Micro 1075: The Coalition of Imaginary Creatures (Game over)

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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:36 am

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V
OTECOUNT
1.003
E
LIMINATION
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OTES
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LAYER
N
AME
C
URRENT
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OTES
Keychain (1)
northsidegal
patchwork (1)
Deltabreedy
KawaiiKame (1)
Keychain
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None
northsidegal (0)
None
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None
Dunnstral (0)
None
Bingle (0)
None
NOT VOTING:
patchwork, KawaiiKame, Not_Mafia, Dunnstral, Bingle
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OALITION
Keychain (4)
Keychain, Dunnstral, northsidegal, Umlaut
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None
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Deltabreedy, Dunnstral, Keychain, northsidegal, Umlaut
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None
northsidegal (1)
northsidegal
Deltabreedy (0)
None
Umlaut (4)
Umlaut, northsidegal, Dunnstral, Keychain
Dunnstral (5)
Dunnstral, Keychain, northsidegal, Umlaut, Deltabreedy
Bingle (2)
Bingle, Deltabreedy
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lock in a Coalition and 5 to eliminate.
Deadline: (expired on 2023-04-06 14:49:20)
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I am really bad at imaginary creatures
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:37 am

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I mean it's not a hard definite read on Patch, you'll notice I didn't coalition them, it's just something that makes me lean that way. Agree to disagree on whether it's AI at all.
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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 3:38 am

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In post 99, Keychain wrote:
In post 93, Umlaut wrote: Arguing a bunch with Delta and saying his arguments against NSG make no sense, and then saying he's town. It seems like Patch is just giving their thoughts instead of trying to push some specific position or idea.
I guess I don't find this particularly AI personally - it could also be that Delta is one of the players patch is familiar with here so it's easier to engage with him over his arguments but separately from whatever read they end up with.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:01 am

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HURT: Keychain

I am a bit concerned that I don't like some of your posts and I feel better about patchwork and KawaiiKame than I do about you right now. I am reading KawaiiKame's posts differently than you are (they should explain what they are doing though)
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 5:41 am

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I'm also a bit concerned that you don't like some of my posts! How are you reading KawaiiKame's posts differently? In looking through their completed games I didn't see any scum rolls, so their pop in behaviour seems pretty consistent with newscum "oh no I don't know how to pretend to be engaged". Unless I'm mistaken about their experience level, in which case someone feel free to correct me.
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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:27 am

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I think that they don't think that other people will agree to put them into the coalition for their contributions so far, and simply put in who they thought was town - and I agree with their thoughts on who is town
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:52 am

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That might be true, especially the first point, but it can be true whether they're town or scum - and yes of course you agree with them, it's your coalition! but it still doesn't really deal with the fact that they didn't hang around and didn't ask any questions, just popped in and out with the one comment and the coalition sheep, which is where my read on them comes from
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:34 am

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In post 105, Dunnstral wrote: I think that they don't think that other people will agree to put them into the coalition for their contributions so far, and simply put in who they thought was town - and I agree with their thoughts on who is town
Wouldn't a better solution to this as town be for them to just make more contributions, rather than opening with the assumption they won't be townread?
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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:49 am

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In reading the game I came in agreement with the aggressive coalition philosophy, put who you see as town with the highest chance of getting into the coalition as town, reading everything I came to see everyone within the coalition as town, since that's the path of least resistance to town victory in my eyes I took the gambit, I don't see myself getting into the coalition but all my townreads do

The way this game is played is distinct to any game I played since town in the coalition is an instant town win, in this stage I only need to see who is town, all I see as town is in the coalition except me

pedit: The best way to contribute in this is with my coalition vote and win, I didn't know what to say b4, all I knew was to vote in who I saw as town into the coalition to advance the game
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:33 am

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In post 98, Bingle wrote: I have good news and bad news. I’m not going to post game relevant content tonight. Also, my cousin’s cancer is in remission.
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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:38 am

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In post 98, Bingle wrote: I have good news and bad news. I’m not going to post game relevant content tonight. Also, my cousin’s cancer is in remission.
Ayyyyy that's excellent news :DDDDD, hope remission becomes recovery!
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:41 am

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HEAL: patchwork is this how it works
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:41 am

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In post 111, patchwork wrote: HEAL: patchwork is this how it works
oh cool
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:50 am

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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:50 am

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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:50 am

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In post 111, patchwork wrote: HEAL: patchwork is this how it works
Yes
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:52 am

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In post 113, Deltabreedy wrote: HEAL: Keychain
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:00 am

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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:02 am

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In post 116, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 113, Deltabreedy wrote: HEAL: Keychain
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I haven't seen the tag like that, ty with believing in me : )
what is this post kawaii
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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:05 am

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The thank you doesn't sit well with me. Might go back into it, but I'm comfier without them in it for now.
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:07 am

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Why? It's how I show appreciation, it's fair if you don't want me in now tho
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:07 am

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In post 118, patchwork wrote:
In post 116, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 113, Deltabreedy wrote: HEAL: Keychain
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I haven't seen the tag like that, ty with believing in me : )
what is this post kawaii
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:20 am

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In post 121, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 118, patchwork wrote:
In post 116, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 113, Deltabreedy wrote: HEAL: Keychain
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I haven't seen the tag like that, ty with believing in me : )
what is this post kawaii
It's my post patch
sorry wow i'm just like
never have i really seen this behavior from you in any of our games
and it's weird how you're like "thanks for believing in me!" when like. one person is scumreading you
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:46 am

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In post 122, patchwork wrote:
In post 121, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 118, patchwork wrote:
In post 116, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 113, Deltabreedy wrote: HEAL: Keychain
Kawaii
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I haven't seen the tag like that, ty with believing in me : )
what is this post kawaii
It's my post patch
sorry wow i'm just like
never have i really seen this behavior from you in any of our games
and it's weird how you're like "thanks for believing in me!" when like. one person is scumreading you
I was just scumread by Keychain then Delta comes out of the blue to vote me in the coallition, do you see why I'm appreciative? Someone just town read me right after me being scumread, I was not expecting anyone to town read me so when Delta did it was a pleasant surprise, I do see why it catches you off guard tho if you haven't seen this b4
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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:53 am

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There explicitly is a decent town motivation for not being in your proposed coalition. I very much doubt Kame knows what it is or believes it.

Dunn's chainsaw of Key feels off. I don't think it's damning of Dunn, but I do think it's a strong reason to believe Dunn/Kame is not a S/S pair. For this reason, I would like 0-1 of them in the coalition. Dunn, what specifically about Key's reasoning on Kame do you think is scum indicative. I get not agreeing, but why is it scummy?

I'm interested to hear nsg's thoughts on nsg townreads.

I'm fairly certain on my Delta townread at this point. His play has all the hallmarks of newbtown dropped into an established lobby. Yes, I understand the previous experience, but I think that would, if anything, increase the amount of trepidation about being this open and gung ho with reads when there's clearly a lot of baggage in the thread. Contrast patchwerk, who's posting seems very careful. I think either Delta is very confident in his scumgame or just town here, and I'm just not feeling big ego energy.

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