The final final solveIn post 1318, Gimli wrote: I'm voting mala
there's nothing conftown about her, she just crumbed PR
that's my final solve, I could be wrong, but so is everyone so lol
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Black is not a follower since she defended me when I'm not Kira, town has the most motivation to defend town, I don't see Black playing as Kira, the doubts in her reads, genuinely wanting to solve the game, everything in thought/action, I only see a town motivation behind her play
Vander feels the most dangerous as Kira, he has logical precision to question any argument, any thought, any line of thinking, he's defended no one and only pursued people, I feel Vander has the mind to be an aggressive Kira, questioning everyone/everything powering through the game as town, the only possibilities in my eyes is Kira/town, Vander feels dangerous as Kira since he's only behind Black in being town, Vander feels Black is top town, same with me, if Gimli was a follower Vander will be his Kira since Gimli defended Vander/Black as town, Vander also went into me with Gimli when I feigned being Kira, Kira/town has motivation to eliminate false Kira, Vander is in the best position to win as Kira being seen as town by everyone
Kokichi is the defensive Kira defending me as town while pursuing the Gimli/HPE/mala eliminations, 2/3 being threats to Kokichi, Idk how likely my own theory is since town has the most incentive defending town, town wants to eliminate who they see as Kira, this theory semi falls since we have yet to see anyone defend Kokichi when being pursued
HPE is not a follower, feels town but as Kira would possibly play like this, HPE wasn't pursued and I don't think HPE was defended heavily at any point despite Kokichi wanting to pursue HPE
Gimli as Kira is a no-go, most likely a follower of Vander if a follower, if town the solve in mala/std/lorne feels genuine, only one left out of this is meg, all 4 to be analyzed in depth soon-
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I mean you can be, anyone can be, but it's unlikely as of now, I willIn post 1373, Kokichi Oma wrote:
If Vander is kira, I agree that is dangerous, but I don't think he is at the moment.In post 1362, KawaiiKame wrote: Kokichi is the defensive Kira defending me as town while pursuing the Gimli/HPE/mala eliminations, 2/3 being threats to Kokichi, Idk how likely my own theory is since town has the most incentive defending town, town wants to eliminate who they see as Kira, this theory semi falls since we have yet to see anyone defend Kokichi when being pursued
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You standing by scum is within Gimli/mala/HPE?In post 1378, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I'm not looking for Kira, I'm looking for scummy people. The reason this game this game is the way it is, is because people aren't treating it like a normal maf game, but keep looking for kira tells instead of scum tells.In post 1377, KawaiiKame wrote:
I mean you can be, anyone can be, but it's unlikely as of now, I willIn post 1373, Kokichi Oma wrote:
If Vander is kira, I agree that is dangerous, but I don't think he is at the moment.In post 1362, KawaiiKame wrote: Kokichi is the defensive Kira defending me as town while pursuing the Gimli/HPE/mala eliminations, 2/3 being threats to Kokichi, Idk how likely my own theory is since town has the most incentive defending town, town wants to eliminate who they see as Kira, this theory semi falls since we have yet to see anyone defend Kokichi when being pursued
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Truth tell? I didn'r even see this when writing my Vander is Kira theoryIn post 1245, Gimli wrote:
my kira is vanderscamp obviouslyIn post 1243, Black wrote: That's a great question and I think I would have to comb back over the thread to look for associatives. I've been under the impression Gimli is more likely to be a follower so I've been thinking more about who his Kira could be-
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EBW02PIn post 1382, KawaiiKame wrote:
Truth tell? I didn't even see this when writing my Vander is Kira theoryIn post 1245, Gimli wrote:
my kira is vanderscamp obviouslyIn post 1243, Black wrote: That's a great question and I think I would have to comb back over the thread to look for associatives. I've been under the impression Gimli is more likely to be a follower so I've been thinking more about who his Kira could be-
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It looks like this is going to happen...In post 287, MegAzumarill wrote: We are on evens, I'm partial to a day 1 no lim here tbh.-
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I'm reading Azu's IS0, I'm getting the same town feeling as you, who else is town to you HPE?In post 1384, HighPrincessErinys wrote: ISO read done. Azu still feels VERY towny honestly. Don't super agree with some of her earlier posts but they're not really scummy and beyond that she gets very towny and stays that way.-
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What is reality?In post 1024, MegAzumarill wrote: It's plausible imo, I don't really think it's reality-
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No lim night kill town flip is pretty good, Idek if voting eliminations give flips, I'm feeling no, so it's not imperative we vote anyone at even as meg said since info isn't given in thisIn post 1387, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
No lim is honestly not the worst as Azu's said before considering it flips someone who is definitely town.In post 1385, KawaiiKame wrote:
It looks like this is going to happen...In post 287, MegAzumarill wrote: We are on evens, I'm partial to a day 1 no lim here tbh.
