Mini 545 - The Final Stand Mafia - Dramatic Finish!

[Mizzy]

Does a nonvote seem to be doing much right now?

About as much as a random vote on someone who doesn't give a damn

[Trebis]

Unvote since random votes don't seem to be doing much now.

Subtle attempt at looking more pro-town? No way to prove it one way or the other, but I'm just throwing that out there.

[Khelvaster]

Rolefishing?

I don't see the role fishing.

But shaka, first you say shits and giggles, now it was a pressure vote? What reason do you have to pressure Khel, anyways? By the time of your vote he had shown up and explained his absence.

Since this is so early in the game, I'm sure no one's foolish enough to finish off someone without enough backup from the rest of the community.

On a side note, Khel, care to explain your reasoning behind the role fishing vote, since no one else noticed it.

Ditto, please...it totally flew by me...I didn't notice such a thing.

Here's why I said he was rolefishing, albeit very poorly.

I thought it was rather apparent that

my vote was a pressure vote.

A pressure vote is a vote designed to make the person being voted on claim or contribute to the game. Since this was random voting, a pressure vote definitely couldn't be done to make someone contribute. It was him wanting me to claim so that I would get the BW off.

[Trebis]

I seriously doubt the scum would try to get a claim out of a townie THIS early in the game.

[Tarhalindur]

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A pressure vote is a vote designed to make the person being voted on claim or contribute to the game. Since this was random voting, a pressure vote definitely couldn't be done to make someone contribute. It was him wanting me to claim so that I would get the BW off.

That's odd, I was under the distinct impression that a pressure vote was a vote made to see how a player reacts under pressure and/or to draw out scum by interaction (specifically, through early defense).

[shaka!!]

A pressure vote can be used for multiple reasons. Which do you think is more probable, trying to get someone to claim on page 2/day 1 or looking to see how people react towards the vote?

[Sangy]

A pressure vote is a vote designed to make the person being voted on claim or contribute to the game. Since this was random voting, a pressure vote definitely couldn't be done to make someone contribute. It was him wanting me to claim so that I would get the BW off.

Unvote, FOS Khelvaster

because I don't buy that. Maybe, later on, I could see someone trying to force a claim, but that's a little early, isn't it? In addition to that, with a bandwagon of three on page two I hardly think anyone WOULD feel pressured to claim.

[Mizzy]

Unvote since random votes don't seem to be doing much now.

Subtle attempt at looking more pro-town? No way to prove it one way or the other, but I'm just throwing that out there.

I just meant that it felt like random vote phase was coming to an end.

[Khelvaster]

My apologies--I am still convinced that a pressure vote is an attempt to get a roleclaim. There is no possible way I could respond with this little information currently in the game except by claiming if I were subjected to a "pressure vote." The fact that his vote wans't actually a pressure vote doesn't change his intentions.

[shaka!!]

My apologies--I am still convinced that a pressure vote is an attempt to get a roleclaim. There is no possible way I could respond with this little information currently in the game except by claiming if I were subjected to a "pressure vote." The fact that his vote wans't actually a pressure vote doesn't change his intentions.

The pressure vote wasn't only about you, I wanted to see how other people would react to it as well. Scum have a tendency to make big deals of small things. After all, this was only a third vote, out of 7.

[shaka!!]

Mod: Prod OhGodMyLife

Hasn't posted since her random vote.

[OhGodMyLife]

Her? Thats a male symbol under my avatar thankyouverymuch.

My body's recovery from new years was taking all of my time the past couple of days, my apologies. Khel, you're clearly overreacting to the mini bandwagon that formed on you. Pressure vote can mean a lot more than pressing for a role claim, and you've been reacting poorly under the pressure so far.

[shaka!!]

Sorry, OGML sounds like a chicks name so I went with that, lol. :3

[RetroDucts]

The fact that his vote wans't actually a pressure vote doesn't change his intentions.

If I'm reading this correctly, you believe that Shaka's intention was to get a role claim out of you (on page 2) and this is what you've based your vote on. I think that's a bit of a reach.

[Mizzy]

The fact that his vote wans't actually a pressure vote doesn't change his intentions.

If I'm reading this correctly, you believe that Shaka's intention was to get a role claim out of you (on page 2) and this is what you've based your vote on. I think that's a bit of a reach.

Honestly, Shaka saying that he vote was for "shits and giggles" comes off as being kind of accurate. "For shits and giggles" can mean for entertainment or to watch reactions, or both. In this case, I am sure Shaka just wanted to see what would happen, which is a form of pressure vote.

Pressure votes can be cast for a variety of reasons; To incite activity, to gauge reactions, to gain a role claim, to entertain, to cause mischief.

I don't think that on page 2, a pressure vote can be construed as anything as for pure shits and giggles, because honestly, what good do any of the other uses do you when they don't apply yet?

[Mizzy]

Honestly, Shaka saying that he vote was for "shits and giggles" comes off as being kind of accurate. "For shits and giggles" can mean for entertainment or to watch reactions, or both. In this case, I am sure Shaka just wanted to see what would happen, which is a form of pressure vote.

Pressure votes can be cast for a variety of reasons; To incite activity, to gauge reactions, to gain a role claim, to entertain, to cause mischief.

I don't think that on page 2, a pressure vote can be construed as anything as for pure shits and giggles, because honestly, what good do any of the other uses do you when they don't apply yet?

EBWOP because I can't type for crap over VNC, apparently:

Honestly, Shaka saying that

he

his vote was for "shits and giggles" comes off as being kind of accurate.

I don't think that on page 2, a pressure vote can be construed as anything

as

but for pure shits and giggles, because honestly, what good do any of the other uses do you when they don't apply yet?

[Khelvaster]

Bah, I get y'all's point. I misinterpreted what a "pressure vote" was.

Unvote

[Mizzy]

Bah, I get y'all's point. I misinterpreted what a "pressure vote" was.

Unvote

No problem :3

[Glork]

I seriously doubt the scum would try to get a claim out of a townie THIS early in the game.

Unvote, Vote: Trebis

You should claim. Immediately.

[Trebis]

Unvote, Vote: Trebis


You should claim. Immediately.

Maybe I'm not understanding something, but I don't see why that's necessary at all.

[Mizzy]

Unvote, Vote: Trebis


You should claim. Immediately.

Maybe I'm not understanding something, but I don't see why that's necessary at all.

I think it's an acute case of sarcasm.

[Glork]

Unvote, Vote: Trebis


You should claim. Immediately.

Maybe I'm not understanding something, but I don't see why that's necessary at all.

I think it's an acute case of sarcasm.

Eh. Yes and no.

[OhGodMyLife]

Unvote: Trebis

There, no more bandwagon. No need to claim. I got feeling glork was mostly kidding, but whats with all this talk of claims already? This early in the game I feel like claims do nothing but help the scum aim their NKs.

[RetroDucts]

Bah, I get y'all's point. I misinterpreted what a "pressure vote" was.

Unvote

The misinterpretation doesn't change the fact that it was a reach. Unless it wasn't a reach. Do you think it wasn't?


Why exactly did you unvote, OGMY?

[Glork]

It's probably because he doesn't want to lynch his scumbuddy Trebis.