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Post Post #3500 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:31 am

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I lol'd

Spoiler: <<< Mod-edited-voutecount >>>
Rena - 5 (Nero Cain, Cephrir, ffullisade, Seanald, Desperado)
Nachomamma8 - 1 (Bacde)
Nero Cain - 1 (Nachomamma8)
Bacde - 1 (Kublai Khan)
Amethyst Kitty - 1 (Slandaar)
ffullisade - 1 (Bulbazak)
Cephrir - 1 (ArcAngel9)

Not Voting - 7 (CrashTextDummie, PeregrineV, penguin_alien, ThAdmiral, Rena, Amethyst Kitty, Om the Destroyer)

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Day Three's deadline is Monday, July 1st, @ 12:30 PM PST, which is in (expired on 2013-07-01 12:30:00).

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Post Post #3501 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:32 am

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Sorry, unfortunately I'm not a mind reader, I can only watch you all, analyse you all and vote you all. I SEE WITH MY EYES DAMMIT, NOT MY INNER EYE.

I'm not caught scum. I'm mildly irritated that site meta has descended to epicmafia standards.
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Post Post #3502 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:34 am

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@Rena:
In post 3433, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3407, Kublai Khan wrote:Okay, I want to hear Nero Cain's Haylen/Rena case. Is it more than just "no scumhunting"?
No, not really. I mean this looks like scum lurking to me. + I like what Cephir pulled up.
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Post Post #3503 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:34 am

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In post 3496, Rena wrote:Yeah I did. Because my opinion changed.
Cool. So your gobs and gobs of notes and "several scum reads," which apparently was limited to your "disdain" for B&TB's "scummy actions," are moot now? Because they are town.

So I ask again... are we ever going to get to see these notes?
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Post Post #3504 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:38 am

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I read that Kublai and ignored it because bullshitz.

You can see them if you like when I get my notebook tomorrow. I wrote those up in Southampton and now I'm in Bournemouth. Didn't think I'd need them.
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Post Post #3505 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:39 am

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In post 3491, Rena wrote:Are you deliberately misremembering to iso me as Haylen?
is this you pretending that you are not Haylen?

because thats the opposite of what you said here:
In post 2403, Rena wrote:Hi, HAYLEN here. My account is experiencing major chat issues. Because the lobby was blocking my PM, ISO and preview buttons, now SOMEONE opened a private conversation with me which I can't close and it's blocking my submit button. So until this is sorted, I'm stuck with this account.

With this many players, it we aren't going to miss one townie. Unless that one townie is THE GOLDEN TOWNIE and needs to be around sp we can win the game. Setting up a lynch for the hammer tomorrow is ridiculous when we don't know the facts or the night kills yet.
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Post Post #3506 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:40 am

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By your accounts Rena unless you are THE GOLDEN TOWNIE we can lynch you because we aren't going to miss you

Also, why are you voting for me? Unless you have a good reason then you complaining about people not giving reason (even though they are) is highly hippocritical and likely scum-motivated
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Post Post #3507 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:41 am

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In post 3504, Rena wrote:I read that Kublai and ignored it because bullshitz
but if you read that why are you pretending like no reasons have been given?
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Post Post #3508 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:45 am

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@Rena your attitude towards my playerslot is illogical at best, especially with you saying that only "idiot" scum wouldn't shoot me over Thor when we likely have 2 scumteams--therefore your implication that I am scum because I didn't die at night is invalid due to me STILL being able to be shot even if I was scum

Why didn't you address this point the first time I made it, instead opting to leave your vote where it was and not interact with me?
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Post Post #3509 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:49 am

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In post 3484, Rena wrote:Its not omgus if it's true. I've always had a problem with people wanting to lynch others without giving them a chance to defend themselves.

You've had the abridged version of those notes, the majority of it was my distain over B+B's scummy actions.
In post 3498, Rena wrote:People who are calling me scum FOR NO OBVIOUS REASON then refusing to state why!!!

Is this really the best we can do on day 3?
Literally ISO me, it's been stated and stated and stated. It even involves your scumbuddy's words, you really should remember that. But I suppose you weren't in the game yet when he said that, soooo.

I mean it happens not to be much you can defend yourself against. fuzzy was scum with RR, both you and fuzzy were scum with thezmon (see my analysis post) and you've done nothing to help your case and are now flailing like it's nobody's business.
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Post Post #3510 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:57 am

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Heh. Heh. Heh. You want to lynch me cause player interaction? xD

Bacde. I'm mostly concerned that not one scumteam targetted you. And because you seem to be deliberately misreading me. "Are you pretending not to be Haylen." Read the actual post, scummy jim. And stop reaching.

Cephir. How do you know how many players are in a scumteam? Btw, I'm ignoring you now because you're tunnelling.

