Mini 1856 - This Mafia Game is for pieguyn (Game Over)

[pisskop]

Wait Pisskop if Wisdom is scum what is keeping you ambiguous at this point?

??? ambiguous? all that's left is my role name.

[pisskop]

hunh

thanks

[pisskop]

umm we assuming an skviggie?

nhs was pretty town so sk?

[pisskop]

???

if SK
then 2maf

[pisskop]

im pretty sure if you figure out why d1 no mafkill then d2was cuz no living maf.

theres only 13p

[pisskop]

yea.

my role is 'in-all-'the-'hoods' so.

[pisskop]

if 3maf and sk i expect powerful town.

plusx ocams razor favors me

[pisskop]

umm you won one as an sk, aero

[pisskop]

screw phone posting i always feel like im playing catch-up

[pisskop]

p

paraih was a large

[pisskop]

Uhh yea. Im not the bomb. Bomb diggity bomb boom

[pisskop]

*now* now Im the bomb

[pisskop]

[pisskop]

I love how timelessly 2000s they are

[pisskop]

So if Im getting this right Aero is claiming vig and will shoot me to prove it?

Aero why do I prove you not an sk?

[pisskop]

Also I dont think Pie should make it to endgame.

JS

[pisskop]

if bee is scum y put wis in the hood too?

unless sk

[pisskop]

I dont think this line of pushing is good.

Im sticking with my earlier assertion.

Lets make lists of lynchpools.

[pisskop]

Wis self-hammered.

So my instinct is to search the people off the wagon for a third buddy and on the wagon for an sk

[pisskop]

You meaning 'Neighbor'?



Yea no. Its not.

[pisskop]

He asked me to be his mason buddy Pregame in the hood.

[pisskop]

he said he always fakeclaims mason when he has a hood

[pisskop]

No FU I made that point several times now.

[pisskop]

We all need to take out feet out our mouths and the wool out our eyes.

[pisskop]

Im talking to dwe.

But its not Cakez.

[pisskop]

You could be.

[pisskop]

I flucking claimed

when it wasn't necessary.

this is a good start to a case

[pisskop]

Stop.

Halt

cease.

[pisskop]

this isnt the 'consult another person for your reads' game.

We need to sit down and do this.


you all think its a 3rd scum and an sk? I dont, but I think its possible so w.e.


So we need 2 sets of reads then

[pisskop]

We need to put our noodles together and think about it.

We have an SK to hunt down, and a possible 3rd scum. Thats 2 entirely different criteria we need, and nobody wants to walk into it?

[pisskop]

Like wholly hell Its possible for 3 scum to be in one hood but we are trying to lynch based on old data for an old situation?

[pisskop]

Pie, I expected better of you.

Its why I suspect you for SK

[pisskop]

Thats fine.

More than 1 opinion can exist. We need to all be talking doe

[pisskop]

I dont think he is scum.

And we know that the sk needs to thin out the herd.

[pisskop]

I offered you good solid spec wrt the hoods and youve dismissed it with mary sue like reflexes.

[pisskop]

His play hasnt even been shitty.

You want to lynch a semi-active player that isnt following his meta based on associations with the other red scum IN THE SAME HOOD AS HIM.

They may have well have named the neighborhoods SCUMCHAT A AND B instead of neighboorhood if this is true

[pisskop]

Do you have nonneighborhood players you want to lynch?

[pisskop]

Because assuming the scum need more kills because their opposing faction died the hoods are a good place to waste time

[pisskop]

Right.

Good talk.

VOTE: pieguyn

[pisskop]

no no, she town.

Then who is scum, iyo?

[pisskop]

We have 1-2 slots left for them.

[pisskop]

I dont think youre getting it

"There is two scum in the hood because ___"


Dwe is far, far more likely town given the flips we have. I dont scumread him and you will not bully me into thinking he is without making more conversation.

Youre effectively tunneling him. Which is something I really take offense since I think it just one lonely, 1kpn sk out there.

[pisskop]

also if there's a SK in this setup it's almost certainly Aero and it will be trivial after we lynch the last scum. unless you think there have somehow been two missed kills every night?

And when dwe flips town? who then? you wont last forever if you are town. we need your wisdom now.

[pisskop]

Why not aero for maf?

[pisskop]

>.>
<.<

Yea, I have my moments.

