In post 2198, Roden wrote:Shadow why are you so convinced NM is scum?
Math why are you so convinced Koba is scum?
It's essentially the entire progression of the slot:
Chaos:
In post 1955, ShadowGirl wrote: In post 634, ShadowGirl wrote:ChaosOmega
In post 429, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: GuiltyLion E-2
I also scumread NK15, the tone in their posting feels fabricated almost to the point like I'm reading a robot. The hyperfocus on the 1 scum/1 traitor thing is silly. It feels really unlikely that GL and NK15 are partnered given NK15's shift onto the wagon, so I think I'm wrong on at least one of my top reads here.
E-2 vote on GL while scumreading NK15 who hasn’t posted in many pages. Would it not make sense to withhold vote and get more info from people (particularly inactive) before an elimination? Also, if NK15 is your scumread, then you should field some question his way as well? Also gives an easy out if GL flips town and to move onto NK15 D2 that what you're sure of is that you have at least one read wrong.
Obviously now with hindsight of alignments, we know both of these players were town alignment. So if GL got voted out D1 they could just say they were wrong about them and go right to NK15.
They then voted Gamma based what is similar to their own reason of being able to pivot from a GL town flip:
In post 617, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: Gamma
The L-1 vote with no conviction even though he's mentioned GL as a suspect reads bad, like he knows GL will flip town and is already trying to pivot. It coming right after GL's post that my vote is +town for bravery is a funny juxtaposition. Have to go, will be back on later tonight.
They then pretty heavily lurked, which finally culminated on a compromise vote on Meuh but it didn't seem like they really believed in it/scumread them, so it's an easy out when Meuh flips town.
In post 1344, ChaosOmega wrote:Apologies, life events have not lined up well with this game. If I need to be prodded again, I'm going to ask for replacement.
It looks like the wagons are between Meuh and HEM and no one's interested in Gamma/Enchant, so I'll make my vote useful.
VOTE: Meuh
Greeting:
In general, the entirety of D2 was basic mechtalk, and gave zero actual reads on anyone, which then extended onto D3.
In post 1926, ShadowGirl wrote:Greeting pushed Dwlee based no actual read information. They could not give me any reasoning as to why they believed DkKoba's claim, as if they knew Dwlee was going to flip scum and could be certain of the town cred so they had no need to actually say anything.
There's no need to actually give any reads information on Dwlee, because whatever they might say can be picked apart as to whether it feels like a genuine thought or not, and they know that the flip itself will 'vindicate' them because their scum partner, Dwlee will flip scum.
NM:
Have they actually posted any productive content since they have replaced in? It feels like they border on a troll account as it is, but if they were town they could give even... a little bit to try and be productive.
And given the game state of the stall:
In post 2167, ShadowGirl wrote:I don't see how me and NM could be TvsT when I have basically staked my life on this flip. The easy route if NM was also town was for NM to get voted out and I nearly for certain would get voted out the following day. (Or vice versa of me getting voted out as town today, but it's a much a stronger case to leave me and vote me out the following day given how adamant I've been about NM's slot). I don't see how NM isn't in the scum team given the current stall of wagons. So even if you do think it's DkKoba in the scum team, it still is safer play as town to go after NM first (if I get voted out today).
A greater elaboration about NM+tictac is at
#2022. In light of the competing wagons that were happening (tictac's vote on MathBlade, now the DkKoba wagon created by MathBlade, or DkKoba saying they would be interested in a tictac wagon), basically everyone has the incentive for 1) NM not to get voted out today and/or 2) for the resolution of NM/me not to happen today and leave this uncertain situation for the following day and then + bonus of mislimming a different town. So I know it could be NM + someone else, but I don't see how NM is not included in the pair. As long as this post is I tried to keep it concise, but if you just ISO me I have greater elaborated on my thoughts on this slot, or I'm happy to speak more on a particular point.