Open 314: CSL Express [SCUM WINS]

TheLonging · Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:24 pm

it doesn't increase the chances of a town win at all

Hiraki · Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:25 pm

TheLonging wrote:it doesn't increase the chances of a town win at all

It increases the chance of a win in Navi Mafia.

ololololololololololol

lol

TheLonging · Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:28 pm

ugh whatever

I'm trying to figure out who scum are but I think I maybe have a couple of sollid reads

SigmaEXE003 · Post Post #78 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:30 pm

Vifam wrote:It's just easier to remember reads this way, when I think someone is scum, I don't want to remember a blue screen, I want to remember their avi.

... I don't see it. An attempt to look pro-town maybe? Or perhaps an attempt to prolong this phase of not really doing anything. Either way, seems pretty scummy. For now:

Unvote
Vote: Vifam

TheLonging · Post Post #79 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:31 pm

ugh I know it's early in the game but that is some flimsy reasoning

Vifam · Post Post #80 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:34 pm

SigmaEXE003 wrote:
Vifam wrote:It's just easier to remember reads this way, when I think someone is scum, I don't want to remember a blue screen, I want to remember their avi.

... I don't see it. An attempt to look pro-town maybe? Or perhaps an attempt to prolong this phase of not really doing anything. Either way, seems pretty scummy. For now:

Unvote
Vote: Vifam

That's terrible reason to vote someone

I've always found that avis help me remember reads a lot easier, not an effort to look town, just my personal experience.

SigmaEXE003 · Post Post #81 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:35 pm

TheLonging wrote:ugh I know it's early in the game but that is some flimsy reasoning

I thought it was obvious that it was more to provoke discussion by the fact that I said "for now."

Hiraki · Post Post #82 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:40 pm

Unvote, Vote: Vifam

TheLonging · Post Post #83 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:46 pm

Usually all votes are just "for now".

SigmaEXE003 · Post Post #84 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:53 pm

We need something to provoke discussion. A vote with a reason, no matter how flimsy it is, will generate discussion. The point is, when a vote is to apply pressure and/or start discussion, it'll probably be removed after it receives commentary, and that's when I call it a temporary vote. A non-temporary vote is when you're actually looking to lynch someone. Sure, all votes are subject to change, but usually people stick with a vote as long as possible if they actually have a scumread on that person.

TheLonging · Post Post #85 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:56 pm

unvote
vote: sigmaEXE003

how about that

SigmaEXE003 · Post Post #86 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:57 pm

Got a reason?

don_johnson · Post Post #87 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:58 pm

Vifam wrote:

What would you like to discuss?

Neil getting an avatar would actually increase the chances of a town win in this game.

how about this ridiculous math?

vote: vifam

go go vifam bandwagon.

neil1113 · Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:04 pm

I apologize for the time wasted on talking about my Avatar, I didn't really think it was that important to everyone. I'll go on Google right now and see if I can find one.

Tragedy · Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:09 pm

Votecount 0.5

TheLonging [0] -
yourfriendlynoggin [0] -
drmyshottyizsik [0] -
Oversoul [1] - andrew94
Hiraki [0] -
don_johnson [1] - yourfriendlynoggin
andrew94 [1] - drmyshottyizsik
neil1113 [0] -
SigmaEXE003 [2] - Oversoul, TheLonging

Vifam [4] - jakesh97, SigmaEXE003, Hiraki, don_johnson

(L-2)
jakesh97 [1] - Vifam

Not Voting

: Neil1113

Required 6 to Lynch, 5 to No Lynch.
Deadline is at July 3rd, 3 PM.

Vifam · Post Post #90 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:17 pm

how about this ridiculous math?

vote: vifam

go go vifam bandwagon.

Why would you put me at L-2 so early? We're only four pages in.

VOTE: don_johnson

Vifam · Post Post #91 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:17 pm

Woops

UNVOTE:

VOTE: don_johnson

neil1113 · Post Post #92 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:21 pm

As for scum hunting, I really don't like how fast Vifam's wagon formed. I'm making note now that one of jakesh97, SigmaEXE003, Hiraki, or don_johnson is scum.