[pisskop]

Fine.

Dwe can defend himself. If theres enough votes on him to rope him I am not being effective anyway.

[pisskop]

inb4 paranoia lynch on me because killing me is literally going to lose the scum the game. :p

[pisskop]

p-edit: at the moment, if it isn't dwlee I would look in {you, beeboy, maybe Nahdia if everyone else fails but I would have to be very sure before lynching them}. if you want anything more than that, I'm out the door in a few mins so ask and I'll get around to it later.

I just saw this.

Pie is literally arguing that the whole of the scum team is in hoods.

[pisskop]

Because assuming the scum need more kills because their opposing faction died the hoods are a good place to waste time

Like to point this back out.

Pie is trying to thin the herd.

[pisskop]

You will not make it to lylo pie.

[pisskop]

Well, unless you want to claim something we have an sk that scum was apparently hunting for.

[pisskop]

Thats fine.

Im not demanding you do anything.


Im saying that unless you are making a hardclaim that pie is town due to NAs Im going to continue to look at players who are palying like an SK or a third scum. Im going to compare that to the spec we know and Im not going to pretend that play trumps role.

Because effort =/= alignment, and a backup IC claim isnt an IC. Or even an IC claim.

[pisskop]

Pie isnt saying 'maybe scum is in the hood'. Pie is exclusively claiming it is.

Can you show me her looking outside the proverbial box?

[pisskop]

Yea we arent going to lynch dwe because Pieguyn thinks he didnt play it optimally. Thats an insult to his skills

[pisskop]

Is there an actual ic?

Nobody has claimed it. And I am in favor of us massclaiming today.

[pisskop]

But I agree w/you there. this isnt a flavor game with fakeclaims, pie claimed in first post. So if IC then Pietown

[pisskop]

[pisskop]

why wouldnt you though?

[pisskop]

pisskop,
beeboy,
Luna Fox,
Gamma Emerald,
Aeronaut,
SirCakez,
Dwlee99,
Nahdia,
pieguyn

[pisskop]

At least Im not the only one who didnt see it then.


I still dont think the hoods are scumchats

[pisskop]

it would. she should explain why shewoildnt simce zhes dead mpw

[pisskop]

noo i still dont scumread dwe or bee

[pisskop]

we arent lynching the weakest link players based on skill.

use your nogin

[pisskop]

okay.

cuz thats what i hear from pie

[pisskop]

idk.

Scum would have to know it was 2-2?


If its 2v2v9 then wed have to look at their reads to see if they were hunting.

Pie was up on that list, and a nadhia/pie team is possible

[pisskop]

I don't understand pisskop's posts across the past few pages at all.

Yes you do.

they didnt change one lick. You werent having an issue when you were engaging them.

what dont you get?

[pisskop]

2v2 is possible. But I dont have anything solid on a lead for that

[pisskop]

Its not a joke if Im seriously suggesting just that

[pisskop]

Guys Im trying to get linux to do midis, but it doesnt want to

[pisskop]

I can haz old school gaming?

[pisskop]

yes beeboy.

But they arent trying to lynch me.

[pisskop]

lol

thanks.

I think weve got a good chance of winning this. I could pk off for the rest of the game and still be town. If we do have a backupic and an ic thats 3 towns.

[pisskop]

So towns
Much confs
Many IC

[pisskop]

Yup.

Pie is a backup, and nadhia is totes mcgrotes an actual ic

[pisskop]

Who are you scumreading bb

[pisskop]

I dont agree with this.

Youre going to strip out a hood that has had 2 scumflips in it.

[pisskop]

I told you all this was a waste of time, but noooo, lets listen to somebody who can be scum instead of 3 who cannot.

[pisskop]

Dwe will flip town
b will flip town

for the millionth and 1 time, there is scum outside the hood, and if it was hammer were going to kill it tomorrow.

None of the time wasting crap tomorrow where we lynch the people least likely to be scum

[pisskop]

I find it incredibly amusing that everyone who though Aero was the sk and let him live. but bboy is teh scumzors

not shit at all. nope

[pisskop]

wrong.

I have never 'pushed' aero.

but giood misrep.

If Im pushing anyone its you and pie.


I think youre lying about being an IC. Ive told dwe that in our hood.



p:

if aero si the sk he is working against our wincon. We could PoE last scum. And any townie knows this. If people really though aero was the sk theyd lynch him instead of twirling their fingers and wasting erveryones time.

