BM's Mystery Mafia!! GAME OVER???

[Albert B. Rampage]

Might as well make it...Bobby, JDodge and you lol

[Erg0]

Wow, that was a fortuitous simulpost.

Unvote

for the moment.

To clarify, I'm referring to BobbyPlump here.

[somestrangeflea]

I don't have a scumlist.
I never suspected Oman of fishing in the first place, I've explained my wagonvote on JDodge, I've said that I accept GoW's explanation for his post, and nothing else has really happened so far!

[Albert B. Rampage]

So you think everyone is town, am I right ?

[Skruffs]

I am pleased to see Albert R. Rampage in this game.
Thank god for Post 60.

Vote : XDaamno

[bobbyplump]

Thoughts so far. First off, what a weird exchange.

-Didn't find anything wrong with Oman's post about the double-voter. Sounds like he miscounted, and believing that count, made a post. Maybe that post didn't benefit the town, but I also don't see how it'd benefit scum. If there were a double-voter, anyone with a brain could figure out the math.

-Jdodge made a legit vote on Oman. Legit in forcing Oman to react to see how he'd do it.

-Definitely caught the sarcasm in GoW's post. Not sure how it blew everything up.

-Pulsewidth jumps in after catching a random vote, and votes for GoW. Then he disappears. I don't like that at all.

-Somestrangeflea hops in and BWs JDodge and doesn't really make sense in so doing. To me, this is the scummiest thing in the whole exchange.

Vote: Flea

-ABR gets REALLY defensive about JDodge. I can understand arguing in his favor, but ABR did so with fervor. Struck me as odd. Could it be a case of scum defending a townie to gain trust?

-ABR votes GoW, a vote that doesn't sit well with me. The whole Oman/JDodge/GOW debate was blown out of proportion. I don't think any of those three's comments were scummy. I think in the long run, reactions to the debate will tell more than debate itself.

FOS: ABR

-Kison pops in to put GOW halfway to a lynch, then disappears. Hate that.

-HATE that Flea says this:

Apologies. I normally attempt to start games with an early bandwagon, whether it has a base or not, to attempt to get information. At that point, JDodge seemed to be an ideal target, so I voted him. Since the wagon has slowed, I will now

Unvote

.

-This:

Gut feeling for everyone starts off Town and then slowly degrades into Scum.

-AND this

I don't have a scumlist.

In conclusion, I'm voting for Flea, FOSing Albert and

EGMEOY: Pulsewidth and Kison.

Would sure like to hear more from the two of you.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Exactly the point I was trying to illustrate with my short exchange with Flea.

[~N9V~]

I counted 16....dammit, i counted the names NOT in brackets. Okay 18 my bad.

It's quite obvious how many people there are. Look at the frount page before you post about how many people there are. It really makes you look like you are role-fishing.

Unvote, vote: Oman

Quit fishing.

For good reasons too.

Jdodge, I'm not fishing, I'm speculating. Of course, I also can't count, so if I was fishing, I'm pretty crap at it.

No, you were fishing.

unvote: Albert

VOTE: JDodge

Keep fishing.

How was JDodge fishing about someone else fishing.

FoS: Oman and GodOfWine

Vote GodofWine

for promoting role-fishing.

WTF, where do you see GodOfWine promoting role-fishing? If your talking about how he told JDodge to "keep fishing", that's hardly promoting it.

OK...
Oman speculated on the setup...
JDodge voted Oman for fishing...
GodOfWine voted JDodge for... I don't know. The posts seem to make out that JDodge was fishing, but I think it's a possible misinterpretation/miswording...

In conclusion... uh...

Unvote, Vote: JDodge

.
I would like some sort of clarification from GoW though...

Okay, I understand this, up to the part about voting for JDodge. If you declare that GodOfWine voted for JDodge for a reason "possibly role-fishing, mabey a misinterpretation/miswording". If you don't know why GodOfWine voted for JDodge, then why didyou do likewise?

FoS: somestrangeflea

Stop messing with JDodge. Leave him alone.

The bandwagon on him is pretty baseless.

His actions ? He made 3 posts so far.

JDodge has not done anything scummy.

Agreed. JDodge hasn't done anything wrong/scummy.

Unvote,Vote:Albert B. Rampage

why would you jump to defend jdodge?