Black and Vanderscamp are my main townreads rn, with Kokichi being a lesser lean. Lorne this one previously called just a goofball townie but it's pretty sure he could be a goofball scummie too, so. That's just what he is regardless of alignment it thinks. A goofball.In post 1386, KawaiiKame wrote:
I'm reading Azu's IS0, I'm getting the same town feeling as you, who else is town to you HPE?In post 1384, HighPrincessErinys wrote: ISO read done. Azu still feels VERY towny honestly. Don't super agree with some of her earlier posts but they're not really scummy and beyond that she gets very towny and stays that way.
You feel... kinda towny? You're a little confusing to get a read on honestly, kind of in the same camp as Gimli where you're teeter-tottering from one lean to the other constantly. You're probably in need of an ISO read too but its time for this one to do its whimsical activities instead of living in the thread.
0nly way this makes sense is if town is certain we pursuing Kira/a follower, but we don't know who the follower is and the only way to know we kill Kira is if the game ends, I'm not seeing any ideal options to vote at this point
I'm with you with Black/Vander/Azu being top towns, I see you, me and Koki as towns, both mala/Gimli feel they solving the game though they colliding, the solving feels town, leaving std/lorne, std is hard to read and lorne's playstyle is nai, a follower exists within who I see as town by necessity, out of everyone I town read I see Vander being Kira as most likely, Kira could be mala/std though, lorne might be a follower Idek-
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In post 1390, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I don't even know anymoreIn post 1381, KawaiiKame wrote:
You standing by scum is within Gimli/mala/HPE?In post 1378, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I'm not looking for Kira, I'm looking for scummy people. The reason this game this game is the way it is, is because people aren't treating it like a normal maf game, but keep looking for kira tells instead of scum tells.In post 1377, KawaiiKame wrote:
I mean you can be, anyone can be, but it's unlikely as of now, I willIn post 1373, Kokichi Oma wrote:
If Vander is kira, I agree that is dangerous, but I don't think he is at the moment.In post 1362, KawaiiKame wrote: Kokichi is the defensive Kira defending me as town while pursuing the Gimli/HPE/mala eliminations, 2/3 being threats to Kokichi, Idk how likely my own theory is since town has the most incentive defending town, town wants to eliminate who they see as Kira, this theory semi falls since we have yet to see anyone defend Kokichi when being pursued
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Do you know who town is?In post 1390, Kokichi Oma wrote: I don't even know anymore-
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0 ambition... let's make this a 100 page day 1In post 1389, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I see you are also in favor of a 100 page day 2In post 1387, HighPrincessErinys wrote: No lim is honestly not the worst-
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kawaii kira kills kokiIn post 1376, Gimli wrote: koki kira kills kawaii-
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Time to solveIn post 1398, MegAzumarill wrote: Plenty of time-
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Then we eliminate Kira/follower, who do you feel is scum?In post 1400, Kokichi Oma wrote: I feel like no elim would be not good. We are basically giving Kira an extra day-
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You good, when I asked about the 3 Koki had no idea, wanted to see if Koki's mind changedIn post 1404, Black wrote: EBWOP: ehhh I guess you just asked if 3 people in particular are scum. Sorry kawaii I misread-
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I play off and on in debateart.comIn post 1405, Vanderscamp wrote:
What about mafia in general?In post 1166, KawaiiKame wrote:
I am new to mafiascumIn post 1108, Vanderscamp wrote: Also, are you really a new player?
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It was only 90 minutes?In post 1412, Black wrote:
In an hour and a half? XDIn post 1410, KawaiiKame wrote:
You good, when I asked about the 3 Koki had no idea, wanted to see if Koki's mind changedIn post 1404, Black wrote: EBWOP: ehhh I guess you just asked if 3 people in particular are scum. Sorry kawaii I misread-
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I want to engage with who's in with meIn post 1412, Black wrote:
In an hour and a half? XDIn post 1410, KawaiiKame wrote:
You good, when I asked about the 3 Koki had no idea, wanted to see if Koki's mind changedIn post 1404, Black wrote: EBWOP: ehhh I guess you just asked if 3 people in particular are scum. Sorry kawaii I misread-
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This feels like a stylistic thing, like mala can be genuinely pissed at being outed thinking Gimli is game throwing, I don't know how mala plays, feels like an upset town/caught scum in reaction, like yeah the game gets heated and mala may have been at her breaking point, if you feel mala's reaction is sai that's valid, what else do we have on mala that's sai?In post 1419, Vanderscamp wrote: I think Mala's reaction was pretty scummy, like Mala seemed really annoyed in a really obviously "I'm a TPR" type way. I get that this may seem unhelpful to talk about, but it was imo so blatant that there's no chance anyone missed it, so I'm just going to talk about it. I basically feel like if you are what you're softing it doesn't make sense because you would not want to actually react in that way, and it didn't feel at all like a VT trying to take a bullet, so I think it was just scummy.-
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Who is defending Mala?
