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Conception | Benediction Vacuum

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:19 pm

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Conception

Benediction
Vacuum


The disciples of Invocation claim that they're preserving the balance.
But that's where they're wrong.
For to be silent in the face of Malediction's disciples is to let them trumph.
And Benediction saw that.
So you rose to ensure that it would never happen.
And since Invocation and their disciples never bothered to aid you, they shall fall too.

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Abilities
  • Each Night, you may select a concept to invoke your auspices on, including one of you (though you can't self-target).
  • Under normal circumstances, that concept will be confirmed to not be a disciple of
    Malediction
    and be cured from Poison, resulting in the message,
    Dark flees from ; They are not a disciple of
    Malediction
    .

  • If both you and the disciples of
    Malediction
    chose the same concept or if a disciple of
    Malediction
    was chosen, nothing will happen.
  • You also have a factional conditional killing ability, which serves as a usual kill if not used on
    Malediction
    , where it instead works as an Announcing Poisoner.
  • Kills will be flavoured as deletions.

Roles
Spoiler: Diversion

Salutations, you are a manifestation of
Diversion
!

Role Abilities:
  • Benediction (Passive)
    : As a disciple of
    Benediction
    with , you have access to a vacuum located here, where you will receive knowledge of your factional ability.
  • Diversion (Active)
    : As a manifestation of
    Diversion
    , every Night, you may attempt to redirect all actions taken by another concept that Night to another of your choice.
Win Condition:
  • You win if at least one disciple of
    Benediction
    remains and all other concepts are erased (or if nothing can prevent the same).
Confirm by posting in the
Benediction
vacuum or by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.

Spoiler: Confirmation

Salutations, you are a manifestation of
Confirmation
!

Role Abilities:
  • Benediction (Passive)
    : As a disciple of
    Benediction
    with , you have access to a vacuum located here, where you will receive knowledge of your factional ability.
  • Confirmation (Active)
    : As a manifestation of
    Confirmation
    , every Night, you may attempt to check if your action was successful on another concept or not.
Win Condition:
  • You win if at least one disciple of
    Benediction
    remains and all other concepts are erased (or if nothing can prevent the same).
Confirm by posting in the
Benediction
vacuum or by replying to this PM with your role and alignment.


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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:37 pm

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Well I'd hazard a guess that Malediction has a similar night kill that poisons us instead of outright kills.

Also. I uh... I have an action I can use to check if my action on a player is successful. Which I'm not... immediately sure about the usefulness of.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:49 pm

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I suppose it's useful for fake claiming actions to have actions on a player that I can claim actually did something or not based on if the action would have worked.

A good fake claim I suppose would be claiming Confirmation as a sort of cop role.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Mar 29, 2023 6:53 pm

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In post 0, Narration wrote: If both you and the disciples of Malediction
chose the same concept or if a disciple of Malediction
was chosen, nothing will happen.
Invoking auspices it looks like Malediction might also have, for that matter.
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:28 am

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It’s too early in the morning for me to figure out what’s going on
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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:29 am

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In post 2, Rautherdir wrote: I suppose it's useful for fake claiming actions to have actions on a player that I can claim actually did something or not based on if the action would have worked.

A good fake claim I suppose would be claiming Confirmation as a sort of cop role.
I don’t think you should fakeclaim. Checker is a perfectly fine role to claim. Who would think scum has such a weak role?
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:31 am

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(Also that means you’re doing all the night kills)
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:41 am

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Ah, so that's what my role is, good to know. And fair enough, I can just claim that then if needed instead of trying to fake something.
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:45 am

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At least multiball means I can look town easier lol
It’s been forever since I played scum
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:52 am

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Meanwhile my last game on this account was in mid 2020. I didn't use any alts for about that long as well.
I am very glad I looked at the mafiascum rules again though before getting into this game.
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:01 am

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Checker and Redirector though, huh. If we can find Malediction and get them down to one player that means we control both night kills, assuming no other abilities interfere. Combining Checker with Invoking auspices should let me see the reason why it gives no result a bit better.
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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:11 am

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It isn't ever stated in the sample VT role or in the setup guide that Benediction is a threat to town/Invocation. We are confirmed to exist as an informed minority but that is it. (Of course, we are a threat to town, but they don't have to know that)
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2023 3:14 am

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I mean we definitely shouldn't claim at the start but I can probably hint at it being a possibility.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:27 pm

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Random thing that I forgot to mention. Curing poison would work so that it protects if the target was poisoned that Night or the previous one.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 5:27 am

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A good night 1 target for our auspices is Abnegation I think, as per viewtopic.php?p=13715075#p13715075
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 6:13 am

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Claiming early cause it is what I would have done as Invocation.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 6:53 am

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It’s ok now I get to just call you town and move on.

Although, do refrain from going “benediction” this and “benediction” that. Focusing on only one scum team in multiball is a scum tell.
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 6:57 am

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My excuse for that is that it's first alphabetically. And I will be moving away from focusing on it.
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:03 am

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viewtopic.php?p=13715514#p13715514
This... mentioning about preserving the balance might reference flavor that only the informed have. (As in the opening post to this thread) They might be Malediction or Mason?
Though it is also quite possible that they are just coming up to that explanation based on what information is public.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 2:26 pm

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Well, if I can land myself solidly in the town core while having a low power role claimed that should be quite good.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:19 pm

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Yeah I'll support you whenever I have a chance.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Mon Apr 03, 2023 10:36 pm

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I don’t like bussing this early but wow we only have 3 days left

You might as well try “ok if I’m being limmed today then so be it” and write some bs about your readlist as a final ditch effort
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:16 am

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Well I'll go ahead and do that. The proper play I should have done was to mention Benediction being benign once and then never brought it up again.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:24 am

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Tbh going all “ngl it doesn’t make sense what I said when I look at it now. It made sense then” and appealing to cognitive dissonance without actually saying the word could work too
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Tue Apr 04, 2023 5:25 am

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Although defeatism + long readlist is much more effective if you can pull it off
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