[pisskop]

Dont feed me that shit nadhia.

I dont buy it.

[pisskop]

Lol.

like this suddenly dawns on her that Ive raised that possibility.


P:

No it isnt. For as long as you dont conf yourself it isnt. And I never did more than raise the possibility you could

[pisskop]

But again.

cute story and misrep.

I do think you are lying to get pie more credz

[pisskop]

ewww.

[pisskop]

Quick nadhia, balance a 13p with two confirmed townies against 2scumteams, one of them with only faith healers

[pisskop]

really abrasive for a simple talk about the possibility that theres not 2 confed towns in a game like this

[pisskop]

I heartily plan on pushing the entire dwe wagon tomorrow.

[pisskop]

if you're pushing this two scumteam theory, why can't there be multiple scum in each hood

2v2v9 is about the only setup I would consider more scum in the hood with.

but again, I dont scumread either of my hoodrats

[pisskop]

Except I have.

Ive been pushing Pie?

Are you blind? Or are you just wilfully ignoring that?

[pisskop]

Im calling out my suspicions of your IC claim, especially since that would make 2 conftowns from Day1.

Like did you fall and bump your head and forget that just because I scyumread pie I cant push you as well? that people cant be independently scummy\?

[pisskop]

Its a really interesting picture youre painting. That I HAVE to think you are pie are Buddies.


Modkilled? Why would you have to get modkilled if youre an IC who can simply ask to be modconfed?

[pisskop]

I suppose were done here.
No further questions your honor, the prosecution rests their case.

[pisskop]

Okay.

Nothing I can do until the flips come anyway.


P:

Id rather let her be vigged.

I cannot see her living until lylo under the present circumstances.

[pisskop]

mmmm

[pisskop]

And not because its her special game either.

[pisskop]

Congrats assholes

[pisskop]

I hope youre happy, listening to Pie so we could gut the hood of all its townies.

[pisskop]

Now Were stuck in fuckallton, and half the games lurking away.

[pisskop]

Beeboy wanted me to tell you that we shouldnt be letting the lurkers lurk, especually Gamma/cakez

[pisskop]

we didnt need for them to die to tell use they were town.

[pisskop]

I told you they were.
I fought pie on it. We had no reason to see them die.

[pisskop]

Aero, can you elaborate on your reads and why we shouldn't lynch you?

[pisskop]

Do you think there is another red scum or an sk or purple scum or?

[pisskop]

You know I love ya man but your vig is looking like its from outta town. Work with me.


p:


yea. we shouldnt be directing aero.

[pisskop]

"chaining" prs is a bad move, and a bad pr will follow a chained order.

Its them being used. Death or freedom. Or at least a vetted list.

[pisskop]

I dont support a lazy aero lynch

[pisskop]

weve done it pies way; shes not even confed town/

Time you listen to me now that youve spent a day murdering all my townreads

[pisskop]

if its 9v2v2, and the red team is anything to go by I expect that the blue/purple team will have townish powers.

So I dont rule out cakez.

and if its 9v2v2, I dont rule out scum nokilling or being unable to kill due to the 'rule of pissoffpie'.

[pisskop]

I wanna kill gamma, asking from a kneejerk.

[pisskop]

Thats a silly question though. If I had a daycop or dayvig itd be on pie, oc.

[pisskop]

Why faith healers though?

What could that mean?

[pisskop]

yea but commuter or jailer or bp or anything?

also there was a bomb vendor. Bombs are requiring healing from maybe

[pisskop]

Bombs go boom when people who have them are visited/killed.

[pisskop]

Who else has a bomb? I recall not being the only one ...

[pisskop]

Well Im not goin to let you destroy our town and then suddenly lylo

[pisskop]

Im sorry you cant be magic sparkle town

[pisskop]

Which ones are those?

thoe ones where I dont trust you?


Look at you now trying to get another ML on the down low

[pisskop]

It wasnt enough to empty out the fucking conftown hood to strengthen your own position, you now want to kill the last member, who caught most the scum of the game?

[pisskop]

I dont buy for a single solitary second you are a Backup IC.

[pisskop]

It was obvious as all hell. Im rather mad at aero for agreeing to follow pie's directions and throw more wifom in the form of 'did scum NoKill' into the game.

