Micro 623: Dem Tryouts 2 [GAME OVER]

[shos]

Playerlist:

RachMarie
DoctorPepper
The_Jester
Korts
Something_Smart
pistachi0n

drmyshottyizsik

SloppyJoe

Setup:

Game Name:

Dem Tryouts 2

Game Type:

Open

Game Size:

7

Bastard?:

Nope, but sort of experimental

Hydras Allowed?:

Just one, please

Other Restrictions?:

Nope

Description:

This will be the second run of my setup, this time it'll be open.

The setup

Scum A goon
Scum A roleblocker

Scum B goon
Scum B roleblocker

3x one-shot BP townies

Previous run of the setup can be found here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=65225

[shos]

Important game events:

RachMarie is lynched, and flips...Scum RB!
DoctorPepper is nightkilled and flips...Scum RB too!
pistachi0n is lynched, and flips...Scum A Goon! TEAM A ELIMINATED!
The_Jester is nightkilled, and flips TOWN!

• GAME RULES - READ THOROUGHLY - THIS IS IMPORTANT
  
  
  
• This is my color(#800000) - Do not use it.
  
  
• PLAY TO YOUR WIN CONDITION. If you don't, it ruins everyone's game, I will force-replace and report you immediately. Note that

  all

  and

  any

  actions that you do have to count as supporting your win condition.
  

• [*] Although not as awesome as <insert something really awesome here>, I am pretty awesome, and as such, my word is LAW. However, I make mistakes too. You can PM me or bold corrections in thread. I will try to read everything, but I will never miss bolded stuff.
  
  

  Activity:

  
  [*] This is a Micro. If you don't participate, it hurts everyone. Be an active participant in this game. Players who have not posted for 2 days [48 hours] will be prodded.
  [*] After a prod is sent, players have 1 day [24 hours] to respond IN-THREAD in some *actual* way - not just a prod-dodge - or they will be replaced. The 'not just a prod-dodge' is obviously my decision.
  [*] On a third prod I might force-replace you, that will depend on me and me alone, in consideration with the game's state and activity.
  [*] Anything directed at me should be bolded, even larged or huged if you want.
  [*] You may also PM me at any time; I will try to answer via phone or computer ASAP.
  [*] After a night, prods will be issued 36 hours from day start.
  
  

  Days:

  
  [*] Days will last a maximum of two weeks [336 hours]. If a lynch is reached before that time, the day will end as soon as I lock the thread.
  [*] Everyone, including lynchees, may continue posting until I lock the thread.
  
  

  Nights:

  
  [*] Nights will be 2 days [48 hours] long.
  [*] Night extensions will only be made for replacement finding, or any other circumstances which I deem worthy.
  [*] Players may request any deadline extensions for the night, with reasoning attached. Note that I may decline.
  [*] The above request can be sent (with reasoning) in-thread for day extension too, or of course in a PM to me.
  [*] If you have a night action and did not submit anything until night's end - I will count this as you doing nothing. If compulsive, it will be decided randomly.
  
  

  Votes:

  
  [*] Votes will only be counted if they are in any of these formats:
  

  Vote: Shos

  
  

  Vote: No Lynch

  
  VOTE: Shos
  VOTE: No Lynch
  [*] Unvotes are not necessary.
  
  [*] If no lynch has been reached by the Day deadline - nobody will be lynched.
  [*] For a lynch to happen, half the votes+1 are required on one wagon.
  [*] For a forced no-lynch to happen, The amount needed is just enough to prevent a lynch from happening. If an even number of players are alive, that is one less than the amount for a lynch.
  [*] If that happens - the day will immediately end with no lynch.
  
  [*] You may not quote anything from me that has not been made public.
  
  [*] Encryptions, hidden letters, supersmall letters etc. are NOT TO BE POSTED IN THIS GAME TOPIC.
  
  [*] Once you are dead, you are dead. Any "Bah", "Gasp", "The cake is a LIE" etc. posts are allowed but mustn't include game-related info. This post may not be delayed - timing of this post has to not influence the game.
  
  

Scum Role PMs will look like this:

Goon/Roleblocker

Welcome, <Player Name>!

<info about partner and PT with daytalk>

Your abilities:

<factional nightkill>
<Roleblocker ability, if this is the Roleblocker>

Your win condition:

You win if your faction is the last one standing, or nothing can prevent that from happening.

Good luck!

Town Role PMs will look like this:

Bulletproof

Welcome, player!!

You are a town 1-shot BP.

Your abilities:

If you are shot a night, the first time you are hit will hit your bulletproof vest.

Your win condition:

You win when all threats to town are eliminated.

