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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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Of course Im still alive.
Like I said, mason.
Annoyingly my investment in this game wasnt as much as it should have been but brains be like.One penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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Annoyingly its red were looking for here, not green so I can claim my innocence that way.
Diversion and deviation are basically identical.
I know confirmstion doesnt match furtives claim, but I have a feeling Im ditching your claims here. There is a mirror of sorts hereOne penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Hello
I got a flyer last night for what it's worth.
The Keeper, can you explain why you're insisting on calling yourself a Mason when Flavor Leaf literally said they confirmed with the mod that you weren't Masons?-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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This game is definitely winnable. I need to do some reading-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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I don't know why I always expect ISOing flipped scum to tell me clearly who their partner is-
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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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Because my gut is good.
Sure its full of spiders and flies but still...
Do me a favour though and look at it mechancially. Come back when you have.One penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Mechanically it's a weird FV vs a weird Neighbour, nothing really to sayIn post 1780, The Keeper wrote: Because my gut is good.
Sure its full of spiders and flies but still...
Do me a favour though and look at it mechancially. Come back when you have.-
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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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Keep going... Because rn youre my sus for The Lamb.One penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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Feysal also needs to turn up and be convincing because the lack of them isnt exactly convincing me theyre IsaacOne penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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When I look at interactions with AD, he never really talked to the Keeper but went and found their soft of Affiliation.
He talked to Feysal a bit, in a way that could be partnered possibly, maintained a townlean on them.
I don't know really.-
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Feysal Mafia Scum
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My time has been otherwise occupied recently, but it is the last day and I should make time for this. That said, there is not much new to say. The Keeper has had no interaction with ActionDan to speak of that could inform us, and Furtive has had no direct interaction either. But what I said yesterday about him trying to divert to Hugir while ActionDan pushed Abnegation still holds - that does not look like they would be partners. And if Hugir told the truth about trying to execute town yesterday, that was Furtive. All of this would add up to the Keeper being the last scum, except for one thing - Flavor Leaf was killed. He believed Furtive was scum, so why would the Keeper kill him?
There are also game mechanics, although they may not be of help to us now. Yesterday I had a hunch that Hugir had lied about redirecting ActionDan on night three, because I could not see how it would cause a conflict in action resolution - the result should have been nothing either way. Hugir claimed they had redirected ActionDan to Furtive instead, and this apparently messed up something. What I wonder is, why did Enchant live that night? ActionDan should definitely have killed him, especially if he knew Furtive would live because he was his partner.-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Right now I'm leaning towards The Keeper being mafia due to lack of interaction with AD, as well as AD admitting that the announcing check was Malediction's ability. I don't see why you wouldn't self-target with that.-
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Narration he/himGoonhe/him
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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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Because at the time, I could have been green...
Every ability the scum have had, have had a counterpart
Affiliation is blue
No green or red affiliation flipped.
Tell me sweet glance, what counterpart would I be?
Why do you live when loverised with Enchant is my question.One penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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Huh that was feysal, it matters to you both anyway.One penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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... im not well myself again - it was furtive(whoo burnout) but the points stand to you both.
One of us is proven a liar, and it isnt me.One penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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I said already, I'm a 1-way Loveriser. Did you really not know I said that?In post 1788, The Keeper wrote: Because at the time, I could have been green...
Every ability the scum have had, have had a counterpart
Affiliation is blue
No green or red affiliation flipped.
Tell me sweet glance, what counterpart would I be?
Why do you live when loverised with Enchant is my question.-
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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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I know you said that.
Thats not the impression you gave.
Explain to me how hiding behind someone is town? As thats what your role reads as to me.One penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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What are the names of your roles?
Im struggling to find them... Ive given i have AffiliationOne penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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That's not what my role does, the point of it is that I can tie myself to a player I suspect, so that if I die, they do too. I chose Enchant. On Night 2 I felt like I was a reasonable NK target and wanted to use my ability.In post 1792, The Keeper wrote: I know you said that.
Thats not the impression you gave.
Explain to me how hiding behind someone is town? As thats what your role reads as to me.
As for the impression I gave, if I had come straight out as one way, I could have been killed to take out me and Enchant in one night, which would have been way worse. I said as much in the PT I had with Enchant.
Also, my role name is Captivation.-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Feysal, anything to say right now?-
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The Keeper They/Them Fae/FaerGoonThey/Them Fae/Faer
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So left remaining we have captivation, affiliation and propagation.
Propagation would give confirmation.
Captivation I cannot see as a town ability.
Affiliation is confirmed by affiliation and could likewise fit the spot, admittedly.One penny... two pennies... three pennies... OO A NICKEL! Now I can get More Options!!-
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Feysal Mafia Scum
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Actually, you being green would have been very unexpected after the way Rautherdir shaded your slot after being hammered. Why you were investigated remains something of a mystery. Self-targeting remains one explanation, or being targeted by a partner. It could also have been intended to frame you, but it would have been very early in the game for such a long term plan. Or, perhaps the investigation was not aimed at you at all, and it was somehow redirected, since we don't know what ActionDan did. Or even what Hugir did, though we have their claims.In post 1788, The Keeper wrote: Because at the time, I could have been green...
I do have one question for you. You said you thought you were a reasonable nightkill target, but it did not seem that way to me. I thought you were in the POE list at the time, more likely to be executed than killed. So, why did you think you would be killed?In post 1795, furtiveglance wrote: Feysal, anything to say right now?-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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No paranoia of a particular player killing me if that's what you're asking - I just thought I was fairly townread amid of a lack of UTRs. Maybe that perception was wrong.In post 1797, Feysal wrote:
Actually, you being green would have been very unexpected after the way Rautherdir shaded your slot after being hammered. Why you were investigated remains something of a mystery. Self-targeting remains one explanation, or being targeted by a partner. It could also have been intended to frame you, but it would have been very early in the game for such a long term plan. Or, perhaps the investigation was not aimed at you at all, and it was somehow redirected, since we don't know what ActionDan did. Or even what Hugir did, though we have their claims.In post 1788, The Keeper wrote: Because at the time, I could have been green...
I do have one question for you. You said you thought you were a reasonable nightkill target, but it did not seem that way to me. I thought you were in the POE list at the time, more likely to be executed than killed. So, why did you think you would be killed?In post 1795, furtiveglance wrote: Feysal, anything to say right now?-
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furtiveglance He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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RIght now I'm leaning towards voting for The Keeper; I'm seeing a lack of thought and a persistent agenda.
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