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Post Post #1226 (isolation #200) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:17 pm

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In post 1223, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 842, beeboy wrote:I actually think you are town now.
And so what changed from this po-
In post 1204, pieguyn wrote:cancel my Luna read for the time being.
Oh... right.
And you want me to supposedly believe your read on me has a natural trajectory?
I'd be lying if I said I cared about your read on me.
I am more concerned on how you can be so sold on me being scum and be on the Drealz wagon at the same time.

I'd like for you to stop coming up with conspiracies on how I am trying to mislynch you and just answer my question
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Post Post #1228 (isolation #201) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:19 pm

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In post 1120, beeboy wrote:So if I am still 100% claimed scum or whatever why are declaring intent on Drealz?
In post 1127, beeboy wrote:ok I just dob't think me and Drealz can reasonably be scum together.

Although I posted my concern way back here before Pie said anything.
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Post Post #1230 (isolation #202) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:20 pm

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In post 1227, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1225, beeboy wrote:1222 is a cute post but you still haven't explained how me and Drealz can be scum together.

The reason why you going on Drealz is a problem for me is that nothing in my posts suggests I am busing and I am your top scum read yet you are ok being on the Drealz wagon.
And apparently you're still refusing to read my posts:
In post 1119, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1118, beeboy wrote:So do you think I am town?
Nope.
But if drealmz flips scum, then maybe.
I have an independent scumread on both of you, I don't see why I have to be doing pre-flip associatives if i dont feel like it.
Like you are actually just misrepping me now
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #203) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:20 pm

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Fuck that was a comment to add onto 1228 the quote is irrelevant
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Post Post #1234 (isolation #204) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:25 pm

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I haven't asked any of that in the slightest but ok!

I am saying from your POV you should want to lynch me before Drealz because your read on me is a lot stronger (or that's how I interpret your posts) as there isn't a world where we share the same alignment.
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Post Post #1239 (isolation #205) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:30 pm

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Never said that either, I just said it is odd you aren't thinking of the implications of me flipping scum.
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Post Post #1240 (isolation #206) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:30 pm

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Like if your are so confident I am scum shouldn't things that don't make sense upon me flipping scum me at the bottom of things you want to do?
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Post Post #1241 (isolation #207) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:32 pm

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In post 1238, Luna Fox wrote:Like i've been trying to get you lynched for pages and all i see happening is
"Hey guyz you both townz, this is totes TvT can you plz stop it pl0x"
Why pressure Drealz over any of your other scum reads that make sense with me flipping scum. (Like your Varsoon scum read who has plenty of votes)
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Post Post #1249 (isolation #208) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:38 pm

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Luna this is basically your Gamma read again you are ignoring what I am saying by calling me bad and repeating past thing you said without ever addressing what I am actually saying
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Post Post #1251 (isolation #209) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:39 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1263 (isolation #210) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:47 pm

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Drealz is still scum
Cakez is probably town as well don't ML him please
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Post Post #1264 (isolation #211) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:47 pm

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^ listen to me please
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Post Post #1276 (isolation #212) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:01 pm

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i am happy I opted to wait for the dead thread to express how that made me temporarily feel
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #213) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:02 pm

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Pie can I vote Drealz or do you need more time?
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Post Post #1390 (isolation #214) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:13 pm

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In post 1383, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1376, Varsoon wrote:Can you lay out, in one post, what's informing your scumread on Beeboy?
Constnatly misrepresenting my posts, saying im scum for making mistakes then he makes mistakes too then he doesnt remember wanting revenge or any other times i've made mistakes but expects me to have photographic memory of all my games and every post i read, and when i tried to finally end the engagement with him he provokes me to keep engaging with him, in addition of accusing me of things im not doing because apparently he cant read my posts.
I would argue the inaccuracies in this but you can't lynch me anyway so /shrugs
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Post Post #1399 (isolation #215) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:17 pm

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In post 1393, Luna Fox wrote:cocky scum detected
Every time I make a post can you continue to do stuff like this?
I think it would be fun.
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #216) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:17 pm

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Luna lost her sympathy when she fake bombed me btw.
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Post Post #1406 (isolation #217) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:18 pm

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In post 1401, SirCakez wrote:Because Varsoon has spent the entire game tunneling a PR? (I'm assuming dreal is town)
Me and Ranger once spent an entire game tunneling a claimed PR.
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Post Post #1417 (isolation #218) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:27 pm

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am I supposed to town read Drealz for his claim?
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Post Post #1418 (isolation #219) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:28 pm

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Cause I don't.
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Post Post #1420 (isolation #220) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:29 pm

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I also don't think a nurse would dick around at L-1 while people are threatening to hammer him.
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Post Post #1421 (isolation #221) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:29 pm

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In post 1419, Wisdom wrote:i dont find a scum nurse likely
>implying he isn't a nurse
>this is a troll game
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Post Post #1422 (isolation #222) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:29 pm

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>implying that he has to be a nurse*

like come on people can claim to roles they aren't
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Post Post #1426 (isolation #223) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:30 pm

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Doc, Nurse, Inno Child, Back up inno child.

