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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:16 am

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Awesome Pants: Why do you think Armlx is leading the town?

My perspective on it: He's just trying to throw out an analysis of the setup, which isn't a bad thing.

VOTE: Windkirby


Why would you be that angry of being accused on day one? Am I just misreading sarcasm there?
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:41 pm

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Mod, can we get prods on xyzzy and Bogre (the latter has been replaced elsewhere BTW)


Or we can just run the scum chat plan and quick lynch xyzzy in 8 seconds. :P
I'll prod xyzzy; Bogre just posted.

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Awesome Pants - 2 (Sleepy Panda, Darox)
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2008 8:58 pm

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Bogre wrote:Awesome Pants: Why do you think Armlx is leading the town?

My perspective on it: He's just trying to throw out an analysis of the setup, which isn't a bad thing.
I don't. Well, he is, but only to a small degree which comes from the content of the posts and was pretty much unavoidable.

The question was there, to effectively 'lead' darox into analysing armlx's motives. I think with those sorts of questions, someone protown will be more likely to critically think about the question and answer accordingly, whereas scum might try and 'jump' onto an easy bandwagon that's set out for them. Of course, having said that, scum also like to defend town members so that if they are lynched they look protown.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:13 pm

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That looks to be a pretty useless post.

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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:25 pm

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Yeah, I suppose it is a bit wishy washy in the way I've worded it, but it's not always
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what they do, but rather the way in which they do it. For example, I liked the way you justified your answer to that question but your most recent post comes off as a bit 'OMGUS' which I do find a bit funny.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:25 pm

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Err, EDWOP: scummy*.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:24 am

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Awesome Pants wrote:Yeah, I suppose it is a bit wishy washy in the way I've worded it, but it's not always
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what they do, but rather the way in which they do it. For example, I liked the way you justified your answer to that question but your most recent post comes off as a bit 'OMGUS' which I do find a bit scummy.
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Awesome Pants wrote:The question was there, to effectively 'lead' darox into analysing armlx's motives. I think with those sorts of questions, someone protown will be more likely to critically think about the question and answer accordingly, whereas scum might try and 'jump' onto an easy bandwagon that's set out for them. Of course, having said that, scum also like to defend town members so that if they are lynched they look protown.
I think most of the questions you asked at the start didn't really help much. You seem to be really keen on how scum or town would react to your "strategical" questions. I don't see how you can deduce anything substantial from them though. What have you gathered on the four people you asked questions to?
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:45 am

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To me, your most recent posts appear more OMGUS than Darox's. He's the one voting you. I don't see you directing anything at Darox besides your first question on what he thinks of armlx leading.
How is his post even remotely close to the definition of OMGUS.
Yeah, I suppose it is a bit wishy washy in the way I've worded it, but it's not always just what they do, but rather the way in which they do it. For example, I liked the way you justified your answer to that question but your most recent post comes off as a bit 'OMGUS' which I do find a bit funny.
How is his post even remotely close to the definition of OMGUS.

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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:46 am

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EBWODP: First quote was Sleepy Panda, second was Awesome Pants.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:18 am

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armlx wrote:
To me, your most recent posts appear more OMGUS than Darox's. He's the one voting you. I don't see you directing anything at Darox besides your first question on what he thinks of armlx leading.
How is his post even remotely close to the definition of OMGUS.
It doesn't fit the definition exactly as stated in the wiki, but Pants is saying he finds Darox's recent posts scummy and all Darox has done was vote Pants. It's close enough to OMGUS from how I see it.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 8:44 am

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It doesn't fit the definition exactly as stated in the wiki, but Pants is saying he finds Darox's recent posts scummy and all Darox has done was vote Pants. It's close enough to OMGUS from how I see it.
He has a point though. He initiated the discussion as well.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 12:37 pm

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Hi, was without access when this began.

I'm willing to lynch based on something fairly baseless rather than random lynching, simply because random lynching in AITP is a fairly solid strategy.

Vote: windkirby


Coincedentally, mod, Bogre is also voting windkirby.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:01 pm

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Unvote, Vote Xyzzy


The only reason to lynch randomly in this game is to promote a cult win.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 2:20 pm

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One of the reasons you quickly and randomly lynch people in AITP is because you don't want to give away the king and throw the game to scum.

This is not an issue for the town in this game.
We can't lose the hunter, because if the current one dies a new one is made.
The game becomes like AITP except with scum/town reversed, but it does not start like it.

Only two people currently know who the cult recruiter is, and 6 people are (currently) trying to kill the cult recruiter or failing that, kill his cultists.

This looks to be stronger than Pants not random voting. Good enough to warrant a vote today.

Unvote, Vote Xyzzy
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 5:21 pm

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X wrote:I'm willing to lynch based on something fairly baseless rather than random lynching
What the heck?

unvote - vote: Xyzzy


We don't have to do either - we can base a lynch on something that appears scummy, like what you just said.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:26 pm

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xyzzy wrote:
Coincedentally, mod, Bogre is also voting windkirby.
Corrected in the prior count.

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xyzzy - 4 (windkirby, armlx, Darox, icemanE)
windkirby - 2 (Bogre, xyzzy)
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:52 am

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Remember, no claims this game. Claiming can only hurt the town.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:02 am

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Bogre wrote:Awesome Pants: Why do you think Armlx is leading the town?

My perspective on it: He's just trying to throw out an analysis of the setup, which isn't a bad thing.

VOTE: Windkirby


Why would you be that angry of being accused on day one? Am I just misreading sarcasm there?
Not angry, just observing the irony of a serious vote before the votee hasn't said anything yet.

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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:06 am

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In fact, taking it a step further. I think putting someone at L-1 on page three is ridiculous.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:15 pm

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armlx wrote:
Unvote, Vote Xyzzy


The only reason to lynch randomly in this game is to promote a cult win.
On day two or beyond, I agree. But today, we have the benefit that the recruitees do't know that they're going to be scum yet - a good strategy might be to have each player decide on an order of scumminess today - since the scum has one recruit, there'll be almost nothing to go on today, but tomorrow and beyond we can use the information about who no longer supports what to our advantage much more than in regular games.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:18 pm

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Hmm... an OMGUS reaction.

Your response doesn't do much to convince me I should move my vote...
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:27 pm

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xyzzy wrote:
armlx wrote:
Unvote, Vote Xyzzy


The only reason to lynch randomly in this game is to promote a cult win.
On day two or beyond, I agree. But today, we have the benefit that the recruitees do't know that they're going to be scum yet - a good strategy might be to have each player decide on an order of scumminess today - since the scum has one recruit, there'll be almost nothing to go on today, but tomorrow and beyond we can use the information about who no longer supports what to our advantage much more than in regular games.
Suggesting we should throw away the D1 lynch and let the cult grow bigger makes me happy with my vote.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:58 pm

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On day two or beyond, I agree. But today, we have the benefit that the recruitees do't know that they're going to be scum yet - a good strategy might be to have each player decide on an order of scumminess today - since the scum has one recruit, there'll be almost nothing to go on today, but tomorrow and beyond we can use the information about who no longer supports what to our advantage much more than in regular games.
Lol, so much wrong here. Just give the cult leader full info, make lynches set up ahead of time, etc.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:47 pm

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You know whats not cool? Not posting. People should stop doing that.

You know what is cool? Lynching people that come up with terrible strats that help the scumgroup. We should definitely do that.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:58 pm

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VC bumped to next page
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