Micro 558 | Slavic Music Mafia II | Endgame

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.01 Galija - Pravoslavlje

Tvoje misli jedno jezero skriva
a tvoja senka ćuti i pliva
kosu ti mrsi istočni vetar,
milimetar po milimetar.

A lake hides your thoughts
But your shadow is silent and swims
The east wind tangles your hair
millimetre by millimetre.

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lynching

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

RadiantCowbells

(L-3): BulletNLynchproof, Titus

LicketyQuickety

(L-4): VysePresident

InflatablePie

(L-4): Postie

VysePresident

(L-4): LicketyQuickety

BulletNLynchproof

(L-4): InflatablePie

Not Voting

(3):

BulletNLynchproof

, Espeonage,

InflatablePie, LicketyQuickety, Postie

, RadiantCowbells, The_Jester,

Titus, VysePresident

get a room

It takes 4 votes to get a 2 person room, 6 votes to get a 3 person room, and 8 votes to get a 4 person room.

Everybody

(R-?): nobody

Not Voting

(9): BulletNLynchproof, Espeonage, InflatablePie, LicketyQuickety, Postie, RadiantCowbells, The_Jester, Titus, VysePresident

Spoiler: Room Eligibility

2 more rooms toDay

: BulletNLynchproof, Espeonage, InflatablePie, LicketyQuickety, Postie, RadiantCowbells, The_Jester, Titus, VysePresident

1 more room toDay

: nobody

1 more room toDay but not until post restriction ends

: nobody

No more rooms toDay

: nobody

Post restrictions

Spoiler: 0 current post restriction(s): (may not talk to or about each other in public, may vote and unvote normally

none right now

Spoiler: Infractions

none yet

Deadline: (expired on 2015-12-22 14:00:00).

Let me know if there are any problems with the VC, or if you have music requests.

Mod notes: VysePresident will be V/LA from 9 Dec until 12 Dec.

[Postie]

We should use them sparingly. The reason for this is that it distracts what is actually happening in-thread if we have too many going on at the same time.

They're very useful in forming reads on players though. They can definitely distract from the main thread, but since the rooms in this game are only open for 48 hours during the day phase, that shouldn't be as much of a problem as it was last game. Not that the rooms were any detriment to town last game; they ended up being extremely pro-town. Having someone to talk to during night phases is also helpful.
This mechanic is one of the major perks of this set-up and I'd like to see it abused as much as possible.

[VysePresident]

UNVOTE:

Disengaging during V/LA. Will look back in a bit.

[Passionate Storm]

Too much strategy talk. No reads happening.

VOTE: Postie

This oughta get things going.

[Titus]

Too much strategy talk. No reads happening.

VOTE: Postie

This oughta get things going.

My bad.

[InflatablePie]

Don't like the activity rate in this game so far -.-

^thread's been open for ~17 hours

also instead of just saying "here's the math, we should do this, thoughts?" BNL is showing caution. don't like it.

low hanging fruit

why is BNL 'low-hanging fruit'?

How am I showing caution?

by not just listing the math outright

by waiting for town's approval before moving forward with your strategy

drunkposting side-note: 11 by Titus feels off. can't quite place a finger on why

Also I'd still like a reply from everyone (esp. Lickety and IPie) on whether they want to set up rooms with everyone (like last game) or reserve them for their suggested use.

I'd rather reserve them. I'd rather utilize them than abuse them, despite abusing them contributing towards a town win last game. I prefer being able to "break" the game as opposed to breaking the game, if that makes sense. Purely from a... morals perspective, so to speak.

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Speaking of "breaking" the game, something I thought about prior to receiving my role PM - is it possibly strategic to have everyone post in-thread their two top BG targets (and the town players promising to 100% protect one of those two, obviously), to try and catch scum and/or force them to kill in certain pools? I haven't done the math, and also thought of this before realizing scum have a factional RB, but it

is

something I briefly considered.

I'm personally in favor of doing something like this, but given that smart and/or lucky scum can potentially work their way around this (in similar fashion to the "here's the third letter of my role name, here's a list of who I protected if it was this letter" style of breadcrumbing) it's probably just a waste of time.

@passionate - I have a (legit) read - scumread on BnLynchproof. Thoughts, and or read on BnLp?

[Titus]

@InflatablePie, I don't see how you can have a read on BnL. Explain? Passionate is me. I hydra leaked.

Any attempt to state why 11 feels off?

[InflatablePie]

Like I said, can't quite put my finger on why.

I don't like how cautious his post 15 is. "I did the math, do y'all want to do this?"

I realize that the "scum asking for town's opinions before going through with things" trope is pretty basic as far as scumtells goes, but it's the best I have to go on right now.