@ Nero: Because I can't believe that that is THE ENTIRE CASE.
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Post Post #3511 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:58 am

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By the way, I am THE GOLDEN TOWNIE.
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Post Post #3512 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:00 am

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Also, why are we letting CTD coast through this entire game?
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Post Post #3513 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:00 am

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If you are the golden townie then I'm a millionaire.
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Post Post #3514 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:01 am

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Can I borrow enough cash to pay my tuition fees?
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Post Post #3515 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:02 am

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Mastin: Can you prod CTD? He's been gone 7 days.
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Post Post #3516 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:03 am

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In post 3512, Rena wrote:Also, why are we letting CTD coast through this entire game?
because he towntold that one time
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Post Post #3517 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:15 am

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the ffullisade hydra has come to a very important agreement.

we are in mafia love with desperado.

in other news

@ I gave a case. you could comment on that
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Post Post #3518 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:15 am

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^ that was to rena
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Post Post #3519 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:21 am

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In post 3435, Slandaar wrote:
In post 3431, Bulbazak wrote: Are you afraid?
How did you know?
Kuribo taught me how to smell fear. :)
In post 3437, Bacde wrote:
In post 3429, Bulbazak wrote:You mean you wanted her to ask someone who was not a vig rather than someone who had actually claimed vig? What kind of crap logic is this? Do you not like the attention being on you, Bacde?
Yes I am afraid of attention

which is why I spammed the thread to force everyone to lynch thezmon

and is why I've been leading a controversial charge against nacho since d1

and is why I've been forcing everyone to address me and respond to my interactions w/ them (except for nacho who will only pretend to address me!)

...
But it's different when someone questions and suspects you, isn't it?
In post 3441, Cephrir wrote:
In post 3434, Bulbazak wrote:
In post 3433, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3407, Kublai Khan wrote:Okay, I want to hear Nero Cain's Haylen/Rena case. Is it more than just "no scumhunting"?
No, not really. I mean this looks like scum lurking to me. + I like what Cephir pulled up.
You mean Fuzzy liking a cute fox picture?
This is an absurd simplification and blatantly ignores the relevant parts of the case
I don't think it is. Your original case on the Haylen slot is that Fuzzy voted Ryu. He later unvoted, because Ryu posted a picture of a cute fox, which Fuzzy gushed over. He later stated that he wasn't going to revote. What you failed to take into account was that all of this happened in the pregame when votes didn't count. Therefore, Fuzzy unvoting and refusing to revote in pregame due to a cute fox gif is not a scumtell, it is in fact a Fuzzy tell and is therefore null (Actually, I might have done the same thing in the same situation. Gut is actually telling me that this makes the slot more likely to be town, as town wouldn't care.).
In post 3444, ArcAngel9 wrote:bulba, do you have any real case on me? except your only reason is that you don't like my posts?
Mostly gut right now. It's a good thing I'm not actually pursuing your lynch, isn't it?
In post 3447, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 3428, Bulbazak wrote:Nero, I also asked you to quote your point about Kitty doing the same thing in the same post. Ergo, I was giving you the opportunity to defend your side of the argument and put me in the hotseat by having to defend mine or concede the point. I was ready to give you the benefit of the doubt, because maybe you had a point. Instead, you blatantly attack me for even suspecting you. By actually quoting and asking me the question from there, you would have shown an eagerness to actually scumhunt and get to the point of this entire conversation, which I imagine is to develop a read on me, but you were more interested in attacking me and defending yourself instead, as if you shouldn't be suspected whatsoever. So, yeah, you're deflecting. You're refusing to actually discuss the point, seeking instead to discredit me. And because of all this, you are a strong scumread.
So you think I'd just make up something that never happened?
I never said that.
In post 3447, Nero Cain wrote: lol Just 'cause I'm lazy and don't feel like playing quote mine mafia doesn't mean that I'm refusing to discuss things with you. I think your attack on me is weaksause and I therefore called you on it. I don't know if you are scum attacking me or town. I find it utterly pathetic that you are whining about being called out on a shit case.
To be honest, I don't have the time to sift through the ISOs of a 100+ page game just to find what you may or may not have been talking about. Since you brought it up, the burden of proof lies on you to provide the quote for me to respond to, not to make a comment about it and expect me to do all the work for you. If you think my attack is weak, then you need to actually argue why it's weak and put in the effort to do so, starting with this quote.
In post 3447, Nero Cain wrote: Are you the last blue?
Are you seriously going down this road to discredit me now?

On to page 139.
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Post Post #3520 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:32 am

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In post 3469, Amethyst Kitty wrote:Slad, what's up with the sudden change in reads? You had us as town for the first two days

This feels like town-nero, I'm over-riding Mala's scum read on him

and Nacho is not blue-scum, nothing stopping him from being red-scum though

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Post Post #3521 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:37 am

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In post 3510, Rena wrote:Heh. Heh. Heh. You want to lynch me cause player interaction? xD
Yep. I find associative tells to be the most useful variety.
Haylen wrote:Cephir. How do you know how many players are in a scumteam? Btw, I'm ignoring you now because you're tunnelling.
I don't, but two teams of four seems unbalanced. Why, do you know I'm wrong?

Okay, ignore me because you can't rebut my points. Great, you sure are town.

@Bulda: You're missing the point. Of the three posts I quoted, the second is the least relevant. The first and third posts are the important ones (I quoted all three of them mostly because they comprise every time fuzzy ever mentioned Ryu).
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Post Post #3522 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:41 am

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VOTE: Rena

Using the "I'm ignoring you because you're tunneling" defense when the case on her isn't bad at all

also all the other reasons etc

nacho you are one lucky scum
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Post Post #3523 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:53 am

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I've never caught a scum before! It feels awesome! *squeals like a little girl*
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Post Post #3524 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:04 am

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In post 3515, Rena wrote:
Mastin: Can you prod CTD? He's been gone 7 days.
Prod, no. Not until tomorrow.

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