Open 615 - Hope Plus One [Game Over: Town wins]

mykonian · Post Post #875 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:32 am

I'm trying to imply that unless I've miscounted soon we are in massclaim territory, where that just wins the game. Molla should probably check that, I'm a bit sleepy and he knows his setups, but we should have a decent amount of innocents around that could make it an idea.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #876 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:34 am

if we can sort the doc targets yeah , we can start mass claiming in days like this.

no one do anything till our dear cop clear someone else

davesaz · Post Post #877 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:46 am

You just seemed to accept myko as town really fast, like maybe you already knew it. It isn't really a serious suspicion, just struck me as odd.
If he was checked and cleared then fine, if not then we'll use whatever result and go from there.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #878 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:06 am

I didn't done that.

I asked him if he is town and I said I will w8 for the cop to confirm that.

I said we must w8 ...

I said I want an answer from skybird, why are you putting words in my mouth?

davesaz · Post Post #879 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:16 am

Regarding massclaim, I think it's too early. Protects are not clears because there are 2 protects per night and only one of them can actually be the target. From each townie's perspective, 4 known clears -- Sky, 2 clears at most, and themselves. Each townie will be left with choosing 2 scum from 6 people. That's better odds than choosing 2 scum from 10, but not good enough to justify outing the docs. I think we try to lynch scum, and if all PRs are alive tomorrow then we're probably in claim territory.

Pedit: You completely misread what I wrote. I said I wasn't sure about your

initial

response. It was perplexing that you would straight away ask if he was town, as though you bought right into his assumption that he would be checked.

Your posts after that point are fine, and your most recent one actually help me sort you stronger as town though I can't say why due to rules.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #880 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:18 am

In post 879, davesaz wrote:Regarding massclaim, I think it's too early. Protects are not clears because there are 2 protects per night and only one of them can actually be the target. From each townie's perspective, 4 known clears -- Sky, 2 clears at most, and themselves. Each townie will be left with choosing 2 scum from 6 people. That's better odds than choosing 2 scum from 10, but not good enough to justify outing the docs. I think we try to lynch scum, and if all PRs are alive tomorrow then we're probably in claim territory.

^^^ yep agreed

pignash · Post Post #881 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:36 pm

Sorry I missed yesterday guys but it looks like we're pretty close to solving this. Just waiting on skybird, yes?

PhantomCobalt · Post Post #882 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:01 pm

Oh, I didn't realize day started. Will get to catching up whenever I can!

TheManWhoSoldTheWorld · Post Post #883 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:38 pm

Congrats again Pig. As for this game, I'm just posting this as a prodge till Skybird gets in.

Skybird · Post Post #884 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:32 pm

Sorry guys, busy with final stuff before the holidays.

I checked mykonian last night and the dude is scum. With that,

VOTE: mykonian

Before we lynch him though, I want to have a chance to talk with folks about the game. I felt pretty sure FRB/KC was scum and mykonian gave himself away. I don't have any immediate thoughts on their partners though.

Skybird · Post Post #885 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:34 pm

In post 875, mykonian wrote:I'm trying to imply that unless I've miscounted soon we are in massclaim territory, where that just wins the game. Molla should probably check that, I'm a bit sleepy and he knows his setups, but we should have a decent amount of innocents around that could make it an idea.

Knowing that you are scum, this sounds more like you are trying to get the docs to out themselves so you can get around to killing me. No one should mass claim anytime soon.

Skybird · Post Post #886 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:39 pm

In post 862, Koggz wrote:koggz wont be here
koggz die tonight

koggz, why did you expect to die last night?

pignash · Post Post #887 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:41 pm

Easy enough.

VOTE: mykonian

TheManWhoSoldTheWorld · Post Post #888 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:43 pm

Um, Skybird you wanted discussion but you didn't ask us a question. Did you forget or do you just want us to state our ideas for the last scum?

Koggz · Post Post #889 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:47 pm

koggz wrong on klingoncelt slight town but mostly want time to read all
no fast lynch today please i in page 17

Koggz · Post Post #890 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:07 pm

In post 408, Benevolent Dictator wrote:FRB is obvious town and this is clearly a scum led counterwagon.

I'm ashamed of any town on it and they should feel the same as I do.

Vote fucking Skybird.

guess town make mistakes
reading thread all i has was towns flip so now is good klingoncelt flip scum

Koggz · Post Post #891 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:10 pm

In post 410, Benevolent Dictator wrote:Counteroffer: cop is to check myself and then all 3 PRs out as PR, and then we set up some sort of protect order to maximize towns chances of winning.

Then I lead on Skybird or EP once I'm clear.

massclaim no good doctor no can be protect

Koggz · Post Post #892 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:16 pm

In post 422, davesaz wrote:I believe I've seen discussion to the effect that the setup is designed specifically so that massclaim is bad for town.

yes is bad

Skybird · Post Post #893 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:18 pm

Man, I want to see some interactions and see if we can draw some information from the new replacements. For example, right now I feel like investigating Koggz tonight because she is being very weird. But you all might have a different opinion. What do you think of her?

Koggz · Post Post #894 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:19 pm

In post 428, Skybird wrote:
In post 415, Errantparabola wrote:That rave bird wagon went up uncomfortably fast. But I'd rather cop check me than Dictator because dictator seems like they're wrong about things.

Why do you want the cop to check you?

town point on errantparabola

Skybird · Post Post #895 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:20 pm

Koggz,

couple of questions for you. you had 2 days to read. Why haven't you caught up yet? Are you an alt? A simple yes or no will suffice.

Koggz · Post Post #896 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:31 pm

In post 472, BBmolla wrote:I'm softing cop

why this

Koggz · Post Post #897 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:35 pm

In post 473, BBmolla wrote:Saying "I'm probably Cop" is the equivalent of saying "There is a possibility I am a cop"

it's literally

meaningless

this not what you say

In post 466, BBmolla wrote:Except my probable cop report which I'll bring up another day.

Koggz · Post Post #898 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:39 pm

In post 475, Kim wrote:
@Jeanne -- I'll be V/LA this coming Fri/Sat/Sun.

In post 465, BBmolla wrote:I'm a bit annoyed at the no lynch because we've literally found out nothing since yesterday.

Well, we found out that scum didn't have a strong reason to keep Dictator alive -- e.g., they didn't have a strong town read on someone who was actually scum. FRB was the only explicit town read of Dictator's, unless I missed something in Dictator's iso. I voted for FRB, so that's making me reassess them.

they didn't have a strong town read on someone who was actually scum
VOTE: kim

TheManWhoSoldTheWorld · Post Post #899 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:50 pm

WHY HAVE CONFIRMED SCUM IN THE GAME ARE YOU READING?!