ability permanent or night onlyCHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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It feels like you’re trying to make it so there has to be a Roleblocker in this game, and if you’re town, fine, that can be a solution, but I don’t have any reason to be able to take that at face value. I have to trust you completely with it.
That’s the issue. If you’re town, you’re doing the right stuff, but you gotta see why it’s hard to trust that.CHECK OUT MY HOW TO PLAY AS SCUM GUIDE Maybe it'll help you catch me
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