Open 319: Jungle Republic - Day 5: Calamity *GAME OVER*

Sky · Post Post #50 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:40 pm

*Deity

tyhess · Post Post #51 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:12 pm

my bad on the mafia/werewolf thing

Thor665 · Post Post #52 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:27 pm

Ray Montano wrote:1. I've been off the site for...six months? But I've been here since 2008, gone nowhere else, quite loyal to MafiaScum.

Vote: Ray Montano

Serious vote is very serious. Let's speed lynch him naow.

tyhess · Post Post #53 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:35 pm

unvote, vote:Ray

DeityKabuto · Post Post #54 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:39 pm

tyhess wrote:
unvote, vote:Ray

What'd I miss

Thor665 · Post Post #55 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:41 pm

The obvious wagon of win I have - you should join it.
The evidence is in my post above.

BBmolla · Post Post #56 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:42 pm

Thor665 wrote:
Ray Montano wrote:1. I've been off the site for...six months? But I've been here since 2008, gone nowhere else, quite loyal to MafiaScum.

Vote: Ray Montano

Serious vote is very serious. Let's speed lynch him naow.

...I don't follow. So what? He's an experienced player.

DeityKabuto · Post Post #57 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:49 pm

Thor665 wrote:The obvious wagon of win I have - you should join it.
The evidence is in my post above.

Interesting, let's see where being opportunistic takes me.

Unvote
Vote Ray Montano

Ray Montano · Post Post #58 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:57 pm

BBmolla wrote:...I don't follow. So what? He's an experienced player.

Let's think about it. Experienced player...players who aren't experienced...who would it benefit to vote the experienced player.

tyhess · Post Post #59 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:04 pm

It'd help the town, because inexperienced scum help the town, while an experience scum won't slip.

TheFool · Post Post #60 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:08 pm

Hey everyone, interesting game so far!

Deity wrote:Policy lynches are retarded, they solve nothing, especially in this setup.

What about this setup makes policy lynching worse?

BBmolla wrote:1. What's your prior experience with Mafia at this site? At others Sites? With other players in this game?
2. If a Seer found a werewolf on the first night, would it be better to claim and get a werewolf lynched or not claim and hope they can find the other werewolf before they are killed?

1. One other game with this name, a few others elsewhen.
2. I'd claim on a guilty myself; finding one wolf typically makes the other easier to dig out.

The Ray wagon has virtue beyond Thor's evidence.
VOTE: Ray Montano

DeityKabuto · Post Post #61 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:11 pm

TheFool wrote:What about this setup makes policy lynching worse?

If I were to die as a mislynch.

For the night the town would have 11 players, 1-2 kills happen overnight and the odds of hitting a town are probable.

That would leave a small number of Town left.

Ray Montano · Post Post #62 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:17 pm

tyhess wrote:It'd help the town, because inexperienced scum help the town, while an experience scum won't slip.

I like this guy.

BBmolla · Post Post #63 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:23 pm

Ray Montano wrote:
tyhess wrote:It'd help the town, because inexperienced scum help the town, while an experience scum won't slip.

I like this guy.

So you don't even care about this bandwagon forming on you?

tyhess · Post Post #64 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:30 pm

TheFool wrote:
2. I'd claim on a guilty myself; finding one wolf typically makes the other easier to dig out.

I think it depends on the day 1 action, who the wolf is, and if the seer feels like it helps find more scum then MAYBE out him.

Ray Montano · Post Post #65 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:34 pm

BBmolla wrote:So you don't even care about this bandwagon forming on you?

What exactly am I supposed to care about?

tyhess · Post Post #66 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:38 pm

getting lynched

Ray Montano · Post Post #67 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:40 pm

There's nothing care about until there's an argument to be had for or against.

tyhess · Post Post #68 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:46 pm

I'm arguing for you being lynched because you are scum.

Ray Montano · Post Post #69 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:49 pm

A fallacious statement is not an argument.

tyhess · Post Post #70 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:53 pm

Now we're using big words.

Thoughts on the seer coming out then?

Ray Montano · Post Post #71 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:58 pm

My overall assessment would be no. However, it really all depends on the situation.

If the seer is close to being lynched on an irrational wagon then I wouldn't be opposed to claiming, and would understand that decision. The only other situation I would be okay with it is if the day is dragging on and on and on, if there are bandwagons flying in all different directions, and the player who the seer knows is a werewolf is directing a lot of traffic. I would support that decision to claim as well.

tyhess · Post Post #72 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:12 pm

Obviously if the seer is about to be lynched it makes sense to come out.

However, I have to disagree with your 2nd scenario. Votes flying all over the place isn't dragging on to me. That's what's going to cause us to be able to lynch the two factions we have to beat.

ALSO-THE MAFIA SHOULD CLEAR EACH OTHER!!! THAT WAY WE CAN ATTEMPT TO LYNCH THE WOLVES!!!

Ray Montano · Post Post #73 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:20 pm

Disagree. If day one drags on to almost three weeks and the deadline somehow gets extended due to replacements (like you should know can happen) then I would categorize that as unproductive and dragging on. Especially if the werewolf is a vocal leader who people seem to be clinging to. Outing that werewolf and drawing connections based on who the wolf was directing seems productive enough to support. To me at least. I'm not one to push the seer to do something so if the seer decided to out himself in that scenario I'd 100% back them.

tyhess · Post Post #74 (ISO) » Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:31 pm

Maybe I should clarify. Let's say it's day 2, and the seer has a wolf. How long should he wait to claim if votes are flip flopping?