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Mala Kira followers real quiet since the E-2 droppedIn post 1425, Lorne Malvo wrote: Looks like Malakittens is not scum-
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Yee the lack of anyone defending Mala outside of Mala indicates she's not KiraIn post 1425, Lorne Malvo wrote: Looks like Malakittens is not scum-
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Kokichi literally can be KiraIn post 1419, Vanderscamp wrote: "I literally can't be Kira"-
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You a follower?In post 1430, Lorne Malvo wrote:
I'm not quiet thoughIn post 1428, KawaiiKame wrote:
Mala Kira followers real quiet since the E-2 droppedIn post 1425, Lorne Malvo wrote: Looks like Malakittens is not scum-
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Fake follower, you don't know who the 2nd follower isIn post 1433, Lorne Malvo wrote:
Yes, Mala is the Kira, the other follower is GimliIn post 1432, KawaiiKame wrote:
You a follower?In post 1430, Lorne Malvo wrote:
I'm not quiet thoughIn post 1428, KawaiiKame wrote:
Mala Kira followers real quiet since the E-2 droppedIn post 1425, Lorne Malvo wrote: Looks like Malakittens is not scum-
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IS0ing std I'm seeing this,In post 1438, Vanderscamp wrote:What are you talking about?
STD has been hard defending Mala for basically the entire game.
In post 766, Save The Dragons wrote: it's dumb but these posts feel like they come from someone who knows they're town, not someone pretending to be town
In post 229, Malakittens wrote: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzZZZzzzzZZZzIn post 686, Malakittens wrote: ............
std constantly sees/defends mala as town, potentially mala Kira, follower stdIn post 759, Save The Dragons wrote: mala is townie
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As in eliminating them?In post 1363, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Like holy shit if we can remove a person or two from the equation entirely that would be splendid. Not to mention Detective getting to brainstorm which has a (assuming no shenanigans) 3 in 4 chance of catching a badman.-
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In post 1443, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Are you asking about the first or second part of the question?In post 1442, KawaiiKame wrote:
As in eliminating them?In post 1363, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Like holy shit if we can remove a person or two from the equation entirely that would be splendid. Not to mention Detective getting to brainstorm which has a (assuming no shenanigans) 3 in 4 chance of catching a badman.In post 1443, HighPrincessErinys wrote: if we can remove a person or two from the equation entirely-
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Wait does he?In post 1440, Black wrote:
Don't you have a tr on StD?In post 1438, Vanderscamp wrote: STD has been hard defending Mala for basically the entire game.-
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Who's been avoidant?In post 1329, Save The Dragons wrote: I think a follower would avoid people rather than straight up town read them for what appears to be sketchy reasons-
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Least elimination will helpIn post 1446, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Elimination + Whoever Kira kills-
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Do you want to continue until the deadline/eliminate someone b4?In post 1422, HighPrincessErinys wrote: It is kind of unreal how we still have 2 RL days before the gameday ends by deadline.-
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Kira wins if we don't kill Kira without one day of killing the Detective right?In post 1454, Vanderscamp wrote:
I understand what you're saying, but if that's the combination then I think the game is already over.In post 1453, Black wrote:
I'm saying it's odd for you to put even more pressure on mala when you tr someone that has been defending her all game. I wonder what other role combination that could apply to?In post 1451, Vanderscamp wrote:Yeah, but what you're saying isn't true.
Also, I could be wrong on STD, and there are other people who could be followers to Mala.
