Scummies 2008 Nominations! (Deadline: 1/15)


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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 10:33 am

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ooba wrote:Also nominate Nubigena for

Best Flavor Text (Paperback writer)


The flavor corresponded to the setup very well. Here is the first post and the Last lynch followed by the role pm post.
Seconded. destructor put a lot of effort into writing that and definitely deserves to be considered for this award.
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 11:10 am

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ooba wrote:Also nominate Nubigena for

Best Flavor Text (Paperback writer)


The flavor corresponded to the setup very well. Here is the first post and the Last lynch followed by the role pm post.
ooba wrote:Nominate Darkstalkers Mafia for

Most Enjoyable Game (Mini Theme)

Best Flavor Text (Paperback Writer)


Check out my Death scene post :) (The video)
Like ooba, I was in both games and Fourth/Third (or w/e they're at) both games. They were each awesome fun. I actually think the cult recruiter and scum had fun admitting to their guilt when caught in Darkstalkers :P
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Thu May 29, 2008 1:58 pm

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ooba wrote:Nominate Darkstalkers Mafia for

Most Enjoyable Game (Mini Theme)

Best Flavor Text (Paperback Writer)


Check out my Death scene post :) (The video)
Fifth both. Amazing game.
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2008 7:52 am

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Kinetic wrote:I'd like to nominate
rajrhcpfreak
for both
Best Setup
and
Most Enjoyable Game (Large [Free Market/Normal])
for the game The War to End All Freaktowns.

Although there were some glitches during the game because of the number of replacements, the amazing scope of this game should celebrated. More games should be as ambitious as this one.
Seconded. This game was truly amazing, and I enjoyed it a lot, even though I only got to play in 2 days of the game (got killed right after Day 1, replaced back in on like Day 6, got double-killed right after that...>_<).
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sat May 31, 2008 5:47 pm

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You still got to add it to the win column MOS :P.
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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:57 am

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ooba wrote:Nominate Darkstalkers Mafia for

Most Enjoyable Game (Mini Theme)

Best Flavor Text (Paperback Writer)


Check out my Death scene post :) (The video)
I would 6th this, but DR's Mafia 69 game was better..DR should be given mad props for his time and energy that he has put into both his games...this is why I pre-in on all games modded by DR.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:27 pm

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I nominate Oman for best SK for ATIP

viewtopic.php?t=8351

Before the rule about no king claims. He stated that farside with the king and unvoted. Only the guards would have known that. Fact was he was the assisgn who guessed right and won the game. Congrats
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:35 pm

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Nothing against Oman, but it looks to me like he won that game mostly due to a lucky guess on page 1. With all due respect, I
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:20 pm

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i wouldn't go as far as to oppose it, but i have to agree with SensFan. i think that it is highly likely that he would've been lynched if not for that post
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:40 pm

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SensFan wrote:Nothing against Oman, but it looks to me like he won that game mostly due to a lucky guess on page 1. With all due respect, I
oppose
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I wasn't a guard, so I don't know their though processes.

I'd say you read the full game if you haven't, where I had escaped being lynched at least once, and set up several lynches on others.

Really, this shits me, because I worked hard for that game, and now you're saying I won because I made one guess?
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:50 pm

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You made a guess who the king was, every other guard knows that you guessed right. Not knowing who the assassin is, it felt very safe to assume that you were a confirmed guard and that was why you said it.

So yes, you did win because you won your guess. :P The reason no one would lynch you was for said guess. So working hard was not really needed is what I believe it comes down to.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:00 pm

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Lucky or not, it was a ballsy move. I don't see the logic in refusing to reward a player who takes a big risk that ends up paying off. If it's not good enough to win the award then that will be borne out by the judges' decision.

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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:33 pm

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Oman wrote:
SensFan wrote:Nothing against Oman, but it looks to me like he won that game mostly due to a lucky guess on page 1. With all due respect, I
oppose
the nomination.
I wasn't a guard, so I don't know their though processes.

I'd say you read the full game if you haven't, where I had escaped being lynched at least once, and set up several lynches on others.

Really, this shits me, because I worked hard for that game, and now you're saying I won because I made one guess?
I would not be so arrogant as to make a statement such as that one without reading the entire thread.

Unfortunately, the rule about speculation only came in after you 'confirmed' yourself, and even then you got away with some speculation that more-or-less got Korlas modkilled. Heck, postgame, both other people in the final three said they pretty much overlooked all of the scummy things you did, because of that guess.

Now that I think about it, I think this situation is actually fairly similar to Martyr Mafia, in which I suicide-vigged N0, knowing that if I hit Town I would lose. Yes, it happened to pay off, but I don't consider it a brilliant move by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:45 am

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It's not the
Hardest Working SK
Scummy. It's not the
SK with the Best Thought Processes
Scummy. It's
Best SK
- and gambling page 1 and having it pay off big, even in a swingy setup like AITP, deserves credit where it's due. If the moderator had rolled a d20 and given Oman the name of a King if it came up 1, that'd be different...

I'll second Oman's nomination.
- there, now the judges can deal with it.
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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:55 am

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Sensfan wrote:I would not be so arrogant as to make a statement such as that one without reading the entire thread.
Good to know, my good man.
Sensfan wrote:Heck, postgame, both other people in the final three said they pretty much overlooked all of the scummy things you did, because of that guess.
Well, thats their fault :P
Sensfan wrote:Now that I think about it, I think this situation is actually fairly similar to Martyr Mafia, in which I suicide-vigged N0, knowing that if I hit Town I would lose. Yes, it happened to pay off, but I don't consider it a brilliant move by any stretch of the imagination.
I had the same thought when I saw your title, I trully had Fortuna Ex Deus in this situation. Although, I did do a lot of other work.

