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Post Post #1400 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:40 am

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I feel like no elim would be not good. We are basically giving Kira an extra day
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #1401 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 11:59 am

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In post 1400, Kokichi Oma wrote: I feel like no elim would be not good. We are basically giving Kira an extra day
Then we eliminate Kira/follower, who do you feel is scum?
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Post Post #1402 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:02 pm

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In post 1401, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1400, Kokichi Oma wrote: I feel like no elim would be not good. We are basically giving Kira an extra day
Then we eliminate Kira/follower, who do you feel is scum?
Didn't you literally just ask him this??
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1403 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:02 pm

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If you are asking questions and not processing the answers that's performative af
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1404 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:03 pm

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EBWOP: ehhh I guess you just asked if 3 people in particular are scum. Sorry kawaii I misread
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1405 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:22 pm

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In post 1166, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1108, Vanderscamp wrote: Also, are you really a new player?

Because if you are then you would become a lot more towny to me.
I am new to mafiascum
What about mafia in general?
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Post Post #1406 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:23 pm

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In post 1173, Gimli wrote: okay I'm gonna case STD, this will actually be mostly me trying to convince myself his posts are actually scummy as opposed to std just being std, the unreadable fox I keep playing with

in a bit
In post 1174, Gimli wrote: yeah IDK I like his ISO tbh
Kokichi, does this kind of stuff from Gimli change your meta read?
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Post Post #1407 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:26 pm

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In post 1202, Malakittens wrote: Voting me is the wrong play and will not end the game for town. It will just screw us more so let’s not and say we did
This phrasing is pretty weird, "screw us more" implies we're already screwed in some way which I don't think is true.
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Post Post #1408 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:27 pm

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In post 1205, Malakittens wrote: The more I think about it the less likely I’m think kawaii is scum so that’s one slot I won’t be voting

Also I vaguely remember someone mixing up eliminate and day vig I think that slot is prob town as well
That was me, ez town cred
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Post Post #1409 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 12:30 pm

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In post 1241, Black wrote:
In post 1240, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 1238, Black wrote: I can get back on the Gimli wagon. Something is up with kawaii but I can't figure it out

VOTE: Gimli
I struggle to find it more likely that it's an intentional false dumbtell over actually just missing some of the setup information.
Yeah that's kinda where I'm leaning after reading over a bit this morning. Still want to keep the possibility of him being Kira in my head though
I still hard disagree with this, I would have probably thought the same if there wasn't a ton of conversation around it already.
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Post Post #1410 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:09 pm

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In post 1404, Black wrote: EBWOP: ehhh I guess you just asked if 3 people in particular are scum. Sorry kawaii I misread
You good, when I asked about the 3 Koki had no idea, wanted to see if Koki's mind changed
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Post Post #1411 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:11 pm

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In post 1405, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 1166, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1108, Vanderscamp wrote: Also, are you really a new player?

Because if you are then you would become a lot more towny to me.
I am new to mafiascum
What about mafia in general?
I play off and on in debateart.com
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Post Post #1412 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:12 pm

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In post 1410, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1404, Black wrote: EBWOP: ehhh I guess you just asked if 3 people in particular are scum. Sorry kawaii I misread
You good, when I asked about the 3 Koki had no idea, wanted to see if Koki's mind changed
In an hour and a half? XD
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #1413 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:13 pm

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In post 1412, Black wrote:
In post 1410, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1404, Black wrote: EBWOP: ehhh I guess you just asked if 3 people in particular are scum. Sorry kawaii I misread
You good, when I asked about the 3 Koki had no idea, wanted to see if Koki's mind changed
In an hour and a half? XD
It was only 90 minutes?
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Post Post #1414 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:14 pm

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In post 1412, Black wrote:
In post 1410, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 1404, Black wrote: EBWOP: ehhh I guess you just asked if 3 people in particular are scum. Sorry kawaii I misread
You good, when I asked about the 3 Koki had no idea, wanted to see if Koki's mind changed
In an hour and a half? XD
I want to engage with who's in with me
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Post Post #1415 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:14 pm

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In post 1305, Gimli wrote: VOTE: malakittens

I'm gonna just park here I think

lorne/std non entities as of late

pedit: why is mala town by default?
I am insanely bored by this game. Feels like everyone is just going in circles
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Post Post #1416 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:14 pm

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And I still have no idea why you scumread me, I've asked you before and you haven't answered
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Post Post #1417 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:15 pm

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Well except for you. You're just kinda standing there
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1418 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:16 pm

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I don't mind being hanged day 5, but with how sure you are that I'm a follower I'm gonna be dead around day 3, and that's not enough playtime
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Post Post #1419 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:20 pm

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I kind of just want the day to end at this point, I feel like I'm just tunneling my reads harder and harder.