I agree with Erg0's interpretation of GOW's statement. It seemed like he wanted Oman to keep fishing.Strange, but appears to be random.

Why wouldn't he jump to defend someone who's acted protown so far.

FoS: SirWario

Here are the facts:

1. Oman fished for a power role, in this instance a double voter.

Is this, in fact, correct. If so we must have a double voter.

Sounds like fishing to me.

2. JDodge called him on it.

Sounds like he called him out for fishing.

3. Oman says he was'nt fishing. He blames his fishing on a numerical mistake, which in reality is unrelated to the fact that he was fishing.

Jdodge, I'm not fishing, I'm speculating. Of course, I also can't count, so if I was fishing, I'm pretty crap at it.

No, you were fishing. Stop trying to hide that with your mistake of seeing only 16.

Jordan- I'm kinda on the same wavelength as he is. Doesn't really think JDodge is all that scummy but wants to do something to get conversation going. I get a good vibe off of him.

I don't understand how you can say that Jordan thinks JDodge is scum, while he is attacking him? If he wanted to start a conversation on someone, I think he would attack someone who he feels is scummy. Unless Jordan plays this game differently.

Somestrangeflea- Most scummy to me so far. Voted JDodge directly after Jordan did and he didn't look like he had good logic behind it. I get the feeling he's trying to blend in, which I don't like.

Ditto.

FoS: JordanA24

Thoughts so far. First off, what a weird exchange.

-HATE that Flea says this:

Apologies. I normally attempt to start games with an early bandwagon, whether it has a base or not, to attempt to get information. At that point, JDodge seemed to be an ideal target, so I voted him. Since the wagon has slowed, I will now

Unvote

.

-This:

Gut feeling for everyone starts off Town and then slowly degrades into Scum.

-AND this

I don't have a scumlist.

Was just getting around to it, you beat me though. Pretty much ditto.

So in the end, this is what it looks like.

Pro-Town: Albert B. Rampage, JDodge.

Neutral: YagamiLight, Nelly632, Quinnster, bobbyplump, Erg0, XDaamno, Pulsewidth, Skruffs, Kison, Alsleet

Scummy: Oman, somestrangeflea, GodOfWine, JordanA24, SirWario

[~N9V~]

Vote: somestrangeflea

[GodOfWine]

GodOfWine wrote:
unvote: Albert

VOTE: JDodge

Keep fishing.

How was JDodge fishing about someone else fishing.

To answer that, I was not commanding JDodge to "keep fishing". I was saying generally, as to an audience, "Keep fishing!" It was a joke, we got past that part.


The whole vote was just to imitate JDodge's previous post. I was not intending to start a mass movement. I really dont find him scummy at all so I guess I can't justify keeping a vote on him. I will be watching all those people who were eager to interpret a little playfulness as a chance to gang up on the funny guy. You know who you are. (cough, AlSleet, ~N9V~, pulsewidth, cough) I'm not FoSing though. More of an IGMEOY.[/quote]

[GodOfWine]

I meant to do this at the end of my last post.

unvote

I have made my three suspcions clear. (There may be more that I forgot to include who had similar actions. Consider yourselves included.)

[Oman]

N9V has just written the same arugment twice, or is there something else there that I missed.

Firstly, I miscounted in the VC, that is an honest mistake and N9V is simply Shadow Jumping trying to crucify me on it.

[GodOfWine]

I agree. Miscounting the players, especially when you weren't even trying to prove anything except to the mod cant be anything but an honest mistake. He has warranted an

FoS: ~N9V~

[Erg0]

Vote: ~N9V~

Obvscum.

[YagamiLight]

okay,

unvote

, I had read it as you implying JDodge was fishing, and were being sarcastic about wanting him to continue. I get what you meant know.
~N9V~, I don't think what Oman did should be considered fishing. It seems as though he miscounted, and assumed there was a double voter, just like after a night seeing to dead and assuming there is a vig or SK.

[YagamiLight]

EBWODP
Oh, and

FoS ~N9V~ and lesser on JDodge

, for thinking speculation is fishing.

[Oman]

Oh I forgot to put in my above post

HoS: N9V

Why make the same argument twice too?

[~N9V~]

^^Cuz i was posting my thoughts as I read the thread...

