Mini 2332: A Mid-scummer Nights Dream II | GG

[Black]

I both loved and hated this game

I feel that. I really enjoyed our hydra but I think we were also a large part in why town lost, so it's mixed feelings haha

Hopefully we can play again

[Prism]

This is literally the first time in a decade that I really got to just enjoy the game without caring so much about the result.

I never really -mind- losing in the sense that I always tried my best, learned from the errors, and accepted when I wasn't good enough. This one was different in that I really wasn't that invested in winning and was just along for the ride. I tried things out but didn't try to move mountains. It was really nice.

[Dannflor]

fun game to watch

wp scum

[Ydrasse]

sorry

[Black]

sorry

Don't be please. You tried to find me as town and just couldn't and that's because I made it too hard for you to

[Dannflor]

that was a brutal f3, i did not envy ydrasse’s position

[Sunflower]

holy moly hi dannflor!!!!!!!

[Hu Tao]

Thanks for hosting!

[Enchant]

So Ydrasse didn't read role PM.

[Sunflower]

i played very sloppy this game and am not very happy with my play at all but im glad we made it through in the end

thanks for modding it was a cool theme!

[Black]

i played very sloppy this game and am not very happy with my play at all but im glad we made it through in the end

thanks for modding it was a cool theme!

Ehh I think you played super well. I think you're extremely good at tapping into a townie mindset and it really comes though in the way you write. Very deceiving and well done as usual

[Black]

I can't sleep so I'm just commentating on everything

[Black]

So Ydrasse didn't read role PM.

What does this mean

[Ydrasse]

my role activated when i was visited for the first time by mafia
i guess i should have had an innocent on you because you neighborized me or whatever and it didn't immediately trigger when i was added but i didn't interpret it like that at all
i guess it's my fault for not asking about how night action resolution happened but it made sense to me that if i was targeted it would be announced after the night ended and not like. at the start of a night.

[Sunflower]

i accept constructive criticism. btw. in fact i encourage constructive criticism.

[Prism]

i accept constructive criticism. btw. in fact i encourage constructive criticism.

Spoiler: Wall

My read on fire had many counterintuitive and interlocking parts.

First, the idea I could possibly be reaction testing was wild. I always mean what I say, even if I have clear conceptions of infirmities & their prospective implications backing up the words. I don't bluff reads or reasoning, and I play them instantly without any strategic withholding. After spending my first four years messing around with a variety of tools, this is a strategy I set in 2014 and basically haven't touched since.

Second, I in fact reaction tested you and bluffed it. My entire reasoning after the unvote was completely made up. I was at the jazz bar, saw Jupiter's reasoning briefly while getting a drink, but missed the bulk of yours. It was chaotic, my attention short and split around, so my literacy was low. I thought "Terrible read and fire shouldn't have let it go without comment." I saw fire's actual reasoning a bit later. I didn't like it but it was no longer worst of all time territory, so I just unvoted.

Third, after thinking about explaining my silly skimming, I decided that I would spice up my decade-old meta and be an old dog trying a new trick. (Or rather, revisiting an even older one.) While I hated fire's return vote and the lack of reevaluation, I decided to retroactively frame my initial vote as a reaction to fire and not Jupiter. I took a very sharp interrogative approach that was 80% bullshit, and I concocted the Dragon comparison to directly tie in a personal expectation.

Fire esponded to my critique of the "surgical" point by contrasting it with a holistic read, but I already knew what fire originally meant from the start. I didn't mind retroactively fitting the square block in the round hole because it also gave me a good side door into pointing out my actual meta difference and seeing how fire evaluated it.

I think that strong meta break experiment was fun and successful, but passed over the chance to capitalize. I knew playing more aggressively would likely yield a decisive result, but I sacrificed the advantage and decided to play it slower and low-effort for the sake of my larger stylistic goals. I don't regret that choice.

Fire probably already knows and rightfully never cared, but if it is helpful the night posting from when I was killed was an instant scumread.

[Prism]

For Dragon, you wrote a wall on me at some point Day 1. You mixed up the timeline of various posts, which makes the bulk of the argument collapse in on itself. I didn't point it out because I was curious to see what would happen if I didn't, and the answer was nothing.

I intended to point out the error and address the remaining debris on Day 2 and since, but I'm lazy and currently in a time crunch.

[Prism]

All of that is basically off of month+ old memories at this point so sorry if there are errors, hopefully you get the gist anyway if there are.

[Enchant]

i accept constructive criticism. btw. in fact i encourage constructive criticism.

YOU DIDN'T VOTE FOR FAST NIGHT

*YELLS LOUDLY*

[Prism]

For Dragon, you wrote a wall on me at some point Day 1. You mixed up the timeline of various posts, which makes the bulk of the argument collapse in on itself. I didn't point it out because I was curious to see what would happen if I didn't, and the answer was nothing.

I intended to point out the error and address the remaining debris on Day 2 and since, but I'm lazy and currently in a time crunch.

This is 608. Might be a fun exercise to revisit if you get bored. The debris I'm remembering appears to be from a previous post about my meta comparison. Doing the legwork, ie. pulling and contextualizing quotes, to address the rationality of my position is definitely too much excavation right now for a purely academic exercise. The strength of my belief in the conclusion's accuracy, distinct from my belief in its rationality, was always a narrow and half-hearted commitment waiting for more information.

[ActionDan]

gg scum wp. Fun game. Curious about dreams

[Alisae]

I am quitting the game

[Kyoko Kirigiri]

This is literally the first time in a decade that I really got to just enjoy the game without caring so much about the result.

I never really -mind- losing in the sense that I always tried my best, learned from the errors, and accepted when I wasn't good enough. This one was different in that I really wasn't that invested in winning and was just along for the ride. I tried things out but didn't try to move mountains. It was really nice.

I also don't care about losing. win or lose this game was the same for me. but I disagree on everything else. This was so painful to play or watch. when I got flipped mod said the nightmare ended for kyoko and it was literally the case

a true reminder to why I don't play this game and prefer modding

[DragonEater70]

my role activated when i was visited for the first time by mafia
i guess i should have had an innocent on you because you neighborized me or whatever and it didn't immediately trigger when i was added but i didn't interpret it like that at all
i guess it's my fault for not asking about how night action resolution happened but it made sense to me that if i was targeted it would be announced after the night ended and not like. at the start of a night.

TBH the mods said in the dead thread that it was a clear but I don't think I'd interpret it as a clear either because isn't the neighborizer a day action?

[DragonEater70]

Thanks for modding, Morph! What a crazy and epic game this was.

My only regret this game was letting Aureal's AtE convince me to cop her instead of Von Payne. But it's the kind of mistake you can only know is a mistake after the fact, I think.