Large Normal 132: Desert Mafia (Over!)

[mastin2]

Also, consider me distracted and therefore at incoherence risk.

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Vote Count

• Kublai Kahn: 1 (mastin2) L-7
  
  
  Not Voting: 13 (inHimshallibe, [winger], DeityKabuto, Kublai Khan, Silver1337, Skyquiem, RisingPhoenix, gorilla, Reya Cookiebringer, Hiraki, Scott Brosius, Mana_Ku, Ranmaru)

With 14 players, it takes

8

to lynch.

Deadline countdown timer:

(expired on 2011-06-17 18:39:00)

[Scott Brosius]

First of, basic protocal states that I should alert you that this account is being used as a hydra, heads will be revealed later. Unfortunatly I haven't had a chance to have a real discussion with Head one about the game yet hopefully I can catch him online very soon.

With the number of night-kills being so low it's safe to assume that there's just one scum-team and likely no serial killer, as for what delayed vig is I would tend to agree with Mastin, the kill will likely occur in twilight today.

Gorilla is indeed town, so is Deity however claiming then wasn't a good idea. Jailkeeper is a strong role late game, early game it's slightly useless, especially out in the open. I'm attempting to process Mastins posts as I'm yet to attain a read on him.

- Head 2

There is no pro-town reason to not reveal the heads of the hydra.

Vote: Skyquiem

[Hiraki]

Vote: Scott Brosius

Good work Skyquiem.

[mastin2]

Amd somehow I instantly like Scott.

[Skyquiem]

Scott, explain the anti-town motivation or reason to delay outting hydra heads instantly upon entering a game.

[mastin2]

I know it instinctively.

Hint: it's something I'm quite fond of.

[Mana_Ku]

@Mastin
Uhm, ok :S? Now I'm confused as I have been absent for a long time, so I don't see how you could have heard of my name :S

Skyquiem is a good place to start.

Vote: Skyquiem

[Scott Brosius]

Headclaiming is definitely protown. You are not claiming heads. Therefore not protown.

Hiding information can only benefit scum.

[Hiraki]

Releasing information can not benefit scum.

Hmm.

[Skyquiem]

If I was attempting to hide information I wouldn't have stated this was a hydra nor would I have stated that I will release the head names later. So again I ask you, in what way is delaying the outting of my heads anti-town.

Not being protown isn't validation for a vote whatsoever, if that were the case Deitys JK claim would lead towards a reasonable vote because him instantly outting his claim is certaintly not protown. You're attempting to ignore all other occurances in the thread and push validation for your vote when the truth of the matter is there is none.

[Scott Brosius]

FAULTY LOGIC ALERT @ hiraki

I didn't say that. Releasing information benefits all. However, there are more town than scum, therefore will help inform more town. Hiding information can only benefit scum due to a less informed town

We are going to make better decisions knowing what accounts we are playing with. It's not a validation for a vote in your perspective but in a game with 30something posts and probably half by mastin, it's the most suspicious thing I have seen. I agree that instantly claiming JK is not protown either, but lynching a claimed JK today is not good strategy. I highly doubt that scum would come out and claim that immediately.

[Scott Brosius]

Also, I don't really care what you possibly WOULD have done if you wanted to hide information. The fact is you are.

[Skyquiem]

The logic you're attempting to present is withholding of information isn't pro-town therefore it's anti-town when that's not the case at all.

On top of that you recognize the fact that our heads will be outted at some point however continue to be contempt with your vote. If you really believed information was pro-town and essential you would be asking what our reasoning for not instantly declaring them is, in which case I would respond saying that I haven't spoken with Head One yet therefore don't know if he wants to be publically known.

- Head 2 (Previous posts have all been mine)

[Scott Brosius]

You talk in a lot of "would" scenarios which is fruitless. Anyway this argument is turning to be not productive. My vote stays until the heads are revealed.

[Hiraki]

If you know the accounts, you can just use meta on the heads.

You really aren't concealing

that

much information.

[Skyquiem]

Let me make this clearer since you seem to be having trouble to grasp what I'm saying. If you believed that witholding information is suspicious and there wasn't much else to comment on why didn't you outright ask our reasoning for doing so?

- Head 2

[Skyquiem]

@Deity

Claiming this early on was a bad move- but I suspect you know that already, so we'll move on.

I almost didn't know

why

you

did

claim until I re-read a couple posts back and saw that you had asked Mastin if he did anything last night.

Is it safe to assume that you targeted him last night? And if so, why?

^NVM. I just saw post 14.

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@Mastin

I played three games, replaced in two, simply because that was a bad time for me, and was unable to play to my fullest despite only playing one or two games at a time... sucks, but there you go. I won't replace out of this one, though.

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@Scott-1

I've seen this before, a couple of times; where someone asks the hydra to 'headclaim' on grounds that hiding said information is Anti-Town.

I don't think I need to state that each of those times, said person wanting said information was scum.

So Scott, are you Scum?

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@Hikari

What did we do?

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I know it instinctively.

Hint: it's something I'm quite fond of.

Know what instinctively exactly?

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@Mana_Ku


And you feel the need to BW without a reason... why exactly?

It looks to me like your sheeping to Scott on this, but I may be missing something sublime here. I just don't know yet.

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@Scott-2

Again with this head-claiming crap?

The only thing you'll get from a heads-reveal is Meta- and that's not good enough a reason for doing so, because Meta is shit mostly. You should be worried more about what we do in this game, then what we did in other games.

But that's just me. -shrug-

Like my other head stated, we weren't going to hide the fact that we were a hydra- mostly because it would have become

really

obvious after awhile anyways. So yeah. And it's not like we

aren't

going to tell who we are- its just going to be after-game or late late

late

in the game, when we do

[mastin2]

I'll respond to what I need to later. Still incoherent right now.

But I'm telling you here and now {Hiraki, Sky, Scott} contains 1-2 scum in it. There's no way this is town-on-town-with-town. If that makes sense.

[Mana_Ku]

@Mana_Ku


And you feel the need to BW without a reason... why exactly?

It looks to me like your sheeping to Scott on this, but I may be missing something sublime here. I just don't know yet.

Just because I'm not stating something, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. I have my reason, based on something different than Scott is voting you for.

[mastin2]

Indeed, Sky is a suspect of mine as well.

[mastin2]

For the record, I'm quite confident Mana's town, and pretty sure Scott is, too.

[mastin2]

Reya, you here?

[mastin2]

Pretty sure Reya's here and reading. It'll be nice to see another opinion on this matter.

[mastin2]

Or not.

Users browsing this forum: mastin2, Reya Cookiebringer
^What it was. I checked multiple times. Also saw Reya posting somewhere on the forum as the last post in one of 'em.

Users browsing this forum: mastin2
^What it is, now.

[mastin2]

Last post by Reya Cookiebringer
^Yup, Reya should be here.