[Oman]

Doesn't explain the need to say the same stuff twice, I think you might have been trying to build a better argument than you had.

[YagamiLight]

I think it does explain his posting the thing twice, he say it once when you posted it, and again when quoted. But I still don't see why you believe it is fishing.

[JordanA24]

Jordan- I'm kinda on the same wavelength as he is. Doesn't really think JDodge is all that scummy but wants to do something to get conversation going. I get a good vibe off of him.

I don't understand how you can say that Jordan thinks JDodge is scum, while he is attacking him? If he wanted to start a conversation on someone, I think he would attack someone who he feels is scummy. Unless Jordan plays this game differently.

Somestrangeflea- Most scummy to me so far. Voted JDodge directly after Jordan did and he didn't look like he had good logic behind it. I get the feeling he's trying to blend in, which I don't like.

Ditto.

FoS: JordanA24

Why are you FOS'ing me here? The quote above it wasn't mine, and if you're FOSing me because of Alsleet's quote, that's ridiculous. The only way I could see that working is if you think me and Al are scumbuddies (at this early stage?), and Al's on your neutral list. So, explain the FOS please.

[Battle Mage]

'Wow-uberactivity!' Vote Count

GodofWine 3 (AlSleet, Pulsewidth, Albert B Rampage)
Albert B. Rampage 3 (Oman, XDaamno, SirWario)
Jdodge 2 (N9V, Jordan)
Oman 1 (Jdodge)
Quinnster 1 (Nelly632)
AlSleet 1 (Kison)
Xdaamno 1 (Skruffs)
Somestrangeflea 1 (BobbyPlump)
N9V 1 (Erg0)

Not Voting (4): Quinnster, Somestrangeflea, GodofWine, YagamiLight.

A majority of 10 votes required to lynch.

*Note-if you notice an error in any of my votecounts, please inform me of it politely. I'm never wrong, but sometimes i'm not as right as i should be.

[Skruffs]

Fishing would be saying "Who's the double voter". Oman was theorizing (falsely) that the number of votes to lynch was affected by an outside force, in this case, a double voter.
The whole premise is wrong, though - a double voter in a game rarely changes the number of votes to lynch, it just drops the number of people who have to be on a wagon for someone to be lynched (usually by one).

Fishing would be "So, does anyone have the ability to double vote?" - which Oman didn't say.
And if there WAS reason to think someone could double vote, what would be the harm in asking about that now, anyways? This is day, the time where votes are cast, and it would become quite apparent as soon as they voted regardless.

[Xdaamno]

The whole premise is wrong, though - a double voter in a game rarely changes the number of votes to lynch, it just drops the number of people who have to be on a wagon for someone to be lynched (usually by one).

Either way, there was no visible change in the information given and so it's pointless to argue one way or another whether votes are changed, and doing so dosen't help the town anyway.

Oman, I think you're following the wrong trail with N9V at the moment. I see no reason why a scum player would do this more often than a town player (Regardless of whether doing this makes his argument more 'right' or not, which it dosen't).

Vote: ~N9V~

Obvscum.

Hm. I can see posts like this being made by scum players because they're obviously half-joking and thus they can't be interrogated, but they're still pushing for the lynch.

So you think everyone is town, am I right ?

While this is rather parodical, it's obviously an exaggeration which we could do without. ssf may not have a scumlist because he has noticed no scumtells so far, but you're interpreting it as he'll

never

have a scumlist. We're only just out of the RV stage.

Having slightly defended N9V, however, he does seem a little too certain with his 'JDodge is not scum' position. While I agree he isn't exactly at the top of my scum list, I've still noticed his very short posts such as

That's BS.

and

Unvote, vote: Oman

Quit fishing.

to be off (Which wouldn't give him that much heat from me normally, but he's been not posting recently which leads me to believe he could be donig the 'let the town rip itself apart' act).

[Xdaamno]

Either way, there was no visible change in the information given and so it's pointless to argue one way or another whether votes are changed, and doing so dosen't help the town anyway.

Oman, I think you're following the wrong trail with N9V at the moment. I see no reason why a scum player would do this more often than a town player (Regardless of whether doing this makes his argument more 'right' or not, which it dosen't).

Btw those two paragraphs are not linked, and the quote above them is from Skruffs.