[Titus]

Like I said, can't quite put my finger on why.

I don't like how cautious his post 15 is. "I did the math, do y'all want to do this?"

I realize that the "scum asking for town's opinions before going through with things" trope is pretty basic as far as scumtells goes, but it's the best I have to go on right now.

That's my issue and why I am voting Postie. Too much strategy, not enough to go on.

[InflatablePie]

Maybe I'm completely misreading her posts (namely 26), but if you're trying to push the "trying too hard too early" angle, BnLp or myself are more fitting choices for that criteria.

If you want to elaborate on Postie though, go for it.

[Passionate Storm]

I am voting Postie because of the high volume count but no pushing reads. Strategy is fine but not at expense of delaying the game. It's highly possible I am wrong. I am looking to correct the problem to get reads.

[Titus]

I am voting Postie because of the high volume count but no pushing reads. Strategy is fine but not at expense of delaying the game. It's highly possible I am wrong. I am looking to correct the problem to get reads.

Damn it.

[BNL]

So Passionate Storm is a Titus hydra?

@InflatablePie The reason why I didn't show my math here is because I felt that people didn't like math and imagined it to be a long wall, which could get people annoyed. However, thinking through, it wasn't actually as long as I thought it was.

[Plotinus]

Prodding Espeonage, RadiantCowbells, and The_Jester, all of whom confirmed and picked up the daystart PM, but none of whom have posted since the game started. They have (expired on 2015-12-11 10:15:00) to post or they will be replaced.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm here!

I'm studying for exams >.>

[RadiantCowbells]

Get a room: RC & Postie

Let's sort this slot.

I'm not sure I agree with your scumread but I do want this room anyway.

[BNL]

So here was my plan (if you guys want to "abuse" the rooms):

Day 1:
Stage 1: ABC | DEF | GHI
Stage 2: ADG | BEH | CFI

Day 2:
Stage 1: AEI | BFG | CDH
Stage 2: AFH | BDI | CEG

Substitute the letters A, B, C, ... , I for some permutation of the player list, depending on what is most useful to town. And of course on Day 2 remove the dead players.

[Espeonage]

Soz I forgot to bookmark.

[LicketyQuickety]

So here was my plan (if you guys want to "abuse" the rooms):

Day 1:
Stage 1: ABC | DEF | GHI
Stage 2: ADG | BEH | CFI

Day 2:
Stage 1: AEI | BFG | CDH
Stage 2: AFH | BDI | CEG

Substitute the letters A, B, C, ... , I for some permutation of the player list, depending on what is most useful to town. And of course on Day 2 remove the dead players.

I'm willing to give BPL a Town read for coming up with this strategy. The reason is because it would be a good strategy for people to get more personal with each other and get a better idea of who is scum and it is a town mindset to have.

[Plotinus]

The_Jester has let me know that his IP has been blocked and he's having trouble posting. He's V/LA until it can be fixed.

[Postie]

How am I showing caution?

by not just listing the math outright

by waiting for town's approval before moving forward with your strategy

I can see where you're coming from with this, however...

So here was my plan (if you guys want to "abuse" the rooms):

Day 1:
Stage 1: ABC | DEF | GHI
Stage 2: ADG | BEH | CFI

Day 2:
Stage 1: AEI | BFG | CDH
Stage 2: AFH | BDI | CEG

Substitute the letters A, B, C, ... , I for some permutation of the player list, depending on what is most useful to town. And of course on Day 2 remove the dead players.

I'm not sure scum would put this much thought into how town would best be able to maximise use of the rooms at this stage of the game, so I'm more inclined to lean town on him at this point.

I prefer being able to "break" the game as opposed to breaking the game, if that makes sense. Purely from a... morals perspective, so to speak.

I'm not sure I fully understand what you're trying to say here.

[Titus]

So Passionate Storm is a Titus hydra?

@InflatablePie The reason why I didn't show my math here is because I felt that people didn't like math and imagined it to be a long wall, which could get people annoyed. However, thinking through, it wasn't actually as long as I thought it was.

Yes.

[Postie]

I am voting Postie because of the high volume count but no pushing reads.

I know you were mainly just aiming to generate more discussion with your vote, but why me as opposed to others with a higher volume count (I mean, I had like 2 or 3 posts when you voted?) who weren't pushing reads yet either?

[Postie]

Oh and

Get a Room: RC and Postie

[Titus]

VOTE: Pie

I like BnL and Postie as town now. Not sure on RC yet but if RC makes me think he's town, I could go along with his room suggestion.

Postie's confusion on reading Pie looks legit and BnL letters strategy does look good for town. We should modify it though.

AB CD EF GHI is better D1.