Mini 1787: Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (Game End!)


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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 9:42 am

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In Dunn's own words, claiming VT for no reason is anti-town.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 9:47 am

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I wouldn't claim VT without a reason though
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 9:54 am

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heuristically_alone ISO
, Part 2:

heuristically_alone WIFOM posting:
In post 271, heuristically_alone wrote:
In post 109, Tyler the Creator wrote:
vote:iraonavp
In post 183, Bins wrote:HEY ANOTHER ONTARIO SCUMMER
Just want to uselessly point out that I don't think Floof and Bins are scum together, because mafia have day talk, so I think Bins would have noticed Floof being from Ontario in the scum forum first.
The premise of this town-town interaction theory is far-fetched [
does heuristically_alone go out on a limb here, and town read two slots for no great reason, other than a cheap buddy tactic?
] WIFOM would say one or both the Floof-Bins slots are town-aligned.


heuristically_alone shares his reads (post 281):
"As for Jack, I don't have enough information yet from him to really say for me what he is, but for now I'm leaning on town."

This does not make sense. Null is null, there is no reason for heuristically_alone to town lean read Jaack. A read for the sake of a read? [Note to self: check Jaack's interactions with heuristically_alone].

"I think anyone voting him as an easy vote at the beginning makes for possible scum players, (Keyser, tool, floof for example)"

heuristically_alone scum-reads myself, toolenduso and Floof as possible scum for voting Jaack early. [Check if heuristically_alone follows up this suspicion on toolenduso/Floof].

"Robert has been really inactive as well, and I don't have a read. If what bins said in 239 is true about mafia being quiet this game, it could be a reason why"

This reads like, "I'm not scum-reading Robert2424, but will happily vote Robert2424 if his wagon gains momentum. But right now, I'm not going to do anything". Why doesn't heuristically_alone push Robert2424 now, if there is possibility of Bins' logic being true? Fence-sit noted.

"I'm pushing Bins onto my scum side of the spectrum for now"

Let's see how/if heuristically_alone pushes Bins.

"I'm thinking town at this point. More of a gut feeling"

This feels like an easy town-read to me. heuristically_alone town-reads xyzzy for making "quite a few posts done that seems to be generally seeking more information from players and challenging players on their spots and it just feels pro town to me" - these look like generic reasons to town-read a player ('Player A is asking questions, Player A is acting pro town, Player A is town').

"I have a little suspicion towards tool. Also like Keyser, posts clarifying posts but lacks giving some original content to help town."

heuristically_alone draws suspicion on toolenduso. Name drops me in there too - let's see if heuristically_alone acts on this "little suspicion".

heuristically_alone uses Dunnstral as a trump card again in his scum-read of Zachstralkita:
"Why are you so eager to get Dunn on the wagon? I think that Dunnstral's line of thinking could be considered a threat to the mafia and would want him destroyed".


heuristically_alone identifies Floof as a
"suspect of mafia for voting Jack".


"If this is an earnest request, then it makes Jake town"
- this town-read of Jake from State Farm is illogical.



After toolenduso defends me, toolenduso continues his unsupported
'Keyser-is-posting-no-original-scum-hunting-content'
narrative:
In post 283, heuristically_alone wrote:I don't see how an RVS from another game has anything to do with reading how he plays as scum or town. And why did he become pretty obvtown?
Just by posting a lot of commentary of what others were saying?
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 9:57 am

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In post 953, Keyser Söze wrote:
heuristically_alone ISO
, Part 2:

heuristically_alone WIFOM posting:
In post 271, heuristically_alone wrote:
In post 109, Tyler the Creator wrote:
vote:iraonavp
In post 183, Bins wrote:HEY ANOTHER ONTARIO SCUMMER
Just want to uselessly point out that I don't think Floof and Bins are scum together, because mafia have day talk, so I think Bins would have noticed Floof being from Ontario in the scum forum first.
The premise of this town-town interaction theory is far-fetched [
does heuristically_alone go out on a limb here, and town read two slots for no great reason, other than a cheap buddy tactic?
] WIFOM would say one or both the Floof-Bins slots are town-aligned.
Someone else sees it! I pointed this out earlier and it seems bins agreed and I think someone else agreed with this too, definitely something here
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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 9:58 am

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In post 953, Keyser Söze wrote:
"I think anyone voting him as an easy vote at the beginning makes for possible scum players, (Keyser, tool, floof for example)"

heuristically_alone scum-reads myself, toolenduso and Floof as possible scum for voting Jaack early. [Check if heuristically_alone follows up this suspicion on toolenduso/Floof].
I'd tunnel in on floof here
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:06 am