I think there's some real chance Mala is Detective, not as likely as her being scum, but the way she's reacted to Gimli calling her detective is just so over the top obviously signalling "I'm the detective" that I don't think there's any point not addressing it, and I want to live in the worlds where we have a decent chance of winning. If I thought I was somehow the only person thinking this then I probably wouldn't push her despite thinking it's more likely scummy, but this clearly isn't the case.-
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Do you feel it's worth the risk of getting a potential Mala Kira even if she may be the Detective?In post 1456, Vanderscamp wrote: Yes
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Hopefully we will, with the elimination/night kill we can solveIn post 1457, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
This one's said before that a night phase would probably help a lot, so its hoping we can end a bit sooner rather than hit deadline.In post 1450, KawaiiKame wrote:
Do you want to continue until the deadline/eliminate someone b4?In post 1422, HighPrincessErinys wrote: It is kind of unreal how we still have 2 RL days before the gameday ends by deadline.-
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If no, I'm willing to be town's day elimination todayIn post 1458, KawaiiKame wrote:
Do you feel it's worth the risk of getting a potential Mala Kira even if she may be the Detective?In post 1456, Vanderscamp wrote: Yes
Idk how much hope we will have of killing Kira within the day if Mala is the 2nd option
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I'm waiting on Mala to come back to speak b4 voting to E-1, forcing her to do the Day-vig kill, eliminating her if she fails toIn post 1461, Vanderscamp wrote:
I think Mala is sufficiently scummy and her detective softing is so blatant that at this point if she doesn't vig someone I would just lim her.In post 1458, KawaiiKame wrote:
Do you feel it's worth the risk of getting a potential Mala Kira even if she may be the Detective?In post 1456, Vanderscamp wrote: Yes
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You finally see the LightIn post 1472, Kokichi Oma wrote:
Okay I can be Kira thenIn post 1439, Vanderscamp wrote:
I agree.In post 1431, KawaiiKame wrote:
Kokichi literally can be KiraIn post 1419, Vanderscamp wrote: "I literally can't be Kira"
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We made it to page 60In post 1297, Kokichi Oma wrote: These are the type of posts we need to get this to page 60-
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UNVOTE: Kokichi
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Not 100%, the chance exists that mala is the real assistantIn post 1505, Gimli wrote: Claiming assistant is 100% a scum move though, y'all bad for taking it at face value
Mala why didn't you claim Detective if you wanted to keep your Detective safe?In post 1489, Malakittens wrote: I'm the assistant. I have been trying to bait the NK to keep my dect. safe, but it should have never come down to me claiming.
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You'd have to prove it, maybe that's whyIn post 1512, KawaiiKame wrote:
Not 100%, the chance exists that mala is the real assistantIn post 1505, Gimli wrote: Claiming assistant is 100% a scum move though, y'all bad for taking it at face value
Mala why didn't you claim Detective if you wanted to keep your Detective safe?In post 1489, Malakittens wrote: I'm the assistant. I have been trying to bait the NK to keep my dect. safe, but it should have never come down to me claiming.-
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I'll waitIn post 1501, Kokichi Oma wrote: Kawaii that's a silly vote for now. Why not just wait?-
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Yeah I just realized thisIn post 1515, Black wrote:
If mala fake claimed detective we would make her use the vig which she wouldn't be able to do. Then she just diesIn post 1512, KawaiiKame wrote: Mala why didn't you claim Detective if you wanted to keep your Detective safe?-
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It's possible mala is scum claiming assistant, it's possible mala is the assistant, until mala is ccd we have an unccd assistant so we need to assume mala is assistant until someone ccsIn post 1505, Gimli wrote: Claiming assistant is 100% a scum move though, y'all bad for taking it at face value-
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Town:
Mala-unccd assistant
Black- Top town read
Likely Town:
Kokichi/HPE/Azu
Neutral:
STD
Chaos:
Lorne
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Vander/Gimli
The only 2 I'm willing to vote who isn't Vander/Gimli is STD/Lorne, Lorne > STD-
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Explain how Vander is the towniest slot in the gameIn post 1539, Gimli wrote: and now you're reading the game all upside down because you're scumreading people you'd definitely be townreading like fucking vanderscamp the towniest slot in the game-
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The ATE is nai then?In post 1550, Save The Dragons wrote: it's not toxic it's part of the game, i ATE as both town and scum all the time-
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SigmaIn post 1560, Gimli wrote: lets kill that slot
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Who else is town going to eliminate?In post 1565, Black wrote:
What? Why is it the best option we have??In post 1563, KawaiiKame wrote:
SigmaIn post 1560, Gimli wrote: lets kill that slot
Hate to kill a replacing slot but it's the best option we have-
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In post 1699, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Are we actually waiting for the mods to kill Vander IF Mala is Detective?Yes-
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Is my Koki is Kira theory right?In post 1705, Black wrote: HPE/Vander followers with Kokichi Kira?
I have so many interactions to look at later-
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