Vifam, out of everyone on your wagon, why did you vote DJ? Even though he technically placed the vote to put you at L-2, all of them are obviously comfortable with your lynch for them to be wagoning you...

Vifam · Post Post #93 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:24 pm

neil1113 wrote:As for scum hunting, I really don't like how fast Vifam's wagon formed. I'm making note now that one of jakesh97, SigmaEXE003, Hiraki, or don_johnson is scum.

Vifam, out of everyone on your wagon, why did you vote DJ? Even though he technically placed the vote to put you at L-2, all of them are obviously comfortable with your lynch for them to be wagoning you...

Because Don-john was the one who wanted discussion to happen, a lot faster, and that totally contradicts that with him putting me at L-2. He could be trying to apply pressure but I feel like a player who really seemed like he wanted to discuss things wouldn't act so rashly, unless he was scum.

don_johnson · Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:34 pm

i didn't see jakesh's vote, but whatever. i don't have an issue with you being at L-2.

neil wrote:all of them are obviously comfortable with your lynch for them to be wagoning you...

please don't assume things. you are making a blanket statement here that has no base in fact. i'm comfortable with him at L-2, not sure if i would have hammered him on page 4.

SigmaEXE003 · Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:35 pm

neil1113 wrote:As for scum hunting, I really don't like how fast Vifam's wagon formed. I'm making note now that one of jakesh97, SigmaEXE003, Hiraki, or don_johnson is scum.

Vifam, out of everyone on your wagon, why did you vote DJ? Even though he technically placed the vote to put you at L-2, all of them are obviously comfortable with your lynch for them to be wagoning you...

I don't see it. None of us said or implied that we were fine with a lynch.

Vifam wrote:Because Don-john was the one who wanted discussion to happen, a lot faster, and that totally contradicts that with him putting me at L-2. He could be trying to apply pressure but I feel like a player who really seemed like he wanted to discuss things wouldn't act so rashly, unless he was scum.

L-2 is not a dangerous position to put someone at, especially not on page 4. Any competent player would not hammer on page 4 and not without a damn good reason. It would be their own death sentence.

Vifam · Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:41 pm

SigmaEXE003 wrote:
neil1113 wrote:As for scum hunting, I really don't like how fast Vifam's wagon formed. I'm making note now that one of jakesh97, SigmaEXE003, Hiraki, or don_johnson is scum.

Vifam, out of everyone on your wagon, why did you vote DJ? Even though he technically placed the vote to put you at L-2, all of them are obviously comfortable with your lynch for them to be wagoning you...

I don't see it. None of us said or implied that we were fine with a lynch.

Vifam wrote:Because Don-john was the one who wanted discussion to happen, a lot faster, and that totally contradicts that with him putting me at L-2. He could be trying to apply pressure but I feel like a player who really seemed like he wanted to discuss things wouldn't act so rashly, unless he was scum.

L-2 is not a dangerous position to put someone at, especially not on page 4. Any competent player would not hammer on page 4 and not without a damn good reason. It would be their own death sentence.

There is no real reason to put someone at L-2 in the first place unless it's to pressure them into claiming or searching for reactions. And Don didn't seem to have any interest in that before the BW on me started.

Hiraki · Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:41 pm

L-2 is a nono.

Unvote, Vote: Yourfriendlynoggin

don_johnson · Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:45 pm

no its not. but whatever.

vifam: how do you know what i am interested in?

Oversoul · Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:46 pm

Vifam wrote:
don_johnson wrote:nice. lets see if we can waste an entire page discussing avatars.

What would you like to discuss?

Neil getting an avatar would actually increase the chances of a town win in this game.

Wasting time discussing anything not pertinent to the game at hand is advantagous to the scum. It decreases the amount of scumhunting significantly.

FoS: Vifam

The avatar crap between Neil and Jakesh seems like scumbuddy talk trying to pass time without actually going anywhere.