I managed to get the town to quicklynch, then stop quicklynching and give information, and then quicklynch again.
Mr. Flay wrote:It's not the Hardest Working SK Scummy. It's not the SK with the Best Thought Processes Scummy. It's Best SK - and gambling page 1 and having it pay off big, even in a swingy setup like AITP, deserves credit where it's due.
This is a good point, that I hadn't thought of. It probably won't compare to some of the SK work we'll see in the future in terms of planning, work, and brilliance, but in terms of effectivness,
its really grade A
it got the job done.
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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:37 am

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but in terms of effectivness, its really grade A
Stop bragging. Be humble and say no more. You are starting to come off as a self nom. Let the judges handle it from here.

Edit: Also why does it say I supported Farside's self nom a few pages back? I said I would accept the nomination and never said I was supporting it or self noming myself. I think someone took what I said a little out of context.
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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:07 am

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Whoa, I'm not bragging. I see how you might have interpreted it as such.
Sorry about that, I'd edit it if I could think of something to edit it too.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:22 am

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Its cool Oman, I suppose I understand you didn't mean to come off like that. Looking back at something I posted in january I guess I can see how it was taken in the context of me seconding a self nom. I should have worded that a little bit better.

And don't get me wrong Oman. I still think you did a pretty good job.
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:19 am

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I know it is a self nomination, but I'll throw this in for consideration. If people don't like it, just don't second/third/whatever it.

Nominate the Town of
DarkStalkers Mafia
for
Best Town Performance.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7687

Town did absolutely everything right in that game.
- Day 1 the SK was lynched on a small slip he did when the SK cop claimed.
- Night 1, the JOAT managed to block the vig miskill which prevented the vig from becoming a second SK.
- Day 2, the two jailkeepers were forced to claim. The town entered a counter claim situation, but managed to leave it without lynching either of the two (which would be disastrous, for the lynched one would flip jailkeeper and the other one would promptly be lynched/vigged next). A mafioso was lynched.
- Night 2, the JOAT correctly investigated the second mafia.
- Day 3, discussion led the town to narrow the number of possible cult leaders to a small set. The survivor was lynched, but he was not a pro-town role anyway.
- Night 3, the jailkeeper correctly guessed and blocked the cult leader.
- Day 4, the cult leader was caught in a lie and lynched. The last remaining mafia was quickly lynched Day 5.

This is just an overview, the game is chock full with good discussion among the townies, and in the end no townie was lynched.
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 5:39 am

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Mr. Flay wrote:It's not the
Hardest Working SK
Scummy. It's not the
SK with the Best Thought Processes
Scummy. It's
Best SK
- and gambling page 1 and having it pay off big, even in a swingy setup like AITP, deserves credit where it's due. If the moderator had rolled a d20 and given Oman the name of a King if it came up 1, that'd be different...

I'll second Oman's nomination.
- there, now the judges can deal with it.
I agree with Flay. That is why I nominated Oman. It was ballsy and as SK's go it was a good job by guessing correctly. If I had paid attention a bit more and let go of his guess I would have lynched him and still said Best SK for making everyone second guess him for awhile.
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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:07 am

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Claus wrote:I know it is a self nomination, but I'll throw this in for consideration. If people don't like it, just don't second/third/whatever it.

Nominate the Town of
DarkStalkers Mafia
for
Best Town Performance.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7687

Town did absolutely everything right in that game.
- Day 1 the SK was lynched on a small slip he did when the SK cop claimed.
- Night 1, the JOAT managed to block the vig miskill which prevented the vig from becoming a second SK.
- Day 2, the two jailkeepers were forced to claim. The town entered a counter claim situation, but managed to leave it without lynching either of the two (which would be disastrous, for the lynched one would flip jailkeeper and the other one would promptly be lynched/vigged next). A mafioso was lynched.
- Night 2, the JOAT correctly investigated the second mafia.
- Day 3, discussion led the town to narrow the number of possible cult leaders to a small set. The survivor was lynched, but he was not a pro-town role anyway.
- Night 3, the jailkeeper correctly guessed and blocked the cult leader.
- Day 4, the cult leader was caught in a lie and lynched. The last remaining mafia was quickly lynched Day 5.

This is just an overview, the game is chock full with good discussion among the townies, and in the end no townie was lynched.
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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:26 pm

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Claus, Day 2 the town had nothing to do with mafia being lynched.

at any rate, the town did play well, though I feel it was mostly luck due to the CL and the a mafia member bumping heads.
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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:13 pm

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The point anyone opposing Oman's nomination should raise (and I'm surprised no one hasn't) is that AITP in and of itself is a crapshoot anyways - it takes one mistake by town (which happened) to hand the game to the scum. Was it Oman's work that did this (note that he himself even agrees that the town basically overlooked his scumminess) or was it the setup combined with the ineffectiveness and lack of ability in the town?
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:25 am

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If I join 12 12p bad idea mafias, and instakill in all of them day 1, and happen to hit the godfather in one of them, does that mean I should be nominated for best dayvig?
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:33 am

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Its been seconded so its up to the judges to decide about it is worthy of an award or not - don't see why we have to have this discussion ..

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