Newbie 470: Trouble at Mount Excitement - Mafia Wins!

[Mastermind of Sin]

Do what?

[Dark_Lady_Shaiann]

Claim his role.

[Joubert]

In the last few posts, there are two things I'm not sure I understand. They're from Happiest Sadist's last intervention. He talked about "faint praise". What's a "faint praise"? And where did it occur? The other one is "subtext". Not sure what the word means either...

[Mastermind of Sin]

subtext is underlying meaning that can be read from someone's words. Faint praise is just that there is an approving tone to what was said, essentially. It's a little deeper than that.

[BrianMcQueso]

The Most Excitingest Vote Count On Page 4!

Malrokin (1: Joubert)
Dark_Lady_Shaiann (2: ShadowLurker, Happiest Sadist)
ShadowLurker (1: Dark_Lady_Shaiann)
Mastermind of Sin (1: Charms86)
Charms86 (1: Mastermind of Sin)

Not Voting (Malrokin)

With

7

alive, it's

4

votes to lynch!

[Dark_Lady_Shaiann]

Unvote

[Mastermind of Sin]

Well this is exciting.

[Mastermind of Sin]

*bump*

[Joubert]

Okay, let's get this straight: who is scum?[/dice]

[BrianMcQueso]

Don't make me deadline you guys. That wouldn't be very exciting.

P.S. Does anyone need prods? You decide! (Because I'm lazy)

[Joubert]

You can prod Happiest Sadist... It's been some time...

[Joubert]

Dark Lady, could you explain your last Unvote?
It was sudden and without any explanation or detail. I'd like to see some...

[Mastermind of Sin]

I'd really like to get around to lynching Charms here, people.

[ShadowLurker]

DLS: Why did you unvote yet still want a claim?

Joubert: Were you honestly going to roll a die for a vote?

[Joubert]

No, it's an artefact of the editor. I fiddled with the dice tag (I didn't know it was integrated into the forums mechanics), but it had nothing to do with actually using it. After I clicked submit, the textfield added [/dice] at the end...

Now with HS and MoS's intervention, Charms seems somewhat suspicious, but nothing worth a finger for now, so I'll just say that I'll be watching...

[Mastermind of Sin]

Joubert, you're not going to get more than a finger right now. You take a finger and pull, maybe you'll get a hand. Just sitting there and saying "I'll be watching" is unproductive. You need to get some suspicions out there and act on them.

[Happiest Sadist]

Mastermind of Sin

why do you think that we should be lynching

Charms

today? Although he has been acting suspicious, much of his suspicious behavior has been in supporting

Dark Lady Shaiann.

. So if she is not scum, then it is likely that

Charms

isn't either.

Because of that, if we are lynching one of

Charms & Dark Lady

, we should lynch

Dark Lady

. Consider the unfortunate circumstance where we kill one of them and they were innocent. If we find out

Dark Lady

is innocent, it provides evidence that

Charms

is at well. However, if we find out

Charms

is innocent it provides no similar evidence about

Dark Lady.

[Charms86]

Now with HS and MoS's intervention, Charms seems somewhat suspicious, but nothing worth a finger for now, so I'll just say that I'll be watching...

Isn't this virtually the same thing I said about Dark Lady? That she seemed like she might be suspicious, but I'd assume innocence for the time being? I don't quite see how this shows suspicious behavior.

[Charms86]

Mastermind of Sin

why do you think that we should be lynching

Charms

today? Although he has been acting suspicious, much of his suspicious behavior has been in supporting

Dark Lady Shaiann.

. So if she is not scum, then it is likely that

Charms

isn't either.

Because of that, if we are lynching one of

Charms & Dark Lady

, we should lynch

Dark Lady

. Consider the unfortunate circumstance where we kill one of them and they were innocent. If we find out

Dark Lady

is innocent, it provides evidence that

Charms

is at well. However, if we find out

Charms

is innocent it provides no similar evidence about

Dark Lady.

Just one small note: I actually happen to be of the "she" variety.

[Dark_Lady_Shaiann]

Obviously if I unvoted him it's becuase I was back to being undecided......