I still think Gimli is a pretty terrible lim, I think the way he's played is the kind of inconsistency that comes more often from passionate town than scum with an agenda.

I still don't think Kawaii is town, but I think other people sound scummy and I'm happy to entertain the possibility that I'm just really tunneled.


I didn't like Mala's reaction to Gimli at all, I feel like when someone calls you out as a TPR people react in several different ways. I think the towny way to react, regardless of whether you'reTPR or not, is to kind of play into it, like giving a wink emoji or joking about your vig target or something.
I think Mala's reaction was pretty scummy, like Mala seemed really annoyed in a really obviously "I'm a TPR" type way. I get that this may seem unhelpful to talk about, but it was imo so blatant that there's no chance anyone missed it, so I'm just going to talk about it. I basically feel like if you are what you're softing it doesn't make sense because you would not want to actually react in that way, and it didn't feel at all like a VT trying to take a bullet, so I think it was just scummy.

I thought STD's reaction to Gimli a few pages ago was pretty good, I got the vibe from it that they actually believed what they were saying and weren't defending themselves just for the sake of defending themselves.

I really, really, really don't like kokichi's continual defence of "I literally can't be Kira" because it relies on the premise that followers would have just hard defended them facing an early D1, and the fact that no one did is clearing.
I don't really think this is something kokichi actually believes so it just reads as false.

Other than that, my non updated reads are that I think black and lorne are town and everyone else is null.
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Post Post #1420 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:21 pm

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In post 1415, Lorne Malvo wrote:
In post 1305, Gimli wrote: VOTE: malakittens

I'm gonna just park here I think

lorne/std non entities as of late

pedit: why is mala town by default?
I am insanely bored by this game. Feels like everyone is just going in circles
I'm not bored but definitely agree with the circles.
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Post Post #1421 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:21 pm

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In post 1419, Vanderscamp wrote: I kind of just want the day to end at this point, I feel like I'm just tunneling my reads harder and harder.

I still think Gimli is a pretty terrible lim, I think the way he's played is the kind of inconsistency that comes more often from passionate town than scum with an agenda.

I still don't think Kawaii is town, but I think other people sound scummy and I'm happy to entertain the possibility that I'm just really tunneled.


I didn't like Mala's reaction to Gimli at all, I feel like when someone calls you out as a TPR people react in several different ways. I think the towny way to react, regardless of whether you'reTPR or not, is to kind of play into it, like giving a wink emoji or joking about your vig target or something.
I think Mala's reaction was pretty scummy, like Mala seemed really annoyed in a really obviously "I'm a TPR" type way. I get that this may seem unhelpful to talk about, but it was imo so blatant that there's no chance anyone missed it, so I'm just going to talk about it. I basically feel like if you are what you're softing it doesn't make sense because you would not want to actually react in that way, and it didn't feel at all like a VT trying to take a bullet, so I think it was just scummy.

I thought STD's reaction to Gimli a few pages ago was pretty good, I got the vibe from it that they actually believed what they were saying and weren't defending themselves just for the sake of defending themselves.

I really, really, really don't like kokichi's continual defence of "I literally can't be Kira" because it relies on the premise that followers would have just hard defended them facing an early D1, and the fact that no one did is clearing.
I don't really think this is something kokichi actually believes so it just reads as false.

Other than that, my non updated reads are that I think black and lorne are town and everyone else is null.
I also think you are town and sheeping you on Kawaii
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Post Post #1422 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:22 pm

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It is kind of unreal how we still have 2 RL days before the gameday ends by deadline.
not a person, just a doll~
this one refers to itself in the third person
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Post Post #1423 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:22 pm

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VOTE: Malakittens

E-2 I think?
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Post Post #1424 (ISO) » Thu Mar 09, 2023 1:23 pm

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In post 1420, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 1415, Lorne Malvo wrote:
In post 1305, Gimli wrote: VOTE: malakittens

I'm gonna just park here I think

lorne/std non entities as of late

pedit: why is mala town by default?
I am insanely bored by this game. Feels like everyone is just going in circles
I'm not bored but definitely agree with the circles.
It's the classic:
- someone gets pushed
- they make a defense
- arguing ensues
- someone is eventually convinced that the guy being pushed is town
- they push someone else
- repeat

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