[pisskop]

Chaining people is bad. For all of us. I told you we shoulda just killed him if you suspected him, instead of chasing magic unicorns.

but dont listen to me, listen to the claimed backup backup

[pisskop]

If theres an sk aeros a good place to go.

[pisskop]

Lets reverse to the part where we killed off one team and people who scumread aero

still

kept him alive despite that

[pisskop]

pies just taking personal stabs at me.

[pisskop]

its comvenient that once all the people who can testify to my work are dead she starts that

[pisskop]

i have hoppy cake. :}

[pisskop]

its Christmas.

time of panettone and eggnog

[pisskop]

VOTE: aero

[pisskop]

aero is in survivalism mode

cakez just voljnteered as his scumbud if he's blue team

[pisskop]

Assuming you're town too, Who is scum to you between Piss/SC/Gamma/Luna?

I don't really see any possibility besides it being Cakez.

I've had my fair share of paranoia that I should be pulling the same "you're not this dense" card on pisskop that I pulled on Wisdom, but ergh.

we are not letting you live to endgame of you and nadhia make it to endgame

[pisskop]

aero, if you are a town killsource why would you try to placate us by not killing scumny players?

[pisskop]

youve been chainedvthe lssy 2 nights.

by somebody who is suss

[pisskop]

y u d

[pisskop]

you not killing is survivalism.

if sk well only rope you later and if 2scum your p kills.

do you have a prefered lynch today. why is an nl the best option

[pisskop]

you not killing is survivalism.

if sk well only rope you later and if 2scum your p kills.

do you have a prefered lynch today. why is an nl the best option

I mean my preferred lynch today is a NL, but if not a NL than the lynch should be me. There's zero chance you people don't vote me in LYLO.


And it's going to be LYLO tomorrow.

Why is it lylo tomorrow?

what if youre just an sk?

[pisskop]

What if we dont slow down this train?

Aero just asked us all for reads but what were his again?

Poshe pishe

[pisskop]

THERES NOTHING TO 'WORK OUT' AERO THE VIG IS EITHER AN SK OR PART OF A SCUM TEAM.

[pisskop]

i DONT THINK YOURE GETTING IT LASS.

[pisskop]

lol capslock grammer

[pisskop]

He had every chance to provide reads.

You know why he hasnt? because he is scum.

[pisskop]

He choose to try to offer up his claimed vig shot when asked for his reads. He isnt town.

[pisskop]

You wont see me unvote because my scumread wants to think

[pisskop]

"dumbass"

[pisskop]

Explain it to me like Im 5.

[pisskop]

If we lynch you, why is it lylo?

[pisskop]

afaik youve been offing all the nightly kills

[pisskop]

better yet aero, why should we NL like you were talking about IN MULTIPLE POSTS

[pisskop]

Then let him.

Nobody's stopping him but him

[pisskop]

Can he not do so at L-1?

[pisskop]

Not a chance. I like how you nulltown two lurkers

[pisskop]

It smells like asskissing.

[pisskop]

Pie and you are nullscum. should aero not end the game im coming for both your heads.

[pisskop]

In fact, the only scenario in which I can even be scum is with Blue scum -> aero.

So Im not sure when you decided spec didnt need to enter the equation, but it reeks of setting up lynches.

[pisskop]

Pie has shit if nadhia is alive.

[pisskop]

no. I already think you are town.

[pisskop]

But it doesnt matter right now if I want to lynch her. Nobody else is opening their eyes.

so we can lynch aero and see if that ends the game.

[pisskop]

Because I do admit aero isnt playhing town today and his role is working against him and all the claimed NAs are too

[pisskop]

Love you too

[pisskop]

Its not personal pie, I just think youre a scumbucket this game.

[pisskop]

Okay. Well cross that bridge when we come to it.

[pisskop]

The hood is only part of it.

Setup spec also works against you, and so do your emotional appeals.

[pisskop]

And yes, you killing all my hoodmates did upset me. a lot. they were confed and you took them away so we could end up with 3 lurkers and a pear tree

[pisskop]

and yes, gamma, cakez, and luna are lurkers. their content the last few days has been appalling.

[pisskop]

Now lets get to the part where my logic is crap?

how is it crap? how are you confed. how?

[pisskop]

you very literally are not.