I don't understand how just becuase Charms talks about me, we have to automatically be a team. I belive that if we really were, we would both be talking about eachother and then denying our involvment together like crazy, or just not talking about eachother at all, especially when it comes to defense of the other, because I think that is just a little bit to obvious. The only reason why I never denied it immediatly (or said anything about it, even after I asked about it) is becuase I wasn't really worried about it, and I figured that if I denied it you would definetly think I was lying since you guys were already pointing fingers at me anyway (plus I didn't really have good enough reason to back it up at the time. I didn't really see any harm it what she was doing). I have a feeling that she just might be trying to put some attention on me by pointing out obvious facts about my actions. The more my name gets said, the more (most likely bad) attention I get..... Which basically rules out that if I'm innocent Charms must be aswell and vice versa. There is always a chance that her actions may be purely innocent, just like mine, but even so......

vote: Charms

And, yes, I am aware that scum will sometimes lynch their own to try and make themselves look more innocent, and have a higher chance of winning, so take this however the Hell you want. The only reason why I say it is becuase some one would probably bring it up anyway.......

And if you don't know....now you know.



.......And who said what about me wanting a claim?

[Joubert]

I'd like to hear from Malrokin. Too much lurking looks scummy...

[Dark_Lady_Shaiann]

Claim his role.

If your talking about this, check the bottom of page 3 and then the top of page 4, and then get back to me about it.

[Joubert]

The more my name gets said, the more (most likely bad) attention I get...

Dark Lady, one thing important is that although you may get more attention when you speak (that's more or less a given), your

reaction

towards the pointing fingers can reveal many things, and is sometimes more informative than the accusation itself. Being pointed by one or five fingers should not make a lot of difference if you really are innocent...

In that case, even if what you say makes sense, I find your reaction skewed a bit. You're trying to say that the "probability" that you and Charms are of the same alignment could be pretty much equal to you and her being not the same alignment. But right after that, you vote Charms, seemingly to show that you're not with her? What does that mean?

Or is it because you only want to repel the "bad attention" on Charms? After all, you didn't explain your vote at all. Can you justify your move?

[Dark_Lady_Shaiann]

I don't really know how else to explain it then what I already said.

I feel that she is purpusfully (sp?) trying to put attention on me, which is a scummy move to me, but for some reason to a few others, I'm more scum than she is.

Of course the possibilities are equal that we are together or not, as far as you know. If I outright deny it without reason, there is a low chance that you will believe me, but now that I have a reason, what reason do you have to trust me? Basically, I'm trying to open up all options about myself before any one else can. I would rather accuse myself, and put it all out in the open, then wait for some one else to do it. The fact that most of you already don't trust me leads me to assume that all my words are going to be twisted anyway. Why shouldn't I just save you the trouble and twist them for you already and then let you decide?

Charms already has bad attention, and my understanding is that most of that has to do with defending me. But if any one would decide to go back and read, I have never really talked about her, but twice, or to her, but once, (aside from these last few posts). But she kept running her mouth about me even if it is supposidly good. I don't really see the point in it.

Most people think that Charms and I are scum together, and are probably getting annoyed with my wannbe philosophical approuch to everything. So, if you the straight answer:

No, Charms and I are not scum together, but I do think that Charms is scum, and therefore I have voted for her.

[Dark_Lady_Shaiann]

Being pointed by one or five fingers should not make a lot of difference if you really are innocent...

Why else do you think I didn't say anything about the Charms and me scum pair up accusation until now? It didn't bother me until it kept coming back up. Obviously I have a reason to feel the need to defend myself and make it through to the next day, but what the reason may be, is for you to decide.

Of course there is always the chance that whoever is scum is ganging up on me trying to make me say something I shouldn't. They pointed out random scummy things about me, made a big deal about it, and are trying to push me into a corner.


There are only 2 votes on me......and they have been there for most of the day. The first was random (ShadowLurker), and he just decided not to change it due to my "scummyness" the other (HappiestSaddist) voted me becuase I voted ShadowLurker. If thats not scummy, I really dont' know what else is. I made a note of that before. I like the way no one really said anything about it.....


PS....I actually did go back, and it looked like I talked to Charms twice, but only once was about the game.....


And you know what? Now that I really think about it, I'm gonna go back to ShadowLurker.

Unvote

Vote: ShadowLurker

FoS:Happiest Saddist

Charms is the least of my worries.