I still think pie is town and this is too many ways to clear townies.
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Post Post #1428 (isolation #224) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:31 pm

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unless that is literally all our power.

pedit: xD! I get it, it is because I am scum!
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Post Post #1431 (isolation #225) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:32 pm

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one or the other I am not sure.
But I don't buy this game has a doc, back-up doc, inno child and back-up inno child.
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Post Post #1432 (isolation #226) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:32 pm

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Also back-up inno child could just be a mod given fake claim.
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Post Post #1433 (isolation #227) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:33 pm

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back-up doctor*
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #228) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:35 pm

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I mean I know they are different mods, but in street fighter mafia they gave the PGO a fake cop claim.
I have also seen other fake claims that are kinda insane tbh.
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Post Post #1444 (isolation #229) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:36 pm

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In post 1439, drealmerz7 wrote:because as much as I feel my hook in you is good

he's fucking scumfish flapping around like crazy over there and you'd get good towncred with me if we kill him together
what the fuck does this even mean
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Post Post #1455 (isolation #230) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:38 pm

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That's because he isn't town.
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Post Post #1473 (isolation #231) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:48 pm

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Wait we need to time this page bottom and top steal
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Post Post #1474 (isolation #232) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:48 pm

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luna is town
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Post Post #1475 (isolation #233) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:48 pm

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luna is scum
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Post Post #1476 (isolation #234) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:48 pm

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can't delete those gif cause they pertain to the game
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Post Post #1494 (isolation #235) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:52 pm

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Cakez your wisdom read makes me sad :<
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Post Post #1497 (isolation #236) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:53 pm

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In post 1493, Luna Fox wrote:Yeah but, if the first one claims it cant confirm, and if it confirms pie cant confirm it.
Well idk, but it's still better than bee's idea of doctor+nurse+ic+backup ic and all town.
heck even both ic+backup ic may be too broken yet bee rather lynch claimed nurse and believe pie's backup ic claim.
I literally said they couldn't possibly be all town.
You are literally doing this on purpose.
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #237) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:53 pm

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In post 1493, Luna Fox wrote:Yeah but, if the first one claims it cant confirm, and if it confirms pie cant confirm it.
Well idk, but it's still better than bee's idea of doctor+nurse+ic+backup ic and all town.
heck even both ic+backup ic may be too broken yet bee rather lynch claimed nurse and believe pie's backup ic claim.
I literally said they couldn't possibly be all town.
You are literally doing this on purpose.
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Post Post #1512 (isolation #238) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:56 pm

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I feel like Luna is literally just trying to get under my skin right now.
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Post Post #1515 (isolation #239) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 3:58 pm

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Nahdia I doubt this game has 2 lynchers.
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Post Post #1522 (isolation #240) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:04 pm

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In post 1520, Luna Fox wrote:I feel like beeboy's taking more time trying to find mistakes in my posts to try to push me than actually trying to solve the game.
You have literally never asked me about my reads.
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Post Post #1523 (isolation #241) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:05 pm

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You are literally making up concerns you never had in order to justify your read to people
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #242) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:09 pm

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In post 1526, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1522, beeboy wrote:
In post 1520, Luna Fox wrote:I feel like beeboy's taking more time trying to find mistakes in my posts to try to push me than actually trying to solve the game.
You have literally never asked me about my reads.
I know where your reads are
You want dreamlz ded
Your read on me flip flops more than a fish out of water.
And you're townreading kop, pie and wisdom.
You don't know my reads then because I never said I was town reading kop ever.
You just proved you aren't reading what I am posting.
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #243) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:09 pm

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My read changed on you once btw so flip flopping is a misrep.
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Post Post #1533 (isolation #244) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:13 pm

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In post 1530, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 382, beeboy wrote:
In post 380, pisskop wrote:Beeboy is my mason buddy. too
Confirming that this post is the truth.
And then continued to ask drealz about the scumread on wis and kop.
Ok one I fake claim Mason every game.
Two I was also asking him about his scum read on Dwlee as well, also I just wanted to know why he had his reads because he wasn't explaining them that doesn't mean I am town reading pisskop.

You literally just went through my ISO to try and justify the statement you made.