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In post 952, Dunnstral wrote:I wouldn't claim VT without a reason though
But you did...
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Things I've learned.
1. It's just a game, have fun.
2. Don't waste time on people who think you are scum. Ignore them and keep scum hunting.
3. Don't take everything so personal.
4. Tunneling sucks (unfortunately I can't seem to stop)
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:21 am

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But I didn't ;)
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:36 am

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You're nowhere close to being lynched.
Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 952, Dunnstral wrote:I wouldn't claim VT without a reason though
But you did...
Jake from State Farm wrote:
In post 952, Dunnstral wrote:I wouldn't claim VT without a reason though
But you did...
quoted multiple times for emphasis.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:40 am

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why is dunn's claim scummy as opposed to just dumb?
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:43 am

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My claim isn't scummy OR dumb excuse you
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:44 am

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In post 959, Tyler the Creator wrote:why is dunn's claim scummy as opposed to just dumb?
If you knew what I knew, you'd know precisely why it isn't dumb.

1)He's not dumb anyway.

Dunnstral wrote:My claim isn't scummy OR dumb excuse you

Excuse yourself. I don't see why you're worried anyway, the lynch Dunn train isn't getting a whole lot of choo-choos
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:44 am

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exactly now let's move on

more people need to talk about zakk and xyzzy and how they're probably scum

and also how bins scum reads are 50/50 either on the money or completely out there

like if either of tool or jaack are scum they've done a hell of a job just posting my thoughts on shit before i do almost word for word all game

and the other two are who im looking at but i don't remember her having much to say about zakk and xy before now really
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:47 am

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Just wanna put out there I'm going to have an epileptic seizure when zakk flips town and people act confused.

If I was gonna lynch in that pool it'd be xyzzy, but to be fair I have to re-evaluate that. Pretty sure I said I would before, but I couldn't be fucked to do it.. more on that later
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:48 am

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In post 961, Zachstralkita wrote:If you knew what I knew, you'd know precisely why it isn't dumb.
as much as my interest has just been super piqued i don't really see any benefit to dwelling on it until things that might or might not happen taht are completely out of either of our control... happen
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:50 am

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I have little to no motivation to lynch xyzzy today. (By the way, everyone seems to scum read them but not one person has provided any sort of reasoning behind it)
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:50 am

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i have!
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:52 am

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i could do a case but i always feel dirty when i do those plus im more confident in zakk and xyzzy is helping me kill that so im sorta still in the ~let's see how things develop~ mode with them atm but they're both individual scumreads make no mistake
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:54 am

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Not really all I saw was you talking about it a bit day 1

Unless that's what you meant, in that case I still have little to no motivation to lynch xyzzy
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:54 am

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i could probably change your mind if i wanted to but like i said

eh

it's mostly laziness i think
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 10:56 am

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why do you think they're town i guess?

im ready to be blown back
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 11:00 am

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I don't really think they're town it's just that I don't really see anything showing they're scum where floof right now it seems like everyone's detailed analysis is outlining why he's mafia

I've actually been overlooking jaack too in general doesn't feel like he's posted much recently and not sure how I feel about him either way
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 11:01 am

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In post 862, Jaack wrote:I do think that zakk is a solid lynch, but I am a bit concerned with how quickly this push on him developed....

And I don't think that scum would bus in this situation either. Assuming that there are 3 scum (which I think is a safe assumption as there was only 1 nk), if scum-zakk were lynched today, scum would have to navigate 3 mislynches to get to 3 player lylo.

Since it doesn't look like anyone is going to support me with Robert, I'd rather lynch xyzzy.
Why do you want to get xyzzy
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 11:02 am

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In post 961, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 959, Tyler the Creator wrote:why is dunn's claim scummy as opposed to just dumb?
If you knew what I knew, you'd know precisely why it isn't dumb.

1)He's not dumb anyway.

Dunnstral wrote:My claim isn't scummy OR dumb excuse you

Excuse yourself. I don't see why you're worried anyway, the lynch Dunn train isn't getting a whole lot of choo-choos
I've been trying to decipher this, pretty sure he doesn't really mean anything by it and it's safe to ignore him still
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 11:02 am

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trust

he's pretty town

pedit - short answer is very low engagement and POE
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Sun May 08, 2016 11:03 am

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and other stuff

like questions id be shocked that they care about answers to

iffy progression on reads

no direction

it's a bunch of little things

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