Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

[pisskop]

Like pie

[Gamma Emerald]

LOL
SirCakez and pieguyn

[pieguyn]

Like pie

?

[pisskop]

[pieguyn]

cancel my Luna read for the time being. I'm being eaten alive by paranoia and I need to think about it more.

[SirCakez]

He's at L-1 beeboy? Pretty clear it's not working
I'm pretty sure wisdom is just scumreading anyone who disagrees with him

nice try at discrediting

It's true though
Youre scumreading basically everyone who isn't interested in lynching dreal

[Gamma Emerald]

He's at L-1 beeboy? Pretty clear it's not working
I'm pretty sure wisdom is just scumreading anyone who disagrees with him

nice try at discrediting

It's true though
Youre scumreading basically everyone who isn't interested in lynching dreal

That's Wisdom for you

[Dwlee99]

Because he isn't saying anything. He's just sitting there and saying random stuff. Noise is garbage.

this is the part that I take issue with.

drealz is a really erratic and noisy player, but it *isn't* true that he doesn't have any content anywhere in his posts. he is forming reads, taking stances, and so forth, even if there's a lot of erraticness in his posts and even if he isn't the most cooperative player.

a town approach, I would expect to be actually reading his posts and what they contain and analyzing it in some way or another, even if they still come out of it with a scum read (what for instance beeboy is doing even if I don't agree with most of his reasons). what you did, on the other hand, was you said "his posts are nothing but noise, so he's scum" - you're either missing or deliberately ignoring what his posts actually contain and writing it all off as just "noise", and no, you not being here does not have anything to do with this. even when you were here and present in the game thread, for about the first ~2 RL days of the game, his posts had at least some stances and reads in them.

if you had trouble forming a read on his posts early in the game, that's fine, but once you catch up I would like you to actually attempt to read the content of his posts and form an opinion of him that isn't just about "noise = scum".

If you want me to be honest I stopped reading his posts lol

[Luna Fox]

before we go to night phase, Luna, what do your scum reads outside of beeboy look like?

I just came back from work, so i'm responding this without reading any further post from here and will go back to reading those after.
While i was scumreading bee i had a strong feeling that you, aero or pisskop could be scum as well. After a while i feel slightly better about Aero, and when i mentioned that post that i was going to re-read those 5 pages coz i was confused.... and then i ended up scumreading both Varsoon and drealz, and i've been continued to be confused, then this morning well... you saw my post where i declared intent on drealz, and up until a few mins ago i still had those 3 as scumreads.

[Luna Fox]

Then Lynch his ass.

I was going to, but i remembered you hadn't pitched in for like forever so i retracted my intent, and apparently said youtube video is his "claim".

[pisskop]

You can still rectify your errors.

[Luna Fox]

Nahdia and Luna did

Uhh i never voted him i declared intent and retracted it coz i wanted to hear more from the ppl who hadn't had time to pitch in ^^;;

[Luna Fox]

You can still rectify your errors.

Depends on what happens in the few posts i haven't read yet, but so far i dont think my opinion of Varsoon and drealz being SvS is changing.
I understand why people are scumreading Varsoon, i just dont understand why ppl are townreading drealz (or at least not scumreading him).

[Luna Fox]

And right after i say that i see pie's post right after... lol

[beeboy]

Luna I can't wrap my head around the logic of your POV being I am claimed scum and Drealz is also scum. Don't get me wrong I would love to see a Drealz lynch. But you have seen me bus in Gistou as much as I hard pushed Suzune/LQ a lot, I immediately joined there counter wagon and basically took every chance I could to naturally give them some kind of space. This really isn't how I would bus Drealz and you should know that which is throwing me off a lot.

[mhsmith0]

cancel my Luna read for the time being. I'm being eaten alive by paranoia and I need to think about it more.

What in particular is making you feel paranoid?
is this about the

attempt to emulate her usual "strong conviction" style of play (a la what i did in badass women)

bit you discussed in 1143? or something else?

[beeboy]

I just can't see how you would go from "beeboy literally can't be town" to "I will vote the wagon beeboy has wanted all game"

[beeboy]

^ @Luna

[Luna Fox]

Ok so im all caught up.
Here's the thing, I agree with most of aero's and pie's comments on Varsoon's play (like asking pointless questions, etc). And I know town can be uncooperative, but the way drealz has played that whole debate with Varsoon seemed more like he doesn't want to throw associatives more than anything and that's why he's closing himself up. And I also agree with pie that this could potentially be a bus.
The reason i thought pie could be scum earlier was her initial claim and 728, but her thoughts on the Varsoon/Dwlee thing has made me feel better about her.
Drealz is kinda weird, because i've seen sometimes town do what drealz is doing, but my mind keeps saying it's just scum avoiding associatives (I mean i once did lynch a Wisdom that didnt want to claim).
And beeboy's throwing BS to try to ML me, then when ppl townread me he townreads me, like it's hard to figure out if he's trajectory towards me is coming naturally or is faked, and im still leaning very heavily on the later, specially because apparently only HE can make mistakes, only HE can misread, and i have to have phtographic memory of every single game i play.

[beeboy]

Dw I am not town reading you Luna.

[beeboy]

I am in this "fuck Luna is hard to read so let's wait for pie" zone

[Luna Fox]

I mean you say these things about drealz:

Beeboy what is the Drealz scum case ?

I think he is trying to make me and Luna 1v1 more and he has yet to explain his reads from page 22.

And when i disengage and look at drealz, you instantly try to draw me back in with:

So if I am still 100% claimed scum or whatever why are declaring intent on Drealz?

So...

[Luna Fox]

It's like you want to trap me or something so you can get your ML on me that you've been craving for months.

[Luna Fox]

I actually think you are town now.

And so what changed from this po-

cancel my Luna read for the time being.

Oh... right.
And you want me to supposedly believe your read on me has a natural trajectory?

[Dwlee99]

I am up for voting drealz @ whoever said we didn't have enough votes.