Really Luna just stop.
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Post Post #1534 (isolation #245) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:13 pm

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She is literally just making statements and conf biasing them at this point.
Please just stop Luna thx.

I know you are scum but really no one is going to buy what you are saying.
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #246) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:16 pm

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In post 1537, Luna Fox wrote:Do you fake mason claim with someone you're not townreading?
Coz afair both times i've seen you claim masons it was with someone you were townreading
I fake claimed masons with you on my opening post in PCB mafia.
The last time I fake claimed mason in a game you where in, I also did it for no reason in Puppy Mafia.
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #247) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:16 pm

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Like come on Luna it was literally the last game we played together.
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Post Post #1542 (isolation #248) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:17 pm

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In post 1538, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 1535, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1532, mhsmith0 wrote:@luna: presuming beeboy is scum, who else makes sense as scum? Please start pushing that person, and for reasons not fully dependent in beeboy interactions? Please and thank you.
Yeah sorry, beeboy just likes provoking me.
Just ignore him. Please. Your mutual back and forth is making the game unpleasant for the rest of us.
And beeboy that goes for you too. Luna's not going to succeed in lynching you any time soon, so ignore her as well.
Her lies, AtE and being scum are bothering me tho :<
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Post Post #1547 (isolation #249) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:20 pm

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In post 1544, Luna Fox wrote:Uh yeah, but you townread me that game until you eventually scumread me.
You also townread rb and fake claimed masons with him.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8276542

I never knew I could get a town read in less than a page, I must be a professional.
Also I never scum read you in PCB mafia just as an fyi, I was just mad and was going to kill you because you kept saying I was scum reading you because I had problems with Pie's town read on you.
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #250) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 4:22 pm

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In post 1531, Aeronaut wrote:
In post 1375, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1370, Aeronaut wrote:Ok so ur useless then
nope ive caught your buddy and im getting him lynched no matter how much you resist it
I'm back. Are we claiming things?
Uh Varsoon claimed neighbor with Pisskop and Dwlee
Drealz claimed Nurse
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #251) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:38 pm

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@pie ok I will drop it.
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Post Post #1576 (isolation #252) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:46 pm

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Ya dw
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Post Post #1579 (isolation #253) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:24 pm

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This isn't related to my read on Luna, this post is also directed at her and anyone that isn't Luna doesn't even need to read this post as it would be worthless to them.

I am not trying to push buttons and I am worried this will be received wrong. (I hope that saying this is within our promise as well pie) I also know pie brought this up and not you but w/e I am going to make this post anyway since this is something you mentioned yourself before. I also do understand why you think that I do read you out of fear since sometimes my pushes do kinda come out of nowhere so I am not trying to say your in the wrong.

Not including games that are so old I can't even remember them. I have seen you play as scum once and I proceeded to replace out of that game very early on. I don't even have an impression on your scum meta because I haven't actually played a game to completion with scum you at a time where I actually critically thought about Mafia. (I don't really count badass women because SKs is scum hunt as much as town.)

So I guess the point I am trying to get to is I am literally just shit at this game at times and I tunnel people very hard when I think I found scum. I don't want you to think the game is the problem, the problem really just is me and I am sorry about that and I don't want my play to just single handedly ruin Mafia for you.

Anyway sorry to everyone else in this game I just felt the need to make this post.
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Post Post #1584 (isolation #254) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:45 am

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In post 1401, SirCakez wrote:Because Varsoon has spent the entire game tunneling a PR? (I'm assuming dreal is town)
I regret saying I thought Cakez was town in all honesty as this was the most unneeded post ever.
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Post Post #1613 (isolation #255) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:22 am

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pieguyn - The claim was nice and I have reason to believe it but nothing else Pie has done since has been town, but still leaning town.
Varsoon - I need to read Varsoon's posts more critically at some point because I am null on him right now.
Gamma Emerald - I don't like how Gamma is lurking and periodically comes in to vote someone but that doesn't make him scum so I guess he is null.
Nahdia - Town
Wisdom - Town
drealz - Scum
SirCakez - I was liking some of his earlier posts and I think that Cakez is playing to his town meta but the content in some of his posts suck.
Aeronaut - I have yet to critically read Aero's posts
Dwlee99 - So before this game started Dwlee said he was busy with school and was rusty with Mafia, I don't particularly think he is town and when I said I would vote him I was null reading him and was more ok with the idea of voting him and not something I overly wanted myself. Although Dwlee is a player that I think will become a lot easier as the game progresses so I am fine leaving him be.
pisskop - Null, I don't understand the Pisskop town reads I have thought about his posts and don't feel strongly either way about him right now.
mhsmith0 - Town


Anyway here is where I stand.
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #256) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:42 am