[pisskop]

2 FUCKING ICs

TWO

FOUR SQUARED CONFIRMED TOWN PREGAME.


In a game with an sk, or 2 scum teams, one of whom were faith healers.

[pisskop]

Lets check off the list, shall we?

3 neighbors, 2 ICs, 2 faith healers, an SK/VIG, a claimed tracker, am I missing anything?


Wheres your sense of balance?

[pisskop]

What are the likely powers of a second scum team? more faith?

bah. You know as well as I do that if one of the claimed peoples is lying its you Pie. dont act suprised, stop pretending to be pissed off.

[pisskop]

Cakez is equating me to a scum member WHO I OUTED AS SCUM

[pisskop]

Do I need to go back anf gather every one of the many posts of my hoodmates?

But regardless. We can lynch cakez tomorrow if we still have to and pie the day after.

afaic, this sudden activity in order to line up lynches is scummy as shit. blue team tracker anyone?

[pisskop]

VOTE: pie

[pisskop]

Im quite happy to put my money on my mouth. you. will. not. make. it. to. endgame. sucmpie

[pisskop]

Lynching me is absolutely the most anti-town thing anyone can do.

you arent even fucking trying anymore to solve the game.

[pisskop]

why is aero not roped yet?

Does somebody think he'll come by and be sufficient? hes scum you misguided assholes. like pie

[pisskop]

And since so many people are trying to crumb their willingness to kill me, exactly what does my death do for you?

[pisskop]

Does it help you setup spec? because guess what you arent doing?

does it help you lynch scum? because guess what Ive been doing all game?

[pisskop]

Aero, Cakez, Pie.

In about that order

[pisskop]

OK with making you lose this game if you're town

exactly. making

me

lose the game as town.

Not

us

pie.

[pisskop]

You choose to continue this.

Ive been more than open to the idea that aero could be the game-ending lynch. why is it so important to want to 'liability' lynch me?

Why is it so important to say you would PL me pie?

[pisskop]

Why was it important to purge out the hood pie? the conftown hood.

Hang on, I think I had a quote or five calling you out for wanting to waste time killing all my townreads.



Your calling me dense but here you are murdering all the townies.

[pisskop]

You know, I dont even want to fight you about it.

I wont be able to get ykou lynched today, and it isnt even optimal. I simply dont want people confing you when there is no evidence for it.

[pisskop]

it
conftown
you
hack.

I dont want to fight you either

[pisskop]

I simply dont want people confing you when there is no evidence for it.

DO YOU NOT SEE THE HYPOCRISY HERE???????????????????

The hood was town. I trust my reads, they arent perfect by I will fight for them to the death if something like the hood had happened.

[pisskop]

they flipped town right?
wis flipped scum right?

[pisskop]

They were confed the moment the other 2 flipped scum

[pisskop]

I wonder if I wouldnt vote aero if somebody else did?

Nah, that cant happen. Nope. why would somebody start a vanity wagon? ... ...

...

[pisskop]

Good, youve done nothing else all game so why switch it up enh?

[pisskop]

Whats the VC?

We should be yelling at people who arent voting, arent putting down reads, and arent doing things.

[pisskop]

Gamma, are you voting or are you just being a useless sack?

[pisskop]

Good.

At least youre not being completely shit

[pisskop]

Now why are you voting me, other than Ive been completely right and you desperately dont want to actually make content

[pisskop]

Youre a fucking joke

[pisskop]

Another waste of space lurkerfuck is not what MS needs gamma

[pisskop]

Offers nothing, takes nothing, just sits there like a sack of potatoes

[pisskop]

Do you have anything -just one any thing at all- to say, about the setup, the spec or lack thereof, the roles, pie killing my hood, me pushing pie, the apparent clear on you (despite there being no nonaero kill), anything?

Or are you going to float by.

[pisskop]

Theres been a whole days discussion here and all you can muster is a flaccid flop about how Im an asshole?

[pisskop]

Right.

So why is it bullshit? It shouldnt be pulling teeth from you.

[pisskop]

So ... how is it bullshit to suspect her now Gamma?

[pisskop]

Like maybe Im just not getting it.

[pisskop]

WIFOM is poor, poor, bad excuse to townread somebody. I dont care if the game was advertised as bastard, you dont wifom-townread somebody and expect me to take it seriously