Good luck!

[shos]

Day one begins!
Deadline is in: (expired on 2016-07-16 13:11:11)

Votecount:

RachMarie -
DoctorPepper -
The_Jester -
Korts -
Something_Smart -
pistachi0n -
drmyshottyizsik -

Not voting - (all).

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[The_Jester]

fixed tags. Shos

[The_Jester]

WELL FUCK. HI EVERYONE

[The_Jester]

Let's cut the crap. Question to my fellow townies: do you think it's a good idea to state when I've been hit? Cause obviously mafia's gonna target me first, since I'm the best scumhunter ever (not really).

[The_Jester]

Question to the Mod: can you only get hit once every night? What I mean is, if both mafia factions choose the same target, does this target get hit twice or only once?

[The_Jester]

Hmm this setup looks pretty tough on townies. Wish we had some kind of an investigative role but that would probably make it too easy. Nevermind.

[The_Jester]

So am I the only European here or what

[The_Jester]

So I'm thinking. Scum will probably try to get rid of the other mafia faction first cause they pose bigger threat with their pr and night action. So we could just scumhunt and then nl and let the mafia kill each other, right? Dunno if that works

[shos]

Question to the Mod: can you only get hit once every night? What I mean is, if both mafia factions choose the same target, does this target get hit twice or only once?

If a Bulletproof person gets shot twice in the same night, the first shot removes his vest, and the second kills him.

[The_Jester]

Riiiight but day1 both mafia's can jump on the same wagon if they fail to recognize each other and force a lynch. But if it turns out, a townie's died, we'd know all mafia members right off the bat, which would be pretty amusing. My guess is, goons from the same faction are gonna try not to be on the same wagon.

[The_Jester]

Question to the Mod: can you only get hit once every night? What I mean is, if both mafia factions choose the same target, does this target get hit twice or only once?

If a Bulletproof person gets shot twice in the same night, the first shot removes his vest, and the second kills him.

Well shit. Thanks.

[Something_Smart]

Hi Jester do you remember me?
Also btw I'm pretty sure I know your alignment.

[The_Jester]

Hi! I do remember we've briefly played together although I'd have to check back for details.

[The_Jester]

Btw what does your avatar depict? A minimap from some game? It's bothered me since I've seen it the first time.

[The_Jester]

<3 Mod

[Something_Smart]

It's supposed to look like that, yeah, but I just made it myself in Paint.
I changed it for last Marathon Weekend, and I'm planning on changing it again in the next few days.

[Korts]

For fuck's sake.

VOTE: The_Jester

Rein it in with the serial posting. If you are going to keep posting at 12 posts an hour, let shos know now so he can find a replacement for me as soon as possible.

[The_Jester]

I usually post rather scarcely but it's early Saturday plus nobody was writing anything so why the hell not. Aren't you happy to have more material to analyze? I can't tell how I'm gonna play cause I don't have a consistent style so have fun replacing out if you can't take it.

[Something_Smart]

It was 1 hour 16 minutes from his first post to his last at the time of that post
VOTE: Korts lynch all liars!

[Korts]

I usually post rather scarcely but it's early Saturday plus nobody was writing anything so why the hell not. Aren't you happy to have more material to analyze? I can't tell how I'm gonna play cause I don't have a consistent style so have fun replacing out if you can't take it.

If that's not how you're going to keep posting, okay. I just don't want to be overloaded here.

Moving on. Regarding your first question:

do you think it's a good idea to state when I've been hit?

I think it can have value. It puts a target on your back for next night, but if you don't mind that, it can be used as a scumtell.

I disagree that this setup is rought on town, though. With two mafia factions against a town this small, cross-targeting becomes a major factor, and subsequent night action resolution can shed some light on alignments.

I'm torn on a No Lynch as well. On the one hand, we are slightly more likely to lynch scum than town (4:3), and slightly more likely to be hit by either kill than for the opposite mafia faction to be (3:2) - which is not an immediate issue, given the bulletproof vests, but it's nicer to keep having that safety as long as possible. So lynching someone would mean getting ahead of the kills. A No Lynch would make sense if we hope for cross-targeting. But none of this is taking the roleblocks into account.

It's been a while since I've thought about mafia - what are the others' opinions on these questions?

[The_Jester]

It puts a target on your back for next night

Wouldn't scum prefer to try to find another mafia faction first instead of wasting 2 nights in a row for a townie?

it can be used as a scumtell

What do you mean by that?

[Something_Smart]

I'm pretty sure that BP's aren't told when their BP is used.

[The_Jester]

Ohhhh I haven't thought of that. Crap.