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In post 1616, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 1613, beeboy wrote:SirCakez - I was liking some of his earlier posts and I think that Cakez is playing to his town meta but the content in some of his posts suck.
Can you talk about this a bit more? I'm explicitly not particularly good at sorting SC or really understanding his town meta, so what in particular pings you town there? Especially in light of your 1584 whcih suggests you might be walking that read back a bit.
I am scum reading Cakez but I felt as though he was getting involved and interacting with people a lot more then what he plays as scum. It is hard to put into words but Cakez tries to avoid doing reckless things as and he is pretty careful ccum (not the best way to describe it but fuck it) while he is town he tends to do things I find he would be smart enough to not do as scum. In particular his Varsoon tunnel I thought seemed kind of over board for something Cakez would do as scum and struck me a lot like his reads in a game like let's say summer waltz. Although this feels kind of overboard for something he would do as town and I kind of think I need to reevaluate how I read Cakez since I just read a scum game of his (dragon age) and he didn't play how I thought I remembered he did. So I could jus the full of shit right now. ^^;;
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Post Post #1620 (isolation #257) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:43 am

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I should proof read things last sentence = "I could just be full of shit right now"
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Post Post #1622 (isolation #258) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:47 am

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I meant to say indie :<
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Post Post #1665 (isolation #259) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 1:58 pm

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In post 1659, pieguyn wrote:he put a neighborhood that was 2 scum 0 town and everyone in the game, myself included, was really pissed off over it
You where just pissed I outplayed you with my pro scum game.

Anyway I am going to read things now.
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Post Post #1670 (isolation #260) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:07 pm

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In post 1627, pieguyn wrote:how do you feel about making Varsoon dead?
In post 1613, beeboy wrote:Varsoon - I need to read Varsoon's posts more critically at some point because I am null on him right now.
In particular I promised myself I would read his Aero read and I probably won't get that done today because I am kind of busy. In all honesty I am leaning towards no I won't lynch him today because I don't think his Drealz push is as bad as you are making it out to be but again I really haven't thought about all his posts. (and I have read your post on him btw I just want to come to my own conclusion as well)

I also don't think that him backing out of his Drealz read is natural because in one of GIF's NY games Varsoon was a back-up nurse and assumed the nurse and doctor would be town I know that both these situations are a lot different but I don't think his read progression on Drealz is particularly odd because I have seen him assume town role = town before.
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Post Post #1673 (isolation #261) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:10 pm

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I want a Drealz lynch but I don't feel like pushing people anymore this day phase lol.

Cakez I may support and I will elaborate on that tomorrow but I am back and forth on this one, I don't think he is playing to his scum meta at all but it also feels like he is going overboard in terms of his town meta.

Dwlee I won't support because I don't think anything he has done is particularly scummy and he is telling the truth when he says it takes awhile for him to get into the game and I think his alignment will become a lot easier to determine once that happens.
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Post Post #1681 (isolation #262) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:23 pm

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In post 1672, pieguyn wrote:"nurse" is not a town role in a role madness game and Varsoon is smart enough to know the difference.
I also don't think it is safe to assume in a non role madness game as a back-up nurse both the nurse and the doctor would be town with almost no knowledge about the actual setup as there was mostly just dead VTs iirc.

Ok Pie tell me what I am missing about your Varsoon case.

1. You think his Drealz push was shit.
2. You don't like how he was ok rushing the day phase.
3. You think that he should have continued to tunnel Drealz after the nurse.

1. I just don't think it was as Drealz was literally doing nothing.
2. This is an opinion other players have expressed including what appears to be one of your top town reads Nahdia and something I would have been ok with if no one had a problem with it. I am pretty sure other players shared this opinion as well.
3. I kinda addressed this above.
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Post Post #1683 (isolation #263) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:24 pm

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Drealz was literally doing nothing there isn't a way you can actually critically analyze that.
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Post Post #1689 (isolation #264) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:29 pm

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K nothing between Varsoon and Aero seem scummy to me as well.
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Post Post #1690 (isolation #265) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:29 pm

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I will probably just vote Varsoon's counter wagon at this point.
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Post Post #1692 (isolation #266) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:33 pm

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Idk I haven't played mafia in awhile I guess.
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Post Post #1705 (isolation #267) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:42 pm

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The faith healer claim is NAI.
Fake claiming neighbor also is NAI.
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #268) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:44 pm

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In post 1707, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 1705, beeboy wrote:Fake claiming neighbor also is NAI.
case dependant.
In this case it is NAI.
Unless you want to lynch Nahdia and Pisskop as well for doing random af fake claims.
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Post Post #1709 (isolation #269) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:45 pm

