@Blind: Your case is good. It's wrong, but it's good.
blindfaeth wrote:I guess I had two problems with your first post; the first being the part I bolded. (Mind you, it was difficult narrowing down why that paragraph bothered me. It just seemed like the first sentence, a "why is this policy lynch going on" was all that was necessary. But you felt the need to throw in the "the town usually doesnt benefit from policy lynches" thing.)
The second problem I had was that you didn't answer your own questions immediately thereafter. I appreciate that you complied when I asked you to do so, however.
I was just emphasizing a point, that I didn't want a policy lynch to go through. I asked what the purpose of the policy lynch was, and proceeded on with giving my personal opinion on them. That's all I can really say about that.
The forgetting to answer the questions was just that. I wasn't avoiding them I legitimately forgot about them. After posting that I had meant to respond in my next post, but I got preoccupied and forgot about it.
blindfaeth wrote:Post 2 - Kind of the same as above, the addition of "self votes don't ever help" just doesn't read genuinely. This and the
next post just made me feel as though you were laying back and acting like you were contributing... and bringing more attention onto DK. To be fair, though, I think part of the reason this kind of thing bothers me so much is because I just find the DK suspicion so ridiculous.
DK's play didn't make sense to me. Self voting never helps anyone. It's the truth. And at first I thought he was a newb-town because of this, which will explain some stuff you addressed later.
blindfaeth wrote:I think I've already said this once this game (in reference to Thor suspecting Ray), but I'll say it again and again and again - because I don't understand you people xD
Why would someone ever want to lynch a townie?
A townsperson alive is ALWAYS better than a townsperson dead, IMO. Because how I read this post was, "I think DK is scum but if he turns up VT, I'm ok with that bc he is suspicious"
You're misreading my post. I didn't want him lynched even if he was a townie. I was willing to take the risk of him being a townie. The difference is I saw too possible paths.
1. We lynch him and he turns up scum. We continue happily as our gamble paid off.
2. We lynch him and he turns up town. The gamble failed but it was worth the risk.
At that point in time, I couldn't fathom him being town. Seriously. Self voting and such as an experienced player? That's insane. I mean I realize now that DK is always like this, but at that point it was ridiculous.
blindfaeth wrote:This is probably the post of yours I disagree with the most. I strongly disliked post 177, and I think 175 was actually one of the few posts of tyhess that I liked!
Another thing I've said before and I'll say again, I really enjoy all the extra time we have to discuss and figure things out. I know you and Thor disagree, but I don't think it was the time to hammer. The point of voting someone and bringing them close to lynch is to see how people react. Sometimes you find save so and so bandwagons, and sometimes it makes them speak more or work hard to prove why they aren't lynchworthy and you can decide from there. Claims too. Etc etc
I trust my gut a lot. I like to get reads off of how people react, whether it be to who died or how someone flipped when lynched. You obviously like to have 20 page day ones so you can get perfect reads on everyone. That's fine. I personally am never a fan of D1 cause it's almost always a ML.
Also, I think at that point in time DK had a really crappy defense and I wasn't a fan, which is why I agreed with 177.
blindfaeth wrote:Ok. so then here you think Thor and Ray are both town. Here, you insist that DK is bad. But then you flip and decide DK is cool. Vanish for 2 days. And decide that Ray is bad now, and DK is looking better and better. Whether or not this is a baddie move, I am extremely interested in a more detailed look into your head regarding this because it was not super thoroughly explained. I get that the back and forth you highlighted between Thor and Ray was what changed your mind. But why the changed mind on DK? Honestly I have a bad feeling it was because he wasn't on the chopping block any longer and no one was buying a hot plate of DK quick lynch.
It was quite literally the moment where I noticed he wasn't a newb player. DK newb-town made sense. DK vet-town did not. After his wall of text, I changed my mind. It wasn't just that, it was all the posts after it. He just became townier. Also, it was in combination with the fact that I realized this was his playstyle. That was a big part of it.
blindfaeth wrote:And really, you had null reads on everyone else at that point?
No one had posted anything really substancial, so yes.
I'm going to ISO everyone today and get some reads.