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Oh and you.
And I could have easily fake claimed on my post in the first page.
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Post Post #1712 (isolation #270) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:46 pm

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In post 1710, Luna Fox wrote:How possible is it that dwlee just derped and forgot about a hood?
0% chance
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Post Post #1714 (isolation #271) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:47 pm

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In post 1299, Varsoon wrote:
In post 1296, Dwlee99 wrote:What the fuck happened while I was gone
I claimed our hood, people submitted (probably) fake actions, there was a thread lock, but no votecount.
Because it's not like we needed a VC or anything. :P
In post 1300, Dwlee99 wrote:wait there was a thread lock?!?!
literally the next post lol
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #272) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:48 pm

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In post 1715, Wisdom wrote:Faith healer is definitely not a fake claim based on info i have

I also cant really see the logic behind a scum faith healer
I buy it cause Wisdom is town.
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Post Post #1727 (isolation #273) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:57 pm

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tfw Dwlee forgot about a hood he posted in.
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Post Post #1731 (isolation #274) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:58 pm

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In post 1715, Wisdom wrote:Faith healer is definitely not a fake claim based on info i have

I also cant really see the logic behind a scum faith healer
I am going to make sure this post is on every page so people don't ML Varsoon
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Post Post #1732 (isolation #275) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:59 pm

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We should have a mass claim I think that would be really fun!
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Post Post #1736 (isolation #276) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:00 pm

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I kinda want a mass claim day 1 I have a feeling we don't have investigative power this game.
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Post Post #1740 (isolation #277) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:01 pm

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Aww no one else wants to mass claim :<
I thought that would be more productive then softing all our roles 1 by 1
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Post Post #1746 (isolation #278) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:03 pm

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VOTE: drealz
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Post Post #1748 (isolation #279) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:03 pm

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Ok if we aren't doing a mass claim no one else is softing for any reason.
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Post Post #1752 (isolation #280) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:05 pm

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In post 1734, pisskop wrote:
In post 1731, beeboy wrote:
In post 1715, Wisdom wrote:Faith healer is definitely not a fake claim based on info i have

I also cant really see the logic behind a scum faith healer
I am going to make sure this post is on every page so people don't ML Varsoon
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Post Post #1761 (isolation #281) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:09 pm

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Ya I like how Drealz wagon has died 3 times and he has got a shit ton of counter wagons without actually doing things.
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Post Post #1764 (isolation #282) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:12 pm

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Can we just mass claim because of half the player list has claimed.
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Post Post #1769 (isolation #283) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:19 pm

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If Drealz flips scum I would be more open to the idea about Pie being scum btw.
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Post Post #1771 (isolation #284) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:20 pm

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I feel like Pie is pushing us away from the Drealz wagon without actually having any sort of town read on Drealz.
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Post Post #1775 (isolation #285) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 3:21 pm

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In post 1773, mhsmith0 wrote:
In post 1771, beeboy wrote:I feel like Pie is pushing us away from the Drealz wagon without actually having any sort of town read on Drealz.
I felt like that before but then she kinda revived the notion so idk.
She revived the notion to push Varsoon.
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Post Post #1803 (isolation #286) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 4:03 pm

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In post 1781, pieguyn wrote:I mean, I made it explicit I think both drealz and Varsoon are scum and that specifically their interactions look like scum/scum in that post, so.

(will respond to other things later)
If you think Drealz is scum why are you doing everything in your power to get people to compromise on Varsoon or Dwlee?
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Post Post #1815 (isolation #287) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:20 pm

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Sircakez and Aero are the only people who haven't made some kind of claim btw :<
I want a mass claim :<
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Post Post #1816 (isolation #288) » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:26 pm

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Pretty please :<
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Post Post #1841 (isolation #289) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:16 am

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I do agree actually.
Varsoon in Street Fighter was more like "why are you guys doing this to me"
Varsoon here is more "Fuck you guys for doing this to me"
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Post Post #1842 (isolation #290) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:16 am

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Also I am going to reply to you Pie once I get to a computer.
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Post Post #1853 (isolation #291) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:12 am

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Vote him
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Post Post #1854 (isolation #292) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:13 am

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Anyway I am on the bus so I am going to do the most shit job ever addressing Pies posts.
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Post Post #1876 (isolation #293) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:42 am

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@pie

So the only way I can remotely reply to your Cakez read will by doing this.

: I don't think Cakez and Dwlee have a particular history of buddying as far as I am aware so burning bridges isn't exactly something I think he is concerned about. He also thought pushing Zakk really early on in magical girl Mafia (which is the game you are basing your meta on) was a good idea and Luna also called Dwlee scum first so I fail to see how this is the high risk town push you are painting it to be, when it is both low risk and unoriginal.

: this is a response Cakez made and you are trying to sell it as though Cakez is pushing Dwlee. He literally just responded to a concern Dwlee had went "I don't understand". I don't see how that is town.

Varsoon push stuff: I think Cakez is almost too deticated to his Varsoon push that it doesn't feel natural but I guess we just disagree on this.

: I have seen Cakez bring up vote hoping a lot as a reason to scum read players. Iirc I think he brought it up a lot in Borderlands Mafia a lot. Looking for scum tells you use is literally scum101 and I don't think this is particularly town.
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #294) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:48 am

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Neither of Cakez, Varsoon or Dwlee reads are particularly great and his Wisdom "read" also strikes me as pretty odd as well given how regularly he mentions him.

pie and Cakez may actually just be scum together, I feel like Pie is just trying to sell me on the notion Cakez is town.

Pedit: I know I am posting slowly af on the bus but holy shit
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #295) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:49 am

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Gamma is probably town btw
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Post Post #1930 (isolation #296) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:50 am

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Well I am on the bus so I can post again so I think I am just going to clear up my reads and probably just start posting less if it causing problems for people.
Yeah Pie's prolly not scum with Cakez that was kinda dumb. I think Wisdom is just making me paranoid over nothing, since Wisdom is really town.

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Other things {Varsoon, Pisskop, Cakez, Dwlee, Aero, Drealz}

Non of my town reads are being considered for scum so I won't bother explaining them.

Drealz is so adamant with his current stance on the game he may be town but I still want think there is a higher chance he is scum for reasons I have already posted.

Varsoon after reading pie's post I do think he could just be scum but I really just want Wisdom to claim before I actually consider voting him since I do think that is a relevant piece of info even if this could/is a troll game. He really was being unnecessarily mad at the start of this game but that just doesn't seem like anything I have seen him do as scum, I remember him taking a very different approach to AtE as scum. I just don't know how much that particularly means when I don't know much about how Varsoon plays as scum.

For Sircakez I think both his Drealz read and how open he has been this game are really town indicative, but his Varsoon push is kind of meh and so is his approach towards Wisdom this game just feels really bad. I know what I said about him potentially being scum has been addressed but I unfortunately still can't decide.

Aero I literally just felt as thouh he went through some motions and started to lurk but I kinda want to give him the chance to not lurk.

Pisskop I can't think of notable things Pisskop has done and having actual reasons to scum read other slots is what has stopped me from doing anything about this.

Dwlee is lurking and not doing anything notable, if this continues I would lynch him tomorrow and I do think him forgetting about being a neighbor is something that is more likely to happen if he was scum. But I already said Dwlee gets easier to read later in the game so I don't mind waiting in all honesty.
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Post Post #1936 (isolation #297) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:26 am

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Actually I am going to post again because I have been bitten in the ass by not asking things before it was too late before. Pie if Varsoon is scum I think it is unlikely Aero is also scum due to him trying to deflect the wagon off of Drealz and onto Varsoon early on. Is this something you disagree with?
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #298) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:31 pm

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I never said I was town reading Varsoon o.o
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Post Post #1952 (isolation #299) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:37 pm

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I just didn't think the reasons for scum reading him where particularly compelling so I was defending him since I thought there was better lynch options.
I also think Cakez is playing to his town meta and I am also unsure on what color of his role pm is.
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Post Post #1953 (isolation #300) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:39 pm

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I really should proof read my posts but oh well.
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Post Post #1955 (isolation #301) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:50 pm

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Yes
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Post Post #1956 (isolation #302) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:53 pm

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It helps get across the point that I don't want to see Varsoon lynched.
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #303) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:51 am

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UNVOTE:

I literally don't know anymore if Drealz is going to flip scum.
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Post Post #1961 (isolation #304) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:52 am

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This game is so confusing I hate it, I am sheeping Nahdia.
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Post Post #1962 (isolation #305) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:53 am

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Where am I voting sibling?
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Post Post #1963 (isolation #306) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:02 am

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Actually I still want to think this through myself.

My gut is telling me Drealz, Varsoon and Cakez are town which would mean the scum team is.

{Aero, Dwlee, Pisskop}

But I really just don't know because that is just POE :<
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Post Post #2023 (isolation #307) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:38 am

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All my reads are flip flopping which isn't a new occurrence from me.

Like in Badass Women mafia iirc I was town reading Kraska, Pie made a post so I thought Kraska was scum then read Kraska as town again without literally anything happening from the Kraska slot herself.
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Post Post #2024 (isolation #308) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:39 am

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In post 1963, beeboy wrote:Actually I still want to think this through myself.
I also said I still wanted to think it through more.
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Post Post #2025 (isolation #309) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:42 am

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I straight up never have confidence or consistent reads and you have seen me play as town enough to know that. (iirc that is why you suicided on DGB in summer waltz)
Or are you just trying to ensure you mislynch me right now for tunneling you?
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Post Post #2124 (isolation #310) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:24 am

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VOTE: drealz
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Post Post #2267 (isolation #311) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:32 pm

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VOTE: Wisdom

Wisdom is scum btw.
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Post Post #2268 (isolation #312) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:32 pm

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Confirming what Pisskop posted and all that jazz.
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Post Post #2270 (isolation #313) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:33 pm

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Luna jailkept me and I was the NK or Varsoon faith healed his own NK.

Idk if we would have more protective power beyond Luna and the nurse tbh.
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Post Post #2271 (isolation #314) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:34 pm

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Although I literally am turning this game to shit and was siding with scum so yeah this looks bad for me imo.
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Post Post #2274 (isolation #315) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:35 pm

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oh Aero being a BP actually makes sense tbh lol.
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Post Post #2276 (isolation #316) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:37 pm

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In post 2267, beeboy wrote:VOTE: Wisdom

Wisdom is scum btw.
In post 2268, beeboy wrote:Confirming what Pisskop posted and all that jazz.
I don't want a mass claim cause we are lynching Wisdom.
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Post Post #2281 (isolation #317) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:40 pm

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Wait Pisskop if Wisdom is scum what is keeping you ambiguous at this point?
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Post Post #2329 (isolation #318) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:53 am

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Luna should block me btw to avoid conflicting actions
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Post Post #2397 (isolation #319) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:07 am

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Getting fucked by mechanics as town is weird.
But we auto won this game so i don't really mind.
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Post Post #2404 (isolation #320) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:26 am

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I was under the impression we had a tracker.
Btw Luna should declare her night action so if she is NK'd we know who is town.
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Post Post #2408 (isolation #321) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:38 am

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i have an idea we lynch outside me so scum is forced to no kill or I am conf town.
if i am lone scum this isn't really going to let me win.
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Post Post #2422 (isolation #322) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:10 am

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I also think our inno child should claim so they don't get tracked / vigged.
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Post Post #2433 (isolation #323) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:19 am

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Ok so here is the plan.
Beeboy scum is never winning since he is being role blocked every night from here on out.

Scum are forced to either confirm me as town or just never submit a night kill until you guys get bored and lynch me.

I know I have the bias of knowing I am town but I really don't think killing me right away is the best idea.
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Post Post #2436 (isolation #324) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:21 am

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In post 2434, Nahdia wrote:I think you should full claim, beeboy.
I am in a hood with Pisskop and Wisdom.
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Post Post #2438 (isolation #325) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:22 am

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Yup that is my full role.
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Post Post #2439 (isolation #326) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:22 am

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My opening post was a mason fake claim :D
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Post Post #2442 (isolation #327) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:26 am

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If I was scum my honest scum role would probably be a better claim then neighbor would be if I am lone scum trying to end game right now.


w/e it is hard to argue against mechanics, I would have probably lynched me by now.
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Post Post #2443 (isolation #328) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:26 am

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Yes my role pm reads

Town Neighbor
I only have night chat
And my neighbors are wisdom and pisskop.
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Post Post #2444 (isolation #329) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:27 am

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I would honest claim right now even if i thought it would be more likely to get me lynched.
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Post Post #2446 (isolation #330) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:29 am

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Gamma claimed Vanilla Townie lol.
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Post Post #2448 (isolation #331) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:31 am

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Oh wait I can't read.
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Post Post #2449 (isolation #332) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:31 am

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In post 2447, pieguyn wrote:what was this about?
Well that was me leading up to a mason fake claim o3o
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Post Post #2463 (isolation #333) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:42 am

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Post Post #2465 (isolation #334) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:44 am

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Post Post #2516 (isolation #335) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:48 pm

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Last night in the hood before Varsoon died Pisskop said that Varsoon and Wisdom couldn't be in a hood together based on his role.
Like you don't just confirm your 2 buddies as scum so Pisskop is my strongest town read.
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Post Post #2517 (isolation #336) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:49 pm

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Also why gambit to get town read by me when Pisskop was trying to ML me earlier this game anyway.


If scum isn't Dwlee it's Cakez or Gamma, but I am pretty sure lynching Dwlee ends the game.
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Post Post #2520 (isolation #337) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:51 pm

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Like straight up you don't claim "My role says I am a part of every neighborhood." in response to your buddies who are fake claiming neighbors.
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Post Post #2521 (isolation #338) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:52 pm

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Ok I really hope that wasn't the direct quote because i just guessed what it was lol.
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Post Post #2542 (isolation #339) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:55 pm

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I thought you may have been a bomb nahdia lol.
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Post Post #2556 (isolation #340) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:19 pm

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In post 2549, Aeronaut wrote:Would it make sense to confirm yourself now Nahdia?
if she dies we can confirm pie as town and she has been softing it from page 2 so no i'd rather not.
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Post Post #2560 (isolation #341) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:49 pm

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Can someone explain to me why scum Pisskop goes into our hood and goes "my role is I in all the neighborhood so unless this is a fake claim you and varsoon are scum" to wisdom if he is scum.
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Post Post #2561 (isolation #342) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:49 pm

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He literally would have to think busing his entire team is smart.
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Post Post #2575 (isolation #343) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:53 am

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Wisdom wouldnot have self hammered if the setup was 2-2 unless he valued trolling the town over winning.
This game has 3 scum on 1 team.
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Post Post #2586 (isolation #344) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:45 am

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Ok so why would lone scum wisdom self hammer unless he really doesn't like town I don't see why he would do that in 9-2-2.

Pisskop isn't scum cause counter claiming both your buddies isn't something scum would do.
Pisskop wouldn't have known that Varsoon was the vig shot
He also wouldn't have known Wisdom would get quick lynched.

Like you don't just fake claim "I am a part of all the neighborhoods as scum".
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Post Post #2588 (isolation #345) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:51 am

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They better not
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Post Post #2593 (isolation #346) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:03 am

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Dwlee > Cakez > Gamma

I really just thin you, Luna, Aero, nahdia and pie are all town.
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Post Post #2594 (isolation #347) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:04 am

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think*
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Post Post #2595 (isolation #348) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:12 am

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I also think Aero should be lynched before lylo.
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Post Post #2596 (isolation #349) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:13 am

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Scum have really committed a lot to try and get me ML'd and idk if I particularly buy that.
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Post Post #2604 (isolation #350) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:29 pm

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How exactly would we have stopped 2 kills if it is multiball?
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Post Post #2605 (isolation #351) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:31 pm

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I literally can't see how multiball makes sense unless a scum team with 2 members thought not killing was a good idea.
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Post Post #2607 (isolation #352) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:59 pm

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I guess both scum teams could have been given ways to block kills but I still think it is more likely it is single ball.

Regardless can we lynch Dwlee or me at some point I am getting bored :<
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Post Post #2609 (isolation #353) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:16 pm

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VOTE: Dwlee
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Post Post #2612 (isolation #354) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:21 pm

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i'd rather be role blocked cause being shot hurts :<
If I am blocked again scum will have to choose to not night kill again.
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Post Post #2614 (isolation #355) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:24 pm

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Also that was a hammer btw
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Post Post #2615 (isolation #356) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:25 pm

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Pie is right I just checked the votes
Cakez, Me, Pie, Nahdia, Aero
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Post Post #2617 (isolation #357) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:27 pm

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Idk why we are writing Cakez off as town.
He buses a lot lol.
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Post Post #2618 (isolation #358) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:28 pm

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I had to tell him to stop pushing me in borderlands and dragon age he bussed irrc or maybe that was vedith.
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Post Post #2620 (isolation #359) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:30 pm

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Regardless I am pretty confident lynching Dwlee will end the game.
Although shooting Cakez as a claimed tracker would be a shitty idea and Gamma is already being blocked so I probably am the best kill. Although it's not like I have any say in this.
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Post Post #2627 (isolation #360) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:56 am

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So it's in Cakez and Gamma?
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Post Post #2628 (isolation #361) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:57 am

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The reason I am getting shot is total bs btw.
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Post Post #2630 (isolation #362) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:59 am

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Idk if getting vigged for mechanical reasons as town is ever not bs.
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Post Post #2632 (isolation #363) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:18 am

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=( it's ok I'll forgive you
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Post Post #2670 (isolation #364) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:32 am

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Whatever you guys do don't lynch Pisskop thx.
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Post Post #2675 (isolation #365) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:35 am

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I don't think a Nahdia/Pieguyn scum team would commit to an innocent child claim in multiball sounds like a good way to get cross killed.

Pieguyn could be scum but I doubt it.

Let's say Dwlee isn't trolling and Gamma is town I kinda still want Cakez lynched.
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Post Post #3266 (isolation #366) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:26 pm

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Post Post #3899 (isolation #367) » Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:06 am

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That awkward moment when your dying words are to never lynch the last scum because you swear they are conf town.
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